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Posted: 4/28/2016 12:18:18 AM EDT

So my brother, roommate, and I all have an AR... I've had mine the longest, followed by my brother, then my roommate. We've had a (friendly) debate going on over who has the best black rifle, so I figured we'd see what you wonderful people thought!

We all love our respective AR's and understand the whole "to each their own" theory. We just want to see what everyone else thinks. Furthermore, I know someone is going to say "it all depends on who shoots theirs the best" and that is definitely me just because I have shot mine the most. (Only one in the group that can hit a 24"x44" silouette target at 500 yards with iron sights). It's probably worth mentioning that the listed order is in no specific order.

AR #1 (top in photo):

Lower: Palmetto State
Upper: Bravo Company USA
LPK: CMMG
Barrel: 16" Bravo Company USA
BCG: Bravo Company USA
Handguard: Diamondhead VRS-T 13.5"
Stock: Magpul CTR
Pistol grip: Magpul MOE+
BUIS: Magpul MBUS

AR #2 (middle in photo):

Daniel Defense M4V9
BUIS: Troy M4 Folding

AR #3 (bottom in photo):

Lower: JC Weaponry No Logo
Upper: Bravo Company USA
LPK: ALG Defense Quality Mil-Spec Kit
Barrel: 14.5" Bravo Company USA with 1.5" pinned extended flash hider
BCG: Bravo Company USA
Handguard: Daniel Defense 12.0 Lite Rail
Stock: B5 SOPMOD Bravo
Pistol grip: Standard A2
BUIS: LMT Fixed

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Don't worry, you're not going to hurt any of our feelings. I will try to add in a voting poll if I can figure out to do it. Thank you, happy shooting!

Posted: 4/28/2016 12:48:22 AM EDT

[#1]

I like the third one, though it's probably a pig. The heaviest one.

Posted: 4/28/2016 12:57:38 AM EDT

[#2]

Based on what you posted? Number two by a long stretch.

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:06:14 AM EDT

[#3]

Which one shoots the most reliably and consistently/accurately? If a tie, then the lightest one.

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:06:56 AM EDT

[#4]

Easy - the DD - hands down.

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:24:44 AM EDT

[#5]

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Exactly, a factory DD is going to beat out a large majority of weapons, especially assembled parts guns.

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:40:37 AM EDT

[#6]

#2 if you are going on quality
#3 if you are going on looks

Posted: 4/28/2016 3:24:41 AM EDT

[#7]

Voted for bottom because A2 style sights and grip.

I'd prefer the handguard and stock from the top one put on the bottom one.

Posted: 4/28/2016 3:50:18 AM EDT

[#8]

No one uses optics?

Posted: 4/28/2016 4:14:12 AM EDT

[#9]

#2 if whoever would ditch that over sized butt plug

Posted: 4/28/2016 5:58:54 AM EDT

[#10]

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#2 if you are going on quality
#3 if you are going on looks

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This. DD puts out a nice high quality rifle.

Posted: 4/28/2016 8:16:32 AM EDT

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Posted: 4/28/2016 8:42:44 AM EDT

[#12]

Which one works all the time every time?

Just because it is made by X maker does not mean it is "best". Best would be that no matter what time of day you pick up the rifle you know it is going boom and where you aim at it is where it will poke holes.
IMO some on here get hung up of X Y or Z brand instead of looking at is this rifle reliable, do it do everything I need it to do, and can I stake my life on it being ready when I need it. End of the day that is all that matters not who has a better rifle or who can pee further.

Posted: 4/28/2016 9:15:50 AM EDT

[#13]

Our opinions don't matter. If each is fully functional and meets the needs of the user, that's all that matters. This is like asking us if we like blondes, brunettes, red heads, tall, short, slim, curvy women best. Eye of the beholder.

But since you asked, I prefer petite, blue eyed blondes with slim build and big boobs. And I like DD (bra cup size, and rifles). I don't like the broomstick on the DD. I don't like anything made by Troy.

