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Link Posted: 4/25/2016 12:35:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Got the upper back from ADCO a few weeks ago and I finally got to test fire it today. Now I just need to decide on an optic.
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That looks great!  How did it shoot?
Link Posted: 4/25/2016 12:41:26 AM EDT
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That looks great!  How did it shoot?
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Got the upper back from ADCO a few weeks ago and I finally got to test fire it today. Now I just need to decide on an optic.
http://s31.postimg.org/q1telz2ij/IMG_1927.jpg
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That looks great!  How did it shoot?


Unfortunately I only had some M855 ball so it shot as expected, 2-3" groups. I shot all my 77 gr. so I'm definitely looking at reloading in order to feed these two.
Link Posted: 4/25/2016 8:57:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GaTacoma:


Got the upper back from ADCO a few weeks ago and I finally got to test fire it today. Now I just need to decide on an optic.

http://s31.postimg.org/q1telz2ij/IMG_1927.jpg

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TA31 would be right at home.



 
Link Posted: 4/26/2016 10:53:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
TA31 would be right at home.
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Got the upper back from ADCO a few weeks ago and I finally got to test fire it today. Now I just need to decide on an optic.
http://s31.postimg.org/q1telz2ij/IMG_1927.jpg
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http://s31.postimg.org/ja2zj4diz/IMG_1925.jpg
TA31 would be right at home.
 


I'm actually considering a TA01B, the AMU used it because the 7.62 BC is pretty close to the 77 gr BC. I've seen a couple pictures of TA01's and TA31 so I think either will work.
Link Posted: 4/27/2016 8:44:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GaTacoma:


I'm actually considering a TA01B, the AMU used it because the 7.62 BC is pretty close to the 77 gr BC. I've seen a couple pictures of TA01's and TA31 so I think either will work.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Got the upper back from ADCO a few weeks ago and I finally got to test fire it today. Now I just need to decide on an optic.
http://s31.postimg.org/q1telz2ij/IMG_1927.jpg
http://s31.postimg.org/8pt20j917/IMG_1934.jpg
http://s31.postimg.org/ja2zj4diz/IMG_1925.jpg
TA31 would be right at home.
 


I'm actually considering a TA01B, the AMU used it because the 7.62 BC is pretty close to the 77 gr BC. I've seen a couple pictures of TA01's and TA31 so I think either will work.

I'm going with the TA31 just because I have one. What did you have adco do for you if I might ask? I was going with the WOA SDM-R barrel unless adco has something better.
Link Posted: 4/27/2016 11:47:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

I'm going with the TA31 just because I have one. What did you have adco do for you if I might ask? I was going with the WOA SDM-R barrel unless adco has something better.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Got the upper back from ADCO a few weeks ago and I finally got to test fire it today. Now I just need to decide on an optic.
http://s31.postimg.org/q1telz2ij/IMG_1927.jpg
http://s31.postimg.org/8pt20j917/IMG_1934.jpg
http://s31.postimg.org/ja2zj4diz/IMG_1925.jpg
TA31 would be right at home.
 


I'm actually considering a TA01B, the AMU used it because the 7.62 BC is pretty close to the 77 gr BC. I've seen a couple pictures of TA01's and TA31 so I think either will work.

I'm going with the TA31 just because I have one. What did you have adco do for you if I might ask? I was going with the WOA SDM-R barrel unless adco has something better.


I just had them install the rail and KG Gunkote the barrel. I'm using a WOA 1/8 SDM-R barrel.
Link Posted: 4/28/2016 1:15:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By M249_junky:
Found this going through an old thread

Origonialy posted by R0N






From the Limited Tech Assessment


SAM-R 1
• Olympic Arms FIRSH free float tube
• Colt heavy barrel, chrome-lined, 1:7 twist
• No flip-up sights
• KMC scope riser rail
• KMC low profile scope rings
• Standard flash hider

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/SAMR1_zps602f6b2a.jpg

SAM-R 2
• PRI specific parts (Free Float tube, charging handle, pop-up front sight)
• A.R.M.S. rear pop-up sight
• Krieger 20-inch Stainless barrel 1:7 twist
• A.R.M.S. SPR full length rail
• KMC low profile scope rings
• Standard flash hider

