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Posted: 12/1/2014 8:27:57 PM EDT
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http://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/bad556-lw-lightweight-7075-t6-billet-lower-receiver-set No weight and not available. Looks like they are trying to do something very similiar. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone know??? Are we still the lightest billet 7075 set on the market?? I see a few companies taking a crack at it now.  http://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/bad556-lw-lightweight-7075-t6-billet-lower-receiver-set No weight and not available. Looks like they are trying to do something very similiar. So ugly though.  
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Posted: 12/8/2014 6:43:53 PM EDT
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http://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/bad556-lw-lightweight-7075-t6-billet-lower-receiver-set No weight and not available. Looks like they are trying to do something very similiar. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone know??? Are we still the lightest billet 7075 set on the market?? I see a few companies taking a crack at it now. http://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/bad556-lw-lightweight-7075-t6-billet-lower-receiver-set No weight and not available. Looks like they are trying to do something very similiar. I was eye balling these a couple days ago and was also curious about weight. I emailed and received this response from B.A.D.: "The weight is approximately as follows: Upper receiver- .39 lb Lower receiver- .42 lb" By my calcs that is 6.24oz and 6.72oz respectively. The O.P. mentioned that they wondered if they still had the lightest lowers and uppers - looks like they have B.A.D. beat on these by a little bit but it's pretty minor. Comes down to looks, in my opinion. Either way, it's nice to see the weight-conscious effort moving along. |
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Posted: 12/8/2014 10:06:24 PM EDT
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I was eye balling these a couple days ago and was also curious about weight. I emailed and received this response from B.A.D.: "The weight is approximately as follows: Upper receiver- .39 lb Lower receiver- .42 lb" By my calcs that is 6.24oz and 6.72oz respectively. The O.P. mentioned that they wondered if they still had the lightest lowers and uppers - looks like they have B.A.D. beat on these by a little bit but it's pretty minor. Comes down to looks, in my opinion. Either way, it's nice to see the weight-conscious effort moving along. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone know??? Are we still the lightest billet 7075 set on the market?? I see a few companies taking a crack at it now. http://www.battlearmsdevelopment.com/bad556-lw-lightweight-7075-t6-billet-lower-receiver-set No weight and not available. Looks like they are trying to do something very similiar. I was eye balling these a couple days ago and was also curious about weight. I emailed and received this response from B.A.D.: "The weight is approximately as follows: Upper receiver- .39 lb Lower receiver- .42 lb" By my calcs that is 6.24oz and 6.72oz respectively. The O.P. mentioned that they wondered if they still had the lightest lowers and uppers - looks like they have B.A.D. beat on these by a little bit but it's pretty minor. Comes down to looks, in my opinion. Either way, it's nice to see the weight-conscious effort moving along. Oh wow! It will be interesting to see a final weight from B.A.D. they will have to dig deep to get to our weight. 
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Posted: 12/12/2014 12:58:51 AM EDT
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So evidently RECOIL had a small little blurb about our set in this months issue! Sure it's not a full page advert, or anything, but we are real excited to see something like that in print.
Not bad for 6 people running a CNC shop! I posted this on our Instagram, and figured I would share it here as well Thanks everyone for the awesome feedback and support so far! When we set out to design a light weight receiver set, we decided we wanted something nice. Something with a little more style, some curves, some blends and retained functionality. We didn't want to simply start cutting holes in the part, or build your average squared off brick styled billet set. We knew it would take some serious machine time to get it done. We think it worked out well!! The result was a full 1/4 of a pound removed from the system. #manufacturing #makino #cnc #iso #AS9100 #balios #2aarmament #2a #ar15 #lite #vertexops #hawktecharms #daily_badass #makingguns #madeinidaho #billet 
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Posted: 12/12/2014 10:20:15 AM EDT
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So evidently RECOIL had a small little blurb about our set in this months issue! Sure it's not a full page advert, or anything, but we are real excited to see something like that in print. Not bad for 6 people running a CNC shop! I posted this on our Instagram, and figured I would share it here as well Thanks everyone for the awesome feedback and support so far! https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10801879_846624892025008_8310967689728423325_n.jpg?oh=2af3b839056b4d75a6a57efaf6f6d8db&oe=54F9ED07&__gda__=1426033294_8e89bbf800f5629ccc4acbfb647e3a32 Quote HistoryQuoted:
So evidently RECOIL had a small little blurb about our set in this months issue! Sure it's not a full page advert, or anything, but we are real excited to see something like that in print. Not bad for 6 people running a CNC shop! I posted this on our Instagram, and figured I would share it here as well Thanks everyone for the awesome feedback and support so far! When we set out to design a light weight receiver set, we decided we wanted something nice. Something with a little more style, some curves, some blends and retained functionality. We didn't want to simply start cutting holes in the part, or build your average squared off brick styled billet set. We knew it would take some serious machine time to get it done. We think it worked out well!! The result was a full 1/4 of a pound removed from the system. #manufacturing #makino #cnc #iso #AS9100 #balios #2aarmament #2a #ar15 #lite #vertexops #hawktecharms #daily_badass #makingguns #madeinidaho #billet https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10801879_846624892025008_8310967689728423325_n.jpg?oh=2af3b839056b4d75a6a57efaf6f6d8db&oe=54F9ED07&__gda__=1426033294_8e89bbf800f5629ccc4acbfb647e3a32 You're welcome for the heads up.
