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Posted: 9/16/2022 9:42:16 AM EDT
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 New Ruger SFAR Rifle: The Smallest .308 AR? |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 10:07:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers: I picked up my 16" SFAR from my FFL a couple of hours ago. Weighing it on my cheapo bathroom scale with an unloaded mag, no sling, and a Monstrum Tactical Spectre 1-6 LPVO on it, it weighs 8.6 lbs. Monstrum's website says the optic and mount weigh 17 oz, the mag is supposed to weigh 7.2 oz and the rifle 6.8 pounds. So that about adds right up at 8.4 lbs from published specs. To me that falls within margin of error of the shit scale. ETA: I weighed it on a better scale and in the above configuration it weighs exactly 8.5 pounds. Where'd you pick it up? I've been checking the webs for anything local and not having any luck. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:14:32 PM EDT
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I'm waiting to see pictures of somebody throwing an AR-15 upper receiver on this bad boy to see how they match up.
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:18:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dissident: Where'd you pick it up? I've been checking the webs for anything local and not having any luck. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dissident: Originally Posted By luv_the_huskers: I picked up my 16" SFAR from my FFL a couple of hours ago. Weighing it on my cheapo bathroom scale with an unloaded mag, no sling, and a Monstrum Tactical Spectre 1-6 LPVO on it, it weighs 8.6 lbs. Monstrum's website says the optic and mount weigh 17 oz, the mag is supposed to weigh 7.2 oz and the rifle 6.8 pounds. So that about adds right up at 8.4 lbs from published specs. To me that falls within margin of error of the shit scale. ETA: I weighed it on a better scale and in the above configuration it weighs exactly 8.5 pounds. Where'd you pick it up? I've been checking the webs for anything local and not having any luck. SHTF Tactical online |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:38:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hellion-Productions]
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Edit: dupe review vid.
Sorry. Best, JBR |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 3:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Looks like it blows out if there's significant overpressure. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By ctfish15: Originally Posted By Ky_Bob: Originally Posted By ctfish15: Aha, found it. https://www.sigtalk.com/threads/716i-tread-barrel-screw.427532/ It's the sig tread 716i, "backs up the extractor in case of a catastrophic failure" . So it's not a vent. https://www.sigtalk.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.sigtalk.com/attachments/th-jpeg.472846/ "backs up the extractor in case of a catastrophic failure How does it accomplish this? How does it back it up? Dunno. More unicorn features. Looks like it blows out if there's significant overpressure. Never heard of an extractor being used to manage overpressure.… I think it’s so you can stick something in there to remove a stuck case. But I’m guessing and I’ve been wrong a bunch of times. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 4:01:16 PM EDT
[#7]
 Attached FileI just finished building this Aero M5. 18” barrel. Trijicon Tenmile 3-18x50. It’s meant as a bench rifle, although I have a Ferro Concepts padded slingster should I want to carry it. It’s a 12lb gun as you see it  I’m going to shoot it for the first time this weekend. With the brake and all the pudge, I think it’ll be a soft shooter. Has an agb and 5.5oz rifle buffer. I’m going to be curious as to how the recoil is on these 8lb 308 rifles. Hopefully there’s some honest video out there soon. Administrative Results just released a video of a lightweight hK AR pattern 308. But I don’t remember the operating system. I believe it was a piston gun. He commented on the recoil being pretty stout. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 6:21:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Never heard of an extractor being used to manage overpressure.… I think it’s so you can stick something in there to remove a stuck case. But I’m guessing and I’ve been wrong a bunch of times. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mudholestomper: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By ctfish15: Originally Posted By Ky_Bob: Originally Posted By ctfish15: Aha, found it. https://www.sigtalk.com/threads/716i-tread-barrel-screw.427532/ It's the sig tread 716i, "backs up the extractor in case of a catastrophic failure" . So it's not a vent. https://www.sigtalk.com/cdn-cgi/image/format=auto,onerror=redirect,width=1920,height=1920,fit=scale-down/https://www.sigtalk.com/attachments/th-jpeg.472846/ "backs up the extractor in case of a catastrophic failure How does it accomplish this? How does it back it up? Dunno. More unicorn features. Looks like it blows out if there's significant overpressure. Never heard of an extractor being used to manage overpressure.… I think it’s so you can stick something in there to remove a stuck case. But I’m guessing and I’ve been wrong a bunch of times. I wasn't speaking of the extractor, but extractors blow out all the time in overpressure events. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 9:50:30 PM EDT
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Got one on the way. 16" version. Pics and other info when I can.
