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Posted: 9/29/2016 2:58:37 PM EDT
I bought these as 7075 Forged Blems for a whopping $40 each

In the online pics it showed a keyhole (Cero, yes?) in the usual place but the ones I received had no markings anywhere I looked on the rear takedown pin lug first and I couldn't find anything anywhere

I think these look just fine for $40 other than some chatter marks beneath the ejection port which don't bother me at all

I just wonder if these are really 7075 ..I searched how to tell the diff between forged and cast but google gave me nothing the same for how to tell 7075 and 6061

Does anyone have a clue what I have?



Link Posted: 9/29/2016 3:07:15 PM EDT
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Who did you buy them from?  Kind of difficult to tell who actually made them without a forge mark.  Without knowing who made them, then it becomes difficult to know what material they were made from.
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 3:14:51 PM EDT
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Bought them here (Still some left) https://moriartiarmaments.com/ar-15-a3-stripped-upper-receiver-black-anodized-ar-15-upper-black-anodized-stripped

Service and packaging were top notch and fast

I'm pretty sure they don't machine anything tho
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 3:26:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2016 3:29:41 PM EDT
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I bought these as 7075 Forged Blems for a whopping $40 each



In the online pics it showed a keyhole (Cero, yes?) in the usual place but the ones I received had no markings anywhere I looked on the rear takedown pin lug first and I couldn't find anything anywhere



I think these look just fine for $40 other than some chatter marks beneath the ejection port which don't bother me at all



I just wonder if these are really 7075 ..I searched how to tell the diff between forged and cast but google gave me nothing the same for how to tell 7075 and 6061



Does anyone have a clue what I have?



http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3774.jpg.html http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3775.jpg.html http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3766.jpg.html http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3765.jpg.html http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3768.jpg.html



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Your pics are not working for me. I would recommend calling the seller to find out more about the product.



Anyhow, if their site photos show Cerro forge marks, and the ones you received do not have those marks (or any other, known forge mark), and they don't have a note on their site that states the forge marking(s) may not always match the photos they provide, I'd return them for a refund.




Look, they MAY be just fine. Or, they may be weak, out of spec pieces of crap.




I for one will pay extra to know what I'm getting. When it comes to upper receivers, I just stick with Aero Precision. Proven quality, and I always recognize the forge mark (usually Brass Aluminum).




Good luck.


 
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 3:39:36 PM EDT
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It states right in their ad, that they are 7075 forgings?  I don't understand why as of late so many are doubting, in the old days you might get something that claims to be 7075 when in fact it is 6061, but I have not seen that going on in the last couple of years.

Right now, things are inexpensive and a company would not really have a reason to advertise one thing then sell another.

Bait and switch only works when somebody is actually making a lot more money doing it, that is not the case that I have seen for a while now.
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 5:33:36 PM EDT
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Are my links not working?  When I click on them it goes to the pics and the link to seller also works...Not working for you guys?

Are uppers without any forge marks common?
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 6:03:36 PM EDT
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Are my links not working?  When I click on them it goes to the pics and the link to seller also works...Not working for you guys?

Are uppers without any forge marks common?
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Your links are not hot, let me help you out:

https://moriartiarmaments.com/ar-15-a3-stripped-upper-receiver-black-anodized-ar-15-upper-black-anodized-stripped


And yes, I have seen a lot of parts over the years without forge marks, the forge mark only tells you who forged it, it does not tell you who machined it, Cerro has been forging aluminum for a long time now and if they are saying they are 7075, I would not worry about it, build the gun and go shooting.

I have several uppers and lowers without forge marks on them.
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 6:40:57 PM EDT
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You would have been better off searching here for this company. It is a less than stellar company owned by less than reputable people.




http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_122/686589__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Reputable_companies_.html&page=1#i7051601



 
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 10:33:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/29/2016 11:34:54 PM EDT
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No, they do not work.





Yes, forging marks mean nothing, and it is not uncommon to see receivers without a forge stamp.  The stamp means nothing.  Since the item described is a flattop upper receiver, and that is what you received, I don't understand the comment of some of the other posters.  Companies change suppliers all the time, you still got what you ordered.  With the regular price being $65, it isn't like it was going to be a quality item regardless of the forge mark or chatter marks.  Sorry for being blunt.  


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Are my links not working?  





Are uppers without any forge marks common?

No, they do not work.





Yes, forging marks mean nothing, and it is not uncommon to see receivers without a forge stamp.  The stamp means nothing.  Since the item described is a flattop upper receiver, and that is what you received, I don't understand the comment of some of the other posters.  Companies change suppliers all the time, you still got what you ordered.  With the regular price being $65, it isn't like it was going to be a quality item regardless of the forge mark or chatter marks.  Sorry for being blunt.  


I'm sorry you disagree with my comments Stick, but all of the quality forged uppers I've used over the years have had forge marks (Colt, DD, BCM, Aero, RRA, Spike's, PSA, FN, etc., etc.).





I personally don't trust forged uppers without forge marks, hence my comments. The marks matter to me, as they show that at least the forgings came from known sources.







To each his own. You are right, companies machining forgings change suppliers all the time, however going from known forge marks in the product photos to no forge marks on the delivered product raises red flags for me.


 



ETA: fixed mistakes due to fat thumbs on a small iPotato screen.
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 11:35:31 PM EDT
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No worries on being blunt you get what you pay for I know

As I said I'm waiting for the CMT UPUR-2 but after waiting weeks already and not having a clue when they will be back in stock I found these for $40 and bought them on a whim..honestly for $80 for two I wouldn't care if I had to trash them but I think they are actually not bad for the cheapest placeholders out there : )

I'll try again with the pics from my photobucket acct..not sure why they work for me but not you guys but here goes

As for the company not being good, they were to me..My order came fast USPS Priority and well packed..it was my first order from them Only thing was in the pic it showed the Keyhole mark and the ones I got had none

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/painterjohnphoto/762x39%20AR/IMG_3766.jpg
http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3765.jpg.html   http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3775.jpg.html    http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3774.jpg.html   http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3768.jpg.html
Link Posted: 9/29/2016 11:37:41 PM EDT
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No worries on being blunt you get what you pay for I know



As I said I'm waiting for the CMT UPUR-2 but after waiting weeks already and not having a clue when they will be back in stock I found these for $40 and bought them on a whim..honestly for $80 for two I wouldn't care if I had to trash them but I think they are actually not bad for the cheapest placeholders out there : )



I'll try again with the pics from my photobucket acct..not sure why they work for me but not you guys but here goes



As for the company not being good, they were to me..My order came fast USPS Priority and well packed..it was my first order from them Only thing was in the pic it showed the Keyhole mark and the ones I got had none



http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o94/painterjohnphoto/762x39%20AR/IMG_3766.jpg

http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3765.jpg.html http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3775.jpg.html http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3774.jpg.html http://s118.photobucket.com/user/painterjohnphoto/media/762x39%20AR/IMG_3768.jpg.html
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In the end, if you're happy with them, that's all that matters.



Best of luck to you OP.
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