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/SAMR2_zpsdd455ea7.jpg


SAM-R 3 and SAM-R 5
• KMC Free Float Tube (FFRAS)
• Krieger 20-inch Stainless Steel Barrel with 1:7.75 twist
• KMC riser rail
• KMC scope rings
• KMC front folding sight
• KMC rear folding sight
• Standard flash hider

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/SAMR35_zpsdb4be9e9.jpg

SAM 4
• KMC Free Float Tube (FFRAS)
• Douglas Chrome-moly Heavy Barrel with 1:8 twist
• KMC scope riser rail
• Badger low profile scope rings
• Standard flash hider

http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz337/R0N_photos/Mobile%20Uploads/SAM4_zps200b0624.jpg

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Did all of these versions see combat?
Link Posted: 4/29/2016 8:23:08 AM EDT
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Can anyone show a picture of how a Harris bipod mounts to an arms 17? I've tried to figure it out not actually having a #17 in hand. It seems like there must be a piece in the middle that screws to the #17 then the Harris attaches to that piece.
Link Posted: 4/29/2016 8:27:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:


Can anyone show a picture of how a Harris bipod mounts to an arms 17? I've tried to figure it out not actually having a #17 in hand. It seems like there must be a piece in the middle that screws to the #17 then the Harris attaches to that piece.
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You need an ARMS #32.



The #17 is merely a QD rail interface, that is used in several different applications.







The #32 is the piece on top that is screwed to the #17.





That being said, schaz has stated that these were not used/



 
Link Posted: 4/29/2016 8:50:53 AM EDT
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The 17 was not used? I was reading the first page and it said the SDM-R used a Harris bipod mounted with a #17. I thought that was kinda odd. Everything else uses a #32.
Link Posted: 4/29/2016 8:53:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
You need an ARMS #32.

The #17 is merely a QD rail interface, that is used in several different applications.

http://www.militarywarfighter.com/v/vspfiles/photos/ARMS-32-3.jpg

The #32 is the piece on top that is screwed to the #17.


That being said, schaz has stated that these were not used/
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Can anyone show a picture of how a Harris bipod mounts to an arms 17? I've tried to figure it out not actually having a #17 in hand. It seems like there must be a piece in the middle that screws to the #17 then the Harris attaches to that piece.
You need an ARMS #32.

The #17 is merely a QD rail interface, that is used in several different applications.

http://www.militarywarfighter.com/v/vspfiles/photos/ARMS-32-3.jpg

The #32 is the piece on top that is screwed to the #17.


That being said, schaz has stated that these were not used/
 

In the picture what is the piece laying on top the #17? I've seen some #17's for sale but they are just the base. They do not have the extra piece. Is that piece the #32?
EDIT- never mind. Figured it out. Thank you for the pic.
Link Posted: 4/29/2016 9:31:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:




The 17 was not used? I was reading the first page and it said the SDM-R used a Harris bipod mounted with a #17. I thought that was kinda odd. Everything else uses a #32.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:




The 17 was not used? I was reading the first page and it said the SDM-R used a Harris bipod mounted with a #17. I thought that was kinda odd. Everything else uses a #32.
I was referring to the SAM-R, sorry. You are correct for an SDM-R.
The #17 is included when you purchase a #32. I don't think you can buy the #32 by itself.





       

Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:






In the picture what is the piece laying on top the #17? I've seen
some #17's for sale but they are just the base. They do not have the
extra piece. Is that piece the #32?


Yessir. The #32 consists of 2 pieces and requires a #17 to mount it to a rail.





You remove the Harris thumbscrew assembly, and the square portion of the #32 goes through the base of the bipod and screws to the base of the #32. The #32 (with bipod attached) is then screwed to the #17 which interfaces with the rail.