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Posted: 9/20/2022 9:02:41 AM EDT
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Purchased the 16". Paid less than $1K at a local shop. Apparently the 20" sold the minute they put it on the wall.
It is surprisingly light. I have not weighed the rifle but subjectively it feels no heavier than my 6920. Trigger is light but the break it mushy. Only had a chance to shoot at a 25 yard indoor range. The felt recoil was less than expected - I assume it is thanks to the muzzle brake. Ran 60 rounds of Prvi through the rifle. It functioned 100% at gas setting #3. That being said, the muzzle brake has to go. I understand that shooting indoors was not the intended purpose of this rifle but I can imagine even on covered outdoor ranges the 'boomer' brake will be obnoxious. Next step is to spin on a flashhider, probably add a thicker recoil pad, and throw on an acog to try it out at a 300 yard range. In states where cans are legal or hog hunting is prevalent, I bet this rifle will shine. Here in Illinois, I am not exactly sure why I bought it. At least it's loud! |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 9:18:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jaqufrost]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Looks like it blows out if there's significant overpressure. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 9:38:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: No, it sits behind the extractor and keeps it from bulging outwards when a case fails. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: Originally Posted By backbencher: Looks like it blows out if there's significant overpressure. No, it sits behind the extractor and keeps it from bulging outwards when a case fails. Neat! |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2022 11:42:55 AM EDT
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https://mdws.forumchitchat.com/post/ruger-sfar-308-12445120
Some detailed photos with measurements. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 11:54:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NateIU10: https://mdws.forumchitchat.com/post/ruger-sfar-308-12445120 Some detailed photos with measurements. This is awesome, thank you! |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2022 3:33:39 PM EDT
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I am here just thinking that converting it to 6.5 CM and it would make a nice hunting option.
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Posted: 9/20/2022 3:47:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strayz: I am here just thinking that converting it to 6.5 CM and it would make a nice hunting option. That's why I got this one in .308, for a lightweight hunting option in 308. |
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Posted: 9/20/2022 8:25:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NateIU10: https://mdws.forumchitchat.com/post/ruger-sfar-308-12445120 Some detailed photos with measurements. Thanks !! Lots of answers there ! |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2022 9:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strayz: I am here just thinking that converting it to 6.5 CM and it would make a nice hunting option. Be willing to bet that one is already in the pipeline from Ruger. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 9/20/2022 10:53:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebert: Be willing to bet that one is already in the pipeline from Ruger. If this platform sells, and performs, as expected you will see variants rather quickly I'd guess |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 9/22/2022 2:26:18 AM EDT
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Well, I stopped by the local fun store, and I now have one. I picked up the 16 inch barrel and I do plan on shooting it suppressed. I have been planning on building a Aero Precision M5 this winter, this just happened to derail that plan.
First things first. It seems really light in comparison to other AR10 pattern rifles. Now I am not saying it is earth shattering light, but oz = pounds when having to pack it around the side and over the top of a mountain. Ruger does deserve some credit for this. I have not seen or handled the other options (AR15 / 7.62x51 rifles) on the market, so take it for what that is worth. I will be removing the compensator on the rifle. I have the Comp for my Sandman S that is going to be on the end. Yeah the suppressor is adding on a ton of weight out front and I may be getting a lighter suppressor to live on it if I really like the rifle. It feels decent made, not cheap. It is nice that it has Magpul furniture on it so you can replace it if you want. My stock seems super tight on the buffer tube, I am not going to complain (one less rattle many AR pattern firearms have). The Trigger, WOW. They say it is supposed to be 4.5? I need to get a trigger scale on mine, because it sure doesn't feel 4.5 pounds it feels more like a 2.5 to 3ish. That may be me, so I need to get a scale on that to make sure I am not delusional. It is shorter and feels a lot shorter than the other AR10 pattern rifles. May have to do with a 16 inch barrel and moving the center of gravity back towards the shooter. Now I need to wait until this weekend to send a few rounds down range. Things I am going to put on it. 1-6 or 1-8 LPVO unsure about what optic I want to put on this. I am not a sniper and 400-600 is what I would say is my max range. I am sure it is very capable of 800 yards in someone else's hands just not mine right now, it is a 16 inch barrel. So I will keep my expectations reasonable. Suppressor it is going to have a sandman S on it for right now. Thoughts on putting on a light or bipod? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:49:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Strayz: Thoughts on putting on a light or bipod? Are you going to hunt hogs or burglars w/ it? If yes, then light. Keep in mind, if hunting burglars, you're talking about setting off a .308 inside your house. Probably want that suppressor mounted 1st. Bipod - sure, w/ that can. Be tempting to see how you like it in the field w/ your new muzzle device & a blast can mounted, no bipod. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2022 1:24:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By olds442tyguy: Some poor fool will buy that then be screwed when the bolt grenades after a few hundred rounds. I have one that I bought new in, I think 2005 before I knew better. For some reason, Bushmaster machined a groove in the boat tail. The bolt can come apart there. From what I have gathered, the problem wasn't usually noticed until it was field stripped for cleaning and the bolt came out in two pieces. I would hardly call that grenading. In either case, if it fails, all you would need to do is purchase a RRA complete bolt carrier group. You could just purchase the bolt, but you would have to have the Bushmaster carrier machined to accept the larger diameter boat tail of the RRA bolt. I would hardly call that being screwed. Just fixing a broken gun. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2022 12:20:35 PM EDT
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The pin you're seeing in the barrel extension is something Sig put into the 516 (and later rifles) for their Over the Beach testing. It holds down the extractor in the case that the barrel is obstructed, like full of water or something, so the extractor doesn't fail and rather pressure blows out the barrel.