Posted: 4/28/2016 9:39:14 AM EDT

[#14]

I would go with the Daniel Defense. Why? It's the only one I would be reasonably assured of that it was assembled correctly and with components that were made to work with each other. Not saying anything wrong with the other 2 builds (my 2 favorite AR'S are my frankenbuilds) but your question has only one answer as far as I'm concerned.

Posted: 4/28/2016 11:01:15 AM EDT

[#15]

DD

Posted: 4/28/2016 11:02:14 AM EDT

[#16]

Most definitely the Daniel Defense. I'd take the Troy sights off it though and run the LMT fixed sights on the 3rd rifle.

I would also remove the DD stock on the 2nd rifle and run the B5.

Only one of my guns wears Tornado DD furniture.

I just like better cheek welds and the B5s offer it.

Where's the CH on the top rifle?

Posted: 4/28/2016 12:25:28 PM EDT

[#17]

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Posted: 4/28/2016 12:29:04 PM EDT

[#18]

DDM4V9 all the way.

Posted: 4/28/2016 12:34:15 PM EDT

[#19]

DD for sure

Posted: 4/28/2016 12:36:34 PM EDT

[#20]

#2. The others are fine, but the only franken guns/ franken lower halves I trust are ones I build and verify. You would not believe how many people bork a lower build.

Posted: 4/28/2016 12:43:45 PM EDT

[#21]

#2 DD for sure

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:00:49 PM EDT

[#22]

I don't drink any of the name brand koolaid. I like #3 because I like the sights (why have folding buis when you have no optic? Just one more thing to go wrong when you need it the most) I like the stock and grip also, same as I run on mine. The quad rail looks ready to mount my accessories.

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:18:11 PM EDT

[#23]

The one that's not a Daniel defense

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:35:48 PM EDT

[#24]

Of the three you posted, all three have quality uppers, all three have quality lower parts.

But #1 doesn't have a charging handle, so that ones out. Also don't like the rail.

#3 (OP's I am guessing), I don't like the rail.

So I would take #2.

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:41:57 PM EDT

[#25]

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Most definitely the Daniel Defense. I'd take the Troy sights off it though and run the LMT fixed sights on the 3rd rifle.

I would also remove the DD stock on the 2nd rifle and run the B5.

Only one of my guns wears Tornado DD furniture.

I just like better cheek welds and the B5s offer it.

Where's the CH on the top rifle?

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These are the things I was GOING to type.

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:44:09 PM EDT

[#26]

#2

All of you heathens need some lights

Posted: 4/28/2016 1:48:39 PM EDT

[#27]

The DD for sure

Posted: 4/28/2016 2:55:48 PM EDT

[#28]

If I was forced to pick one, number two.

Posted: 4/28/2016 2:58:39 PM EDT

[#29]

The one in your hand is the best one...

Posted: 4/28/2016 3:07:39 PM EDT

[#30]

Daniel Defense because I own one and a DDM4V11 Pro. I also own a customized Bushmaster ORC (my work horse) and a custom built premium AR-15 that cost me $1800 to build.

Posted: 4/28/2016 3:56:46 PM EDT

[#31]

#2, DD. I have nothing against builds, I refuse to buy any off the shelf ARs anymore, would rather build everything myself, but given the options, I vote Daniel Defense

Posted: 4/28/2016 4:01:16 PM EDT

[#32]

Going against the grain, I voted on number 1 purely based on aesthetics. It was real neck and neck with the factory DD gun. While DD makes a top shelf product, number 1 is more my style. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I just like the under dog..?

