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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/15/2024 10:44:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCER: I’m going to take the dremel to the hand guard where the gas block sits. It’s close, maybe .020 clearance. @DVCER, Let us know about the outcome of dremeling clearance, on your handguard. I'm on the fence about it, as I can see it's very tight on mine, would love to see/hear a concrete data point on before and after. Thx in advance! |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 10:52:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0ntos: @DVCER, Let us know about the outcome of dremeling clearance, on your handguard. I'm on the fence about it, as I can see it's very tight on mine, would love to see/hear a concrete data point on before and after. Thx in advance! Will do. I already spent 30 minutes with a file in there just to get that tiny bit of clearance. Dremel should be easy, and I have no idea if it’ll help. Barrels do whip around some for sure. |
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Posted: 3/15/2024 11:57:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rickesis: Surely you don't think the ejector keeps the brass off of the bolt face after firing. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:07:24 PM EDT
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Has anyone tried out a Vltor AR buffer system or BCMs version on it the SFAR.?
I had some light ejector marks on my last outing with a pretty standard 308 service rifle load of IMR4895 and a 168gr bullet. Currently using an H2 buffer and may step it up to an H3. Ejection pattern has been at 2 -2:30 with various rounds. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2024 7:03:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Beater9C1: Has anyone tried out a Vltor AR buffer system or BCMs version on it the SFAR.? I had some light ejector marks on my last outing with a pretty standard 308 service rifle load of IMR4895 and a 168gr bullet. Currently using an H2 buffer and may step it up to an H3. Ejection pattern has been at 2 -2:30 with various rounds. The tube is VLTOR length with a carbine buffer, as I understand it. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 11:56:32 AM EDT
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Did you guys see where FN is suing Ruger saying the name SFAR is to close to Scar.....
That is the most F'ed up thing that I have ever heard of... To bad to sad that FN runs over the buying gun public and then wants to blame others (my thought anyway). Over price your stuff then cry about it.... All good, Red |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 3:32:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By badredfish: Did you guys see where FN is suing Ruger saying the name SFAR is to close to Scar..... That is the most F'ed up thing that I have ever heard of... To bad to sad that FN runs over the buying gun public and then wants to blame others (my thought anyway). Over price your stuff then cry about it.... All good, Red https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/gunmaker-fn-herstal-sues-rival-ruger-for-infringing-scar-mark |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/22/2024 4:09:29 PM EDT
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Other than being .308, I wouldn't mistake those two guns or even think about a SCAR and looking at a SFAR. I have a SFAR (that I haven't shot yet), but won't even look at a SCAR due to cost. This is FN wasting their money. Unfortunately, this waste Ruger's money as well and will ultimately make both of their guns cost a little more.
I hope Ruger keeps working over the SFAR and stays ahead of the crowd. I suspect small frame AR-10 platforms will saturate the market in the new few years. POF should have had offered a budget version (or more budget version) of their small frame AR-10. POF is pushing the mid-tier option, so I get them keeping their prices up. I rather sell 1 gun at $2K vs. 2x at $1K each. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 3/26/2024 11:36:14 PM EDT
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When switching hand guards do you have to change the barrel nut also?
Or do the Geissele and Midwest Industries work with the factory barrel nut? |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 7:50:48 AM EDT
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I have a used SFAR coming in and want to get some spare parts. All I see are small bolt parts on the Ruger website. Is it possible to purchase a complete BCG?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:19:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BULLDAWG_556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By scarnar: When switching hand guards do you have to change the barrel nut also? Or do the Geissele and Midwest Industries work with the factory barrel nut? Yes, you will have to switch the barrel nut. A crecent wrench (adjustable wrech) will pull the factory Edit to strike a mistype. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:30:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BULLDAWG_556: Yes, you will have to switch the barrel nut. A crecent wrench (adjustable wrech) will pull the factory handguard. Will a standard AR 10 vise block work to hold the receiver? https://www.plastixrevolution.net/products/223-ar-15-308-ar-10-upper-receiver-vise-block |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:43:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DR2341: Will a standard AR 10 vise block work to hold the receiver? https://www.plastixrevolution.net/products/223-ar-15-308-ar-10-upper-receiver-vise-block I use a standard AR15 upper clamshell... |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 10:52:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BULLDAWG_556: I use a standard AR15 upper clamshell... Hey hey. Good deal. I already have one of those! |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 12:56:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BULLDAWG_556: Yes, you will have to switch the barrel nut. A crecent wrench (adjustable wrech) will pull the factory handguard. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BULLDAWG_556: Originally Posted By scarnar: When switching hand guards do you have to change the barrel nut also? Or do the Geissele and Midwest Industries work with the factory barrel nut? Yes, you will have to switch the barrel nut. A crecent wrench (adjustable wrech) will pull the factory handguard. IDK about switching, but my factory HG is only held on with a pair of screws. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 1:33:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: I have a used SFAR coming in and want to get some spare parts. All I see are small bolt parts on the Ruger website. Is it possible to purchase a complete BCG? From what I've heard: no. They only want to service bolts and barrels. Perhaps due to the proprietary nature of the bolt and barrel extension material. I expect if this platform takes off, we'll likely have to rely on aftermarket to come up with spare parts |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 2:36:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DVCER: IDK about switching, but my factory HG is only held on with a pair of screws. Whoops I meant barrel nut.... I'll edit my post. Typing slower than I think.... lol |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/27/2024 9:46:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BULLDAWG_556: I use a standard AR15 upper clamshell... Well i used my ar15 clamshell to remove the factory barrel nut. It worked but it's not quiiiiite right. I think mine is a wheeler, don't remember. Might need a different one for installing the bcm barrel nut. Receiver can twist a little in the clamshell. I think it's because the mag well is wider. This is just for posterity. And maybe a request to see what other folks have used. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 2:01:38 AM EDT
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A Geissele Reaction Rod works.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:03:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gasman: A Geissele Reaction Rod works. AR10 specific reaction rod correct? I've read quite a bit that reaction rods aren't ideal for installing the barrel nut. By holding the barrel fixed, the torque is applied to the alignment pin and then to the aluminum receiver where it can potentially damage the receiver and widen the receiver and thus loosen the fitment of the barrel. Better to hold the receiver when installing barrel nut. Also the jig I linked above from plastix revolution is very cheap and a lot of people are singing it's praise. Just wondering if it will work on the SFAR since it relies on the spacing between the takedown pins and I'm not sure if the sfar has the same spacing as other AR 10 type receivers. |
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Posted: 3/28/2024 9:28:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DR2341: AR10 specific reaction rod correct? I've read quite a bit that reaction rods aren't ideal for installing the barrel nut. By holding the barrel fixed, the torque is applied to the alignment pin and then to the aluminum receiver where it can potentially damage the receiver and widen the receiver and thus loosen the fitment of the barrel. Better to hold the receiver when installing barrel nut. Also the jig I linked above from plastix revolution is very cheap and a lot of people are singing it's praise. Just wondering if it will work on the SFAR since it relies on the spacing between the takedown pins and I'm not sure if the sfar has the same spacing as other AR 10 type receivers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DR2341: Originally Posted By Gasman: A Geissele Reaction Rod works. AR10 specific reaction rod correct? I've read quite a bit that reaction rods aren't ideal for installing the barrel nut. By holding the barrel fixed, the torque is applied to the alignment pin and then to the aluminum receiver where it can potentially damage the receiver and widen the receiver and thus loosen the fitment of the barrel. Better to hold the receiver when installing barrel nut. Also the jig I linked above from plastix revolution is very cheap and a lot of people are singing it's praise. Just wondering if it will work on the SFAR since it relies on the spacing between the takedown pins and I'm not sure if the sfar has the same spacing as other AR 10 type receivers. SFAR uses AR-15 takedown pin spacing as does the POF Rogue, Prescott, & Revolution. That's why they're so light. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:13:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Britt-dog]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: I want one in 6mm Creedmoor! |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/28/2024 10:35:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: SFAR uses AR-15 takedown pin spacing as does the POF Rogue, Prescott, & Revolution. That's why they're so light. Thank you! Then the plastix revolution jig will work and a number of others as well. I actually just tried this by slapping an Ar15 upper on the SFAR. It would've fit were it not for the wider bolt catch. The spacing and everything is exactly the same as you said. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/6/2024 9:55:43 PM EDT
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Ran the SFAR again today. Changed from an H2 to an H3 buffer to try and get the ejection pattern more towards the three o'clock position.
Ejection was more consistent, but for some reason some brass has more deep dimples from the dual ejectors than others, even when used with the same type of ammo. Leaning towards an Aero Precision adjustable gas block for it in the future. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/6/2024 10:34:37 PM EDT
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The adjustable gas block on it now not working out? If you’re using commercial brass, you will see a lot more marks than lake city brass. Have owned many AR 15 and 10’s. Have learned to use LC only in AR’s.