Other OTB changes have been drain holes in the receiver extension, and a chamber designed to better support the case. The goal is being able to fire the rifle immediately after removing it from the water. I believe alot of these changes began with the 416. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ctfish15: Huh. Where did I see a bolt with one big ejector? Must have been the Rogue Edit: rogue has one The Adam's Arms version of the DPMS GII design uses one large kidney bean shaped extractor. The GII also used some proprietary steel on the bolt. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/23/2022 8:31:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sowinskian: The pin you're seeing in the barrel extension is something Sig put into the 516 (and later rifles) for their Over the Beach testing. It holds down the extractor in the case that the barrel is obstructed, like full of water or something, so the extractor doesn't fail and rather pressure blows out the barrel. Other OTB changes have been drain holes in the receiver extension, and a chamber designed to better support the case. The goal is being able to fire the rifle immediately after removing it from the water. I believe alot of these changes began with the 416. The Adam's Arms version of the DPMS GII design uses one large kidney bean shaped extractor. The GII also used some proprietary steel on the bolt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sowinskian: The pin you're seeing in the barrel extension is something Sig put into the 516 (and later rifles) for their Over the Beach testing. It holds down the extractor in the case that the barrel is obstructed, like full of water or something, so the extractor doesn't fail and rather pressure blows out the barrel. Other OTB changes have been drain holes in the receiver extension, and a chamber designed to better support the case. The goal is being able to fire the rifle immediately after removing it from the water. I believe alot of these changes began with the 416. Originally Posted By ctfish15: Huh. Where did I see a bolt with one big ejector? Must have been the Rogue Edit: rogue has one The Adam's Arms version of the DPMS GII design uses one large kidney bean shaped extractor. The GII also used some proprietary steel on the bolt. Great info and thanks for sharing. I can believe the OTB stuff as a reasonable explanation. Kind of like the Glock marine spring cups. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/24/2022 11:08:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: A sub 7 pound 308 AR at Armalite DEF10 prices but with more features except for that 4140 barrel. Mixed feelings here LOL...Barrett uses 4140... 
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USA
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Posted: 9/24/2022 11:15:54 AM EDT
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I might pick one up in 20"
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Posted: 9/25/2022 9:47:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: STJ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: LOL...Barrett uses 4140... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: A sub 7 pound 308 AR at Armalite DEF10 prices but with more features except for that 4140 barrel. Mixed feelings here LOL...Barrett uses 4140... The cost in ammo, even if reloading! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:51:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: I might pick one up in 20" I think you should! I got one last Thursday…. |
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Posted: 9/25/2022 10:53:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: LOL...Barrett uses 4140... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: A sub 7 pound 308 AR at Armalite DEF10 prices but with more features except for that 4140 barrel. Mixed feelings here LOL...Barrett uses 4140... um okay?