Posted: 4/28/2016 6:50:19 PM EDT

[#33]

Thanks for all the replies. I figured most people would pick the DD for obvious reasons. The other two were builds (except for the uppers which came complete)... both owners found it very beneficial to understand exactly how an AR works by building it up. All weapons have had 0 reliability issues and are more accurate than the shooter. As for the other comments/questions... The top one doesn't have a charging handle because Cheaper Than Dirt sent a stripped CH instead of the one that was ordered. It has one now though. The bottom one used to have a 1-4x Leupold scope on it, but was taken off and sold. Both the bottom one and the middle one will have Aimpoint PROs on them by the end of summer. The top will have a Vortex 1-4x on it soon enough as well.

This was purely for amusement and bragging rights. Thanks for those who commented.

And to the person who guessed that #3 was mine... you were correct, and I have no idea how you figured that out. I wanted a simple, no frills, AR and I am super happy with how it turned out. Wouldn't change a thing on it.

Posted: 4/28/2016 7:02:09 PM EDT

[#34]

DD all day. And what's with the hate on the DD furniture? It seems pretty universal--not just on this board

Posted: 4/28/2016 7:08:01 PM EDT

[#35]

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And to the person who guessed that #3 was mine... you were correct, and I have no idea how you figured that out. I wanted a simple, no frills, AR and I am super happy with how it turned out. Wouldn't change a thing on it.

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That was me.

That was easy to figure out, just a matter of being observant, since you were talking about shooting out to 500 yards with irons. The LMT BUIS has the A2 style adjustments, so the best choice of the 3 for it.

Posted: 4/28/2016 7:19:48 PM EDT

[#36]

Pie.

Definitely not the first one. Without a CH it excludes itself from the equation. Otherwise they all look the same to me. But stickman knows a thing or 2. I'm in the camp of whichever one shoots the best and runs good. I would guess they all run good. Besides #1 of course.

ETA: I just read that it has a CH now. That is good.

Posted: 4/28/2016 8:08:03 PM EDT

[#37]

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That was me.

That was easy to figure out, just a matter of being observant, since you were talking about shooting out to 500 yards with irons. The LMT BUIS has the A2 style adjustments, so the best choice of the 3 for it.

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And to the person who guessed that #3 was mine... you were correct, and I have no idea how you figured that out. I wanted a simple, no frills, AR and I am super happy with how it turned out. Wouldn't change a thing on it.

That was me.

That was easy to figure out, just a matter of being observant, since you were talking about shooting out to 500 yards with irons. The LMT BUIS has the A2 style adjustments, so the best choice of the 3 for it.

You powers of observation are quite impressive. Well done!

Posted: 4/28/2016 9:20:26 PM EDT

[#38]

Top one has my vote.

Posted: 4/28/2016 9:32:54 PM EDT

[#39]

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Based on what you posted? Number two by a long stretch.

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SPNI and all that.

I agree 100%

Posted: 4/28/2016 9:47:17 PM EDT

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Based on what you posted? Number two by a long stretch.

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This.

Posted: 4/28/2016 9:54:10 PM EDT

[#41]

As long as it's proven reliable, it's always a Frankengun for me!

#3 please

Posted: 4/29/2016 5:08:34 AM EDT

[#42]

#2.

Posted: 4/29/2016 5:32:27 AM EDT

[#43]

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Based on what you posted? Number two by a long stretch.

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Posted: 4/29/2016 1:56:30 PM EDT

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#2, DD. I have nothing against builds, I refuse to buy any off the shelf ARs anymore, would rather build everything myself, but given the options, I vote Daniel Defense

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This for me as well. I might be weary of buying someone else's build, but I far prefer to build my own ARs over buying factory ARs.

Posted: 4/29/2016 6:01:57 PM EDT

[#45]

I voted for the top one. No love for quad rails.

Posted: 4/29/2016 7:59:58 PM EDT

[#46]

VFG wins. Why no optics?

Posted: 4/29/2016 8:19:12 PM EDT

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#2. The others are fine, but the only franken guns/ franken lower halves I trust are ones I build and verify. You would not believe how many people bork a lower build.

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So sad, and so true!