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Posted: 11/3/2015 12:19:13 AM EDT
So I decided to make a steel one....
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Posted: 11/3/2015 12:24:18 AM EDT
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That doesn't look like steel, dude
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Posted: 11/3/2015 12:27:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn't look like steel, dude Give it a few days, when I have some more down time to run it on the machine. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 3:59:56 AM EDT
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Good job man. I love my URX 3.1 rails but thought that who ever thought up that barrel nut being made out of Aluminum and having rounded notches for the wrench should have had there nuts put in a vise and torqued above 80 F/lbs.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 5:29:19 AM EDT
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Good job man. I love my URX 3.1 rails but thought that who ever thought up that barrel nut being made out of Aluminum and having rounded notches for the wrench should have had there nuts put in a vise and torqued above 80 F/lbs. I bet it works fine when the proper tool is used, the instructions are followed, and the installer isn't on their own program. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 6:45:03 AM EDT
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That assumes a lot. If the OP can CAD/Solidworks a newly designed barrel nut and then machine it. I would bet he can follow directions and probably has the proper wrench. Apparently the OP isn't the only person with that issue or "BLACKLIGHT" wouldn't have chimed in with a little "JEST" might I add.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 7:22:37 AM EDT
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nice job again unclemoak , it would be nice to have a reusable option.
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:15:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet it works fine when the proper tool is used, the instructions are followed, and the installer isn't on their own program. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good job man. I love my URX 3.1 rails but thought that who ever thought up that barrel nut being made out of Aluminum and having rounded notches for the wrench should have had there nuts put in a vise and torqued above 80 F/lbs. I bet it works fine when the proper tool is used, the instructions are followed, and the installer isn't on their own program. Torque spec is 55 ft lbs  |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:15:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That assumes a lot. If the OP can CAD/Solidworks a newly designed barrel nut and then machine it. I would bet he can follow directions and probably has the proper wrench. Apparently the OP isn't the only person with that issue or "BLACKLIGHT" wouldn't have chimed in with a little "JEST" might I add. I think I might know a thing or two and might even have a wrench that'll work  |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 8:53:38 AM EDT
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Thank you unclemoak!
I was thinking of this about a week ago, and allow me to applaud you once again. God bless you Sir. |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 9:04:27 AM EDT
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Could you make one with standard wrench flats instead of the proprietary wrench?
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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:37:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could you make one with standard wrench flats instead of the proprietary wrench? |
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Posted: 11/3/2015 12:22:43 PM EDT
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Could you make one with standard wrench flats instead of the proprietary wrench? This! The price of their proprietary wrench is  x100000.
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Posted: 11/4/2015 11:02:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This! The price of their proprietary wrench is x100000.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could you make one with standard wrench flats instead of the proprietary wrench? This! The price of their proprietary wrench is x100000.If you read through my original wrench thread, you'll see those options were exploded by me a while ago. The biggest issue is having an opening that will fit around a barrel and still fit into the cutout in the bottom of the rail. |
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Posted: 11/4/2015 11:08:34 PM EDT
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Managed to get one turned on the lathe tonight. Looks like I have to tweak the threads a bit to get a better fit with the rail. This one is a little snug, so after it's coated, it'd be a little hard to tighten.
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Posted: 11/4/2015 11:25:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn't look like steel, dude Seriously...you crazy bastards kill me sometimes!!! |
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Posted: 11/5/2015 11:20:31 PM EDT
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The second go around seems to interface the rail threads a lot better. Now I just have to get some soft jaws made to hold it in the mill to cut the teeth.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 2:38:03 AM EDT
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I bet it works fine when the proper tool is used, the instructions are followed, and the installer isn't on their own program. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good job man. I love my URX 3.1 rails but thought that who ever thought up that barrel nut being made out of Aluminum and having rounded notches for the wrench should have had there nuts put in a vise and torqued above 80 F/lbs. I bet it works fine when the proper tool is used, the instructions are followed, and the installer isn't on their own program. Yes it works fine, I have the right tools and have installed 2 with no problems. Some of us just don't settle for "fine" or good enough. Its just a bullshit piece of aluminum and not much thought put into it when who ever designed it. To take it apart if you have to you have to heat it up to undue the blue Loctite and then hope you can reuse the nut again.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 2:44:23 AM EDT
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Torque spec is 55 ft lbs
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Good job man. I love my URX 3.1 rails but thought that who ever thought up that barrel nut being made out of Aluminum and having rounded notches for the wrench should have had there nuts put in a vise and torqued above 80 F/lbs. I bet it works fine when the proper tool is used, the instructions are followed, and the installer isn't on their own program. Torque spec is 55 ft lbs
Yes I know its 55 ft lbs I said to should have had there nuts put in a vise and torqued above 80 F/lbs.  or just clubbed with a mallet.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 2:46:36 AM EDT
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Oh and pics just to show I can operate
Milled the end to mate closer to the upper.  001 by ORION HALO, on Flickr
 023 by ORION HALO, on Flickr
 021 by ORION HALO, on Flickr
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Posted: 11/6/2015 8:06:33 AM EDT
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watch the dust cover pin length when the URX is up against the upper...they usually need to be shortened a bit on that end...
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Posted: 11/6/2015 7:35:36 PM EDT
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I was able to get some time freed up on the mill tonight, so I was able to cut the teeth in the new barrel nut.   Seems to fit just fine in my homemade wrench.  |
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Posted: 11/6/2015 7:37:44 PM EDT
[#22]
Time for a vendor account!