 
Link Posted: 4/29/2016 10:45:02 PM EDT
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Well guys, I scored a NIB KAC FF Rail from the latest batch that Operation Parts had. Now, I only need the rarest of all the unicorns....the KAC folding front sight. Anybody have a line on one?
Link Posted: 4/30/2016 2:23:54 AM EDT
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Well guys, I scored a NIB KAC FF Rail from the latest batch that Operation Parts had. Now, I only need the rarest of all the unicorns....the KAC folding front sight. Anybody have a line on one?
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Lol....that's all huh? I was a fsgb shy of a SAM-R for over a year before saying fuck it and turning her into a Service rifle match shooter. Good luck my friend. The one offer I did get was for like $700 and I'm not THAT much of a SAM-R fanboy.
Link Posted: 4/30/2016 9:13:57 AM EDT
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Lol....that's all huh? I was a fsgb shy of a SAM-R for over a year before saying fuck it and turning her into a Service rifle match shooter. Good luck my friend. The one offer I did get was for like $700 and I'm not THAT much of a SAM-R fanboy.
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Originally Posted By JarHead94:
Well guys, I scored a NIB KAC FF Rail from the latest batch that Operation Parts had. Now, I only need the rarest of all the unicorns....the KAC folding front sight. Anybody have a line on one?

Lol....that's all huh? I was a fsgb shy of a SAM-R for over a year before saying fuck it and turning her into a Service rifle match shooter. Good luck my friend. The one offer I did get was for like $700 and I'm not THAT much of a SAM-R fanboy.


I'd do it for $700. I am determined. And, after all, it's just money. My wife can make more...
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Link Posted: 5/13/2016 8:41:58 PM EDT
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Oh my yikers that's beautiful.
Link Posted: 5/13/2016 11:17:54 PM EDT
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Damn.
 
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Originally Posted By JJREA:
Oh my yikers that's beautiful.


Thanks guys.  

Anybody seen a DD M4 12.0 with either style lock ring lately?  I think I may have a line on a octagonal lock ring or two but I haven't even caught a glimpse of a 12.0 the past few months.  

Last pic of the day, a west coast SAM-R in progress until I can find a steal on an ACOG:





Link Posted: 5/14/2016 8:15:32 AM EDT
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Thanks guys.  



Anybody seen a DD M4 12.0 with either style lock ring lately?  I think I may have a line on a octagonal lock ring or two but I haven't even caught a glimpse of a 12.0 the past few months.  



Last pic of the day, a west coast SAM-R in progress until I can find a steal on an ACOG:



https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7766/26930839951_19e753540b_h.jpg

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Originally Posted By JJREA:

Oh my yikers that's beautiful.




Thanks guys.  



Anybody seen a DD M4 12.0 with either style lock ring lately?  I think I may have a line on a octagonal lock ring or two but I haven't even caught a glimpse of a 12.0 the past few months.  



Last pic of the day, a west coast SAM-R in progress until I can find a steal on an ACOG:



https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7766/26930839951_19e753540b_h.jpg

I really don't need another project right now, but I think I'm gonna add one of those to the list.



 
Link Posted: 5/16/2016 11:16:31 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/16/2016 11:49:07 AM EDT
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Stupid question, I know...but does anyone have line on a current KAC folding front sight for sale?
Link Posted: 5/16/2016 2:57:44 PM EDT
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Stupid question, I know...but does anyone have line on a current KAC folding front sight for sale?
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I have not seen one in over 6 months and the one I did see was listed and sold in less than 30 secs.
Link Posted: 5/16/2016 3:15:37 PM EDT
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Stupid question, I know...but does anyone have line on a current KAC folding front sight for sale?
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It's not a stupid question, how else will you find one if you don't ask.  Like Sampson I haven't seen one for sale in a long time, and with a part that rare the going price is whatever someone is willing to pay
Link Posted: 5/16/2016 4:21:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chenault:


It's not a stupid question, how else will you find one if you don't ask.  Like Sampson I haven't seen one for sale in a long time, and with a part that rare the going price is whatever someone is willing to pay
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By JarHead94:
Stupid question, I know...but does anyone have line on a current KAC folding front sight for sale?


It's not a stupid question, how else will you find one if you don't ask.  Like Sampson I haven't seen one for sale in a long time, and with a part that rare the going price is whatever someone is willing to pay

Very true. Be prepared to be in the 600-700 dollar range.
Link Posted: 5/16/2016 11:24:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

Very true. Be prepared to be in the 600-700 dollar range.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By JarHead94:
Stupid question, I know...but does anyone have line on a current KAC folding front sight for sale?


