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Link Posted: 8/27/2005 12:05:43 PM EDT
[#1]

Originally Posted By Stickman:

Originally Posted By Ekie:

Originally Posted By Stickman:
img97.imageshack.us/img97/7913/greengunandfirends0266ke.jpg


Oops, thats not retro, thats just old.....



Got any more pictures of that 601?



Yes.



Any high res?  Can you E-mail them to me?

[email protected]
Link Posted: 8/27/2005 12:44:22 PM EDT
[#2]
IM sent.
Link Posted: 8/27/2005 3:00:04 PM EDT
[#3]

Originally Posted By Thatguy96:

Originally Posted By ch139:
Another GUU pic found floating around the net. This one appears to have an old lower.

photos.templarfirearms.com/albums/userpics/10001/normal_usaf_secu.jpg</a>



That's a GAU-5/P not a GUU-5/P.  The GAU-5/P was a rebarrel of previous GAU-5/A carbines with a 14.5" A1 barrel, while the GUU-5/Ps have either an M4 profile 14.5" barrel or a complete flat top M4 upper.


Hmmm.

I had not known that the GUU-5P came with a complete M4 upper.

I have seen them with the old M16 style upper and an M4 barrel though.





I need to get some better pics of these guys.

I have seen several Air Force weapons with the 14.5-inch lightweight barrel as in the above pic that are marked GUU-5P. Have not seen one marked GAU-5P yet.












Only pic I have of the last GUU as my camera batteries
were dying, the GUU-5P is on the far right

Link Posted: 8/27/2005 3:56:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Soon, I will be able to show you mine!
Link Posted: 8/27/2005 6:22:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Got the A1 upper installed last night. I'm getting closer!







Link Posted: 8/27/2005 9:11:29 PM EDT
[#6]

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Got the A1 upper installed last night. I'm getting closer!



coloradoshooting.org/ipw-web/gallery/albums/bbadmin-Album-1/cmt_car_a1_20_diag.sized.jpg






A 653 clone, I like.
Link Posted: 8/27/2005 9:27:13 PM EDT
[#7]

Originally Posted By uxb:
Some 607 goodness:

www.fototime.com/0FCC75AD0D66D95/standard.jpg

www.fototime.com/F413F9216B898CD/standard.jpg

And the 177 for good measure:

www.fototime.com/ACD3CBCF449514D/standard.jpg





I never get tired of seeing those 607's!
Link Posted: 8/27/2005 10:08:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot] [#8]

Originally Posted By Ekie:

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Got the A1 upper installed last night. I'm getting closer!



coloradoshooting.org/ipw-web/gallery/albums/bbadmin-Album-1/cmt_car_a1_20_diag.sized.jpg






A 653 clone, I like.





Is that what it is? Who'da known? It didn't start out to be this way... but this way it is. Guess I need to find a picture of a real 653 to go with it.

So that makes it a GAU-5/P?



Other AF Nomenclature Issues:
- More agreed upon specifics for the following designations (and I might be putting ones in this list which don't exist, so it would be helpful to point that out too): XM177, GAU-5, GAU-5A, GAU-5A/A, GAU-5A/B, GAU-5P See below
So far, this is what we have:
XM177: Colt Model 610
GAU-5/A: Colt Model 610
GAU-5/A/A: Either Colt Model 630 or 649
GAU-5/A/B: Either Colt Model 629 or 630
GAU-5/P: Either Colt 653 and/or rebuilds of previous GAU-5s to similar standard




Link Posted: 8/27/2005 10:25:34 PM EDT
[#9]

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Got the A1 upper installed last night. I'm getting closer!
coloradoshooting.org/ipw-web/gallery/albums/bbadmin-Album-1/cmt_car_a1_20_diag.sized.jpg




Looking sweet Lance!

I've finally got my A1 grip on the way!
Link Posted: 8/27/2005 10:50:38 PM EDT
[#10]

Originally Posted By Lancelot:


Is that what it is? Who'da known? It didn't start out to be this way... but this way it is. Guess I need to find a picture of a real 653 to go with it.




