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I snagged it hopefully just waiting on reply.
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Originally Posted By GreasyEasy:
Don't be afraid to ask for help, there are many great MRP Anonymous groups out there. I was working the program perfectly, until I fell for the ole' $449 MLR chassis. Many people still believe the MRP's on the fly QD barrel design is the main benefit to the design. Personally, I'd put that feature well before several more important ones like ridigity, heat dissipation, and barrel hookup design. Your collection of awesome MRPs, along with numerous others in this thread kind of bears this fact out. I love cleaning MRPs due to their design allowing me to clean the barrel by itself. The QD barrel design is much more useful in the MWS large frame in my book. I can see buying one MWS, and a 6.5cm/16" .308/13.5" .308 barrel options for it. Congrats on having a full brothel of MRPs, they're all fantastic looking setups. ETA: You need another rifle length View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GreasyEasy:
Don't be afraid to ask for help, there are many great MRP Anonymous groups out there. I was working the program perfectly, until I fell for the ole' $449 MLR chassis. Many people still believe the MRP's on the fly QD barrel design is the main benefit to the design. Personally, I'd put that feature well before several more important ones like ridigity, heat dissipation, and barrel hookup design. Your collection of awesome MRPs, along with numerous others in this thread kind of bears this fact out. I love cleaning MRPs due to their design allowing me to clean the barrel by itself. The QD barrel design is much more useful in the MWS large frame in my book. I can see buying one MWS, and a 6.5cm/16" .308/13.5" .308 barrel options for it. Congrats on having a full brothel of MRPs, they're all fantastic looking setups. ETA: You need another rifle length Originally Posted By Outrider:
Nice. Seems like you are due for a large frame version! |
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Originally Posted By jglock53:
I snagged it hopefully just waiting on reply. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Look forward to seeing what you do with it. Originally Posted By hammermill290: Thanks! I'll have my second MLR next week. But, for the first time I have more uppers than barrels so I need to figure out what gets swapped around. Or just get another barrel. Originally Posted By thehun06: I agree 100%...there are many other benefits of the MRP/MWS upper design like what you've pointed out. I run a MWS with a pinned 13.5" barrel and a 16" LW ADCO contoured barrel...both 7.62x51...along with my MARS-L in 5.56... |
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Originally Posted By GreasyEasy: Don't be afraid to ask for help, there are many great MRP Anonymous groups out there. I was working the program perfectly, until I fell for the ole' $449 MLR chassis. Many people still believe the MRP's on the fly QD barrel design is the main benefit to the design. Personally, I'd put that feature well before several more important ones like ridigity, heat dissipation, and barrel hookup design. Your collection of awesome MRPs, along with numerous others in this thread kind of bears this fact out. I love cleaning MRPs due to their design allowing me to clean the barrel by itself. The QD barrel design is much more useful in the MWS large frame in my book. I can see buying one MWS, and a 6.5cm/16" .308/13.5" .308 barrel options for it. Congrats on having a full brothel of MRPs, they're all fantastic looking setups. ETA: You need another rifle length View Quote I think one of the biggest benefits that doesn't get talked about too much is the heat dissipation aspect of the design...along with the barrel lock up makes the MRP/MWS in DI much more reliable in my opinion...less stress...less heat...= a better and longer performing firearm... I run a MWS with a pinned 13.5" barrel and a 16" LW ADCO contoured barrel...both 7.62x51...along with my MARS-L in 5.56... |
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Originally Posted By thehun06: I agree 100%...there are many other benefits of the MRP/MWS upper design like what you've pointed out. I think one of the biggest benefits that doesn't get talked about too much is the heat dissipation aspect of the design...along with the barrel lock up makes the MRP/MWS in DI much more reliable in my opinion...less stress...less heat...= a better and longer performing firearm... I run a MWS with a pinned 13.5" barrel and a 16" LW ADCO contoured barrel...both 7.62x51...along with my MARS-L in 5.56... View Quote Man, I love this thread. Just a bunch of fanboys doing fanboy things talking about the best god damn rifles out there |
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Here is one of mine. I just need to find a better way to secure the wire for the light. I also need to figure out how to take better pictures.
