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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:28:30 PM EDT
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Interested as well.
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Posted: 7/20/2016 11:38:48 PM EDT
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Never mind
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Posted: 7/21/2016 12:01:11 AM EDT
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Pardon me for asking, but are you referring to the locking rings for an XM 177 or CAR stock buffer tube?
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Posted: 7/21/2016 5:54:05 AM EDT
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Call Essential Arms. They make new ones that they sell with their stock kits. But I am unsure if they will sell them separately.
Theirs only has one hole and it's not drilled all the way thru. But that's an easy fix with a hand drill.. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 9:13:17 AM EDT
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Hey guys looking to get a source for retro style buffer extension locking rings. If you know where hit me up. Contact member Hkiller me may be able to help you out. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 6:19:29 PM EDT
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I got one from Nodak Spud. They are factory retro Colt, new in the wrap.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 6:23:49 PM EDT
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I got one from Nodak Spud. They are factory retro Colt, new in the wrap. How recently did you buy one? |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 6:32:37 PM EDT
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I got one from Nodak Spud. They are factory retro Colt, new in the wrap. How recently did you buy one? I got one from them a while back also but I think they are out now, I don't see them listed on their site now. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 6:41:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I got one from Nodak Spud. They are factory retro Colt, new in the wrap. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:28:14 PM EDT
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I got one from Nodak Spud. They are factory retro Colt, new in the wrap. Nds did hv new colts. I made some recently. There a b%!#:h to make! 
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:32:24 PM EDT
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there are some on the EE right now..........
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:12:47 PM EDT
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Nds did hv new colts. I made some recently. There a b%!#:h to make! <a href="http://s745.photobucket.com/user/sergio762/media/20160721_175337_zpsdafl399k.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx96/sergio762/20160721_175337_zpsdafl399k.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I got one from Nodak Spud. They are factory retro Colt, new in the wrap. Nds did hv new colts. I made some recently. There a b%!#:h to make! <a href="http://s745.photobucket.com/user/sergio762/media/20160721_175337_zpsdafl399k.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx96/sergio762/20160721_175337_zpsdafl399k.jpg</a> Yessir HK, they are a bioatch to machine, arent they! What did you make yours out of? |
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Posted: 7/22/2016 1:12:23 PM EDT
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Nds did hv new colts. I made some recently. There a b%!#:h to make! <a href="http://s745.photobucket.com/user/sergio762/media/20160721_175337_zpsdafl399k.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx96/sergio762/20160721_175337_zpsdafl399k.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I got one from Nodak Spud. They are factory retro Colt, new in the wrap. Nds did hv new colts. I made some recently. There a b%!#:h to make! <a href="http://s745.photobucket.com/user/sergio762/media/20160721_175337_zpsdafl399k.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i745.photobucket.com/albums/xx96/sergio762/20160721_175337_zpsdafl399k.jpg</a> That looks great, HK! Aside from the park being a tad bit darker, yours looks pretty damn close to the Colt lock ring. Can't wait for mine to be delivered. It will be the finishing touch on my XM177E2 project! |
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Posted: 7/24/2016 8:59:49 PM EDT
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Anyony have dimensions?
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Posted: 7/24/2016 10:02:44 PM EDT
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Anyony have dimensions? !.357 OD width.....3125 threads are 1 3/16 - 16 2 holes....125 dia. 180 degrees apart stake notches......3 @ 120 degree separation, cut at 45 degrees. width .090 and .062 on a side break edge frt/rear The batch that I ran some time back were made from A2 steel, heat treated and drawn back to about 45-47 Rc I suspect the originals were probably a 41XX series, PH |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 12:20:39 AM EDT
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!.357 OD width.....3125 threads are 1 3/16 - 16 2 holes....125 dia. 180 degrees apart stake notches......3 @ 120 degree separation, cut at 45 degrees. width .090 and .062 on a side break edge frt/rear The batch that I ran some time back were made from A2 steel, heat treated and drawn back to about 45-47 Rc I suspect the originals were probably a 41XX series, PH Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyony have dimensions? !.357 OD width.....3125 threads are 1 3/16 - 16 2 holes....125 dia. 180 degrees apart stake notches......3 @ 120 degree separation, cut at 45 degrees. width .090 and .062 on a side break edge frt/rear The batch that I ran some time back were made from A2 steel, heat treated and drawn back to about 45-47 Rc I suspect the originals were probably a 41XX series, PH 4140, i think when we checked the colt one on the right it was 35 Rc. Seemed little soft but never has issues with them. |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 9:12:31 AM EDT
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Did colt have a chamfer on the edge or a fillet? |
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Posted: 7/25/2016 8:32:08 PM EDT
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For the 3 cuts on the side' they are .062 deep correct? It looks correct when i draw it.