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NH, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2024 12:19:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DR2341: From what I've heard: no. They only want to service bolts and barrels. Perhaps due to the proprietary nature of the bolt and barrel extension material. I expect if this platform takes off, we'll likely have to rely on aftermarket to come up with spare parts I am hoping that it takes off and that is an option. I am disappointed in Ruger's inability or unwillingness to offer a replacement/spare BCG. I called them today and even offered to send the unit to them for fitting of a second. The answer was no we do not sell spare BCG unless your has an issue. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 12:31:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bartlanz: I am hoping that it takes off and that is an option. I am disappointed in Ruger's inability or unwillingness to offer a replacement/spare BCG. I called them today and even offered to send the unit to them for fitting of a second. The answer was no we do not sell spare BCG unless your has an issue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bartlanz: Originally Posted By DR2341: From what I've heard: no. They only want to service bolts and barrels. Perhaps due to the proprietary nature of the bolt and barrel extension material. I expect if this platform takes off, we'll likely have to rely on aftermarket to come up with spare parts I am hoping that it takes off and that is an option. I am disappointed in Ruger's inability or unwillingness to offer a replacement/spare BCG. I called them today and even offered to send the unit to them for fitting of a second. The answer was no we do not sell spare BCG unless your has an issue. Does the POF bolt mate to the Ruger barrel extension? If so, a POF BCG might be an option. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 7:50:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bartlanz: I am hoping that it takes off and that is an option. I am disappointed in Ruger's inability or unwillingness to offer a replacement/spare BCG. I called them today and even offered to send the unit to them for fitting of a second. The answer was no we do not sell spare BCG unless your has an issue. Everyone knows that spare parts become rifles. Just buy a 2nd SFAR if you are that worried about not having spare parts when SHTF. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 1:42:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bartlanz: I am hoping that it takes off and that is an option. I am disappointed in Ruger's inability or unwillingness to offer a replacement/spare BCG. I called them today and even offered to send the unit to them for fitting of a second. The answer was no we do not sell spare BCG unless your has an issue. A SFAR was on my short list to purchase. Not after that. If i cannot buy spare BCGs, then fuck off. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:54:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: A SFAR was on my short list to purchase. Not after that. If i cannot buy spare BCGs, then fuck off. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: Originally Posted By bartlanz: I am hoping that it takes off and that is an option. I am disappointed in Ruger's inability or unwillingness to offer a replacement/spare BCG. I called them today and even offered to send the unit to them for fitting of a second. The answer was no we do not sell spare BCG unless your has an issue. A SFAR was on my short list to purchase. Not after that. If i cannot buy spare BCGs, then fuck off. Try POF. Even lighter. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 7:47:11 PM EDT
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I remember someone posting some pics somewhere in one of these threads about the compatibility between POF Rogue and SFAR. They even swapped the uppers but didn't try shooting them that way IIRC.
Has anyone else done any messing around with these two platforms? I'd love a 20" 308 Rogue, but POF doesn't make such a beast. I'm curious what's interchangeable. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 8:18:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: I remember someone posting some pics somewhere in one of these threads about the compatibility between POF Rogue and SFAR. They even swapped the uppers but didn't try shooting them that way IIRC. Has anyone else done any messing around with these two platforms? I'd love a 20" 308 Rogue, but POF doesn't make such a beast. I'm curious what's interchangeable. 16" Rogue, have Paladin Machine make you a 20" featherweight? |
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Posted: 4/10/2024 4:49:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: A SFAR was on my short list to purchase. Not after that. If i cannot buy spare BCGs, then fuck off. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gotigers: Originally Posted By bartlanz: I am hoping that it takes off and that is an option. I am disappointed in Ruger's inability or unwillingness to offer a replacement/spare BCG. I called them today and even offered to send the unit to them for fitting of a second. The answer was no we do not sell spare BCG unless your has an issue. A SFAR was on my short list to purchase. Not after that. If i cannot buy spare BCGs, then fuck off. POF will sell you a spare bolt assembly for the Rogue at the low price of $174. https://pof-usa.com/product/revolution-bolt-and-firing-pin-kit/ Add that to the price of the base 16 inch rifle $1629 = $1803 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/01662 Ruger SFAR's sell for $899.99 x 2 = $1798 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/5610 Just buy a 2nd SFAR if you want spare parts. |