It's not a stupid question, how else will you find one if you don't ask.  Like Sampson I haven't seen one for sale in a long time, and with a part that rare the going price is whatever someone is willing to pay

Very true. Be prepared to be in the 600-700 dollar range.


Yes, my angus is indeed peppered. What do you guys think of using the GG&G folding front sight as a place holder until I find the real deal?
Link Posted: 5/16/2016 11:38:00 PM EDT
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Yes, my angus is indeed peppered. What do you guys think of using the GG&G folding front sight as a place holder until I find the real deal?
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Originally Posted By JarHead94:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By JarHead94:
Stupid question, I know...but does anyone have line on a current KAC folding front sight for sale?


It's not a stupid question, how else will you find one if you don't ask.  Like Sampson I haven't seen one for sale in a long time, and with a part that rare the going price is whatever someone is willing to pay

Very true. Be prepared to be in the 600-700 dollar range.


Yes, my angus is indeed peppered. What do you guys think of using the GG&G folding front sight as a place holder until I find the real deal?


Honestly, I'd just go with a normal FSB until you can find the real deal, but the GG&G works as well.  Is that the clamp on one?
Link Posted: 5/16/2016 11:43:13 PM EDT
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Very true. Be prepared to be in the 600-700 dollar range.
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Originally Posted By chenault:


Originally Posted By JarHead94:

Stupid question, I know...but does anyone have line on a current KAC folding front sight for sale?




It's not a stupid question, how else will you find one if you don't ask.  Like Sampson I haven't seen one for sale in a long time, and with a part that rare the going price is whatever someone is willing to pay


Very true. Be prepared to be in the 600-700 dollar range.
If you guys would stop paying that much for 'em, they might get back down to $500.



 
Link Posted: 5/16/2016 11:51:02 PM EDT
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If you guys would stop paying that much for 'em, they might get back down to $500.
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By JarHead94:
Stupid question, I know...but does anyone have line on a current KAC folding front sight for sale?


It's not a stupid question, how else will you find one if you don't ask.  Like Sampson I haven't seen one for sale in a long time, and with a part that rare the going price is whatever someone is willing to pay

Very true. Be prepared to be in the 600-700 dollar range.
If you guys would stop paying that much for 'em, they might get back down to $500.
 


Doubt it, it's basic economics, supply and demand.  KAC doing a run would help, but it was never a heavily produced part even when it was being made so I doubt that will happen.  

Thank goodness I got mine 5 years ago, at these prices it's a spectators sport.
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Doubt it, it's basic economics, supply and demand.  KAC doing a run would help, but it was never a heavily produced part even when it was being made so I doubt that will happen.  





Thank goodness I got mine 5 years ago, at these prices it's a spectators sport.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:




Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:




Originally Posted By chenault:




Originally Posted By JarHead94:


Stupid question, I know...but does anyone have line on a current KAC folding front sight for sale?






It's not a stupid question, how else will you find one if you don't ask.  Like Sampson I haven't seen one for sale in a long time, and with a part that rare the going price is whatever someone is willing to pay



Very true. Be prepared to be in the 600-700 dollar range.
If you guys would stop paying that much for 'em, they might get back down to $500.


 






Doubt it, it's basic economics, supply and demand.  KAC doing a run would help, but it was never a heavily produced part even when it was being made so I doubt that will happen.  





Thank goodness I got mine 5 years ago, at these prices it's a spectators sport.
I paid $475 less than 6 months ago for one NIB, and was the only bid.





Buyers decide the market price. If sellers ask $700 and get it without question, why would the next guy ask for any less?





 
Link Posted: 5/17/2016 3:12:42 AM EDT
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For the folding front sight you paid that much????????????????????????????????????
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For the folding front sight you paid that much????????????????????????????????????
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They sold for around $450 when they were new and available.



http://www.operationparts.com/kac-knights-armament-locking-front-folding-sight-fits-sr15-sr16-m16-ar-15-with-0-750-inch-barrel/





I'd say I got a deal.