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Originally Posted By AZ2A: On the topic of heat dissipation, I ran a few mags suppressed full auto with my MRP upper and the handguard wasn't too hot to touch! My BCM MCMRs start burning me after some spirited semi auto shooting haha. Man, I love this thread. Just a bunch of fanboys doing fanboy things talking about the best damn rifles out there View Quote |
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Originally Posted By jglock53:
Here is one of mine. I just need to find a better way to secure the wire for the light. I also need to figure out how to take better pictures. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/374260/IMG_7268_jpg-804264.JPG View Quote I see you got Larue clips on there, and maybe even the ones that are designed to keep the wires held to the rail. I've never used them, so I don't know if they are any good, however I just use black, rather thin zip ties, and zip the wire in two places to the rail. Been doing it this way for years, and with many different setups. |
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Originally Posted By GreasyEasy:
Did LMT give you tracking or something with regards to knowing your gonna get the MLR next week? You got good problems my friend View Quote |
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This is not the hammermill you're looking for.
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Originally Posted By jglock53:
Here is one of mine. I just need to find a better way to secure the wire for the light. I also need to figure out how to take better pictures. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/374260/IMG_7268_jpg-804264.JPG View Quote This is what I use for wire management...simple...works great...won't deteriorate on you...affordable...plus in a pinch makes great fire starters... https://www.ebay.com/itm/332636577683 |
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thanks for the link. I can kill two birds with one stone and use those for sling management also.
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Originally Posted By hammermill290: No, they didn't send me any notification. I just checked my USPS account under the Informed Delivery tab and it shows what mail and packages are on the way along with any updates on the progress through their facilities. I'm showing something from Milan, IL should be delivered Monday so I have to assume it's my MLR order. View Quote ETA: your my hero for the day....I just filled out the informed delivery feature, and it's like a whole new world opened up. I had no clue about that. Anyways....got a Rapid Express package coming from Milan showing delivery by 1/12 Thanks again for enlightening me. |
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Got my MARS-L yesterday for my MLR. Very nice lower. Has an itty-bitty scratch just below the safety. Other then that its finish is amazing compaired to LMT of old. I remember the PURPLE Days. Upper has one spot on it where the grayish graphite internal finish came out. What I don't like. While I think the true ambi-lower is awesome, ambi bolt release sticks out quite a ways. This could possibly bump and break off. DUNNO. Like it though. THe left side magazine release has a cast mark. Not a big deal. The magazine well thin stamp mark on the left side of the upper and lower receiver do not line up. They are off by 1/8". Purely aesthetic though. Love it overall. Just need a barrel. My MWS Upper is still MIA. Dunno if the picture link works. |
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LMT went with a HK-like anodizing on the newest guns.
My new MRP upper still has a slight purple haze...my MARS-L is perfect...no blems...if you aren't satisfied with it...call LMT... |
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Originally Posted By Xskier45:
https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l154/mikecleonard/20181021_152731_zps6huzlxwg.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Xskier45:
https://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l154/mikecleonard/20181021_152731_zps6huzlxwg.jpg Originally Posted By Sabre675:
http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/Kiloecho1776/media/IMG_7918_zpsfu9u09fo.jpg.html?o=0 Got my MARS-L yesterday for my MLR. Very nice lower. Has an itty-bitty scratch just below the safety. Other then that its finish is amazing compaired to LMT of old. I remember the PURPLE Days. Upper has one spot on it where the grayish graphite internal finish came out. What I don't like. While I think the true ambi-lower is awesome, ambi bolt release sticks out quite a ways. This could possibly bump and break off. DUNNO. Like it though. THe left side magazine release has a cast mark. Not a big deal. The magazine well thin stamp mark on the left side of the upper and lower receiver do not line up. They are off by 1/8". Purely aesthetic though. Love it overall. Just need a barrel. My MWS Upper is still MIA. Dunno if the picture link works. Here is your picture brother, congrats of your new hardware. Looks great in the pic. |
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Thanks for the advice fellas and thank you for posting my picture. Truthfully I’m fine with both products. The scratch, will only slightly annoy me. It can be seen in the photo but it is minuscule. The mold mark I am referring to is the wide vertical band on the left side of the magazine well that continues up onto the upper receiver next to the white numerical role mark... no way to remedy an out of spec factory forge. If mine has it, they all do.