I can't wait to get one of these sets. I keep playing with it at the shop. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 11:00:51 AM EDT
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I see a tease of your hand guard that you have been hinting at for a while.
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Posted: 12/12/2014 12:10:13 PM EDT
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I see a tease of your hand guard that you have been hinting at for a while. Correct... We are real close to getting that out. Honestly right now packaging is the major hold up. |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 12:33:45 PM EDT
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Correct... We are real close to getting that out. Honestly right now packaging is the major hold up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see a tease of your hand guard that you have been hinting at for a while. Correct... We are real close to getting that out. Honestly right now packaging is the major hold up. I would love to buy myself one for Christmas ;) |
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Posted: 12/12/2014 4:32:06 PM EDT
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Correct... We are real close to getting that out. Honestly right now packaging is the major hold up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see a tease of your hand guard that you have been hinting at for a while. Correct... We are real close to getting that out. Honestly right now packaging is the major hold up. How about a peek? 
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Posted: 12/12/2014 4:42:44 PM EDT
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The billet lowers are more expensive. It does not seem worth it to me.
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Posted: 12/12/2014 4:50:13 PM EDT
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The billet lowers are more expensive. It does not seem worth it to me. If you picked one up you'd understand. They are incredibly light, almost feel like the weight of one regular lower receiver. The machine work is gorgeous and the lower itself is just a head turner... |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 9:55:51 PM EDT
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Nice!!!
What stock is that?? |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 10:10:17 PM EDT
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Nice!!! What stock is that?? Thank you sir! The stock is a BCM. |
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Posted: 12/13/2014 11:00:32 PM EDT
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I see a tease of your hand guard that you have been hinting at for a while. Correct... We are real close to getting that out. Honestly right now packaging is the major hold up. How about a peek? 
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Posted: 12/13/2014 11:11:42 PM EDT
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That is an M-lok system I assume?
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Posted: 12/14/2014 12:51:35 AM EDT
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We will do both... The keymod has more weight in it though.
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Posted: 12/14/2014 1:32:16 AM EDT
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I imagine given the way that you guys mill the recesses in your products, the M-lok probably looks better in this application.
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Posted: 12/14/2014 12:01:51 PM EDT
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I like the M-Lok.
Oddly enough, when I went to Sportsmans Warehouse here in Boise, ID They already had M-Lok stuff on the shelf. I didn't see a single Key-mod product, and the guy behind the counter had no idea what I was talking about when I asked about Key-Mod.
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Posted: 12/14/2014 6:00:22 PM EDT
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That handguard looks great! Any dimensions? Weight, length, inner and outer diameters? I'm in for at least a couple.
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Posted: 12/14/2014 6:04:31 PM EDT
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So how strong is that rail... It looks like it would break if I dropped it. If its still considerably strong, I'm interested to see total weight.
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Posted: 12/14/2014 6:34:00 PM EDT
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I see a tease of your hand guard that you have been hinting at for a while. Correct... We are real close to getting that out. Honestly right now packaging is the major hold up. How about a peek? https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZDYIJKXpQH8/VImfTCAAD1I/AAAAAAAABjs/bQ-oXBMa4BM/w860-h562-no/BALIOS-lite.jpg 
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Posted: 12/14/2014 7:43:25 PM EDT
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So how strong is that rail... It looks like it would break if I dropped it. If its still considerably strong, I'm interested to see total weight. Just as strong if not stronger than any other extruded guard out there. It's deceiving as the cuts make it look fragile. When you see it up close, you realize it's not. It's not going to be KMR light, but it's also going to be made out of a stronger material. the 15" guard including barrel nut, and hardware should be Sub -9oz. But we are still playing a little. 
