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Posted: 9/17/2014 2:15:01 AM EDT
As you all may know, this site has had its own branded billet lower and upper receivers for several years now. The lower looks like this:
What I disliked about it is it had the AR15.com website name on it in three different places. Including in fairly large font right under the bolt face logo. Well, with the help of you guys on this site, along with a poll in general discussion to show there was a desire, I talked AR15.com administration into producing a second style of billet lower (and upper) with minimal ".com" branding. They removed the .com name per request from underneath the logo, and they also removed the name from the ambi bolt release on the right side. Giving the lower a much cleaner look. The new version looks like this: 
The upper is also available now without the .com name, also for a cleaner look. They produced 100 of the new lowers, and they have been up on the online store for about four days now. Last I checked there are 58 left. If your interested, when you go to the store you select the standard billet lower. You will notice all the pictures show the original lower. You must use the drop down to the right to select the "TX Edition" which is the new cleaner lower as shown below: 
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Posted: 9/18/2014 10:59:05 AM EDT
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Looks much better .
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:05:46 PM EDT
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Remove the picture/logo and I would buy one. I actually considered buying one and having a body guy try to fill in all that crap but it is too expensive to jack with.
The first company that comes out with an ambi lower with only the required information printed discretely on the trigger guard or similar will make a killing. I would probably buy a few. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 1:11:32 PM EDT
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They made it worse IMHO.
The selector stops are unnecessary and look stupid, and on both sides, it looks like someone rushed the design and tried to squeeze text in wherever they could, where are the original look very good, just like the magpul billet design. The reason so many wanted the AR15.com removed from under the BFL was to make it "cleaner" looking, but the mentioned changes do the exact opposite. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:35:31 PM EDT
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They made it worse IMHO. The selector stops are unnecessary and look stupid, and on both sides, it looks like someone rushed the design and tried to squeeze text in wherever they could, where are the original look very good, just like the magpul billet design. The reason so many wanted the AR15.com removed from under the BFL was to make it "cleaner" looking, but the mentioned changes do the exact opposite. I do agree with the selector stops. In fact after the new lower was proposed I even mentioned to them that a lot of guys didn't like them, their reaction was "what would anyone have against selector stops?" It was also in part to make it look closer to the original magpul lower that did have selector stops. To your point on the right side, I like the position of the text on the original lower, rather then being right above the pistol grip. However, I did not want to come off as aggressively picky when my main goal was to remove the AR15.com name from being written on the lower in three different places. I managed to get it removed in two places, which in my book is a win, even with the additional changes they made. |
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:38:23 PM EDT
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Yes, but IMHO the lower went from being very a very sleek design to "busy"
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Posted: 9/18/2014 3:41:38 PM EDT
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They look great.
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Posted: 9/18/2014 8:50:53 PM EDT
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Remove the picture/logo and I would buy one. I actually considered buying one and having a body guy try to fill in all that crap but it is too expensive to jack with. The first company that comes out with an ambi lower with only the required information printed discretely on the trigger guard or similar will make a killing. I would probably buy a few. Not trying to be Captain Obvious here, but you do realize the logo is part of the whole "Arfcom Lower" thing, right? Maybe you should buy an 80% billet and do it exactly to your heart's content, or buy something like this. http://www.blackweaponsarmory.com/ddles-vg-1-t2-billet-ar-15-lower-receiver.html |
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Posted: 9/19/2014 8:29:59 AM EDT
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Not trying to be Captain Obvious here, but you do realize the logo is part of the whole "Arfcom Lower" thing, right? Maybe you should buy an 80% billet and do it exactly to your heart's content, or buy something like this. http://www.blackweaponsarmory.com/ddles-vg-1-t2-billet-ar-15-lower-receiver.html Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Remove the picture/logo and I would buy one. I actually considered buying one and having a body guy try to fill in all that crap but it is too expensive to jack with. The first company that comes out with an ambi lower with only the required information printed discretely on the trigger guard or similar will make a killing. I would probably buy a few. Not trying to be Captain Obvious here, but you do realize the logo is part of the whole "Arfcom Lower" thing, right? Maybe you should buy an 80% billet and do it exactly to your heart's content, or buy something like this. http://www.blackweaponsarmory.com/ddles-vg-1-t2-billet-ar-15-lower-receiver.html I guessed you missed the part where I said AMBI as in ambidextrous bolt and mag release. I actually could even care less about the mag release but being able to release the bolt with my right index finger is nice. Yes I am aware that several companies make an ambi lower, and all of those companies put huge logos on the side of them. If one of them had a no logo option I would pick one up. |
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Posted: 9/26/2014 4:09:23 PM EDT
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What does the right side look like, now, on the "TX Edition"; blank?