So much work and investment in front of me to get these rifles where I want them... they’ll be sweet... My KAC desires don’t exist anymore ... Really want some rail scales... can’t wait to see some of greasys photos |
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Was reading an article by the Des Moines Registry about LMT's move to IA. It talked about the Estonia contract and the move and new location. But I found this quote by Matt Pruitt, LMT's sales and marketing director, interesting. He said:
"This is our first time in Estonia. As a company, we are in 45 countries in the world." https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2019/01/06/lewis-machine-tool-estonian-defence-forces-contract-eastern-iowa/2498401002/ Does LMT really have contracts with 45 countries around the world? Not bad for a company that only has 128 employees and has won three big military contracts with the UK, NZ and now Estonia. |
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Originally Posted By Sabre675:
http://s1378.photobucket.com/user/Kiloecho1776/media/IMG_7918_zpsfu9u09fo.jpg.html?o=0 Got my MARS-L yesterday for my MLR. Very nice lower. Has an itty-bitty scratch just below the safety. Other then that its finish is amazing compared to LMT of old. I remember the PURPLE Days. Upper has one spot on it where the grayish graphite internal finish came out. What I don't like. While I think the true ambi-lower is awesome, ambi bolt release sticks out quite a ways. This could possibly bump and break off. DUNNO. Like it though. THe left side magazine release has a cast mark. Not a big deal. The magazine well thin stamp mark on the left side of the upper and lower receiver do not line up. They are off by 1/8". Purely aesthetic though. Love it overall. Just need a barrel. My MWS Upper is still MIA. Dunno if the picture link works. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:
Was reading an article by the Des Moines Registry about LMT's move to IA. It talked about the Estonia contract and the move and new location. But I found this quote by Matt Pruitt, LMT's sales and marketing director, interesting. He said: "This is our first time in Estonia. As a company, we are in 45 countries in the world." https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2019/01/06/lewis-machine-tool-estonian-defence-forces-contract-eastern-iowa/2498401002/ Does LMT really have contracts with 45 countries around the world? Not bad for a company that only has 128 employees and has won three big military contracts with the UK, NZ and now Estonia. View Quote |
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Probably a lot of police departments and agencies included in that number as well.
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Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger
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LMT is so secretive that it's always been a vault in terms of public info about their dealings. I felt like I used to have a direct line to the LMT God in the past by being friends with an employee of some importance....but it's Area51 ever since he left.
Daddy gets to party now, as I type this my mail lady just delivered the barrel, and the LMT package |
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Failure has far too many fathers. -MMB
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^^^^^^SICK!^^^^^^ I still can't decide on the minidot or Honeycomb pattern....
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Originally Posted By LMT_87:
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The two spares I picked up for my MWS in 2015 are solid bolts....FWIW...
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Solid bolts on my new uppers too....
They switched over to them I think around 2014-2015 |
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Hmm. My CQBR has one of each.
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Originally Posted By jtdam24:
This is a nasty pic @lmt_87 View Quote Originally Posted By GreasyEasy: I was down to the honeycomb and matrix. Some reviews that had said they tried numerous models stated the matrix had the best grip. It was 50/50, and I went w/ honeycomb because outside of LMT parts, this build will be all KAC, and I thought the honeycombs are like KAC dimples My early take aways from them are that they weigh nothing, they're paper thin, and seem to have great tactile feedback and grip in hand. Tech question: When did LMT switch the barrel bolts to the new ones.....the old ones seemed unique, and they had been designed to shear/break at a certain threshold far before the level of torque required to crush the barrel clamshell portion of the chassis. The hollow end seemed to be part of this design in my head, however I have no clue. This is very interesting. New one on left.....old one is on right, ( 5 other chassis I own, including a MWS one have these old ones). https://i.imgur.com/Rqx3nFO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IlUOueW.jpg I concur sir, the man has a bonified brothel of monolithic goodness View Quote |
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Probably the Estonian piston MWS might make an appearance at Shot.
