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Posted: 1/27/2016 4:23:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Matt, your pics of your plate and three originals....the middle pic looks like the one that belongs to a fella named Robert, and the far right one looks like it's from the ATF "gun room". Who's is the left orig.?
Also, your lower plate screw, what size is it? |
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Posted: 1/27/2016 7:52:11 PM EDT
[#2]
That plastic buffer caught my eye. Any plans on making a run of those? I already have a 607 build but would love to have a plastic buffer like the ones i have seen in the real 607's.
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Posted: 1/27/2016 8:09:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That plastic buffer caught my eye. Any plans on making a run of those? I already have a 607 build but would love to have a plastic buffer like the ones i have seen in the real 607's. +1 on this. I'd take one or two. |
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Posted: 1/27/2016 9:34:01 PM EDT
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And I do have an extra partial fence NoDak lower. 
Guess I aught to SBR it now. Will these stocks be the same length as the CAR when extended? |
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Posted: 1/27/2016 9:44:28 PM EDT
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And I do have an extra partial fence NoDak lower.
Guess I aught to SBR it now. Will these stocks be the same length as the CAR when extended? Should be the same length as a type D when extended. (M16 length) |
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Posted: 1/27/2016 9:50:38 PM EDT
[#6]
I love the type B stock
Would make a sweet 607 proto build! 
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Posted: 1/27/2016 11:29:52 PM EDT
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I love the type B stock Would make a sweet 607 proto build! Yeah, but it would take balls to cut one. |
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Posted: 1/27/2016 11:36:21 PM EDT
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http://<a href=https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1586/24021331044_1bee821821.jpgIMG_3132 by Deer Hunter, on Flickr" /> Isnt that what that is? ^ Maybe Im seeing things? 
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Posted: 1/28/2016 12:01:37 AM EDT
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Looks Green to me. |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 9:51:30 AM EDT
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Looks green, but looks somewhat glossy green to me, and looks like a type D, but I could be wrong. I have been wrong many times before. Many.
There aren't many pics of early proto 607s, least that I have seen. The couple in The Black Rifle, and I think they are black stocks. I'll venture a guess that the proto's were type C. |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 10:10:02 AM EDT
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I think it's a real one he cleaned up.
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Posted: 1/28/2016 10:13:41 AM EDT
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Looks green, but looks somewhat glossy green to me, and looks like a type D, but I could be wrong. I have been wrong many times before. Many. There aren't many pics of early proto 607s, least that I have seen. The couple in The Black Rifle, and I think they are black stocks. I'll venture a guess that the proto's were type C. You'd probably be right about the proto's. In the promotional images from Colt, you can see the flats along the top edge of the stock that are unique to Type A,B,and C stocks. |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 11:07:27 AM EDT
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Looks green, but looks somewhat glossy green to me, and looks like a type D, but I could be wrong. I have been wrong many times before. Many. There aren't many pics of early proto 607s, least that I have seen. The couple in The Black Rifle, and I think they are black stocks. I'll venture a guess that the proto's were type C. I agree real proto's were probably made with type Cs. Maybe even the real ones were? But a type B 607 stock built on a 601 lower with the handguards made from the rear instead of the front would be the tits 
I have a hard time telling type C and D stocks apart from photos. I own two of each type and can tell them apart real easy in my hands but not online. |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 2:35:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Matt, your pics of your plate and three originals....the middle pic looks like the one that belongs to a fella named Robert, and the far right one looks like it's from the ATF "gun room". Who's is the left orig.? Also, your lower plate screw, what size is it? Edit for clarity: Geez, you'd think I was typing with my thumbs  I think the left was the ones 101ABN327 posted from the 45th ID arms room. The Stock is a B that was in real rough shape. I was playing with Roys patent design for fun. I figured if I was him tinkering in 1963-64 it may have been a B and looked something like the patent drawing. I guess its a pro-proto  In hindsight, I may not have done it. I was actually able to repair the hole and crack with fiberglass. I had no Idea the paint on those was so resilient. The hand guard was a lone right. Im going to cut the backend up and graft it with a black one then, paint it to look like its real also. |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 2:38:16 PM EDT
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Its a 1/4-20 with a 5/32 key. I think the head was around. The specs on the screw said.480-.531 on the head. I dint ease them, but I did take .040 off the circumference last night and they look almost perfect. I think the left was the ones 101ABN327 posted from the 45th ID arms room. The Stock is a B that was in real rough shape. I was playing with Roys patent design for fun. I figured if I was him tinkering in 1963-64 it may have been a B and looked something like the patent drawing. I guess its a pro-proto
