User Panel
[#1]
|
|
Looking forward to NEXT year's Superbowl. This one sucked.
|
[Last Edit: 44Echo10]
[#2]
Originally Posted By BigRix:
According to the info in that link my barrel code is KO which is May 1977. Frame serial has a T prefix which was used from 1974 to 1977. Frame suffix is a V which indicates 2 3/4" 12 Ga. I'm gonna call this one a 1977 with an original barrel. It has a Choat mag extension. <a href="http://s576.photobucket.com/user/BigRix/media/Remington%20870P/008F681A-51A1-46C8-9CBD-175AC6FE2C22_zpsvut9e7an.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i576.photobucket.com/albums/ss208/BigRix/Remington%20870P/008F681A-51A1-46C8-9CBD-175AC6FE2C22_zpsvut9e7an.jpg</a> I think I want to return it to shock. Can anyone tell me what parts I need to change? I imagine the spring and the cap but is there anything else? Would the original cap have had a sping swivel like this? http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/Primary/874/874844.jpg View Quote That's an aftermarket cap, should work fine though. Remington original factory mag cap: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/909250.htm Spring retainer: http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/1319440A.htm Magazine spring http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/800100-01AA.htm ^^two parts you need in addition to whichever mag cap you decide to use Front swivel for factory mag cap: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/327654/uncle-mikes-quick-detachable-sling-swivel-set-pump-semi-automatic-shotguns-requires-cap-modification-except-browning-2000-winchester-1400-ithaca-37-savage-30-sears-21-stevens-pump-1-black |
|
|
[#3]
44Echo10 - thanks for posting the link to the sling swivel, I need one myself for my cheap CHinese 870 clone. (Hawk 982) Yeah I know, I know, but Cerberus gets the parts for 870s now from the same factory in China and charges 2X what this cost. ($200 SHIPPED.) I'm frankly pretty impressed by the damn thing, and have read quite abit about the metallurgy and comparison to new Remingtons. Now the older Remingtons are a completely different matter...well worth the extra money. For a truck gun though, the Hawk works.
|
|
Looking forward to NEXT year's Superbowl. This one sucked.
|
[#4]
Originally Posted By Morg308:
44Echo10 - thanks for posting the link to the sling swivel, I need one myself for my cheap CHinese 870 clone. (Hawk 982) Yeah I know, I know, but Cerberus gets the parts for 870s now from the same factory in China and charges 2X what this cost. ($200 SHIPPED.) I'm frankly pretty impressed by the damn thing, and have read quite abit about the metallurgy and comparison to new Remingtons. Now the older Remingtons are a completely different matter...well worth the extra money. For a truck gun though, the Hawk works. View Quote The three headed hound from hell owns them too. I won't hold it against you for trying to save a buck, sadly, a damn dollar is hard to come by these days. |
|
|
[#5]
Originally Posted By 44Echo10:
The three headed hound from hell owns them too. I won't hold it against you for trying to save a buck, sadly, a damn dollar is hard to come by these days. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 44Echo10:
Originally Posted By Morg308:
44Echo10 - thanks for posting the link to the sling swivel, I need one myself for my cheap CHinese 870 clone. (Hawk 982) Yeah I know, I know, but Cerberus gets the parts for 870s now from the same factory in China and charges 2X what this cost. ($200 SHIPPED.) I'm frankly pretty impressed by the damn thing, and have read quite abit about the metallurgy and comparison to new Remingtons. Now the older Remingtons are a completely different matter...well worth the extra money. For a truck gun though, the Hawk works. The three headed hound from hell owns them too. I won't hold it against you for trying to save a buck, sadly, a damn dollar is hard to come by these days. Yeah, I hate giving that company my money. I bought a Hogue synthetic stock set for it, only to find when I went to pull the original synthetic furniture off that it was MUCH stouter and better designed than the Hogue stuff, which was absolutely flimsy in comparison. The thickness of the stock reminds me of the Sully stock, and it has threaded brass inserts where the Hogue just uses screws into the plastic. I was totally shocked, but the Chinese furniture is way nicer. Most 870 parts other than the barrel assy will work on this thing. I feel a little like a traitor, but why would I support Cerborus to get the same gun for $200 more? |
|
Looking forward to NEXT year's Superbowl. This one sucked.
|
[#6]
Check out Grov-Tec for USA made slings and swivels. It's the original Uncle Mike's crew.
|
|
|
[Last Edit: 44Echo10]
[#7]
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1XH77aYuBI2MWhWbDlTUkNHN2s/edit?pli=1
TM 9-285 Shotguns, All Types Sept 21, 1942 |
|
|
[#8]
Originally Posted By 44Echo10:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1XH77aYuBI2MWhWbDlTUkNHN2s/edit?pli=1 View Quote Awesome!! I need to print that out. |
|
|
[#9]
Good technical manual, printed it off, very good info.