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Thanks for the data points on the bolts guys. Timeline makes since, as I haven't bought a new MRP/MWS after the 2014/15 time period.
What's the theory behind the Estonian piston MWS? Maybe the Estonians loved the L129A1 type config., however didn't like it suppressed. Then maybe LMT developed this specific model to address that concern. The 13.5" MWS barrel was originally made and only sold to the Brits....yet the L129A1 is issued with a 5R 16" SST barrel??? LMT did some extensive testing on a uniquely configured F/A, suppressed 13.5" MWS....yet nobody knows officially who requested those. Those two facts lead some like myself to believe perhaps the request was made by SAS. The reason I say this, is because it seems LMT is quite willing to take an existing model rifle, and tweak it specifically for different .mils. Another example is the Kiwi MRP having a unique bayo lug barrel. |
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Originally Posted By GreasyEasy:
Thanks for the data points on the bolts guys. Timeline makes since, as I haven't bought a new MRP/MWS after the 2014/15 time period. What's the theory behind the Estonian piston MWS? Maybe the Estonians loved the L129A1 type config., however didn't like it suppressed. Then maybe LMT developed this specific model to address that concern. The 13.5" MWS barrel was originally made and only sold to the Brits....yet the L129A1 is issued with a 5R 16" SST barrel??? LMT did some extensive testing on a uniquely configured F/A, suppressed 13.5" MWS....yet nobody knows officially who requested those. Those two facts lead some like myself to believe perhaps the request was made by SAS. The reason I say this, is because it seems LMT is quite willing to take an existing model rifle, and tweak it specifically for different .mils. Another example is the Kiwi MRP having a unique bayo lug barrel. View Quote |
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On the topic of MLOK Rail Segments....Those of you that have mounted an ATLAS or a Harris, what is the synopsis for mounting? Trusted brands of segments? Is a 3 segment sufficient? Any thoughts on the Kinetic Development group segments? I don't foresee running much more then a bipod on these two rifles, maybe a torch down the road....
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Originally Posted By GreasyEasy:
Thanks for the data points on the bolts guys. Timeline makes since, as I haven't bought a new MRP/MWS after the 2014/15 time period. What's the theory behind the Estonian piston MWS? Maybe the Estonians loved the L129A1 type config., however didn't like it suppressed. Then maybe LMT developed this specific model to address that concern. The 13.5" MWS barrel was originally made and only sold to the Brits....yet the L129A1 is issued with a 5R 16" SST barrel??? LMT did some extensive testing on a uniquely configured F/A, suppressed 13.5" MWS....yet nobody knows officially who requested those. Those two facts lead some like myself to believe perhaps the request was made by SAS. The reason I say this, is because it seems LMT is quite willing to take an existing model rifle, and tweak it specifically for different .mils. Another example is the Kiwi MRP having a unique bayo lug barrel. View Quote |
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So looking to see if this has happend to anyone else. Bought a MRP CQB from Brownells and a LMT FA BCG during black Friday last year. Sent the barrel out chop down to 14.5. Finally got to the range yesterday. Shot about 10 rounds unsupressed to sight in my scope. Then starting shooting supressed, after about another 15 rounds the BCG wouldn't go into battery. Short story found the gas tube bent and the gas key hole has a slight ding. I've dry fired this rifle several times and never had any bind up. I've never seen anything like this.
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Never seen that, dont even know how the hell that would happen
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Dang that's crazy. I wonder if LMT would take a look at the assembled upper and find which component is at fault. I would hate to replace the gas tube just to end up doing it again.
