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Posted: 12/3/2023 12:08:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: That's how I remember it being said once. A pre 2014 colt 1/7 twist barrel can be an extremely accurate barrel. Current production Colt 14.5" SOCOM barrels are excellent also. |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 3:00:38 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: Current production Colt 14.5" SOCOM barrels are excellent also. If we're not doing mag dumps then the 14.5" Gov is too..................... |
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Posted: 12/3/2023 3:42:16 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: If we're not doing mag dumps then the 14.5" Gov is too..................... Lol...true too. |
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Posted: 12/5/2023 10:00:37 PM EDT
[#4]
Anyone got a lead on a 2.5-10x24?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2023 12:04:15 PM EDT
[#5]
planning to post a knights medium ff ras to the EE in the next day or so just in case anyone was on the lookout. pn 20214. thanks!
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2023 9:04:21 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: That's how I remember it being said once. A pre 2014 colt 1/7 twist barrel can be an extremely accurate barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Originally Posted By kemp: i might be misremembering because this was a long time ago, like ten years or so, but i think one of the KAC people here once mentioned that back in the day KAC advised that the unit spend their time and money on finding good match ammo to run from factory barrels, rather than messing with match barrels like dev was doing. That's how I remember it being said once. A pre 2014 colt 1/7 twist barrel can be an extremely accurate barrel. 16"? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2023 9:43:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KTMmx001: 16"? My experience yes. But the barrels would have been 14.5" |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2023 12:14:09 PM EDT
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/11/2023 8:02:31 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: My experience yes. But the barrels would have been 14.5" Interesting article from Unit member Daryl Holland and his 16" RECCE. Daryl Holland Unit RECCE Team Member |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 4:07:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Subpar]
[#10]
Just for posterity's sake or anyone having issues in the future, there was some talk about low profile gas blocks. Those surplus recce gas blocks are long gone, as are the KAC ones. I was using a MK12 (I think) gas block and there was clearance issues. The bottom and top were nearly touching and definitely were with any pressure on the rail.
I ended up buying a Centurion LPGB, as that looked the smallest in internet pics. Here's some comparisons for anyone that may be having the same issue. The Centurion is the shiny, smaller one if it wasn't obvious:     Plenty of clearance now. The rifle is no longer clone correct though, so I'll just go fuck myself. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/15/2023 4:40:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: Just for posterity's sake or anyone having issues in the future, there was some talk about low profile gas blocks. Those surplus recce gas blocks are long gone, as are the KAC ones. I was using a MK12 (I think) gas block and there was clearance issues. The bottom and top were nearly touching and definitely were with any pressure on the rail. I ended up buying a Centurion LPGB, as that looked the smallest in internet pics. Here's some comparisons for anyone that may be having the same issue. The Centurion is the shiny, smaller one if it wasn't obvious: https://i.imgur.com/B384zNv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FbkASOa.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AzvpkGH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xsMHNpz.jpg Plenty of clearance now. The rifle is no longer clone correct though, so I'll just go fuck myself. LOL, mine is Aero so we're both fucked. |
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Posted: 12/15/2023 10:38:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: LOL, mine is Aero so we're both fucked. I too use an Aero parkerized gas block. Works great. |
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Posted: 12/16/2023 9:17:16 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: Just for posterity's sake or anyone having issues in the future, there was some talk about low profile gas blocks. Those surplus recce gas blocks are long gone, as are the KAC ones. I was using a MK12 (I think) gas block and there was clearance issues. The bottom and top were nearly touching and definitely were with any pressure on the rail. I ended up buying a Centurion LPGB, as that looked the smallest in internet pics. Here's some comparisons for anyone that may be having the same issue. The Centurion is the shiny, smaller one if it wasn't obvious: https://i.imgur.com/B384zNv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FbkASOa.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AzvpkGH.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xsMHNpz.jpg Plenty of clearance now. The rifle is no longer clone correct though, so I'll just go fuck myself. I’ll be that guy, unless you got an m4 lower with a happy switch, then no one’s is. Don’t think anyone will give you shit over a gas block. Especially since you can’t get the one you need. And if they do…I’ll happily fight that battle.  |
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Posted: 12/17/2023 9:23:57 PM EDT
[#14]
I've been using CMMGs on my builds for the past few years. Easy to find, unbranded, and as low-pro as they come.