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Posted: 9/25/2022 11:01:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STJ: Yea, I don't see shooting out a CHF nitrided 4140 308 barrel. The cost in ammo, even if reloading! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STJ: Originally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: A sub 7 pound 308 AR at Armalite DEF10 prices but with more features except for that 4140 barrel. Mixed feelings here LOL...Barrett uses 4140... The cost in ammo, even if reloading! Neither do I, but not for the argument of ammo prices. I bought it to hunt with as a lightweight option that won't be a burden when slung. It's not for gun golf or rifle courses and neither for SHTF. I have an Armalite DEF10 for that if a 308 is needed over an AR15. When I decide to buy something, I do want the most for my money. While 4150 CHF and CL would be better, I rationalized over case use and decided to buy based on that alone. YMMV |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 8:37:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson]
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So there's no free lunch. I assume a sub-eight pound 308 will kick like a sub-eight pound 308. Not that it will necessarily be unpleasant but it no doubt won't handle like a 223, either. That's a guess since I haven't fired the SFAR yet.
Externally the gun is very familiar. Effort needed to work the charging handle is more but otherwise everything feels correct. Distance to selector, bolt catch, mag release all feel right. The distance the charging handle travels also feels right. Most 308 pattern guns are sort of "off" with everything kind of being 5% or 10% out of whack. Not so here. Balance is good. But that's naked and empty. I assume 20 rounds of 168 BTHP will offset the general AR15 feel. But it still should feel more or less correct. The bolt and barrel extension is where the "magic" happens. Ruger claims to be using some kind of hot rod material in these parts. Lug geometry is also supposed to be improved. Too bad the Armalite crew didn't have modern stress analysis tools. Anyway, here are a few pics of the bolt and carrier.        My opinion may change after I actually shoot this thing but presently I think it is one of the coolest things Ruger has done in a long time. Something like this in 6.5 Creedmoor with a Proof barrel would be pretty much as modern as the modern sporting rifle can get. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:11:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ArizonaRifleman]
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As the owner of AR10's and LR308's, I can never say that the controls would feel off or the guns themselves. Why? Because that was never the case with them. And as an owner of the SFAR too, besides the weight being less the only differences that feel off to me is that in an AR15 size like it's hard to not want to cram an AR15 magazine inside where an AR10 is supposed to go.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:21:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Melvin_Johnson]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: As the owner of AR10's and LR308's, I can never say that the controls would feel off or the guns themselves. Why? Because that was never the case with them. And as an owner of the SFAR too, besides the weight being less the only differences that feel off to me is that in an AR15 size like it's hard to not want to cram an AR15 magazine inside where an AR10 is supposed to go. Guns themselves generally feel sort of off. At least to me. That's one of the things I liked so much about the G2 DPMS since the only thing really "off" was the size of the mag well. That and the distance to fully retract the charging handle. Deal breaker? Nope. But pretty cool that Ruger has been able to further tweak the concept. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:29:03 AM EDT
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Does anyone know yet what barrel nut the SFAR uses? Will another brand of nut fit? BCM for example so that a MCMR can be installed? Is the height / tall-ness of the upper correct so it will line up with someone else's rail? I haven't measured anything but it looks like the gas block may have to be replaced with something else depending on which rail.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 12:04:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: So there's no free lunch. I assume a sub-eight pound 308 will kick like a sub-eight pound 308. Not that it will necessarily be unpleasant but it no doubt won't handle like a 223, either. That's a guess since I haven't fired the SFAR yet. Externally the gun is very familiar. Effort needed to work the charging handle is more but otherwise everything feels correct. Distance to selector, bolt catch, mag release all feel right. The distance the charging handle travels also feels right. Most 308 pattern guns are sort of "off" with everything kind of being 5% or 10% out of whack. Not so here. Balance is good. But that's naked and empty. I assume 20 rounds of 168 BTHP will offset the general AR15 feel. But it still should feel more or less correct. The bolt and barrel extension is where the "magic" happens. Ruger claims to be using some kind of hot rod material in these parts. Lug geometry is also supposed to be improved. Too bad the Armalite crew didn't have modern stress analysis tools. Anyway, here are a few pics of the bolt and carrier. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220927/852f127bd39f49b5d58dcbf4c8c6d291.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220927/30b3084e25108d41a57e87b8caf67bf8.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220927/d729c15578ce3bbe9d951c652d5e93ac.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220927/27b2a4d2fa4cf059da9c50c2985468e4.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220927/e8c914c59e865028b4abebeccf96f62f.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220927/c0a8eff479727ca33303c7e397a051ea.