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Originally Posted By foughtstrong:
So looking to see if this has happend to anyone else. Bought a MRP CQB from Brownells and a LMT FA BCG during black Friday last year. Sent the barrel out chop down to 14.5. Finally got to the range yesterday. Shot about 10 rounds unsupressed to sight in my scope. Then starting shooting supressed, after about another 15 rounds the BCG wouldn't go into battery. Short story found the gas tube bent and the gas key hole has a slight ding. I've dry fired this rifle several times and never had any bind up. I've never seen anything like this. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/436858/IMG_0715_jpeg-806388.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/436858/IMG_0716_jpeg-806389.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By emtothedee: This just happened to me but with my gen 1 rifle length chassis. I just got it back from lmt. The issue in mine was there was no bushing? Replaced the gas tube for me too. Fortunately I discovered it when trying to send the bolt home, and not while firing it. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:
https://i.imgur.com/A05o50r.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hyv38hG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gX1ptRf.jpg LMT family picture. Plan is to sell off the Aero Precision pistol lower once I can get a stripped MARS-L lower for a good price and make that my pistol lower (eventually e-File form 1 it when that come back on line and government opens again). LMT: Because Failure Is Not An Option. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By emtothedee: This just happened to me but with my gen 1 rifle length chassis. I just got it back from lmt. The issue in mine was there was no bushing? Replaced the gas tube for me too. Fortunately I discovered it when trying to send the bolt home, and not while firing it. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:
https://i.imgur.com/A05o50r.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hyv38hG.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gX1ptRf.jpg LMT family picture. Plan is to sell off the Aero Precision pistol lower once I can get a stripped MARS-L lower for a good price and make that my pistol lower (eventually e-File form 1 it when that come back on line and government opens again). LMT: Because Failure Is Not An Option. View Quote One interesting thing I've noticed on this new chassis, is that LMT changed they ANO process or something. It's super nice, but it's more matte and less smooth than the pure black shinier ANO of years past. KAC seems to have done this too. I have QD cupped lowers with the pure black ANO finish, and then non QD lowers with the more matte, less smooth ANO finish like on this new MLR chassis. One thing that hasn't changed is how well every LMT chassis mates with every KAC IWS lower I own. LMT tops on LMT bottoms in my experience are almost like one piece when joined...takes a bullet to punch the pin usually. LMT tops of KAC lowers is close, but not as tight. They are like the goldilocks of upper/lower fitment eta: Oh....and why did LMT not put a rear QD cup on the right side of the chassis? Kind of seems like Satan hand discrimination if you ask me |
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Originally Posted By jtdam24:
Quality gear, awesome pics, great work! View Quote Originally Posted By GreasyEasy: That's a awesome pair of MRPs there, and one could handle just about any situation b/t the those two rifles. One interesting thing I've noticed on this new chassis, is that LMT changed they ANO process or something. It's super nice, but it's more matte and less smooth than the pure black shinier ANO of years past. KAC seems to have done this too. I have QD cupped lowers with the pure black ANO finish, and then non QD lowers with the more matte, less smooth ANO finish like on this new MLR chassis. One thing that hasn't changed is how well every LMT chassis mates with every KAC IWS lower I own. LMT tops on LMT bottoms in my experience are almost like one piece when joined...takes a bullet to punch the pin usually. LMT tops of KAC lowers is close, but not as tight. They are like the goldilocks of upper/lower fitment eta: Oh....and why did LMT not put a rear QD cup on the right side of the chassis? Kind of seems like Satan hand discrimination if you ask me View Quote I have also noticed that about the LMT upper and lower sitting very snug together. The tightest fit of any AR I have ever owned. Like you said, even more than KAC. The LMT I need to take a bullet or a punch to get the upper off the lower. Amazing how tight the tolerances are. I love it, like you said it is almost as if the upper and lower are one unit, that is how tight they are. A MLC upper receiver and an 11.5" and/or 14.5" MRP barrels are on my lookout for 2019. Would love if LMT offered 6.5 Grendel offerings. |
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@Sabre675
Look at Badger Ordnance. They have a modified Harris bipod attached to a Mlok mount. Very slick and eliminates the need for the Pic rail segment. It's next on my buy list. Have been using a Magpul segment with Harris/Larue setup. The Badger should way less and be less cluttered. All my rails are now Mlok so easy to move from one to the other. https://www.badgerordnance.com/tactical-rifle-enhancements/lpbk-enhanced-bipod-with-mlok-mount.html |
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Besides the MRPs, the best thing about these badness threads has always been the passion shown by fellow MRP owners
I promised myself I wouldn't cannibalize other builds in order to build this new rifle, so this is just some mocking up with a SBR'd lower to get an idea of the feel and balance. |
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