We will be offering a separate aluminum barrel nut for those looking for more weight savings, but the rail will ship with a titanium barrel nut. |
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Posted: 12/22/2014 11:39:19 AM EDT
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Lowers normally dont make my eyes light up but that is very nice
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Posted: 12/22/2014 7:10:45 PM EDT
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Lowers normally dont make my eyes light up but that is very nice Thank you very much! You can have good confidence that it's a quality part as well.
2A-Armament is proud to announce that it is fully certified to ISO9001:2008, and AS9100RevC Standards. Today 12-22-2014, 2A-Armament was assessed by NSF-ISR and found to be in conformance to the above standards.
Scope of Registration: 2A-Machine / 2A-Armament performs advanced multi-axis CNC machining of tight tolerance, high production products and assembly items. 2A provides manufacturing, design services, and inspections. 
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Posted: 12/22/2014 7:59:38 PM EDT
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Congrats guys!
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Posted: 12/23/2014 12:17:16 PM EDT
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Congrats guys! Not to ding 2A or anyone else, but you DO understand that ISO9000 certification has nothing to do with the actual quality of the end product, only about the process, right? If the company specs 1" tolerance on barrel diameter, ISO9000 is fine with that as long as they have (and follow) a process for out of tolerance barrels. Likewise one could spec that "No more than 10 in every 20 lowers shall have field failures" and ISO9000 is happy as long as you show how you will address those field failures and close the loop with your production to get the failure rate in spec. I suspect most of us would find a 1" variation in barrel diameter or a 50% field failure rate to constitute "low quality" but as long as those are what the manufacturer defined in their spec, then ISO9000 doesn't have a problem with it! ISO9000 says you have a good PROCESS for making your product, not that you have good SPECS for the product in that process. Again, not dinging 2A or anyone else who has gone through the ISO9000 PITA, but having BTDT I'm not much impressed with the thing myself. Richard |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 3:32:45 PM EDT
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Not to ding 2A or anyone else, but you DO understand that ISO9000 certification has nothing to do with the actual quality of the end product, only about the process, right? If the company specs 1" tolerance on barrel diameter, ISO9000 is fine with that as long as they have (and follow) a process for out of tolerance barrels. Likewise one could spec that "No more than 10 in every 20 lowers shall have field failures" and ISO9000 is happy as long as you show how you will address those field failures and close the loop with your production to get the failure rate in spec. I suspect most of us would find a 1" variation in barrel diameter or a 50% field failure rate to constitute "low quality" but as long as those are what the manufacturer defined in their spec, then ISO9000 doesn't have a problem with it! ISO9000 says you have a good PROCESS for making your product, not that you have good SPECS for the product in that process. Again, not dinging 2A or anyone else who has gone through the ISO9000 PITA, but having BTDT I'm not much impressed with the thing myself. Richard Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Congrats guys! Not to ding 2A or anyone else, but you DO understand that ISO9000 certification has nothing to do with the actual quality of the end product, only about the process, right? If the company specs 1" tolerance on barrel diameter, ISO9000 is fine with that as long as they have (and follow) a process for out of tolerance barrels. Likewise one could spec that "No more than 10 in every 20 lowers shall have field failures" and ISO9000 is happy as long as you show how you will address those field failures and close the loop with your production to get the failure rate in spec. I suspect most of us would find a 1" variation in barrel diameter or a 50% field failure rate to constitute "low quality" but as long as those are what the manufacturer defined in their spec, then ISO9000 doesn't have a problem with it! ISO9000 says you have a good PROCESS for making your product, not that you have good SPECS for the product in that process. Again, not dinging 2A or anyone else who has gone through the ISO9000 PITA, but having BTDT I'm not much impressed with the thing myself. Richard It goes beyond that here. If we have a returned product, it triggers a CAR/PAR, Corrective action report to find out what caused the problem. It's then investigated and fixed. If it's not found, fixed, or corrected, we have an Open CAR/PAR, and are dinged on our next audit. with a minor finding. It's a big deal to get a returned product here. It actually causes a lot of paperwork, and time spent finding a solution or answer to the problem. This should as it's designed create a better product in the end, and keep it consistent. What I am getting at, is you wont see us have weekly sales on "Blem" sets any time soon.
