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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:31:14 AM EDT
Palmetto State Armory 16" 5.56, M4A1 Hammer-Forged, Chrome-Lined, Patrol Carbine - $999.99
http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/2557.php 
Finally a complete rifle ready to go with a quality optic for one low price. Our Patrol Carbine starts with one of our Hammer-Forged, Machine Gun Steel barrels in the versatile M4A1 profile, mated to our forged aluminum upper, and finished off with standard handguards and A2 Flash hider. The forged lower is built with our 6 position Mil-spec size buffer tube and stock, Standard PSA lower parts kit with A2-style grip and aluminum trigger guard. The rifle is topped off with an Aimpoint Patrol Rifle optic, and Magpul Back up sight. It comes with one 30 Round D&H PSA Magazine (where allowed by law) so all you have to provide is the ammo to start having fun. Barrel: A proprietary blend of Hammer forged chrome molly vanadium made by FN that is referred to as "Machine Gun Steel" by virtue of its use in FN's M249 and M240 weapons. The hammer forging process work hardens the steel, making it more durable. In addition, the chrome process for the bore allows for a lining almost twice as thick as a standard M16 for enhanced durability. Chambered in 5.56 NATO, with a 1/7 twist, M4 barrel extension, and a carbine gas system. M4A1 style profile is phosphate coated to mil-specs. Barrel is High Pressure tested, and Magnetic Particle inspected, to ensure quality and dependability, and is finished off with an F-marked front sight post with sling swivel, and A2 flash hider. Upper: Forged 7075-T6 A3 AR upper is made to MIL-SPECS and hard coat anodized black for durability. Featuring machined T marks, and a mil-spec finish. These uppers are made for us right here in the USA by a mil-spec manufacturer, and are marked with the Palmetto State Armory logo on the left side, up front, just below the rail. Bolt: Bolt is made of Mil-spec Carpenter 158 steel, Shot peened, MPI and HPT. Gas key is secured with grade 8 fasteners and staked per mil-spec. Bolt carrier is parkerized outside, chrome lined inside, and laser engraved with the Palmetto State Armory logo. Lower: These forged lowers are quality made using material is 7075-T6 and are marked "MULTI" for caliber. Finish is Black Hardcoat Anodize per MIL-8625 Type 3 class 2. Mil-spec-sized buffer tube has 6 adjustment positions, is finished with a Palmetto State Armory M4-style stock and has a staked castle nut. Standard carbine buffer is Black anodized and has the PSA logo on the face. The standard PSA combat trigger has a smooth pull and clean break. Optic: A hard-anodized 30mm tube was utilized, enclosing a high efficiency circuit that allows the sight to be turned on and left on for up to three years using a single battery. The front lens utilizes a unique band-pass coating, which allows the sight to be used with all generations of night vision devices. The modular QRP2 mount includes a removable spacer that indexes the sight at the optimal height for co-witness with the standard iron sights on AR15/M16/M4 Carbine style weapons. The QRP2 mount also incorporates a torque-limiting twist knob that provides the optimal level of pressure on the rail while completely eliminating the possibility of over-tightening. Both the front and rear lenses are recessed within the sight body to provide protection against impact damage, scratches, and fingerprints. Flip covers are included to further protect the lenses, and a transparent rear lens cover is utilized allowing the user to engage a target with the lens covers closed in an emergency situation. A two Minute of Angle (2 MOA) red dot is utilized to allow maximum accuracy at all distances and under all environmental conditions. Back up sight: Magpul MBUS is a American made dual aperture, windage adjustable folding back up sight that mounts to the picatinny rail, and had a low profile when folded. Each rifle is assembled to order with care. Please allow 7 business days for your upper to ship. Shipping $15 
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:43:00 AM EDT
[#1]
Awesome deal.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 3:16:07 PM EDT
[#2]
Wow, I dont know how you guys do it.
