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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Raptor charge handle knock off?

Posted: 8/3/2017 9:29:17 AM EDT

I came across THESE today while looking for a charging handle for a new build. I dont own any charging handles of this style. Does anyone have one of these? Legit or junk? Thoughts? Says it ships from US but I suspect asain knock off. Thanks!

Posted: 8/3/2017 10:37:34 AM EDT

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Says it ships "TO U.S.".

From land of cheap knock off shit China, most likely.

Personally, I'd spend my $ on quality.

Posted: 8/3/2017 10:42:51 AM EDT

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white knight has the real thing for $85 with free shipping, fyi

Posted: 8/3/2017 11:17:54 AM EDT

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They are junk.

I bought one on ebay and only the side with the latch worked.

I sent it back.

Don't waste your money.

Posted: 8/3/2017 11:34:37 AM EDT

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Says it ships "TO U.S.".

From land of cheap knock off shit China, most likely.

Personally, I'd spend my $ on quality.

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Under description it states "Shipped from US". I understand that "shipped from" and "made in" are clearly not the same and it's probably China junk. I was more so curious if anyone had actual personal experience. Thank you for your input thought!

Posted: 8/3/2017 11:35:31 AM EDT

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They are junk.

I bought one on ebay and only the side with the latch worked.

I sent it back.

Don't waste your money.

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Thank you sir for your input!

Posted: 8/3/2017 11:39:53 AM EDT

[#6]

or spend 45$ on a BCM....

Posted: 8/3/2017 12:42:57 PM EDT

[#7]

You must see something different?

Posted: 8/3/2017 1:01:50 PM EDT

[#8]

Just buy the real thing, you'll be a lot happier in the long run.

Posted: 8/3/2017 1:12:15 PM EDT

[#9]

Radian is releasing a Poly Handled version of the raptor and it's something like 55 bucks at brownells.

Posted: 8/3/2017 1:13:27 PM EDT

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You must see something different?

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Yes, above that, directly under the price is the description. In the description it says "ships from US". Contradiction within the ad, even more reason not to order.

Posted: 8/3/2017 1:14:37 PM EDT

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Just buy the real thing, you'll be a lot happier in the long run.

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Im buying a NIB AXTS from the EE for $65

Posted: 8/3/2017 1:20:07 PM EDT

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Im buying a NIB AXTS from the EE for $65

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You will be happier.

Posted: 8/3/2017 3:47:09 PM EDT

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Im buying a NIB AXTS from the EE for $65

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Excellent.

Posted: 8/3/2017 11:33:03 PM EDT

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I came across THESE today while looking for a charging handle for a new build. I dont own any charging handles of this style. Does anyone have one of these? Legit or junk? Thoughts? Says it ships from US but I suspect asain knock off. Thanks!

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That's a knock off, and a very poor one at that. The "in your face" tell tale sign on that one is the obvious roll pins used for the latches. (Real) Raptors do not use roll pins, they use COIL spring/pins.
Also, with ebay and others, "US SHIPPER" is stated not to elude that it's US made... it's to assure you it won't take 4 weeks to get to you (as is commonly the case for China stuff, from China), as it's ALREADY "in" the US (but not US made).

BTW, there are also very CLOSE fakes of the Raptor that even use coil pins. The next thing to look at the latch hook (the portion that locks onto the receiver). Raptors have a curved inside "hook", fakes have a flat inner then the hook. That curve adds cost that the knockoff's are not willing to do. The third thing to look for uneven "serrating" on the handles. Raptor's have beautiful machine work (they're a work of art)... the knockoff's have crude, rough, sharp (genuine Raptors have squared off serrations) and uneven serration.
Hope this helps in your quest.

Posted: 8/5/2017 5:50:08 AM EDT

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Yea I don't use Wish

Posted: 8/8/2017 3:18:44 PM EDT

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Radian is releasing a Poly Handled version of the raptor and it's something like 55 bucks at brownells.

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I hate you for emptying my wallet.

Link to Brownells

Posted: 8/9/2017 12:26:07 AM EDT

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Don't get why people always buy cheap knockoff crap. I mean how hard is it to save up $50.00-$80.00?

Recycle cans or sell some unwanted junk to make extra cash. Don't go throwing away good hard earned money on cheap shit.

Also you get to buy an American made product when you buy the real deal.

Posted: 8/9/2017 12:58:38 AM EDT

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Don't get why people always buy cheap knockoff crap. I mean how hard is it to save up $50.00-$80.00?

Recycle cans or sell some unwanted junk to make extra cash. Don't go throwing away good hard earned money on cheap shit.

Also you get to buy an American made product when you buy the real deal.

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Who bought cheap knock off crap? Im the king of buy once, cry once and I purchased the real thing. I was just curious if anyone had experience with one of the knock offs so I could get feedback on the differences between real and fake. I buy American made products as much as possible but when it comes to hard earned money its all about value. Some things in life can be produced at the same quality for a better value.. Besides that I work 90 hrs a week and don't have time to collect cans

Posted: 8/9/2017 1:40:56 AM EDT

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Look harder and you can find shit quality Chinese knockoffs for $14 each. And I'm sure you could get a qty price even lower.

This one is on a iffy (at best) website at a price that's less than half of a real one. You know it's a knock-off. You know it's from China. You know it is violating the Raptor patent. So are you cheap (and don't care if your shit works) or are you selling them? Or do you really believe in something for nothing?

Posted: 8/9/2017 2:29:54 AM EDT

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Look harder and you can find shit quality Chinese knockoffs for $14 each. And I'm sure you could get a qty price even lower.

This one is on a iffy (at best) website at a price that's less than half of a real one. You know it's a knock-off. You know it's from China. You know it is violating the Raptor patent. So are you cheap (and don't care if your shit works) or are you selling them? Or do you really believe in something for nothing?

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Posted: 8/16/2017 10:15:38 AM EDT

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FWIW I have several genuine Raptor handles and a few years ago at a local gun show I found a vendor selling no name Raptor clone handles for $30.

Although all parts were parkerized which made the latch operation gritty it functioned just as my Raptors, true ambi. Some CLP and use and it's as smooth as my Raptors.

I've seen a few clones on the web but they're running about half the cost of a real Raptor. But they're not all as well made as my clone based on reviews. And with the Geissele Super on the market now (also an great handle) Raptors have been selling for less. So if I can't hold it in my hand and inspect it I'm not gambling.

If you want a nice extended latch for $30 Strike Industries is a nice unit. Not ambi, but well made.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Raptor charge handle knock off?

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