|
|
|
[#10]
There is a beautiful condition Ithaca 37 Police Special 5rd slam fire parkerized no game scene oil finished walnut shotgun here in town here in Colo Spgs for $500, IM me for its location, not mine, not affiliated with shop selling it.
|
|
"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones...." Zechariah 9:15
|
[#11]
So, I just lucked into a Stevens 77d yesterday from a relative. I was hoping to get the 77e buttstock, but I can't find one anywhere. The gun I got appears to have the wrong buttstock anyways as it does not sit flush with the receiver. Maybe 1/4-1/3'' off from the receiver. I don't guess anyone has a standard or a 77e buttstock laying around they'd be willing to sell?
|
|
|
[#12]
OK, so I'm giving in and want to build a retro shotty. Going to go for a clone USMC or USAF 870.
Am I correct in thinking I need to get my hands on an older 2 3/4 choke 870 Wingmaster to start with? Non checked forend and a non rubber butt pad stock? |
|
|
[Last Edit: Shadow4Golf]
[#13]
Saw these come up for sale recently
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/pair-of-savage-military-69r-h-12-gauge-shotguns-s6452/ |
|
Proud Member of R------'- M------, AKA Team Ranstad...The Fantastic Bastards
19Delta: When you need complete destruction with maximum collateral damage, accept no substitutes! |
[Last Edit: coctailer]
[#14]
Originally Posted By Shadow4Golf:
Saw these come up for sale recently http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/pair-of-savage-military-69r-h-12-gauge-shotguns-s6452/ View Quote That's pretty sweet. made it hot |
|
|
[#15]
Originally Posted By Kaiserman: OK, so I'm giving in and want to build a retro shotty. Going to go for a clone USMC or USAF 870. Am I correct in thinking I need to get my hands on an older 2 3/4 choke 870 Wingmaster to start with? Non checked for end and a non rubber butt pad stock? View Quote |
|
|
[Last Edit: coctailer]
[#16]
View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By coctailer:
Originally Posted By Shadow4Golf:
Saw these come up for sale recently http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/pair-of-savage-military-69r-h-12-gauge-shotguns-s6452/ That's pretty sweet. made it hot FIFY |
|
Proud Member of R------'- M------, AKA Team Ranstad...The Fantastic Bastards
19Delta: When you need complete destruction with maximum collateral damage, accept no substitutes! |
[#17]
Originally Posted By bradystribling16:
So, I just lucked into a Stevens 77d yesterday from a relative. I was hoping to get the 77e buttstock, but I can't find one anywhere. The gun I got appears to have the wrong buttstock anyways as it does not sit flush with the receiver. Maybe 1/4-1/3'' off from the receiver. I don't guess anyone has a standard or a 77e buttstock laying around they'd be willing to sell? View Quote Just spotted one on eBay this morning. Not mine or anyone I know. Search for Stevens 77E or item # 111469295971 |
|
|
[#18]
Yes a Wingmaster is correct. 21 inch barrel I believe for the USMC MK21, and 20 inch for the USAF 870. The barrels are very hard to find, and the adapters are almost impossible, especially the MK21. Good luck! View Quote Thanks. I found a 1959 870 2 3/4 28" mod barrel, non rubber pad stock for $355. That should be a good start after the barrel gets chopped, right? Is it a sin to cut down a 59 870? |
|
|
[Last Edit: coldbore141]
[#19]
|
|
"I guess I don't so much mind being old, as I mind being fat and old."
Benjamin Franklin |
[#20]
|
|
"I guess I don't so much mind being old, as I mind being fat and old."
Benjamin Franklin |
[#21]
Originally Posted By coldbore141:
His & Hers Hotel security pack http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj420/quiktrigger/20140925_142612_zps6a0ee714.jpg http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj420/quiktrigger/20140925_143234_zps0506b89c.jpg View Quote NICE! Love the 520 humpbacks. |
|
ETA for the book being available on Amazon : October 1st.
|
[Last Edit: cherenkov]
[#22]
|
|
|
[#23]
Originally Posted By cherenkov:
My 520 humpback is a faux trench - Now I want one with a plain barrel like that! ETA is that your M35A2 in your avatar? I had three I had to sell all for kids college! http://<a href=http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a607/X-ray6/DSCN2116_zpsf9994e7c.jpg</a>" /> View Quote Nice looking group of Stevens shotties. I used to love driving the deuce and a half, either the M35A2 or the 109, would always forget the three to four shift pattern was funky and skip fourth and go to fifth. They didn't care, never missed a beat. |
|
|
[#24]
Well I bought what I think is a late 60's or early 70's 870 Wingmaster with a 20" barrel, fixed cylinder choke and bead sights tonight at a local auction for $175. can't pick it up until next week. Going to be a USMC MKII clone. Now I'm on the hunt for the elusive bayo lug adapter.