Someone must be married to someone at FN Even if the Optic is $300 (Which it sells for $400 everywhere) thats $700 for a Rifle with all in-spec parts plus the bonus of a Hammer Forged Barrel Can you substitute an H or H2 buffer and pay the difference? |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 5:19:02 PM EDT
[#3]
As tacky as this sounds, PSA just released the game changer. Nobody can compete with that, not even the spider company.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 5:29:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Amazing deal, I don't know how they do it.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 6:13:44 PM EDT
[#5]
wow this is one sweet deal
very nice |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 6:39:39 PM EDT
[#6]
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As tacky as this sounds, PSA just released the game changer. Nobody can compete with that, not even the spider company. Well said! It's incredable what PSA accomplished in just six short months. Excellent deal !! |
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:16:32 PM EDT
[#7]
Nice deal but for the love of god WHY does it have a carb length/16"? I will never understand why companies insist on supplying this combo.
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:47:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Damn. Nice setup at a great price!!1
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Posted: 9/27/2011 7:57:35 PM EDT
[#9]
HOLY CRAP
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Posted: 9/27/2011 8:02:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Wow. Very impressive.
You deserve to sell a LOT of these. 
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Posted: 9/27/2011 11:08:01 PM EDT
[#11]
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Nice deal but for the love of god WHY does it have a carb length/16"? I will never understand why companies insist on supplying this combo. They've had that upper in stock for a while, I'm thinking they're trying to move stock by combining it with an amazing deal. |
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Posted: 9/28/2011 3:22:23 AM EDT
[#12]
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Nice deal but for the love of god WHY does it have a carb length/16"? I will never understand why companies insist on supplying this combo.  because its popular.
Very impressed with the price and quality PSA 
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Posted: 9/28/2011 4:15:32 AM EDT
[#13]
Any chance of a gun like this coming in other upper styles like mid-length or dissy?
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Posted: 9/28/2011 7:09:58 AM EDT
[#14]
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Nice deal but for the love of god WHY does it have a carb length/16"? I will never understand why companies insist on supplying this combo. They've had that upper in stock for a while, I'm thinking they're trying to move stock by combining it with an amazing deal. These uppers are using the brand new HF barrels that are stamped Palmetto instead of the fn roll mark. I just got my HF upper a week ago and it had the FN roll mark, so can't just be a surplus of uppers they are trying to move. It is just like someone else said above...a great deal and game changer. |
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Posted: 9/28/2011 1:12:11 PM EDT
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Nice deal but for the love of god WHY does it have a carb length/16"? I will never understand why companies insist on supplying this combo. because its popular.
Very impressed with the price and quality PSA I agree that it us a popular combo, Mostly because the majority if costumers are uninformed. But I would think the people running big arms companies like palmetto and sig and the others would know that a midlength system has nothing but upsides on a 16" barrel. Longer sight radius, more rail space, arguably a softer recoil pulse, arguably less wear on parts, and it just plain looks better. Carb/16"s always look a little silly, even Mine. And then think about this, is some average Joe who knows little about ARs and just wants one gonna staunchly refuse to buy one of these if it had a midlength system? Of course not. He doesn't know the difference. So what's the point in making them this way? The guys who do know and care about gas system length differences will want the midlength, and the guys who don't know or care about gas system length won't give a damn, so I don't see a downside. I could understand what one guy said about them wanting to clear out stock that's sitting around. Or perhaps they just happened to get a sweet deal on a bunch if CHF barrels that were allready profiled for carb systems. Either way this is still a sweet deal. I have no idea how they are selling them this cheap with the PRO. |
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Posted: 9/28/2011 1:58:50 PM EDT
[#16]
PSA does off those configs. They are just offering this setup at this price at this time.
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Posted: 10/2/2011 4:53:09 PM EDT
[#17]
Disregard last transmission. I was coming in broken and stupid.
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Posted: 10/4/2011 3:29:33 PM EDT
[#18]
I wish PSA would put together a killer deal on a mid-length with HF barrel and awesome optic. I'd be in no doubt....
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Posted: 10/4/2011 4:37:57 PM EDT
[#19]
Funny thing about being in business. You sell what sells if you want to stay in business. Nice rifle, great price guys.
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Posted: 10/4/2011 6:08:15 PM EDT
[#20]
They sell nice enough, that they are out of them mofo's!!!!!!!!!!! Ask me how I know...........LOL.. 9080 Out
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Posted: 10/6/2011 5:08:14 AM EDT
[#21]
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Nice deal but for the love of god WHY does it have a carb length/16"? I will never understand why companies insist on supplying this combo. because its popular.