And thank you for getting the dimensions. I appreciate it. I saw refrence somewhere that the originals were 4130. Cant recall where. But if thats correct, i believe we have a lot of it. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 12:15:44 AM EDT
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Been scouring the Internet. No luck. I need a dozen too.
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Posted: 7/26/2016 12:50:20 AM EDT
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Lwschneider are a parts supplier that still make them. Likely due to the fact that Canada still uses the older style and they are a parts supplier for Colt Canada.
If Brownells is truly jumping into the retro game they should order a run from them. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 8:05:03 AM EDT
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For the 3 cuts on the side' they are .062 deep correct? It looks correct when i draw it. And thank you for getting the dimensions. I appreciate it. I saw refrence somewhere that the originals were 4130. Cant recall where. But if thats correct, i believe we have a lot of it. Jm.......the cuts are a sixtenth on their short sides. 1/16 x 1/16 x hypotenuce. copy? |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 9:19:33 AM EDT
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Jm.......the cuts are a sixtenth on their short sides. 1/16 x 1/16 x hypotenuce. copy? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For the 3 cuts on the side' they are .062 deep correct? It looks correct when i draw it. And thank you for getting the dimensions. I appreciate it. I saw refrence somewhere that the originals were 4130. Cant recall where. But if thats correct, i believe we have a lot of it. Jm.......the cuts are a sixtenth on their short sides. 1/16 x 1/16 x hypotenuce. copy? Got it, Thanks. Hopefully I can started on these this week, waiting on 2MM endmills. |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 8:25:51 PM EDT
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Got it, Thanks. Hopefully I can started on these this week, waiting on 2MM endmills. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For the 3 cuts on the side' they are .062 deep correct? It looks correct when i draw it. And thank you for getting the dimensions. I appreciate it. I saw refrence somewhere that the originals were 4130. Cant recall where. But if thats correct, i believe we have a lot of it. Jm.......the cuts are a sixtenth on their short sides. 1/16 x 1/16 x hypotenuce. copy? Got it, Thanks. Hopefully I can started on these this week, waiting on 2MM endmills. JM.........have you ever done any threading on a cnc mill/machining center? |
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Posted: 7/26/2016 11:46:17 PM EDT
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HKiller,
My lock ring showed up today. Looks great! Sprayed it with some brake cleaner to get the protectant oil off of it and it's now a much lighter grey color. Now if only the postal service hadn't of lost the new end plates I ordered, I could install it! (USPS seems to be losing a lot of my packages lately!  )
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Posted: 7/27/2016 11:51:55 AM EDT
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JM.........have you ever done any threading on a cnc mill/machining center? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For the 3 cuts on the side' they are .062 deep correct? It looks correct when i draw it. And thank you for getting the dimensions. I appreciate it. I saw refrence somewhere that the originals were 4130. Cant recall where. But if thats correct, i believe we have a lot of it. Jm.......the cuts are a sixtenth on their short sides. 1/16 x 1/16 x hypotenuce. copy? Got it, Thanks. Hopefully I can started on these this week, waiting on 2MM endmills. JM.........have you ever done any threading on a cnc mill/machining center? Yes, But im going to Do the main body in a CNC lathe then place them in a fixture to cut the slots on a 5 axis mill. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 11:52:44 AM EDT
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HKiller, My lock ring showed up today. Looks great! Sprayed it with some brake cleaner to get the protectant oil off of it and it's now a much lighter grey color. Now if only the postal service hadn't of lost the new end plates I ordered, I could install it! (USPS seems to be losing a lot of my packages lately! )
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee450/kdwaddle/8b1f2e4f-e373-465d-b4f6-eff2e88452d3_zpsh7vkhov3.jpg on Colts didnt the hole on the side go all the way through? |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 12:34:30 PM EDT
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on Colts didnt the hole on the side go all the way through? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HKiller, My lock ring showed up today. Looks great! Sprayed it with some brake cleaner to get the protectant oil off of it and it's now a much lighter grey color. Now if only the postal service hadn't of lost the new end plates I ordered, I could install it! (USPS seems to be losing a lot of my packages lately! )
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee450/kdwaddle/8b1f2e4f-e373-465d-b4f6-eff2e88452d3_zpsh7vkhov3.jpg on Colts didnt the hole on the side go all the way through? I've seen both. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 12:41:46 PM EDT
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2 ADS ON EE RIGHT NOW
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Posted: 7/27/2016 12:54:53 PM EDT
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on Colts didnt the hole on the side go all the way through? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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HKiller, My lock ring showed up today. Looks great! Sprayed it with some brake cleaner to get the protectant oil off of it and it's now a much lighter grey color. Now if only the postal service hadn't of lost the new end plates I ordered, I could install it! (USPS seems to be losing a lot of my packages lately! )
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee450/kdwaddle/8b1f2e4f-e373-465d-b4f6-eff2e88452d3_zpsh7vkhov3.jpg on Colts didnt the hole on the side go all the way through? I have seen both too. Not sure why. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 2:21:35 PM EDT
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I have Colts that go through and some that stop at the threads. My problem is finding a tool to correctly torque them down. I tried the Brownells tool and the pin bent. Purchased a German spanner and the pin turned out to be a hair to big. Now I need to find a way to reduce the size of the pin, without destroying the 80 dollar tool.