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Posted: 12/21/2023 12:31:41 PM EDT
[#15]
Have the 15.1" NSW ever been seen with a NXS 2.5-10x42, or just the x24?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/21/2023 4:17:43 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Three0h8: Have the 15.1" NSW ever been seen with a NXS 2.5-10x42, or just the x24? Never seen one but honestly we have only seen like 5 of them so you never know. It's a better optic than the x24 just not as good looking. |
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Posted: 12/21/2023 8:42:20 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Never seen one but honestly we have only seen like 5 of them so you never know. It's a better optic than the x24 just not as good looking. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Originally Posted By Three0h8: Have the 15.1" NSW ever been seen with a NXS 2.5-10x42, or just the x24? Never seen one but honestly we have only seen like 5 of them so you never know. It's a better optic than the x24 just not as good looking. I got called yesterday and told that my back ordered RAS is on the way, and have the x42 already. I saw at some point the x42 was talked about in here, but I never saw a picture with one. No worries, and thanks for letting me know! |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/21/2023 9:19:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Three0h8: I got called yesterday and told that my back ordered RAS is on the way, and have the x42 already. I saw at some point the x42 was talked about in here, but I never saw a picture with one. No worries, and thanks for letting me know! Post a pic if you're gonna throw it together! Congrats on the RAS! |
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Posted: 12/29/2023 10:14:42 PM EDT
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2023 10:25:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Three0h8: 16” barrel was sent to ADCO for the chop, and my RAS showed up today https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/468563/IMG_3165_jpeg-3075371.JPG Hell yea! I kick myself for not getting a knurled can everyone I see one. |
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Posted: 12/29/2023 10:42:53 PM EDT
[#21]
Got my KAC RAS earlier this week along with the bipod adapter and 600m irons.
Thinking it’s time for a Mod 1 to go with the 0 and H, but I might be swayed to do a recce. Which is easier to source correct parts/glass for, the recce or Mod 1?  Attached File Attached File |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2023 10:51:18 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Got my KAC RAS earlier this week along with the bipod adapter and 600m irons. Thinking it’s time for a Mod 1 to go with the 0 and H, but I might be swayed to do a recce. Which is easier to source correct parts/glass for, the recce or Mod 1? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/302703/IMG_5358_jpeg-3075431.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/302703/IMG_5359_jpeg-3075434.JPG Recce uses less parts but the x24 is very difficult to come across under $2,500. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 7:56:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Recce uses less parts but the x24 is very difficult to come across under $2,500. x32 isn’t as expensive. Can usually be had for around $1200. I think the only real hard part for the OG is the 249f. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 1:07:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: x32 isn’t as expensive. Can usually be had for around $1200. I think the only real hard part for the OG is the 249f. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013: Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Recce uses less parts but the x24 is very difficult to come across under $2,500. x32 isn’t as expensive. Can usually be had for around $1200. I think the only real hard part for the OG is the 249f. Good to know. I’d be running an OCM5, so the rarity of the BE 249f shouldn’t be an issue, and I have an extra CTR stock laying around. Hmmmm |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 12:38:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JSchell1309]
[#25]
Well shit. Compass Lake just posted that they are shutting down shop.
Whats the next best source for a quality 15.1" barrel? 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2024 1:47:58 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309: Well shit. Compass Lake just posted that they are shutting down shop. Whats the next best source for a quality 15.1" barrel? https://i.imgur.com/bC0jIqt.jpeg FJB |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 2:57:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AWHAILYEAH]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: FJB MF’s better finish my two barrels ordered in October!! ETA: Got a call from Hunter I believe and both my 15.1's will be in the next run as he finishes existing orders...... @Subpar 6 left as of now...................................KAC Gas Block https://www.operationparts.com/kac-knights-armament-low-profile-gas-block-ar15-id-0-750/?utm_source=instocknotify&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=instocknotify |
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Posted: 1/4/2024 3:49:34 AM EDT
[#28]
Supposedly CAG at the tactical games. Note the SiCO FH.