Very impressed with the price and quality PSA I agree that it us a popular combo, Mostly because the majority if costumers are uninformed. But I would think the people running big arms companies like palmetto and sig and the others would know that a midlength system has nothing but upsides on a 16" barrel. Longer sight radius, more rail space, arguably a softer recoil pulse, arguably less wear on parts, and it just plain looks better. Carb/16"s always look a little silly, even Mine. And then think about this, is some average Joe who knows little about ARs and just wants one gonna staunchly refuse to buy one of these if it had a midlength system? Of course not. He doesn't know the difference. So what's the point in making them this way? The guys who do know and care about gas system length differences will want the midlength, and the guys who don't know or care about gas system length won't give a damn, so I don't see a downside. I could understand what one guy said about them wanting to clear out stock that's sitting around. Or perhaps they just happened to get a sweet deal on a bunch if CHF barrels that were allready profiled for carb systems. Either way this is still a sweet deal. I have no idea how they are selling them this cheap with the PRO. As long as "the majority of customers are uninformed" as you say, they will want something significantly similar to a Colt M4 / 6920. Because as far as most of the firearms buying public, the Colt M4 is the "gold standard" of ARs. I'm afraid to inform you that there is in fact nothing wrong with the carbine gas system. Both the benefits of the intermediate length gas system and the flaws of the carbine length gas system on a 16" barrel have been greatly exaggerated by marketing, not engineering departments. There's nothing wrong with a midlength, either, but it's not the world changing improvement you seem to think it is. ~Augee |
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Posted: 10/6/2011 10:27:28 AM EDT
[#22]
I'm sure the middy will be out soon, these days everyone wants what they think the Mil is using and most guys don't realize that the 16" barrel on a carbine length gas system is so overgassed. I am sure that the rifle is G2G knowing Palmetto but I would prefer a middy. Maybe by the time they get theirs out I will have cash for a spare rifle. As a company they have to fill the perceived greatest need in the market first.
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Posted: 10/6/2011 11:40:34 AM EDT
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I'm sure the middy will be out soon, these days everyone wants what they think the Mil is using and most guys don't realize that the 16" barrel on a carbine length gas system is so overgassed. I am sure that the rifle is G2G knowing Palmetto but I would prefer a middy. Maybe by the time they get theirs out I will have cash for a spare rifle. As a company they have to fill the perceived greatest need in the market first. like I said, throw in a 16" HF barrel with a midlength gas system and an awesome optic at an awesome price and I'm all over it! Maybe a complete package with their Dissipator? |
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Posted: 10/11/2011 2:51:32 PM EDT
[#24]
Here's a good reason to sell a carbine upper with an Aimpoint PRO for $1015: SBR it. This would be an excellent gun to run as a MK18 clone for simply sending it to ADCO for a chop-n-thread treatment. $1280 for a complete SBR with one of the finest optic choices out there.
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Posted: 10/11/2011 4:53:28 PM EDT
[#25]
How do these compare to a Spike Tactical or other mid range AR?
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Posted: 10/11/2011 5:26:41 PM EDT
[#26]
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Nice deal but for the love of god WHY does it have a carb length/16"? I will never understand why companies insist on supplying this combo. because its popular.
Very impressed with the price and quality PSA I agree that it us a popular combo, Mostly because the majority if costumers are uninformed. But I would think the people running big arms companies like palmetto and sig and the others would know that a midlength system has nothing but upsides on a 16" barrel. Longer sight radius, more rail space, arguably a softer recoil pulse, arguably less wear on parts, and it just plain looks better. Carb/16"s always look a little silly, even Mine. And then think about this, is some average Joe who knows little about ARs and just wants one gonna staunchly refuse to buy one of these if it had a midlength system? Of course not. He doesn't know the difference. So what's the point in making them this way? The guys who do know and care about gas system length differences will want the midlength, and the guys who don't know or care about gas system length won't give a damn, so I don't see a downside. I could understand what one guy said about them wanting to clear out stock that's sitting around. Or perhaps they just happened to get a sweet deal on a bunch if CHF barrels that were allready profiled for carb systems. Either way this is still a sweet deal. I have no idea how they are selling them this cheap with the PRO. Moderator Warning Please save your opinions for other threads. This is a new product thread. Opinions can be shared elswhere. This one, was not appropriate for this thread. |
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Posted: 10/20/2011 1:52:22 PM EDT
[#27]
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Nice deal but for the love of god WHY does it have a carb length/16"? I will never understand why companies insist on supplying this combo. because its popular.