Well kinda, if you swapped the delta ring, buttstock, castle nut, and the barrel is a bit long.  But, that what it reminds me of.
Link Posted: 8/27/2005 11:22:36 PM EDT
[#11]

Originally Posted By QUIB:

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Got the A1 upper installed last night. I'm getting closer!
coloradoshooting.org/ipw-web/gallery/albums/bbadmin-Album-1/cmt_car_a1_20_diag.sized.jpg




Looking sweet Lance!

I've finally got my A1 grip on the way!




Cool. Now if Bumblebee_Bob would just get his stock replaced, there'd be three variations up and running in Colorado.


Link Posted: 8/29/2005 3:20:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lancelot] [#12]
Somebody just sent me this. Add the brass deflector and its a Candaian C8. (but I can't get the img tags to work.

world.guns.ru/assault/as44-e.htm

http://world.guns.ru/assault/c8.jpg



ETA: Try this



Link Posted: 8/29/2005 9:19:40 PM EDT
[#13]
If you can get past the language barrier, this site has some excellent pics!

www.gun-world.net/old/USA/M16/CAR/xm177.htm
Link Posted: 8/29/2005 9:49:21 PM EDT
[#14]

Originally Posted By QUIB:
If you can get past the language barrier, this site has some excellent pics!

www.gun-world.net/old/USA/M16/CAR/xm177.htm


That Vietnamese boy isn't demonstrating proper finger placement!

Those are some nice pics though!
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 10:48:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Couch-Commando] [#15]

Originally Posted By uxb:
You need the triangular front handguard cap.  The handguard price includes front and rear handguard caps (you just need to specify barrel diameter to get the correct triangular front cap) and right and left handguards.

The gas tube and FSB will need to be removed, followed by the round front handguard cap.  While the FSB is off, slip on the rear handguard cap. Replace the round front handguard cap with the triangular one provided in the kit, reassemble FSB and gas tube, install handguards, and you're good to go...




Did the slab side XM607 have a chrome bolt and carrier?
Link Posted: 9/5/2005 11:38:50 PM EDT
[#16]

Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:

Originally Posted By uxb:
You need the triangular front handguard cap.  The handguard price includes front and rear handguard caps (you just need to specify barrel diameter to get the correct triangular front cap) and right and left handguards.

The gas tube and FSB will need to be removed, followed by the round front handguard cap.  While the FSB is off, slip on the rear handguard cap. Replace the round front handguard cap with the triangular one provided in the kit, reassemble FSB and gas tube, install handguards, and you're good to go...

www.fototime.com/2C3F2A4D55DCC10/standard.jpg



Did the slab side XM607 have a chrome bolt and carrier?



All 607s have a chrome carrier as they we made prior to the switch to the transitional carrier.

Transitional carrier is a parked carrier, chrome key, parked solid firing pin retainer, chrome bolt.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 12:30:54 AM EDT
[#17]

Originally Posted By llanero:
I just got back from Ft. Lewis, where I was issued a rifle.  A strange rifle, with strange sights, handguards, forward assist and no brass deflector on the upper reciever.  Nowhere on the rifle was AR15 stamped.  No "burst", just "semi" and "auto".  Yesirreee, this was a genuine M16A1, made by Hydra-Matic (G.M. Corp) serial # 3359642.  There wasn't a bit of finish left on the lower, but she didn't hiccup once during the two weeks of field training I had with her.

We were told we didn't have to clean them which astounded me--no weapons cleaning?!?  My joy soon turned bittersweet when I was told the reason:  All these old warhorses (except for the M60s) were headed for the smelterhr


Just got back from LDAC, huh?

They are sending them to the smelter?  That sucks.  I dunno bout yours, but my A1 hiccuped a bit out there, could have been the blank adapter...
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 11:18:56 AM EDT
[#18]

Link Posted: 9/6/2005 11:56:24 AM EDT
[#19]
Derek,

Where did you get that front takedown pin?
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 1:08:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 2:47:44 PM EDT
[#21]


Link Posted: 9/6/2005 3:56:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bumblebee_Bob] [#22]

Originally Posted By Lancelot:

Originally Posted By QUIB:

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Got the A1 upper installed last night. I'm getting closer!
coloradoshooting.org/ipw-web/gallery/albums/bbadmin-Album-1/cmt_car_a1_20_diag.sized.jpg




Looking sweet Lance!