In hindsight, I may not have done it. I was actually able to repair the hole and crack with fiberglass. I had no Idea the paint on those was so resilient. The handheld was a lone right. Im going to gut the backend up and graft it with a black one and pint it to look like its real also. http://<a href=https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1652/24646844446_93b568b736.jpg</a>IMG_3141 by Deer Hunter, on Flickr" /> http://<a href=https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1470/24305376939_8ee4cba78c.jpg</a>IMG_3139 by Deer Hunter, on Flickr" /> http://<a href=https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1573/24673078305_47f67541c3.jpg</a>IMG_3109 by Deer Hunter, on Flickr" /> http://<a href=https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1488/24377533780_217af899c8.jpg</a>IMG_3108 by Deer Hunter, on Flickr" /> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Matt, your pics of your plate and three originals....the middle pic looks like the one that belongs to a fella named Robert, and the far right one looks like it's from the ATF "gun room". Who's is the left orig.? Also, your lower plate screw, what size is it? I think the left was the ones 101ABN327 posted from the 45th ID arms room. The Stock is a B that was in real rough shape. I was playing with Roys patent design for fun. I figured if I was him tinkering in 1963-64 it may have been a B and looked something like the patent drawing. I guess its a pro-proto
In hindsight, I may not have done it. I was actually able to repair the hole and crack with fiberglass. I had no Idea the paint on those was so resilient. The handheld was a lone right. Im going to gut the backend up and graft it with a black one and pint it to look like its real also. http://<a href=https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1652/24646844446_93b568b736.jpg</a>IMG_3141 by Deer Hunter, on Flickr" /> http://<a href=https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1470/24305376939_8ee4cba78c.jpg</a>IMG_3139 by Deer Hunter, on Flickr" /> http://<a href=https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1573/24673078305_47f67541c3.jpg</a>IMG_3109 by Deer Hunter, on Flickr" /> http://<a href=https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1488/24377533780_217af899c8.jpg</a>IMG_3108 by Deer Hunter, on Flickr" /> That's hot 
I'm not even going to buy one of these and I'm getting excited
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Posted: 1/28/2016 2:39:27 PM EDT
[#16]
....luvin' it!
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Posted: 1/28/2016 3:15:40 PM EDT
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So, would these work with, say, and RRA Entry stock?
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Posted: 1/28/2016 3:45:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, would these work with, say, and RRA Entry stock? |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 4:49:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Edit for clarity: Geez, you'd think I was typing with my thumbs
Its a 1/4-20 with a 5/32 key. The specs on the screw said.480-.531 on the head. I didn't measure them, but I did take .040 off the circumference of the screw head last night and they look almost perfect. I think the left was the ones 101ABN327 posted from the 45th ID arms room. The Stock is a B that was in real rough shape. I was playing with Roys patent design for fun. I figured if I was him tinkering in 1963-64 it may have been a B and looked something like the patent drawing. I guess its a pro-proto
In hindsight, I may not have done it. I was actually able to repair the hole and crack with fiberglass. I had no Idea the paint on those was so resilient. The hand guard was a lone right. Im going to cut the backend up and graft it with a black one then, paint it to look like its real also. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Matt, your pics of your plate and three originals....the middle pic looks like the one that belongs to a fella named Robert, and the far right one looks like it's from the ATF "gun room". Who's is the left orig.? Also, your lower plate screw, what size is it?
Its a 1/4-20 with a 5/32 key. The specs on the screw said.480-.531 on the head. I didn't measure them, but I did take .040 off the circumference of the screw head last night and they look almost perfect. I think the left was the ones 101ABN327 posted from the 45th ID arms room. The Stock is a B that was in real rough shape. I was playing with Roys patent design for fun. I figured if I was him tinkering in 1963-64 it may have been a B and looked something like the patent drawing. I guess its a pro-proto
In hindsight, I may not have done it. I was actually able to repair the hole and crack with fiberglass. I had no Idea the paint on those was so resilient. The hand guard was a lone right. Im going to cut the backend up and graft it with a black one then, paint it to look like its real also. I too cut down a authentic green furniture for a 607 Build...just don't have a complete set of handguards. Accidentally cut down one buttstock because it was painted black....didn't notice it until I saw brown shavings.....ugh. Looks like some nice work. |
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Posted: 1/28/2016 5:01:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I too cut down a authentic green furniture for a 607 Build...just don't have a complete set of handguards. Accidentally cut down one buttstock because it was painted black....didn't notice it until I saw brown shavings.....ugh. Looks like some nice work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Matt, your pics of your plate and three originals....the middle pic looks like the one that belongs to a fella named Robert, and the far right one looks like it's from the ATF "gun room". Who's is the left orig.? Also, your lower plate screw, what size is it? Its a 1/4-20 with a 5/32 key. The specs on the screw said.480-.531 on the head. I didn't measure them, but I did take .040 off the circumference of the screw head last night and they look almost perfect. I think the left was the ones 101ABN327 posted from the 45th ID arms room. The Stock is a B that was in real rough shape. I was playing with Roys patent design for fun. I figured if I was him tinkering in 1963-64 it may have been a B and looked something like the patent drawing. I guess its a pro-proto In hindsight, I may not have done it. I was actually able to repair the hole and crack with fiberglass. I had no Idea the paint on those was so resilient. The hand guard was a lone right. Im going to cut the backend up and graft it with a black one then, paint it to look like its real also. I too cut down a authentic green furniture for a 607 Build...just don't have a complete set of handguards. Accidentally cut down one buttstock because it was painted black....didn't notice it until I saw brown shavings.....ugh. Looks like some nice work. That is horrible about the black one, I would really like to find a legitimate black set. I bet you were sick when you saw it. It was really hard for me to cut the right hand guard, It will go to good use though.