Very impressed with the price and quality PSA I agree that it us a popular combo, Mostly because the majority if costumers are uninformed. But I would think the people running big arms companies like palmetto and sig and the others would know that a midlength system has nothing but upsides on a 16" barrel. Longer sight radius, more rail space, arguably a softer recoil pulse, arguably less wear on parts, and it just plain looks better. Carb/16"s always look a little silly, even Mine. And then think about this, is some average Joe who knows little about ARs and just wants one gonna staunchly refuse to buy one of these if it had a midlength system? Of course not. He doesn't know the difference. So what's the point in making them this way? The guys who do know and care about gas system length differences will want the midlength, and the guys who don't know or care about gas system length won't give a damn, so I don't see a downside. I could understand what one guy said about them wanting to clear out stock that's sitting around. Or perhaps they just happened to get a sweet deal on a bunch if CHF barrels that were allready profiled for carb systems. Either way this is still a sweet deal. I have no idea how they are selling them this cheap with the PRO. As long as "the majority of customers are uninformed" as you say, they will want something significantly similar to a Colt M4 / 6920. Because as far as most of the firearms buying public, the Colt M4 is the "gold standard" of ARs. I'm afraid to inform you that there is in fact nothing wrong with the carbine gas system. Both the benefits of the intermediate length gas system and the flaws of the carbine length gas system on a 16" barrel have been greatly exaggerated by marketing, not engineering departments. There's nothing wrong with a midlength, either, but it's not the world changing improvement you seem to think it is. ~Augee ETA: we are off topic. Edited to heed moderator warning. |
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Posted: 11/8/2011 6:37:07 AM EDT
[#28]
Hey Palmetto...
Can this rifle combo be had with a lightweight "pencil" barrel, or is the M4 profile the only way you're offering this? I'm thinking of this for my wife, and less weight is better. Thanks. |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 8:54:47 AM EDT
[#29]
http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv308/bgoff689/Range%20Trip%2011-11-2011/RangeTrip11-11-201110.jpg
Back in October I was in Walmarts checking out their Bushmasters when an old friend told me about the deal Palmetto State Armory was offering. I hadn't fired an M16 since circa 1993 when I retired from the military. Back in 1969 when I started lugging an M16 GAU around, the only attachments we had were Starlite Scopes and XM148 40mm Grenade launchers which evolved into the M203.. Things have changed a whole lot since then. 
Anyway we took a trip later on to Palmetto State Armory and I tore it down and checked it out real close. I bought the thing after reading the specs sheet and figuring out just how well they were made. The Aimpoint Point PRO was of course a nice addition. I managed to get a range trip in with it but only had time to put a hundred rounds through it. It's a great platform and with all these new add ons or changes available it a good start. I have been looking around for some modifications. I started by getting an Aimpoint 3X Magnifier with a twist mount, which ought to get here before my next range trip. I'd been looking around at ARs for a few years now and was waiting for the right deal. I wasn't about to settle for a Colt at their prices so the PSA was a good deal. |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 9:54:34 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: Nice first post.http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv308/bgoff689/Range%20Trip%2011-11-2011/RangeTrip11-11-201110.jpg Back in October I was in Walmarts checking out their Bushmasters when an old friend told me about the deal Palmetto State Armory was offering. I hadn't fired an M16 since circa 1993 when I retired from the military. Back in 1969 when I started lugging an M16 GAU around, the only attachments we had were Starlite Scopes and XM148 40mm Grenade launchers which evolved into the M203.. Things have changed a whole lot since then. Anyway we took a trip later on to Palmetto State Armory and I tore it down and checked it out real close. I bought the thing after reading the specs sheet and figuring out just how well they were made. The Aimpoint Point PRO was of course a nice addition. I managed to get a range trip in with it but only had time to put a hundred rounds through it. It's a great platform and with all these new add ons or changes available it a good start. I have been looking around for some modifications. I started by getting an Aimpoint 3X Magnifier with a |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 11:20:42 AM EDT
[#31]
Wow, PSA is awesome.