I've finally got my A1 grip on the way!




Cool. Now if Bumblebee_Bob would just get his stock replaced, there'd be three variations up and running in Colorado.





Yeah, yeah. I get the hint. Picture inbound.

Heck, there's a pic of it half way down pg 4!

But here it is alone:



Now sporting the CMT CAR stock. Folks, this is a first rate product! Purchase with confidence.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 4:35:44 PM EDT
[#23]
Let's not let this thread die!! I need my retro fix every day...
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 6:09:04 PM EDT
[#24]
Time for a Colorado Retro shoot.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 6:29:51 PM EDT
[#25]
So many retro choices! So few funds.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 6:46:25 PM EDT
[#26]

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Time for a Colorado Retro shoot.



Count me in if it's during the week!
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:14:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blanco_Diablo] [#27]
How bout you Coloradoians come down and have a Retro Shoot with us Floridians??
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:18:02 PM EDT
[#28]

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
How bout you Coloradoians come down and have a Retro Shoot with us Floridians??



 What........and get washed out to sea in the next hurricane!    
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:47:03 PM EDT
[#29]

Originally Posted By QUIB:

Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo:
How bout you Coloradoians come down and have a Retro Shoot with us Floridians??



 What........and get washed out to sea in the next hurricane!    


Lol not where I live...30 miles west of Jax. Most we get usually is rain and wind...unless of course a 'cane came right across us
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:48:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blanco_Diablo] [#30]
whoops...sorry for the dupe...
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 7:53:58 PM EDT
[#31]

Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:



Now sporting the CMT CAR stock. Folks, this is a first rate product! Purchase with confidence.

  that's the same configuration I've been thinking about!  Is that a 16'' barrel with a slip over flash hider or is that a perm attached one? How good does it shoot?  How much does it weigh?
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 9:11:38 PM EDT
[#32]

Originally Posted By gus:


photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=35767




That's fine looking gus. I've got one on the way, day 120.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 9:30:26 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm surprised. 6 pages of "retro rifle pictures" and not one of Al Gore in VN looking down the barrel of his rifle? Someone here must have one.
Link Posted: 9/6/2005 9:52:54 PM EDT
[#34]

Originally Posted By MOLON_LABE:
I'm surprised. 6 pages of "retro rifle pictures" and not one of Al Gore in VN looking down the barrel of his rifle? Someone here must have one.


Al Gore was in Vietnam?? I didn't know that . Thought it was just Kerry...

I'd like to see a pic of Kerry shooting an M16A1...that'd be funny to see.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 1:34:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KGLaw] [#35]


In all fairness to Gore, no magazine and looking at the release, I believe his bolt is locked back.

[ETA] And his selector is off safe, and he's still looking down the bore of a firearm....  
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 6:39:19 AM EDT
[#36]

Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:

Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/titan68/IMG00013resized.jpg

Now sporting the CMT CAR stock. Folks, this is a first rate product! Purchase with confidence.

  that's the same configuration I've been thinking about!  Is that a 16'' barrel with a slip over flash hider or is that a perm attached one? How good does it shoot?  How much does it weigh?





He's previously posted on my site that it is the slip over one. Its a 16" lightweight barrel under there. I've thought about doing that myslef, but I like the feel and balance of my rifle so well the way it is, I hate to screw with it.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 8:05:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: selfishselfless] [#37]
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 10:19:11 AM EDT
[#38]


Originally Posted By Lancelot:

Originally Posted By Couch-Commando:

Originally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:

img.photobucket.com/albums/v191/titan68/IMG00013resized.jpg

Now sporting the CMT CAR stock. Folks, this is a first rate product! Purchase with confidence.

  that's the same configuration I've been thinking about!  Is that a 16'' barrel with a slip over flash hider or is that a perm attached one? How good does it shoot?  How much does it weigh?