That might be worth something to a person purchasing a part from us... and might not from others. We are just dang excited to be through the ISO process, it's been a big deal for us.
One of our yearly quality objectives is defined as: "Less than 1% customer returned Product" If that helps. |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 3:35:32 PM EDT
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Hard work and dedication by a group of awesome people deserves congratulations.
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Posted: 12/23/2014 7:12:53 PM EDT
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It goes beyond that here. If we have a returned product, it triggers a CAR/PAR, Corrective action report to find out what caused the problem. It's then investigated and fixed. If it's not found, fixed, or corrected, we have an Open CAR/PAR, and are dinged on our next audit. with a minor finding. It's a big deal to get a returned product here. It actually causes a lot of paperwork, and time spent finding a solution or answer to the problem. Again, I'm not criticizing your quality, nor saying this is your process but by ISO9000 a perfectly acceptable resolution which would close the loop is "Receiver measured within tolerances at all dimensions" or to use my somewhat facetious example "1-inch barrel measured 1.75 inches which is within specified tolerances, closing this CLCA". People put way too much stock in ISO9000 when they should put stock in actual quality and customer service processes - which ISO9000 doesn't truly address. Because people put too much stock in ISO9000 folks like you and I have to go implement it - which is a total paperwork PITA (and believe me it used to be worse). Does anyone even remember the Malcolm Baldridge award now? I would prefer not to promulgate the idea that company X with ISO9000 certification is by virtue of that "higher quality" than company Y without it. I'd rather judge and be judged on actual quality to customers, thus my response. My apologies for taking us off-topic! Richard |
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Posted: 12/23/2014 7:59:36 PM EDT
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Again, I'm not criticizing your quality, nor saying this is your process but by ISO9000 a perfectly acceptable resolution which would close the loop is "Receiver measured within tolerances at all dimensions" or to use my somewhat facetious example "1-inch barrel measured 1.75 inches which is within specified tolerances, closing this CLCA". People put way too much stock in ISO9000 when they should put stock in actual quality and customer service processes - which ISO9000 doesn't truly address. Because people put too much stock in ISO9000 folks like you and I have to go implement it - which is a total paperwork PITA (and believe me it used to be worse). Does anyone even remember the Malcolm Baldridge award now? I would prefer not to promulgate the idea that company X with ISO9000 certification is by virtue of that "higher quality" than company Y without it. I'd rather judge and be judged on actual quality to customers, thus my response. My apologies for taking us off-topic! Richard Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It goes beyond that here. If we have a returned product, it triggers a CAR/PAR, Corrective action report to find out what caused the problem. It's then investigated and fixed. If it's not found, fixed, or corrected, we have an Open CAR/PAR, and are dinged on our next audit. with a minor finding. It's a big deal to get a returned product here. It actually causes a lot of paperwork, and time spent finding a solution or answer to the problem. Again, I'm not criticizing your quality, nor saying this is your process but by ISO9000 a perfectly acceptable resolution which would close the loop is "Receiver measured within tolerances at all dimensions" or to use my somewhat facetious example "1-inch barrel measured 1.75 inches which is within specified tolerances, closing this CLCA". People put way too much stock in ISO9000 when they should put stock in actual quality and customer service processes - which ISO9000 doesn't truly address. Because people put too much stock in ISO9000 folks like you and I have to go implement it - which is a total paperwork PITA (and believe me it used to be worse). Does anyone even remember the Malcolm Baldridge award now? I would prefer not to promulgate the idea that company X with ISO9000 certification is by virtue of that "higher quality" than company Y without it. I'd rather judge and be judged on actual quality to customers, thus my response. My apologies for taking us off-topic! Richard It's a fine topic, I think people need to understand that it does in fact benefit the product, as well as customer satisfaction. In fact CS is part of our tracked audit process written into our policy. We have to account for interaction, show proof, and present tracking material for customer service alone. I don't know where you had an ISO9001 or AS Cert, but simply saying "Receiver measured within tolerances at all dimensions" would NOT close a CAR/PAR under our policy as written. If the product comes back, We would have to take into account why, Implement a change order to fix the product to prevent a problem down the road, Update our policy to reflect the change, and or implement the new policy on that product, and then show proof of a customer resolution. Along with that would come print changes, process changes and on down the line. ISO is exactly as you say, "Saying what you do, and doing what you say." It all depends on what you are saying you are going to do.