|
|
|
[Last Edit: 44Echo10]
[#25]
Originally Posted By Kaiserman:
Well I bought what I think is a late 60's or early 70's 870 Wingmaster with a 20" barrel, fixed cylinder choke and bead sights tonight at a local auction for $175. can't pick it up until next week. Going to be a USMC MKII clone. Now I'm on the hunt for the elusive bayo lug adapter. View Quote You'll likely score a bag of rocking horse poop or rope a skittles shitting unicorn first, but then I'm a pessimist. I truly wish you the best in your endeavor. There was a rumor in the shotgun forum of an upcoming repro a few years back, nothing ever came of it. I was wanting one myself. |
|
|
[#26]
Well that was quick I found one!
Now to just sell off that extra kidney to afford it.... 870 bayonet adapter |
|
|
[Last Edit: 44Echo10]
[#27]
Originally Posted By Kaiserman:
Well that was quick I found one! Now to just sell off that extra kidney to afford it.... 870 bayonet adapter View Quote Yeah, the prices suck when you do find one. I hope you get one, Bro. |
|
|
[#28]
|
|
|
[#29]
Pic if it.
" /> |
|
|
[#30]
Originally Posted By Kaiserman:
Pic if it. http://<a href=http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/CRNJG/102_zps75d506df.jpg</a>" /> View Quote That does not suck. Looks cut down, but who cares? I like it! |
|
ETA for the book being available on Amazon : October 1st.
|
[#31]
Originally Posted By Morg308:
That does not suck. Looks cut down, but who cares? I like it! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Morg308:
Originally Posted By Kaiserman:
Pic if it. http://<a href=http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/CRNJG/102_zps75d506df.jpg</a>" /> That does not suck. Looks cut down, but who cares? I like it! It didn't look cut down in person, but with as old as it is who knows? Can't really see it in the pic, but the bead sight is still there. There where also two mid 70's 18.5" 870's there as well. Should have bought one of those. They went for $175 each. |
|
|
[Last Edit: 44Echo10]
[#32]
Originally Posted By Kaiserman:
Pic if it. http://<a href=http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/CRNJG/102_zps75d506df.jpg</a>" /> View Quote Very nice, K-man |
|
|
[#33]
|
|
|
[#35]
Looks like a nice Retro ride. Completely compatible with retro ARs and shotguns.
I miss my M35A2 and M109 Deuces - but kids gotta go to college and i had to sacrifice one hobby. Call me crazy, but I really miss it when I smell a diesel truck go by my car in traffic! Originally Posted By coldbore141:
Sorry to get off Subject, Yes the Deuce is mine, yes the 1919 is real. These pics were taken at the local Memorial Day Parade. The fellow in the pic is a mentor, friend (Marine Corp Vietnam Vet) and a just all around great guy. (some of you probably know (of) him) http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj420/quiktrigger/20140526_093737_zps407f766a.jpg http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj420/quiktrigger/20140522_181342_zpsba43f04b.jpg Generally Speaking, If I'm not working I am shooting, Trailing and some times trailing to get to a better place to shoot. So the ATV's I have serve purpose... My Camel's: M53A2, Jeep Wrangler on 33's, RZR900S, HUV4213, and of coarse the F-150, Barring Cliffs and extreme gorges I can get there and make the shot... View Quote |
|
|
[Last Edit: RebelRouser]
[#36]
Originally Posted By Kaiserman:
Well that was quick I found one! Now to just sell off that extra kidney to afford it.... 870 bayonet adapter View Quote That's a 1st Gen one piece bayonet adapter. Try finding the Gen 2 two piece. If you took Remington 870 Mil/LE armours course, you could actually buy them for $10. When Freedom Group bought Remington anything that wasn't in the current catalog got thrown out including the bayonet adapters. |
|
|
[#37]
I was able to pick the shotgun up today. Barrel dates to 12/70. It was probably a police gun. It's got a sticker under the recoil pad marking it as property of the town of Boylston MA. Barrel looks un-cut. I can still see milling marks. Other than some bluing loss on the barrel and slide it's pretty nice.
|
|
|
[#38]
Originally Posted By stevejness:
Remington engineers firing the model 7188. I saw this posted on another forum, so don't know any other info. http://i.imgur.com/o7zxM7F.jpg View Quote The guy demonstrating it is dressed like Elmer Fudd! "Take that, you wascally wabbitt!" |
|
|
[#39]
Funny, everything in that photo dates it except the gun. Guns have such a long useful, style and market lifespan, they don't look as dated as other items.