He's previously posted on my site that it is the slip over one. Its a 16" lightweight barrel under there. I've thought about doing that myself, but I like the feel and balance of my rifle so well the way it is, I hate to screw with it.



Thanks boss.

It's a Bushmaster 16" lightweight barrel with a Bushmaster slipover flash suppressor. Which is one big chunk of steel. I don't have any scales for that weight range but it's rather heavy. Despite that the rifle balances at about the handguard slip ring. With an A1/A2/Phantom flash suppressor the rifle balances more at the pivot pin. So it's not too bad, but the rifle is a touch more "lively" handling with the smaller f/s's.

I've not really taken the time to put this thing on paper other than the initial 25yd sight in. But I don't have any problems making cans dance at any reasonable range with it.

Total weight? Again, no resonable scale, only rather crappy bathroom scales. But I'm thinking it's around 5½ lbs.

So go ahead and build one. You'll love it!!!!!  And if you don't, there's something wrong with ya'.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 9:56:46 PM EDT
[#39]
I sure hope this thread grows when the ASA lowers come out shortly.  I can't wait!
Link Posted: 9/9/2005 11:10:06 AM EDT
[#40]

Originally Posted By QUIB:

Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Time for a Colorado Retro shoot.



Count me in if it's during the week!



Count me out if it is!

But we do need to do a state wide shoot.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 11:40:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Desperado] [#41]

Originally Posted By Stickman:
Derek,
Where did you get that front takedown pin?


Probably Bushmaster. That's where I got mine.
www.bushmaster.com/shopping/lowers/oak-01.asp
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 12:13:41 PM EDT
[#42]

Originally Posted By Desperado:

Originally Posted By Stickman:
Derek,
Where did you get that front takedown pin?


Probably Bushmaster. That's where I got mine.
www.bushmaster.com/shopping/lowers/oak-01.asp





Ahhh, thankyou sir, it certainly gives a much cleaner look.
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 12:17:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 1:21:01 PM EDT
[#44]
Nice slabside Stick.

Max
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 1:52:22 PM EDT
[#45]

Originally Posted By selfishselfless:
To those who are interested in the historical nature of these firearms, there is a write up and table listing the models you speak about with their names and configuration. While the table needs updating, it has been built based on the surrounding knowledge and history of these firearms.

Sammy
Total Silence Inc


An excellent source to be sure, with a good visual aid.  Also, the wikipedia entry for Colt Commando has good information as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Commando
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 3:10:07 PM EDT
[#46]
Another nice piece of work, Stickman.

You get a "Plus One" for the cool IDF rig as well.  Is there a source available for them in the US?
Link Posted: 9/10/2005 8:39:07 PM EDT
[#47]

Originally Posted By uxb:
Another nice piece of work, Stickman.

You get a "Plus One" for the cool IDF rig as well.  Is there a source available for them in the US?




Try www.assaultvests.com



Link Posted: 9/11/2005 10:39:42 AM EDT
[#48]

Originally Posted By Stickman:
Derek,

Where did you get that front takedown pin?



Bushmaster sells 'em.
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 12:05:41 PM EDT
[#49]
HEY MODERATOR!!!!

HOW ABOUT MAKING THIS A STICKY!!!!
Link Posted: 9/11/2005 12:29:48 PM EDT
[#50]

Originally Posted By Hunterex:
www.tincher.to/images/gore_nam.jpg

In all fairness to Gore, no magazine and looking at the release, I believe his bolt is locked back.

[ETA] And his selector is off safe, and he's still looking down the bore of a firearm....  



I'm sure not a Gore supporter by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd give him a little break on this. It appears to me anyway that he's not actually looking down the barrel, but he's jacking around with the sling and front swivel. I myself don't like having the business end of a barrel pointed anywhere close to me even when I know the firearm is unloaded, though.  Here's my "retro". A1 upper from CDNN, SP1 bolt and carrier that I had laying around and Colt Match Target lower, not quite gray, but not as dark of finish as a lot of them I've seen. It's close enough I'm not going to mess with it.

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