I don't think "Part was in spec" would close out a CAR/PAR for a crash investigation with BOEING or the likes. And yes, it's a massive PITA.
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Posted: 12/31/2014 5:29:22 PM EDT
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I want to thank everyone on ARFCOM for the warm welcome to the industry. We literally started with this new product post, and it is now 20 pages deep.
We are excited to have many many more new products posts coming in 2015! See you all next year!!! 
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Posted: 12/31/2014 7:30:28 PM EDT
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I like the takedown pin. When can we expect to purchase a set?
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Posted: 12/31/2014 9:13:02 PM EDT
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I like the takedown pin. When can we expect to purchase a set? Right after SHOT SHOW.
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Posted: 1/3/2015 12:46:56 PM EDT
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Are these low shelf / able to accept a DIAS?
The BAD556-LW does not appear to be so? |
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Posted: 1/3/2015 1:42:42 PM EDT
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They are of low shelf design, however I have never tried one with an RDIAS.
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Posted: 1/3/2015 1:48:57 PM EDT
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They are of low shelf design, however I have never tried one with an RDIAS. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/A-5ZXB6r27GjzP6lWVJFbr7bh-cAxQEP0lI0X2xm-CI=w800-h655-no Better send me a couple for testing. ETA: but seriously I would have bought a couple all ready and been able to post some pictures with RDIAS installed but I winter my cattle (and myself) in Utah. I don't think I can buy a firearm here without a Utah DL. |
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Posted: 1/3/2015 4:31:19 PM EDT
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Better send me a couple for testing. ETA: but seriously I would have bought a couple all ready and been able to post some pictures with RDIAS installed but I winter my cattle (and myself) in Utah. I don't think I can buy a firearm here without a Utah DL. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They are of low shelf design, however I have never tried one with an RDIAS. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/A-5ZXB6r27GjzP6lWVJFbr7bh-cAxQEP0lI0X2xm-CI=w800-h655-no Better send me a couple for testing. ETA: but seriously I would have bought a couple all ready and been able to post some pictures with RDIAS installed but I winter my cattle (and myself) in Utah. I don't think I can buy a firearm here without a Utah DL. Purchasing a Gun in Utah It is unlawful for a gun dealer to sell or transfer any firearm until an instant criminal history background check is conducted and approved by BCI. A valid Utah concealed firearm permit may be used to waive the BCI background check and the corresponding fees. However, the dealer is still required to call BCI to confirm the validity of the concealed firearm permit. A person who wishes to purchase a handgun must show proof of Utah residency. A person who wishes to purchase a rifle or shotgun is not required to show Utah residency; however, the purchaser will be required to comply with the laws of the state in which he/she resides. Laws governing the use of concealed firearms differ from state to state. It is important to understand the laws to ensure that your actions are in compliance with Utah law. Sources: 53-5-704 Division duties - Utah Code §§ 23-20-11 et seq., 24-2-17, 76-10-301, 76-10-501 et seq. I think you might be Ok. |
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Posted: 1/3/2015 7:03:04 PM EDT
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<snip> Laws governing the use of concealed firearms differ from state to state. It is important to understand the laws to ensure that your actions are in compliance with Utah law. Sources: 53-5-704 Division duties - Utah Code §§ 23-20-11 et seq., 24-2-17, 76-10-301, 76-10-501 et seq. I think you might be Ok. OH FINE!!! Spend 30 seconds on google and make me look like a dick
<hijack> Sound like you better go ahead and send me one, include your new rail prototype too while you're at it. On a serious note, do you have a distribute in Utah? My cows and I are in central Utah (Meadow area) if it helps. I know a guy that owns a gunshop in Salt Lake that owes me a bunch o' money..... </hijack> |
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Posted: 1/3/2015 7:06:14 PM EDT
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OH FINE!!! Spend 30 seconds on google and make me look like a dick
<hijack> Sound like you better go ahead and send me one, include your new rail prototype too while you're at it. On a serious note, do you have a distribute in Utah? My cows and I are in central Utah (Meadow area) if it helps. I know a guy that owns a gunshop in Salt Lake that owes me a bunch o' money..... </hijack> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<snip> Laws governing the use of concealed firearms differ from state to state. It is important to understand the laws to ensure that your actions are in compliance with Utah law. Sources: 53-5-704 Division duties - Utah Code §§ 23-20-11 et seq., 24-2-17, 76-10-301, 76-10-501 et seq. I think you might be Ok. OH FINE!!! Spend 30 seconds on google and make me look like a dick
<hijack> Sound like you better go ahead and send me one, include your new rail prototype too while you're at it. On a serious note, do you have a distribute in Utah? My cows and I are in central Utah (Meadow area) if it helps. I know a guy that owns a gunshop in Salt Lake that owes me a bunch o' money..... </hijack> Hehe... We sure do, here ya go. WASATCH ARMS LLC PO Box 1695 Bountiful, Utah 84011 P: 801-831-0963 F: 801-936-0441 www.wasatch-arms.com Have your gunshop guy who owes you money contact us, we can get him setup as a dealer.