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Posted: 4/10/2024 7:13:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: POF will sell you a spare bolt assembly for the Rogue at the low price of $174. https://pof-usa.com/product/revolution-bolt-and-firing-pin-kit/ Add that to the price of the base 16 inch rifle $1629 = $1803 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/01662 Ruger SFAR's sell for $899.99 x 2 = $1798 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/5610 Just buy a 2nd SFAR if you want spare parts.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/10/2024 2:00:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: POF will sell you a spare bolt assembly for the Rogue at the low price of $174. https://pof-usa.com/product/revolution-bolt-and-firing-pin-kit/ Add that to the price of the base 16 inch rifle $1629 = $1803 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/01662 Ruger SFAR's sell for $899.99 x 2 = $1798 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/5610 Just buy a 2nd SFAR if you want spare parts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: Originally Posted By gotigers: Originally Posted By bartlanz: I am hoping that it takes off and that is an option. I am disappointed in Ruger's inability or unwillingness to offer a replacement/spare BCG. I called them today and even offered to send the unit to them for fitting of a second. The answer was no we do not sell spare BCG unless your has an issue. A SFAR was on my short list to purchase. Not after that. If i cannot buy spare BCGs, then fuck off. POF will sell you a spare bolt assembly for the Rogue at the low price of $174. https://pof-usa.com/product/revolution-bolt-and-firing-pin-kit/ Add that to the price of the base 16 inch rifle $1629 = $1803 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/01662 Ruger SFAR's sell for $899.99 x 2 = $1798 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/5610 Just buy a 2nd SFAR if you want spare parts. 
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Posted: 4/11/2024 6:00:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drobs: POF will sell you a spare bolt assembly for the Rogue at the low price of $174. https://pof-usa.com/product/revolution-bolt-and-firing-pin-kit/ Add that to the price of the base 16 inch rifle $1629 = $1803 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/01662 Ruger SFAR's sell for $899.99 x 2 = $1798 https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/5610 Just buy a 2nd SFAR if you want spare parts.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 11:09:53 PM EDT
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This thread cost me $1K so far.
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Posted: 4/15/2024 9:07:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Britt-dog: Yup. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Britt-dog: Originally Posted By jaqufrost: I want one in 6mm Creedmoor! Or .22 Creedmor maybe? I'm studying both... Thoughts on which? |
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Posted: 4/15/2024 10:47:15 PM EDT
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So if you were to buy a SFAR, and want to replace that ridiculous rail, what's the simple answer?
I like MCMR, but do not wanna deal with the barrel nut issue and wanna give the gas block proper space. Midwest Industries? Guys who have BTDT, recommendations are appreciated. Especially with pics. Yes I did read this thread, but this is as clear as mud to me still. TYIA |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:09:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: So if you were to buy a SFAR, and want to replace that ridiculous rail, what's the simple answer? I like MCMR, but do not wanna deal with the barrel nut issue and wanna give the gas block proper space. Midwest Industries? Guys who have BTDT, recommendations are appreciated. Especially with pics. Yes I did read this thread, but this is as clear as mud to me still. TYIA I'd plan to change the gas block as well or get a shorter handguard that leaves or exposed. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:02:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: What is "the barrel nut issue"? I'd plan to change the gas block as well or get a shorter handguard that leaves or exposed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: So if you were to buy a SFAR, and want to replace that ridiculous rail, what's the simple answer? I like MCMR, but do not wanna deal with the barrel nut issue and wanna give the gas block proper space. Midwest Industries? Guys who have BTDT, recommendations are appreciated. Especially with pics. Yes I did read this thread, but this is as clear as mud to me still. TYIA I'd plan to change the gas block as well or get a shorter handguard that leaves or exposed. What I meant to say is that I don't wanna dick around with swapping out the barrel nut, if it's not necessary. What the main motivation for changing the gas block? Let's just say I'm nowhere near a gunsmith and would like to put my days of assembling rifles behind me. Especially working on fucking AR-10s with 69% interchangeable parts. I just want a lightweight rifle in .308 that works, with a normal mlok rail. Most of my shooting is suppressed these days Edit your POF rifles with MCMR look badass. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:41:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: What I meant to say is that I don't wanna dick around with swapping out the barrel nut, if it's not necessary. What the main motivation for changing the gas block? Let's just say I'm nowhere near a gunsmith and would like to put my days of assembling rifles behind me. Especially working on fucking AR-10s with 69% interchangeable parts. I just want a lightweight rifle in .308 that works, with a normal mlok rail. Most of my shooting is suppressed these days Edit your POF rifles with MCMR look badass. I'm suggesting changing the gas block because that's what seems to be causing the most grief - it's too big to really fit inside most handguards without touching. If you've changed this to a different, lower profile gas block, you can pretty much use whatever handguard you want. From what i understand with the sfar you can: 1. Get a bigger handguard like the midwest sp 2. Modify the gas block or handguard with a dremel to make it fit 3. Get a ~9" handguard and leave the midlength gas block exposed 4. Change the gas block 5. Accept it how it is And thanks. It's an mcmr 10 over a midlength strike industries adjustable gas block on a 12.5" barrel. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:07:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: I see. So first off, if you change the handguard, you'll be changing the barrel nut in most cases. I'm not sure what, if any, other handguards are compatible with ruger's barrel nut. I'm suggesting changing the gas block because that's what seems to be causing the most grief - it's too big to really fit inside most handguards without touching. If you've changed this to a different, lower profile gas block, you can pretty much use whatever handguard you want. From what i understand with the sfar you can: 1. Get a bigger handguard like the midwest sp 2. Modify the gas block or handguard with a dremel to make it fit 3. Get a ~9" handguard and leave the midlength gas block exposed 4. Change the gas block 5. Accept it how it is And thanks. It's an mcmr 10 over a midlength strike industries adjustable gas block on a 12.5" barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Daggertt: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: What I meant to say is that I don't wanna dick around with swapping out the barrel nut, if it's not necessary. What the main motivation for changing the gas block? Let's just say I'm nowhere near a gunsmith and would like to put my days of assembling rifles behind me. Especially working on fucking AR-10s with 69% interchangeable parts. I just want a lightweight rifle in .308 that works, with a normal mlok rail. Most of my shooting is suppressed these days Edit your POF rifles with MCMR look badass. I'm suggesting changing the gas block because that's what seems to be causing the most grief - it's too big to really fit inside most handguards without touching. If you've changed this to a different, lower profile gas block, you can pretty much use whatever handguard you want. From what i understand with the sfar you can: 1. Get a bigger handguard like the midwest sp 2. Modify the gas block or handguard with a dremel to make it fit 3. Get a ~9" handguard and leave the midlength gas block exposed 4. Change the gas block 5. Accept it how it is And thanks. It's an mcmr 10 over a midlength strike industries adjustable gas block on a 12.5" barrel. Thanks for the advice. I was hoping the barrel nut was a standard nut type of deal, or at least that it would have a compatible option. I get that they want to advertise light weight, but Ruger needs to make a version with a non gay rail. Or at least sell a normal rail like everyone else, that can easily swap in. Maybe I will just cover up 87% of those oversized holes with some panel covers. Lazy AF these days. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:16:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Thanks for the advice. I was hoping the barrel nut was a standard nut type of deal, or at least that it would have a compatible option. I get that they want to advertise light weight, but Ruger needs to make a version with a non gay rail. Or at least sell a normal rail like everyone else, that can easily swap in. Maybe I will just cover up 87% of those oversized holes with some panel covers. Lazy AF these days. The only barrel nut that is universal is the GI barrel nut. Nearly all aftermarket vendors use a different system with different sized and shaped nuts so there is not going to be much compatibility. Any time you plan on changing a freefloat rail you can pretty much plan on having to change the nut as well. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:17:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: The only barrel nut that is universal is the GI barrel nut. Nearly all aftermarket vendors use a different system with different sized and shaped nuts so there is not going to be much compatibility. Any time you plan on changing a freefloat rail you can pretty much plan on having to change the nut as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Thanks for the advice. I was hoping the barrel nut was a standard nut type of deal, or at least that it would have a compatible option. I get that they want to advertise light weight, but Ruger needs to make a version with a non gay rail. Or at least sell a normal rail like everyone else, that can easily swap in. Maybe I will just cover up 87% of those oversized holes with some panel covers. Lazy AF these days. The only barrel nut that is universal is the GI barrel nut. Nearly all aftermarket vendors use a different system with different sized and shaped nuts so there is not going to be much compatibility. Any time you plan on changing a freefloat rail you can pretty much plan on having to change the nut as well. First world problem So sick of this shit   So what's the go to gas block that fits under MCMR? It amazes me that the FAL bros invented an awesome adjustable gas concept like 75 years ago, and we can't figure that shit out on AR's in 2024. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 1:44:56 PM EDT