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Posted: 7/27/2016 9:38:19 PM EDT
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I have Colts that go through and some that stop at the threads. My problem is finding a tool to correctly torque them down. I tried the Brownells tool and the pin bent. Purchased a German spanner and the pin turned out to be a hair to big. Now I need to find a way to reduce the size of the pin, without destroying the 80 dollar tool. Just came here to post this. What is everyone using to install these? I really don't want to buy an expensive tool that will likely only be used once. |
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Posted: 7/27/2016 10:30:32 PM EDT
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Just came here to post this. What is everyone using to install these? I really don't want to buy an expensive tool that will likely only be used once. I've been using one of these cheapies. Hasn't marred any of my Colt lock rings (or castle nuts) yet and I can get them plenty tight. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiOlMGqjpXOAhUEXR4KHeRvAbUQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2F15sports.com%2Findex.php%3Froute%3Dproduct%2Fproduct%26path%3D57_100%26product_id%3D125&psig=AFQjCNGPG5oG9C3EAUavNXpX08VeA5Kyhw&ust=1469759324852063 |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 12:17:03 PM EDT
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Just ordered 2 of the "Carbine Lock Nuts (Vietnam Style, the gentleman also called them)" from Essential Arms.
Should have them late next week. He said they list them for $20 each, got them for $12 each plus $4-5 shipping. He said they couldn't justify selling them for $20 a piece. Must have a lot of them I thought 
I'll post some photos when I get them. |
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Posted: 7/29/2016 1:20:39 PM EDT
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I just ordered one from Essential Arms for $12 as well, we'll see how it goes!
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Posted: 8/3/2016 2:38:44 PM EDT
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Received my locking rings from Essential Arms today. Faster than I expected.
One thing I didn't think of was inquiring as to the finish, 'blued' they are. Oh well. Also, for those into the finite details, I think they chamfered the wrong, side, it's on the side that butts up to the end-plate with the slots for staking. Good enough for my builds I suppose. Here are some pics:  </a>" />
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I'll update how they fit shortly............... 
Update: Good fit on my extensions. Hand tightened for now; I need to buy a decent wrench for them. |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 3:06:32 PM EDT
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Received my locking rings from Essential Arms today. Faster than I expected. One thing I didn't think of was inquiring as to the finish, 'blued' they are. Oh well. Also, for those into the finite details, I think they chamfered the wrong, side, it's on the side that butts up to the end-plate with the slots for staking. Good enough for my builds I suppose. Here are some pics: http://<a href=http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/RBMIII/2016-08-03%2011.35.06.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/RBMIII/2016-08-03%2011.35.50.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/RBMIII/2016-08-03%2011.34.48.jpg</a>" /> I'll update how they fit shortly...............
Update: Good fit on my extensions. Hand tightened for now; I need to buy a decent wrench for them. Send them to John Thomas for a quick park job (Retro Arms Works). |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 3:32:21 PM EDT
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Received my locking rings from Essential Arms today. Faster than I expected. One thing I didn't think of was inquiring as to the finish, 'blued' they are. Oh well. Also, for those into the finite details, I think they chamfered the wrong, side, it's on the side that butts up to the end-plate with the slots for staking. Good enough for my builds I suppose. Here are some pics: http://<a href=http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/RBMIII/2016-08-03%2011.35.06.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/RBMIII/2016-08-03%2011.35.50.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/RBMIII/2016-08-03%2011.34.48.jpg</a>" /> I'll update how they fit shortly...............