They moved the manufacturer, location, and caliber to the left side (which used to be on the right-side magwell). So where is the serial number? Adding that text to the left side makes things so much more busy with the addition of the selector stops. |
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Posted: 9/26/2014 4:22:09 PM EDT
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What does the right side look like, now, on the "TX Edition"; blank? They moved the manufacturer, location, and caliber to the left side (which used to be on the right-side magwell). So where is the serial number? Adding that text to the left side makes things so much more busy with the addition of the selector stops. There is writing squeezed below the fire control pins on the other side.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/26/2014 6:23:18 PM EDT
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There is writing squeezed below the fire control pins on the other side. http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/30099/67254.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What does the right side look like, now, on the "TX Edition"; blank? They moved the manufacturer, location, and caliber to the left side (which used to be on the right-side magwell). So where is the serial number? Adding that text to the left side makes things so much more busy with the addition of the selector stops. There is writing squeezed below the fire control pins on the other side. http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/30099/67254.JPG Thanks for the pic. That's exactly what I wanted to know. |
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Posted: 9/26/2014 6:57:42 PM EDT
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Selector stops have no real use for a semi auto receiver. For an M16 receiver with a factory M16 selector, without the stops, there would be nothing to prevent the selectors from over-rotating. Battle Arms M16 selectors do not require selector stops, as the center has been redesigned to not over-rotate regardless of the stops' presence.
On a semi auto receiver, the selector center itself is responsible for limiting its rotation. One of the three changes Battle Arms specified and recommended was the removal of the stops, because they are unnecessary and therefore useless, and the forward stop is very close to the SAFE engraving, making it look somewhat busy. Their presence just means more machining on a billet receiver. The recommendations put forth by Battle Arms are just that, recommendations. In the end, if it looks good, then everyone is happy. |
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Posted: 9/26/2014 11:53:19 PM EDT
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Trust me I agree. All I wanted was for them to keep the lower the same, and remove the AR15.com name. Unfortunately they did that per my request, but then added things I did not request. Rather then piss them off by asking for additional changes, I let it go. I still like it more. I've also never understood selector stops. Except for the ones at a 90 degree angle like on Knights lowers, at least then they are both functional.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 12:45:06 AM EDT
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One of KAC's SR15 selector stops is functional, it prevents the selector from rotated to AUTO. If an M16 trigger group was installed, it wouldn't be able to rotate to that position
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Posted: 9/27/2014 1:24:23 AM EDT
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Trust me I agree. All I wanted was for them to keep the lower the same, and remove the AR15.com name. Unfortunately they did that per my request, but then added things I did not request. Rather then piss them off by asking for additional changes, I let it go. I still like it more. I've also never understood selector stops. Except for the ones at a 90 degree angle like on Knights lowers, at least then they are both functional. Unfortunetly the lower now is nothing like the once highly sought after Magpul Billet lowers. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 1:25:00 AM EDT
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One of KAC's SR15 selector stops is functional, it prevents the selector from rotated to AUTO. If an M16 trigger group was installed, it wouldn't be able to rotate to that position
But there's no reason for an M-16 trigger group to be installed in a semi-auto SR-15 lower. At least it gives the selector to stop against. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 1:27:46 AM EDT
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Unfortunetly the lower now is nothing like the once highly sought after Magpul Billet lowers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trust me I agree. All I wanted was for them to keep the lower the same, and remove the AR15.com name. Unfortunately they did that per my request, but then added things I did not request. Rather then piss them off by asking for additional changes, I let it go. I still like it more. I've also never understood selector stops. Except for the ones at a 90 degree angle like on Knights lowers, at least then they are both functional. Unfortunetly the lower now is nothing like the once highly sought after Magpul Billet lowers. How so? The magpul lowers had selector stops. The only difference is where they put some of the engraved words. From 5 yards away you wouldn't be Able to tell the difference |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 1:31:49 AM EDT