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Posted: 1/28/2016 5:17:22 PM EDT
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Edit for clarity: Geez, you'd think I was typing with my thumbs
Matt I thought maybe some fumes got to you  |
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Posted: 1/29/2016 11:11:34 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Edit for clarity: Geez, you'd think I was typing with my thumbs Matt I thought maybe some fumes got to you  , and didn't proof read; obviously giving myself too much credit...
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Posted: 1/29/2016 8:28:40 PM EDT
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I missed looking into this thread until now, and had only seen a few photos of these til recently, not really knowing what I was looking at.
Are these all spoken for already? If there are any left I am interested in getting one. Very impressive work and research to get it right. |
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Posted: 1/30/2016 7:56:14 PM EDT
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I'm definitely going to have to keep and eye on this, always loved the 607 stock but they were long gone by the time I heard of them. Be an absolute blast to get a hold of one and I am amazed at the talent around here.
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Posted: 1/30/2016 8:49:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I too cut down a authentic green furniture for a 607 Build...just don't have a complete set of handguards. Accidentally cut down one buttstock because it was painted black....didn't notice it until I saw brown shavings.....ugh. Looks like some nice work. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Matt, your pics of your plate and three originals....the middle pic looks like the one that belongs to a fella named Robert, and the far right one looks like it's from the ATF "gun room". Who's is the left orig.? Also, your lower plate screw, what size is it?
Its a 1/4-20 with a 5/32 key. The specs on the screw said.480-.531 on the head. I didn't measure them, but I did take .040 off the circumference of the screw head last night and they look almost perfect. I think the left was the ones 101ABN327 posted from the 45th ID arms room. The Stock is a B that was in real rough shape. I was playing with Roys patent design for fun. I figured if I was him tinkering in 1963-64 it may have been a B and looked something like the patent drawing. I guess its a pro-proto
In hindsight, I may not have done it. I was actually able to repair the hole and crack with fiberglass. I had no Idea the paint on those was so resilient. The hand guard was a lone right. Im going to cut the backend up and graft it with a black one then, paint it to look like its real also. I too cut down a authentic green furniture for a 607 Build...just don't have a complete set of handguards. Accidentally cut down one buttstock because it was painted black....didn't notice it until I saw brown shavings.....ugh. Looks like some nice work. But I bet it could be repaired and painted... :) live4now, Your 607 in the works is beauty. I have one in embryonic form, black furniture (my65pan). |
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Posted: 2/1/2016 4:51:18 PM EDT
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Here are some pics that show a few of the steps in making an end plate, a lever, and a lock rod assembly. There are many more operations in-between these stages, but these photos will allow you to see progress if you follow them left to right, top to bottom. In the side profile view you can see the rough cut, to grind/sand, to hand file/sand transition. I averaged an hour on each yesterday to cut out and shape one plate and that was before blasting.
I decided on a philips screw in the end of the lock rod to ease in access for full disassembly. I saved a little stock weight also to help even the balance of the rifle in the hand by taking as much as I could off the rod itself and moving it forward in the tube. This makes for a long reach with the allen wrench... In comes the screw driver I initially worried about a possible strength issue here. You will be happy to know it is stronger than the stock surrounding it... I felt like Kurt Cobain, but more emo afterwards Look at the difference the size of these plates. This is the most extreme example of this I have seen so far. Believe it or not this is the first lower that I have pinned . I did all my testing on a bolt on model platform originally and was so busy with the other operations I hadn't fooled with it yet. Very easy task. Like Hal143 said in his instructions on RBR, "Use a good sharp bit" I wold also suggest a good level vise. |
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Posted: 2/1/2016 4:58:54 PM EDT
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See the pretty little maidens all in a row.
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Posted: 2/1/2016 5:10:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: See the pretty little maidens all in a row. Just know when you hold her, she's second hand goods  |
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Posted: 2/1/2016 5:25:03 PM EDT
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Oh Boy!!! This is gunna be better than Christmas!