Update: Good fit on my extensions. Hand tightened for now; I need to buy a decent wrench for them. Send them to John Thomas for a quick park job (Retro Arms Works). Just may do that. I'm looking for pricing on some sights now to park them. |
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Posted: 8/3/2016 3:37:29 PM EDT
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Just may do that. I'm looking for pricing on some sights now to park them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Received my locking rings from Essential Arms today. Faster than I expected. One thing I didn't think of was inquiring as to the finish, 'blued' they are. Oh well. Also, for those into the finite details, I think they chamfered the wrong, side, it's on the side that butts up to the end-plate with the slots for staking. Good enough for my builds I suppose. Here are some pics: http://<a href=http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/RBMIII/2016-08-03%2011.35.06.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/RBMIII/2016-08-03%2011.35.50.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad318/RBMIII/2016-08-03%2011.34.48.jpg</a>" /> I'll update how they fit shortly...............
Update: Good fit on my extensions. Hand tightened for now; I need to buy a decent wrench for them. Send them to John Thomas for a quick park job (Retro Arms Works). Just may do that. I'm looking for pricing on some sights now to park them. I don't have a clue what he'll charge, but on other work he's done for me he was nearly impossible to beat price wise for the quality. For something simple like this I'd bet a $20 or so would get them mailed back to you. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 11:16:36 AM EDT
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They are cheap, but look a little rough.
Making them in any small batch is hardly worth it. I may still do a small run just for the hell of it. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 11:27:27 AM EDT
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They are cheap, but look a little rough. Making them in any small batch is hardly worth it. I may still do a small run just for the hell of it. The Essential Arms pieces? Oh, I agree, a park job would make them look a lot better in my opinion. It's just a matter of cost, would it be worth it. I'll call John Thomas today for a quote and lead time. |
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Posted: 8/4/2016 11:38:16 AM EDT
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The Essential Arms pieces? Oh, I agree, a park job would make them look a lot better in my opinion. It's just a matter of cost, would it be worth it. I'll call John Thomas today for a quote and lead time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They are cheap, but look a little rough. Making them in any small batch is hardly worth it. I may still do a small run just for the hell of it. The Essential Arms pieces? Oh, I agree, a park job would make them look a lot better in my opinion. It's just a matter of cost, would it be worth it. I'll call John Thomas today for a quote and lead time. Yes, the OD finish is a little rough, Dull tooling. and burrs on the staking slots. |
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Posted: 8/10/2016 3:09:51 PM EDT
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Well,
I sent my locking rings out to John Thomas. I wasn't in a hurry or anything, thinking a small job they'd get done with a bunch of other parts. He received them on Monday and I had them back today via First Class mail. Guy's got like 50 little retro elves working for him or something. Didn't know first class worked so fast too. John is highly recommended. I couldn't be happier. I did indoor shots installed for an idea of the color compared to relatively known parts colors.  </a>" />
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Posted: 8/10/2016 7:40:43 PM EDT
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Yeah, John is a badass and does very professional work.
I'm glad to see the lock rings turn out so well. |
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Posted: 8/13/2016 9:54:10 AM EDT
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OK the price is ridiculous but these are the real deal. Made by Colt Canada. Not sure if they can ship south of the border or not.
http://www.nordicmarksman.com/Nut-Receiver-Extension.html |
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Posted: 8/13/2016 10:47:41 AM EDT
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OK the price is ridiculous but these are the real deal. Made by Colt Canada. Not sure if they can ship south of the border or not. http://www.nordicmarksman.com/Nut-Receiver-Extension.html They may well be real deal Colt, but they aren't exactly correct for circa '60,s 70,s. Four staking slots.......never seen that on a 60's vintage Colt. The spanner holes that don't go through......I've read that they were used, but have never seen a verifiable original Colt 60's/70,s model that came with them. I'm not saying that "no through hole" were not used by Colt in the 60,s/70,s....just saying I've never seen a verifiable original with them. They would be easier to machine, for sure, without the through hole. Single point chasing the threads first, then drilling the through holes can bugger up the threads. Drilling the spanner holes first, then single pointing the threads messes with the tool insert, being its now an interrupted cut. An 1 3/16 - 16 tap would solve those problems, but I've always single pointed the threads. 
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Posted: 8/13/2016 2:47:53 PM EDT
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Interesting, never noticed that they had four staking slots.
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