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:05:39 PM EDT
[#23]
Awesome work unclemoak.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:51:54 PM EDT
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You could make a killing on these and Daniel defense light/ris barrel nuts. And a decent Daniel wrench would be nice too.
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Posted: 11/6/2015 9:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could make a killing on these and Daniel defense light/ris barrel nuts. And a decent Daniel wrench would be nice too. Just hope the vendors don't give you issues over patent infringment. You will make quite a bit of money selling the nuts and wrenches. Free |
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Posted: 11/7/2015 2:01:07 PM EDT
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Awesome work unclemoak. /\ this 
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Posted: 11/7/2015 2:27:42 PM EDT
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Damnd I miss machine work!
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Posted: 11/8/2015 11:00:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This Just hope the vendors don't give you issues over patent infringement. You will make quite a bit of money selling the nuts and wrenches. Free Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You could make a killing on these and Daniel defense light/ris barrel nuts. And a decent Daniel wrench would be nice too. Just hope the vendors don't give you issues over patent infringement. You will make quite a bit of money selling the nuts and wrenches. Free What's the deal with the nuts/wrenches for those? I don't have a DD rail, so I'm not familiar with it. |
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Posted: 11/9/2015 2:45:34 AM EDT
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What's the deal with the nuts/wrenches for those? I don't have a DD rail, so I'm not familiar with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could make a killing on these and Daniel defense light/ris barrel nuts. And a decent Daniel wrench would be nice too. Just hope the vendors don't give you issues over patent infringement. You will make quite a bit of money selling the nuts and wrenches. Free What's the deal with the nuts/wrenches for those? I don't have a DD rail, so I'm not familiar with it. The barrel nuts are similar to the URX. The included "wrench" is a stamped steel half moon with 3 tiny teeth design. I haven't had any issue with a wrench when installing a barrel nut but every nut I've removed gets scraped. The issue is when pressure is reversed on the wrench it causes the rear of the wrench to open enough for the teeth to slip. The last one I removed I had to squeeze the wrench in a vice to close it and try again. 
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Posted: 11/9/2015 12:51:07 PM EDT
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The DD RIS II barrel nut isn't similar to the URX barrel nut IMO. The barrel nut works fine, the only issue is the aluminum disposable wrench that DD includes with the rails and people using them the wrong way. If you are loosening the barrel nut; you need to remove the wrench, turn it around and then loosen it. I modified a hammer head tool to fit and it works perfectly.
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Posted: 11/9/2015 1:26:18 PM EDT
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The barrel nuts are similar to the URX. The included "wrench" is a stamped steel half moon with 3 tiny teeth design. I haven't had any issue with a wrench when installing a barrel nut but every nut I've removed gets scraped. The issue is when pressure is reversed on the wrench it causes the rear of the wrench to open enough for the teeth to slip. The last one I removed I had to squeeze the wrench in a vice to close it and try again.http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp341/javajohnmcc12/IMG_0097.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could make a killing on these and Daniel defense light/ris barrel nuts. And a decent Daniel wrench would be nice too. Just hope the vendors don't give you issues over patent infringement. You will make quite a bit of money selling the nuts and wrenches. Free What's the deal with the nuts/wrenches for those? I don't have a DD rail, so I'm not familiar with it. The barrel nuts are similar to the URX. The included "wrench" is a stamped steel half moon with 3 tiny teeth design. I haven't had any issue with a wrench when installing a barrel nut but every nut I've removed gets scraped. The issue is when pressure is reversed on the wrench it causes the rear of the wrench to open enough for the teeth to slip. The last one I removed I had to squeeze the wrench in a vice to close it and try again.http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp341/javajohnmcc12/IMG_0097.jpg Just flip the wrench around when loosening |
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Posted: 11/14/2015 5:18:45 PM EDT
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A few fresh out of the magnesium phosphate bath a few minutes ago. I'm considering sending a few out for nitride to see how they come out.
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Posted: 1/9/2016 11:13:35 PM EDT
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The other week, I sand blasted a pair of barrel nuts and sent them off to nitride. I must say, the nitride finish makes them look so good, I don't even want to install them.
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Posted: 1/10/2016 1:26:45 AM EDT
[#34]
Clean work, OP.
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Posted: 1/10/2016 2:21:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The barrel nuts are similar to the URX. The included "wrench" is a stamped steel half moon with 3 tiny teeth design. I haven't had any issue with a wrench when installing a barrel nut but every nut I've removed gets scraped. The issue is when pressure is reversed on the wrench it causes the rear of the wrench to open enough for the teeth to slip. The last one I removed I had to squeeze the wrench in a vice to close it and try again.http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp341/javajohnmcc12/IMG_0097.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You could make a killing on these and Daniel defense light/ris barrel nuts. And a decent Daniel wrench would be nice too. Just hope the vendors don't give you issues over patent infringement. You will make quite a bit of money selling the nuts and wrenches. Free What's the deal with the nuts/wrenches for those? I don't have a DD rail, so I'm not familiar with it. The barrel nuts are similar to the URX. The included "wrench" is a stamped steel half moon with 3 tiny teeth design. I haven't had any issue with a wrench when installing a barrel nut but every nut I've removed gets scraped. The issue is when pressure is reversed on the wrench it causes the rear of the wrench to open enough for the teeth to slip. The last one I removed I had to squeeze the wrench in a vice to close it and try again.http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp341/javajohnmcc12/IMG_0097.jpg Flip the wrench around so it "closes" when you loosen the nut. It ain't rocket surgery. |
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Posted: 1/10/2016 2:25:50 AM EDT
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Awesome work!
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