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Posted: 1/9/2015 12:19:13 AM EDT
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Any chance you reveal ambi bolt catch at shot show
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Posted: 1/9/2015 12:27:58 AM EDT
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Any chance you reveal ambi bolt catch at shot show Not on the BALIOS-lite, nope.... We have an idea for that, but it's months down the road.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 10:35:31 PM EDT
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OIP Ultralight Rifle Receiver Set (exclusive for Bentwood Gunsmithing) 12.30oz Lightest billet 7075-T6 Aluminum Receiver that we are aware of. This receiver set have bee around for about a year but never made public until recently when the complete OIP ultralight rifle was released. Hope this answers some questions. We were first and the lightest smile emoticon The BAD556-LW is a bit heavier at 13.1 oz. ...... https://www.facebook.com/BattleArms/photos/a.758032610884049.1073741840.152289591458357/895517203802255/?type=1&theater Zzing!... Except my set of Balios-lite receivers also weighs exactly 12.3oz (5.75oz upper, 6.55oz lower) AND they are available for purchase! 
Not that the BAD receivers aren't good, but there is nothing wrong with a little friendly competition
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:33:35 PM EDT
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I just saw that... And hey!!!! With our set, you even get to have a full top rail!!! I don't know if they had tooling set to deep on the sides of the magwell, or if that was on purpose??
Most of our sets are right at around 12.35 oz without all the screws in them and such. As far as first to do it? Hmmm Perhaps, We had drawings of the BALIOS-lite out clear back in January of 2014. The first renderings I could find of the OIF set were when we were already getting product out in stores. Would people want holes, or to lose the top rail in order to save weight?? If Battle Arms is responding to us, then that makes me feel good, I know they are a stand-up company that makes great product.
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Posted: 1/29/2015 11:35:04 PM EDT
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Hmmm... I guess they dont like rear sights.
Lightweight is one thing, but reducing functionality 
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Posted: 1/30/2015 10:44:31 AM EDT
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Hmmm... I guess they dont like rear sights. Lightweight is one thing, but reducing functionality just thinking the same thing. Also prefer 2A's magwell and general lines more |
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Posted: 1/30/2015 11:43:16 AM EDT
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I just saw that... And hey!!!! With our set, you even get to have a full top rail!!! I don't know if they had tooling set to deep on the sides of the magwell, or if that was on purpose??
Most of our sets are right at around 12.35 oz without all the screws in them and such. As far as first to do it? Hmmm Perhaps, We had drawings of the BALIOS-lite out clear back in January of 2014. The first renderings I could find of the OIF set were when we were already getting product out in stores. Would people want holes, or to lose the top rail in order to save weight?? If Battle Arms is responding to us, then that makes me feel good, I know they are a stand-up company that makes great product. I took the tensioning screw out, since my matched set was perfectly snug, that is where I am getting the .05oz. Not interested in a shortened top rail. I like iron sights and the ability to run a scope mount or rings. I also do not care for the look of cut outs. Now cut some from aluminum-lithium billet, if it is possible, and that might really be something! 
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Posted: 2/20/2015 2:02:15 PM EDT
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Here's my contribution to the 2A Balios-Lite builds. 5.4lbs as pictured. Would love to see this build using your Handguard!
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Posted: 2/21/2015 1:11:18 AM EDT
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Here's my contribution to the 2A Balios-Lite builds. 5.4lbs as pictured. Would love to see this build using your Handguard! https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7430/15970513774_c48c9938cf_h.jpg Looks great!! |
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Posted: 2/21/2015 9:55:30 AM EDT
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Would people want holes, or to lose the top rail in order to save weight?? Have holes? 
No holes for me. Yours is lighter and looks better. |
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