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220927/d207a80072971c4077cad86bad88117c.jpg My opinion may change after I actually shoot this thing but presently I think it is one of the coolest things Ruger has done in a long time. Something like this in 6.5 Creedmoor with a Proof barrel would be pretty much as modern as the modern sporting rifle can get. Does an AR-15 bolt fit in the carrier? Will the .308 bolt fit in an AR carrier? Does the Ruger carrier fit in an AR upper? Does an AR-15 carrier fit in the Ruger upper, or is it sloppy? |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 1:22:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Daggertt]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: Does anyone know yet what barrel nut the SFAR uses? Will another brand of nut fit? BCM for example so that a MCMR can be installed? Is the height / tall-ness of the upper correct so it will line up with someone else's rail? I haven't measured anything but it looks like the gas block may have to be replaced with something else depending on which rail. But im interested to know the answer to this from someone who can test it. I enjoy my Rogue with mcmr 10 rail. Which i may have already posted earlier in this thread.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 1:49:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: adavis]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: If it is a copy of the POF rogue/revolution -which it appears to be from everything I've seen in photos, it should accept AR rails just fine. But im interested to know the answer to this from someone who can test it. I enjoy my Rogue with mcmr 10 rail. Which i may have already posted rattler in this thread. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/20220718_202737_jpg-2541368.JPG It was confirmed in a link shared earlier in the thread that the barrel nut is GTG with AR15 handguards, no clue on if the gas block will be an issue. And that rifle is sick as hell |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 3:57:44 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By adavis: It was confirmed in a link shared earlier in the thread that the barrel nut is GTG with AR15 handguards, no clue on if the gas block will be an issue. And that rifle is sick as hell Thanks for the info on the barrel nut. Not that I'm going to run out and change stuff just yet. But it is nice to know the option exists. I think Midwest Industries was the only option for the G2. Yeah, it is a pretty awesome rifle. Anesthetics are solid. Probably the only thing anyone may complain about is lack of ambi controls. A decent selector and a Norgon ambi catch should take care of most of that. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 4:02:59 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: Thanks for the info on the barrel nut. Not that I'm going to run out and change stuff just yet. But it is nice to know the option exists. I think Midwest Industries was the only option for the G2. Yeah, it is a pretty awesome rifle. Anesthetics are solid. Probably the only thing anyone may complain about is lack of ambi controls. A decent selector and a Norgon ambi catch should take care of most of that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: Originally Posted By adavis: It was confirmed in a link shared earlier in the thread that the barrel nut is GTG with AR15 handguards, no clue on if the gas block will be an issue. And that rifle is sick as hell Thanks for the info on the barrel nut. Not that I'm going to run out and change stuff just yet. But it is nice to know the option exists. I think Midwest Industries was the only option for the G2. Yeah, it is a pretty awesome rifle. Anesthetics are solid. Probably the only thing anyone may complain about is lack of ambi controls. A decent selector and a Norgon ambi catch should take care of most of that. 
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Posted: 9/27/2022 4:05:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: Ahem... I believe he was referring to MY sick as hell 12.5" 308 sbr with bcm mcmr rail. Nice looking Heater. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 6:14:36 PM EDT
[#41]
The bolt carrier could use a little bit more fishing on the machining
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Posted: 9/27/2022 7:39:08 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Does an AR-15 bolt fit in the carrier? Will the .308 bolt fit in an AR carrier? Does the Ruger carrier fit in an AR upper? Does an AR-15 carrier fit in the Ruger upper, or is it sloppy? 308 and 223 bolts will swap. The 223 bolt (and carrier) will fit into the 308 upper but not the other way around. 308 bolt carrier itself is tight inside the 223 upper. By design or just the way it worked out? 
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Posted: 9/27/2022 7:40:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:02:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By STJ: The bolt carrier could use a little bit more fishing on the machining I agree, that carrier is rough as hell. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:29:05 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Melvin_Johnson: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/18199/PSX_20220927_163625-2541853.jpg Thank you for that. Appreciate it. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 10:32:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -buckwheat-: I agree, that carrier is rough as hell. If it's not a bearing surface, does it really matter? |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 10:57:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: If it's not a bearing surface, does it really matter? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Originally Posted By -buckwheat-: I agree, that carrier is rough as hell. If it's not a bearing surface, does it really matter? On Gunstagram, everything matters. 
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:01:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: If it's not a bearing surface, does it really matter? Look again at the bearing surfaces. They look like a file. |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:04:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: On Gunstagram, everything matters. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By vmpglenn: Originally Posted By -buckwheat-: I agree, that carrier is rough as hell. If it's not a bearing surface, does it really matter? On Gunstagram, everything matters. I’d say this matters.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/28/2022 11:06:35 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -buckwheat-: I’d say this matters. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/219865/71FD4542-0D7F-4223-93AA-A9F6B06E4216_jpe-2542468.JPG Yeah, that is a little rough... |
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