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I wouldn't be interested unless the rifles had sufficient accuracy. There are plenty of inaccurate rifles for sale. A rifle that shoots good 7.62X51 ball ammo into 1.5-1.75" inches at 100 yards, and match ammo into 1" or less at 100 yards. OR a 5.56 rifle that will shoot good 5.56 ball ammo into 1.25-1.5" at 100 yards, and match ammo into 1" or less.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 2:00:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lazyengineer]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Genin: I wouldn't be interested unless the rifles had sufficient accuracy. There are plenty of inaccurate rifles for sale. A rifle that shoots good 7.62X51 ball ammo into 1.5-1.75" inches at 100 yards, and match ammo into 1" or less at 100 yards. OR a 5.56 rifle that will shoot good 5.56 ball ammo into 1.25-1.5" at 100 yards, and match ammo into 1" or less. I'm close to that. I'll allow a little more slop on the SFAR for the weight and size trade-off, but not a lot. I find for anything short of high end match shooting, 1.5MOA from a .308 class round is acceptable. Thats 1.5 MOA all day, not the best one of the day though. Even at the 1000 yard gong range, you can do OK with that. Obviously for a bolt action we're talking hard sub-MOA expectation though - but this is an ultra-light semi-auto large power round gun. But 2 MOA is a hard no. I'm watching this thread for 6.5CM accuracy. Right now I'm sitting and waiting between a 6.5CM SFAR, or a 6.5CM WLVRN. Too soon to make the call. Though the price is right on the SFAR. PSA is getting upstaged here by a lot, on this. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 3:12:41 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lazyengineer: I'm close to that. I'll allow a little more slop on the SFAR for the weight and size trade-off, but not a lot. I find for anything short of high end match shooting, 1.5MOA from a .308 class round is acceptable. Thats 1.5 MOA all day, not the best one of the day though. Even at the 1000 yard gong range, you can do OK with that. Obviously for a bolt action we're talking hard sub-MOA expectation though - but this is an ultra-light semi-auto large power round gun. But 2 MOA is a hard no. I'm watching this thread for 6.5CM accuracy. Right now I'm sitting and waiting between a 6.5CM SFAR, or a 6.5CM WLVRN. Too soon to make the call. Though the price is right on the SFAR. PSA is getting upstaged here by a lot, on this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lazyengineer: Originally Posted By Genin: I wouldn't be interested unless the rifles had sufficient accuracy. There are plenty of inaccurate rifles for sale. A rifle that shoots good 7.62X51 ball ammo into 1.5-1.75" inches at 100 yards, and match ammo into 1" or less at 100 yards. OR a 5.56 rifle that will shoot good 5.56 ball ammo into 1.25-1.5" at 100 yards, and match ammo into 1" or less. I'm close to that. I'll allow a little more slop on the SFAR for the weight and size trade-off, but not a lot. I find for anything short of high end match shooting, 1.5MOA from a .308 class round is acceptable. Thats 1.5 MOA all day, not the best one of the day though. Even at the 1000 yard gong range, you can do OK with that. Obviously for a bolt action we're talking hard sub-MOA expectation though - but this is an ultra-light semi-auto large power round gun. But 2 MOA is a hard no. I'm watching this thread for 6.5CM accuracy. Right now I'm sitting and waiting between a 6.5CM SFAR, or a 6.5CM WLVRN. Too soon to make the call. Though the price is right on the SFAR. PSA is getting upstaged here by a lot, on this. 1) large gun company's proprietary rifle that uses many standard parts and has barrels that are easily made and replaced; 2) small gun company w/ a history of indifferent QC that has an entirely proprietary rifle... |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 8:16:45 AM EDT
[#49]
Looks like Ruger does sell some odd small parts for the SFAR:
https://shopruger.com/Parts/products/2450/ |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:03:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9D1Alpha]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: The only barrel nut that is universal is the GI barrel nut. Nearly all aftermarket vendors use a different system with different sized and shaped nuts so there is not going to be much compatibility. Any time you plan on changing a freefloat rail you can pretty much plan on having to change the nut as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By s4s4u: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Thanks for the advice. I was hoping the barrel nut was a standard nut type of deal, or at least that it would have a compatible option. I get that they want to advertise light weight, but Ruger needs to make a version with a non gay rail. Or at least sell a normal rail like everyone else, that can easily swap in. Maybe I will just cover up 87% of those oversized holes with some panel covers. Lazy AF these days. The only barrel nut that is universal is the GI barrel nut. Nearly all aftermarket vendors use a different system with different sized and shaped nuts so there is not going to be much compatibility. Any time you plan on changing a freefloat rail you can pretty much plan on having to change the nut as well. That's why I'd prefer a receiver with an "extension" and an inside bbl nut ...then the FFR just slides over the receiver extension and bolts on . * cleaner look and stronger too |
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