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Posted: 2/1/2016 6:19:43 PM EDT
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OMG OMG OMG
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Posted: 2/1/2016 7:19:48 PM EDT
[#31]
Looks like you are doing a terrific job. After 6 years, my pinned 607 stock is still solid as a rock.
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Posted: 2/1/2016 10:04:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like you are doing a terrific job. After 6 years, my pinned 607 stock is still solid as a rock. So funny because the first time I saw it a few years ago I was intimidated by the thought of pinning one. I wouldn't have thought in a million years I would have made one, let alone more than one. Funny how life works out. |
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Posted: 2/5/2016 11:22:30 PM EDT
[#33]
I love this thread! The struggle is real!
I may have to get one of these, I no longer have even one of the ones I made. :-( |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:17:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love this thread! The struggle is real! I may have to get one of these, I no longer have even one of the ones I made. :-( I now fully understand why everyone who has done these stopped.  |
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Posted: 2/6/2016 9:33:51 AM EDT
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Thanks Pan! I now fully understand why everyone who has done these stopped. I think I can help you out, send me an email
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I love this thread! The struggle is real! I may have to get one of these, I no longer have even one of the ones I made. :-( I now fully understand why everyone who has done these stopped. I think I can help you out, send me an email
It comes around full circle. The knowledge gets passed down generation after generation. 
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Posted: 2/6/2016 12:39:03 PM EDT
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Those are looking good!
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Posted: 2/7/2016 9:37:16 AM EDT
[#37]
https://youtu.be/I-zhGXehhIA
Made a jig to check the stock works perfect before pinning. Parallel is VERY important to prevent binding. |
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Posted: 2/7/2016 10:14:33 AM EDT
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Thats quality! Thanks for your attention to the details Matt. I know these will be worth the wait!
Thanks for not giving up too. I'm sure there were at least a dozen times you wanted to just throw everything in a box and walk away.  |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 3:03:59 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thats quality! Thanks for your attention to the details Matt. I know these will be worth the wait! Thanks for not giving up too. I'm sure there were at least a dozen times you wanted to just throw everything in a box and walk away. I finished a bolt on one last night too, I made the buffer tube on this one from a turned down oversized pistol tube. If you notice the rib on the tube behind the carbine lock plate is a little lower than on rifle tubes, this is why. I used Brownelles Aluma-Hyde on it and the plate. It seems like it is some pretty good stuff. The tube wasn't cured fully when I shot the video but it still didn't come off. Here is a video of it in operation |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 3:06:21 PM EDT
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That is absolutely fantastic work.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 3:29:52 PM EDT
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This thread has been so exciting to watch, but now, I'm wetting my pants.
Yes, thanks for not giving up
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Posted: 2/9/2016 3:44:02 PM EDT
[#42]
Congratulations man, job very well done!
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Posted: 2/9/2016 4:22:12 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread has been so exciting to watch, but now, I'm wetting my pants. Yes, thanks for not giving up  Thanks guys! |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 8:10:38 PM EDT
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Awesome work!!
The stock is the last piece I need to finish my 607 (not counting the SBR stamp). Do you plan on selling any of your extras? |
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Posted: 2/9/2016 9:21:59 PM EDT
[#45]
Cool Beans Matt.
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Posted: 2/9/2016 10:35:53 PM EDT
[#46]
Awesome work of art, This is my last piece of the 607 puzzzle let us know when they are for sale!
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Posted: 2/9/2016 11:03:11 PM EDT
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I love this board
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Posted: 2/10/2016 12:18:39 PM EDT
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Matt,
My 607 stock has just arrived. Couldn't be more excited if it was a Daisey Red Rider BB gun with a compass in the stock! Aces, Matt, Aces!!!  I want to thank you again for your sticktoitivness, perseverance, and attention to detail. This is truely a work of art and worth the wait. Second to none. I hope your future endeavors are as good as your 607 stocks have turned out. You'll need little advertising on these and I'll bet you'll sell out in record time. Now to get Victor to start accepting parts again! |
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Posted: 2/10/2016 1:10:28 PM EDT
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Looks like meticulous and accurate work, nice job. If I am understanding your process, did you fit every rear plate to its respective stock due to the variations of the Type D stock widths? Wow, I am thinking that was time consuming, I bet you are glad there is now light at the end of the tunnel. Congratulations.
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Posted: 2/10/2016 1:24:10 PM EDT
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Matt, My 607 stock has just arrived. Couldn't be more excited if it was a Daisey Red Rider BB gun with a compass in the stock!
Aces, Matt, Aces!!!
I want to thank you again for your sticktoitivness, perseverance, and attention to detail. This is truely a work of art and worth the wait. Second to none. I hope your future endeavors are as good as your 607 stocks have turned out.
You'll need little advertising on these and I'll bet you'll sell out in record time. Now to get Victor to start accepting parts again! Are these for sale yet?! |
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