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Posted: 11/21/2011 1:02:47 PM EDT
[#32]
Almost makes me wish I needed another 5.56 AR.
Looks like an outstanding deal. |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 1:32:25 PM EDT
[#33]
Be cool if you guys had a limited run of ban compliant deals,
 
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Posted: 11/21/2011 6:15:21 PM EDT
[#34]
Thanks.
Adding the Aimpoint 3x Magnifier means doing some changes since its 4" something long. The current rail doesn't have room for both Aimpoints and a backup sight. I could use a LaRue Tactical Cantilever QD Comp M Mount the M68 CCO to set the Aimpoint PRO to where it extends further off the existing single rail. But the LaRue is going for $150.00 So replacing the M4 Style Hand Guard with new set of hand guards with some rails is in order. I could think of a few other things I might want to add later on, so a new rail system might be my best bet. YHM Carbine Forearms with some mounting points for swiveling Sling Studs or Mil Spec. Picatinny rails is one option that I'm looking at. |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 7:10:55 PM EDT
[#35]
amazing price
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Posted: 11/21/2011 9:47:36 PM EDT
[#36]
Hey Slowhand, what range is that at?
To keep on topic. Palmetto has really been changing the quality of firearm you get for an entry level price for the better. If I had the cash, I would get one of these for sure. I am looking at one of the uppers though. |
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Posted: 11/21/2011 11:32:37 PM EDT
[#37]
http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv308/bgoff689/Range%20Trip%2011-11-2011/RangeTrip11-11-20119.jpg I use the Mid Carolina Rifle Club, located in Gaston,SC. It's way out in the boondocks but well worth the time to travel to. I also collect and shoot blackpowder revolvers so the local indoor range was out of the question. The weather down here is mild in the fall and winter months, compared to up North, so I can hit the range on a regular basis. It's a rather large area with several large ranges. I got there late in the afternoon on Veterans Day, around 4:15. There was only one guy shooting on another range so there was no crowd to deal with. Members have to use a pass key card to get in the gate. I put a 100 rounds through her before it starting getting dark. I just had enough time to see how the Aimpoint and the backup sight was working when it was time to go. Getting her on paper at 50 yards was of course easy. Now I just have to fine tune her for 200 yards and she'll be good to go. I'm waiting to see how the Aimpoint 3X Magnifier sits on the current rail but since I'm planning on changing out the forearm covers or handguards, anyway it probably won't matter much. My local Palmetto State Armory has a fairly good supply of replacement options available. No rush though, I'll shop around a bit first. PSA did a great job in the assembly of a basic package and the money was right. I just have to make a few modifications to suit my personal preferences. |
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Posted: 12/1/2011 9:37:47 PM EDT
[#38]
http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv308/bgoff689/PSA%20556%20M4A1/PSAAROpticsChange12-1-112.jpg
I then ran into a deal last week on an Aimpoint3x Magnifier, with a twist off mount, which I bought. Unfortunately there’s not enough room on the on the rail for both Aimpoint Optics and the Magpul Back up sight. I started looking around at my options. A LaRue Tactical Cantilever QD Mount M68 CCO, also called the M68, would have been a simple one but I had other ideas. I went over to the PSA Front Store and talked to one of their gunsmiths. I decided to get Midwest Industries 2nd Generation AR15/M4 Drop in Handguard and set the Aimpoint PRO forward, moved the 3X Magnifier forward and set the backup sight one slot forward, per his recommendation. Then added 3 Magpul Ladder Rail Protectors. The gunsmith put this package together in the store and it looks quite nice. http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/vv308/bgoff689/PSA%20556%20M4A1/PSAAROpticsChange12_01-111.jpg I really didn’t care much for the M4 Style Handguard and the replacement feels really nice. Plus I got the optics the way I wanted them. I bought lunch for the gun smith, since they were having a busy day and one guy was going out for it. One has to appreciate good, customer service. |
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Posted: 12/4/2011 6:52:40 PM EDT
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60 day rule
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