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How so? The magpul lowers had selector stops. The only difference is where they put some of the engraved words. From 5 yards away you wouldn't be Able to tell the difference Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trust me I agree. All I wanted was for them to keep the lower the same, and remove the AR15.com name. Unfortunately they did that per my request, but then added things I did not request. Rather then piss them off by asking for additional changes, I let it go. I still like it more. I've also never understood selector stops. Except for the ones at a 90 degree angle like on Knights lowers, at least then they are both functional. Unfortunetly the lower now is nothing like the once highly sought after Magpul Billet lowers. How so? The magpul lowers had selector stops. The only difference is where they put some of the engraved words. From 5 yards away you wouldn't be Able to tell the difference They were sleek, these are anything but now. SO busy.... |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 1:32:49 AM EDT
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The magpul lowers used 0-90 selectors, so the stops looked fine, but with a 45 degree selector they look retarded.
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Posted: 9/27/2014 1:33:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They look great. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/akethan/IMG_20140918_174728_780_zps7bff7913.jpg I agree |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 1:34:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2014 1:50:16 AM EDT
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I get what you're saying. This was my original design request:
With that being said. I am grateful they were willing to offer a second alternative. And the original is still offered. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 8:17:15 AM EDT
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The magpul lowers used 0-90 selectors, so the stops looked fine, but with a 45 degree selector they look retarded. http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20II/IMG_9906%201028%20WEVO%20Stick.jpg You don't have to use a 45 degree selector. 
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Posted: 9/27/2014 4:12:36 PM EDT
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You don't have to use a 45 degree selector. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/akethan/media/11112_zps26941b08.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/akethan/11112_zps26941b08.jpg</a> Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The magpul lowers used 0-90 selectors, so the stops looked fine, but with a 45 degree selector they look retarded. http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20II/IMG_9906%201028%20WEVO%20Stick.jpg You don't have to use a 45 degree selector. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/akethan/media/11112_zps26941b08.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/akethan/11112_zps26941b08.jpg</a> once you use a 45 degree selector, you become adicted  
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Posted: 9/27/2014 6:06:58 PM EDT
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The magpul lowers used 0-90 selectors, so the stops looked fine, but with a 45 degree selector they look retarded. http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Magpul%20II/IMG_9906%201028%20WEVO%20Stick.jpg You don't have to use a 45 degree selector. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/akethan/media/11112_zps26941b08.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v625/akethan/11112_zps26941b08.jpg</a> once you use a 45 degree selector, you become adicted Yep I have a couple with 45s. I thought I'd try Damage's new one. 
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Posted: 9/27/2014 8:25:52 PM EDT
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I get what you're saying. This was my original design request: http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc432/Tengo1pics/27710.jpg With that being said. I am grateful they were willing to offer a second alternative. And the original is still offered. I would buy this. I actually prefer the wall of text (of all the text needed) on the right-side magwell like on the original. |
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Posted: 9/27/2014 11:03:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/28/2014 2:04:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryDamn that looks nice dpmmm |
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Posted: 9/29/2014 10:44:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn that looks nice dpmmm Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn that looks nice dpmmm Thanks, now I just have to get a few more parts and get it put together |
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