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Posted: 1/4/2024 7:48:47 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: MF’s better finish my two barrels ordered in October!! ETA: Got a call from Hunter I believe and both my 15.1's will be in the next run as he finishes existing orders...... @Subpar 6 left as of now...................................KAC Gas Block https://www.operationparts.com/kac-knights-armament-low-profile-gas-block-ar15-id-0-750/?utm_source=instocknotify&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=instocknotify Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Originally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: FJB MF’s better finish my two barrels ordered in October!! ETA: Got a call from Hunter I believe and both my 15.1's will be in the next run as he finishes existing orders...... @Subpar 6 left as of now...................................KAC Gas Block https://www.operationparts.com/kac-knights-armament-low-profile-gas-block-ar15-id-0-750/?utm_source=instocknotify&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=instocknotify Thanks! Only KAC could charge $130 for a gas block and not even include a roll pin. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2024 11:20:42 AM EDT
[#30]
Congrats on the RAS! Where did you have it back ordered at?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2024 4:13:23 PM EDT
[#31]
This thing is a menace to 700m
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CA, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2024 4:36:21 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kemp: Supposedly CAG at the tactical games. Note the SiCO FH. https://i.imgur.com/KpMBFfjl.png Nice shot. I built a 14.5 CAG based on a few pictures I have collected over the years. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:42:43 PM EDT
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Question? Will my 16” Douglas H barrel have the clearance for the can using a URX 3.1 in the 13.5” flavor? Or even a CLE Douglas 15.1 Recce?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2024 8:54:27 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Question? Will my 16” Douglas H barrel have the clearance for the can using a URX 3.1 in the 13.5” flavor? Or even a CLE Douglas 15.1 Recce? No. Basically subtract 3" from barrel length to get rail length that will work with an AEM5. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:04:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: No. Basically subtract 3" from barrel length to get rail length that will work with an AEM5. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Question? Will my 16” Douglas H barrel have the clearance for the can using a URX 3.1 in the 13.5” flavor? Or even a CLE Douglas 15.1 Recce? No. Basically subtract 3" from barrel length to get rail length that will work with an AEM5. Well shit!! Guess I’ll buy another PRI rail and build another H and use a my B E Myers 249F on one of my 15.1’s just for a badass looking rifle |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 5:43:03 AM EDT
[#36]
Just to clarify in order to bring the 15.1 Douglas to length it requires an Adco style or actual Adco KAC Spacer before the OEMB? I've got plenty of the 1/2 x 28 ones but my other CLE Douglas 15.1 is 6mm Arc so I'm a be needing a 5/8 x 24! I'm a right in what I think I read or bassackwards? Thanks fellas
@Bigbore I see you guys are out of the KAC Spacer for 5/8 x 28 can ya cut me on or two up??? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2024 5:56:42 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Just to clarify in order to bring the 15.1 Douglas to length it requires an Adco style or actual Adco KAC Spacer before the OEMB? I've got plenty of the 1/2 x 28 ones but my other CLE Douglas 15.1 is 6mm Arc so I'm a be needing a 5/8 x 24! I'm a right in what I think I read or bassackwards? Thanks fellas @Bigbore I see you guys are out of the KAC Spacer for 5/8 x 28 can ya cut me on or two up??? You just need a crush washer. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 6:08:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AWHAILYEAH]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: You just need a crush washer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: Just to clarify in order to bring the 15.1 Douglas to length it requires an Adco style or actual Adco KAC Spacer before the OEMB? I've got plenty of the 1/2 x 28 ones but my other CLE Douglas 15.1 is 6mm Arc so I'm a be needing a 5/8 x 24! I'm a right in what I think I read or bassackwards? Thanks fellas @Bigbore I see you guys are out of the KAC Spacer for 5/8 x 28 can ya cut me on or two up??? You just need a crush washer. @Eyekahn Man I heard crush washers are the debil if I plan on purchasing my AEM5 this spring? Need it suppressor ready/functional and will be p/w’d So talk to me boss I know you know this whole damn thread is your baby so really just a crush? or maybe a Peel? BTW Eyekahn I have two of those CLE Douglas 15.1's just came of the line he called yesterday so 1 is going to be built into the NSWG w KAC and the other will be a Block II Recce with Ron's NSW Collar already purchased..... Just gotta decide which will get the 6 ARC and the other will get the 556.............. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 8:01:22 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: @Eyekahn Man I heard crush washers are the debil  Crush Washer VS Shim |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 8:15:57 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote History@bigbore so what you saying is it’s all good to crush? What about getting my 15.1” to legal p/w 16.1”? Is that spacer required? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2024 1:39:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#41]
Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: @bigbore so what you saying is it’s all good to crush? What about getting my 15.1” to legal p/w 16.1”? Is that spacer required? You just need a crush washer. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 1:53:35 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: You just need a crush washer. I got that my brother but no need for a spacer right? The AEMB with crush washer is good to go with a p/w |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 3:50:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: I got that my brother but no need for a spacer right? The AEMB with crush washer is good to go with a p/w For a 15.1 to reach >16”? I’m almost positive that will get you over 16” with a p&w. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2024 5:16:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: I got that my brother but no need for a spacer right? The AEMB with crush washer is good to go with a p/w 15.1" - .6" + 2.18" + .15" = 16.83" |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 9:54:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AWHAILYEAH]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: You just need a crush washer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: @bigbore so what you saying is it’s all good to crush? What about getting my 15.1” to legal p/w 16.1”? Is that spacer required? You just need a crush washer. Dude I worked a 16 hr shift then stayed up all night left the house at 7 this morning and still working I was Pete and repeat but thanks!! I’m good as I got email today my barrels finally ship tomorrow hot dayum ETA: just awaiting Dennis to call with my RAS he says are in production as we speak |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2024 7:57:31 AM EDT
[#46]
Years ago when a friend first got me into ARs, I had a RAS, 249f, and the Docter site in the super rare Wilcox mount. Sold them all.
I'll always regret that. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2024 3:17:51 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subpar: Thanks! Only KAC could charge $130 for a gas block and not even include a roll pin. LOL That's true. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2024 12:14:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
[#48]
Been doing some shooting for groups again as my primers ran out and needed to test a new brand.
I noticed I was really struggling to keep focus on the reticle at 100 shooting for groups. I kind of noticed it when shooting at distance a few weeks ago but just shrugged it off to the x24 just being what it is compared to a serious precision optic I had been shooting on my bolt gun. Well, the homogear was the culprit. I really thought the objective was clearing it but not so much. It was basically blurring out the bottom of my reticle. I moved it over to the starboard side and holy shit the x24 is clear as day again and the reticle is nice and crisp all the way down. I guess the lack of parallax adjustment and having that peq obscure some of the FOV was messing with me.  Back to shooting sub moa with new primers.  Also, the homogear has held zero so far. About 300 rounds on it. If it starts to shift I'll crack it open and beef it up. And by holding zero I mean hitting a 6" plate at 50-100. Running an infinite zero so need to rezero how that it's flipped. |
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Posted: 1/29/2024 3:43:08 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Been doing some shooting for groups again as my primers ran out and needed to test a new brand. I noticed I was really struggling to keep focus on the reticle at 100 shooting for groups. I kind of noticed it when shooting at distance a few weeks ago but just shrugged it off to the x24 just being what it is compared to a serious precision optic I had been shooting on my bolt gun. Well, the homogear was the culprit. I really thought the objective was clearing it but not so much. It was basically blurring out the bottom of my reticle. I moved it over to the starboard side and holy shit the x24 is clear as day again and the reticle is nice and crisp all the way down. I guess the lack of parallax adjustment and having that peq obscure some of the FOV was messing with me. https://i.imgur.com/bVehz26.jpeg Back to shooting sub moa with new primers. https://i.imgur.com/ZKvrAGt.jpeg Also, the homogear has held zero so far. About 300 rounds on it. If it starts to shift I'll crack it open and beef it up. And by holding zero I mean hitting a 6" plate at 50-100. Running an infinite zero so need to rezero how that it's flipped. @Eyekahn For the NSW RECCE the lower should be an A2 correct? I can’t tell the difference between an A2 and M4 but the A1 profile stands out |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/29/2024 4:31:16 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: @Eyekahn For the NSW RECCE the lower should be an A2 correct? I can’t tell the difference between an A2 and M4 but the A1 profile stands out M4 |
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