I like the haircuts, You could set your watch to those guys haircuts! Originally Posted By BigSkyBound:
The guy demonstrating it is dressed like Elmer Fudd! "Take that, you wascally wabbitt!" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BigSkyBound:
Originally Posted By stevejness:
Remington engineers firing the model 7188. I saw this posted on another forum, so don't know any other info. http://i.imgur.com/o7zxM7F.jpg The guy demonstrating it is dressed like Elmer Fudd! "Take that, you wascally wabbitt!" |
|
|
[#40]
Do any of you guys know (or have a picture showing) what the correct sling swivel is for the buttstock of a military Remington 870?
Thanks! |
|
|
[Last Edit: stevejness]
[#41]
|
|
|
[#42]
Originally Posted By stevejness:
It is the same swivel that came on some of the 40x rifles, also same as on the M40. They aren't too hard to find yet. http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae357/ohearchai/M40swivel004.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stevejness:
Originally Posted By jntmjt1:
Do any of you guys know (or have a picture showing) what the correct sling swivel is for the buttstock of a military Remington 870? Thanks! It is the same swivel that came on some of the 40x rifles, also same as on the M40. They aren't too hard to find yet. http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae357/ohearchai/M40swivel004.jpg Thanks very much. If you have a source for one of these swivels, please let me know. Thank you! John Thomas |
|
|
[#43]
Originally Posted By jntmjt1:
Thanks very much. If you have a source for one of these swivels, please let me know. Thank you! John Thomas View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jntmjt1:
Originally Posted By stevejness:
Originally Posted By jntmjt1:
Do any of you guys know (or have a picture showing) what the correct sling swivel is for the buttstock of a military Remington 870? Thanks! It is the same swivel that came on some of the 40x rifles, also same as on the M40. They aren't too hard to find yet. http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae357/ohearchai/M40swivel004.jpg Thanks very much. If you have a source for one of these swivels, please let me know. Thank you! John Thomas Back when I was looking, they would show up on ebay or gunbroker pretty regularly. That's the only place I've seen them. |
|
|
[#44]
Originally Posted By jntmjt1:
If you have a source for one of these swivels, please let me know. View Quote Numrich's has them under Remington 513T's. SWIVEL |
|
|
[#46]
Yeah - I need a couple too dang it!
|
|
ETA for the book being available on Amazon : October 10th. Almost done!
|
[#47]
Im looking for one as well. Ok 2 of them.
|
|
|
[#48]
45 years and never seen such a swivel.
|
|
|
[#50]
Originally Posted By Kaiserman:
Here is my progress so far. Got the old varnish stripped off and have rubbed several coats of BLO onto the furniture. The stock came out beautifully. The end of the stock (under the recoil pad) is marked with a metal adhesive tag with "Property of the Town of Bolyston MA" on it. The sling swivel is the correct swivel that would have been shipped with the bayonet adapter kit from Remington. I guess the barrel has been cut. Measured with a cleaning rod down to the closed bolt I got 20 1/8". I can see concentric rings on the end of the barrel, like it was done on a mill or lathe, so maybe factory? I called Remington with the serial number and all they could tell me is that is was made in 1970 and is for a 12g. Since the barrel is dated 1970 they are probably original to each other. The adapter is an NOS AF/NAVY/PD model, and an NOS? seat belt sling completes the look. I may have it parked in the future. If I do I'll have the extra little bit of barrel removed at the same time. <a href="http://s9.photobucket.com/user/CRNJG/media/Shotguns/P1011360_zps19306dc3.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/CRNJG/Shotguns/P1011360_zps19306dc3.jpg</a> <a href="http://s9.photobucket.com/user/CRNJG/media/Shotguns/P1011361_zps2b3f3762.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/CRNJG/Shotguns/P1011361_zps2b3f3762.jpg</a> <a href="http://s9.photobucket.com/user/CRNJG/media/Shotguns/P1011362_zps22ec1cd5.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/CRNJG/Shotguns/P1011362_zps22ec1cd5.jpg</a> <a href="http://s9.photobucket.com/user/CRNJG/media/Shotguns/P1011363_zps4c278d6a.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/CRNJG/Shotguns/P1011363_zps4c278d6a.jpg</a> <a href="http://s9.photobucket.com/user/CRNJG/media/Shotguns/P1011364_zpsa08947de.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/CRNJG/Shotguns/P1011364_zpsa08947de.jpg</a> View Quote Awesome!! Looks great. Congrats on locating the bayo adapter. After seeing the Jeep in the background, I now understand the moniker Kaiserman....unless your surname is Kaiser. Any more pics of the Jeep. We like old stuff around here. |
|
|
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.