 
Link Posted: 5/17/2016 8:40:17 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Thank goodness I got mine 5 years ago, at these prices it's a spectators sport. I paid $475 less than 6 months ago for one NIB, and was the only bid.

Buyers decide the market price. If sellers ask $700 and get it without question, why would the next guy ask for any less?
 
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This. Knowledgeable sellers are going to research pricing and try to get top dollar and those looking evidently will keep paying it. The trick is finding one from a guy who doesn't know how sought after they are so they just look up msrp and sell it at a discounted rate. Like, say, 400 bucks on eBay a few months back that I somehow managed to snag after showing for at least an hour. Of course it was a stock picture and sold by a not-so-established seller who hadn't sold anything in a long time so I was taking a chance but it paid off in a major way. Just be patient and watch new items hit the board like it's your job.

Of course I think it was karma having mercy on me after what I offered up for a vero beach ras but that's beside the point
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I am calling this my SDM-R1
Modernized Evolution of the SDM-R ( My version) Couple Evolutions here;

Before:


After:


Current: SDM-R1


Range Pics Coming !!!

cp
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Buyers, rarity and competition determine market prices.  I would argue that if your seller sold that same sight on ee the price it would of gone for much more.  Can people wait and find a deal, sure, but there are plenty willing to pay high prices to get in the game and for the knowing seller those individuals are what's driving the price.  

He's right he did get a hell of a deal at that price.  The clone game isn't a cheap one and isn't for everyone.
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Buyers, rarity and competition determine market prices.  I would argue that if your seller sold that same sight on ee the price it would of gone for much more.  Can people wait and find a deal, sure, but there are plenty willing to pay high prices to get in the game and for the knowing seller those individuals are what's driving the price.  





He's right he did get a hell of a deal at that price.  The clone game isn't a cheap one and isn't for everyone.
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This is very true.





This picture should serve as a disclaimer for any prospective SAM-R builders.  



Roughly $940 sitting right here:







 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
This is very true.


This picture should serve as a disclaimer for any prospective SAM-R builders.  

Roughly $940 sitting right here:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/wZ6qBV" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/324/20336801691_0cc675cfbe_o.jpg</a>
 
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Originally Posted By chenault:


Buyers, rarity and competition determine market prices.  I would argue that if your seller sold that same sight on ee the price it would of gone for much more.  Can people wait and find a deal, sure, but there are plenty willing to pay high prices to get in the game and for the knowing seller those individuals are what's driving the price.  

He's right he did get a hell of a deal at that price.  The clone game isn't a cheap one and isn't for everyone.
This is very true.


This picture should serve as a disclaimer for any prospective SAM-R builders.  

Roughly $940 sitting right here:
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If that is for sale, then you know what to do.....
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 6:49:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
This is very true.


This picture should serve as a disclaimer for any prospective SAM-R builders.  

Roughly $940 sitting right here:
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By chenault:


Buyers, rarity and competition determine market prices.  I would argue that if your seller sold that same sight on ee the price it would of gone for much more.  Can people wait and find a deal, sure, but there are plenty willing to pay high prices to get in the game and for the knowing seller those individuals are what's driving the price.  

He's right he did get a hell of a deal at that price.  The clone game isn't a cheap one and isn't for everyone.
This is very true.


This picture should serve as a disclaimer for any prospective SAM-R builders.  

Roughly $940 sitting right here:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/wZ6qBV" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/324/20336801691_0cc675cfbe_o.jpg</a>
 


Awesome, which barrel is that?
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 9:32:52 PM EDT
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If that is for sale, then you know what to do.....

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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:


Originally Posted By chenault:





Buyers, rarity and competition determine market prices.  I would argue that if your seller sold that same sight on ee the price it would of gone for much more.  Can people wait and find a deal, sure, but there are plenty willing to pay high prices to get in the game and for the knowing seller those individuals are what's driving the price.  



He's right he did get a hell of a deal at that price.  The clone game isn't a cheap one and isn't for everyone.
This is very true.





This picture should serve as a disclaimer for any prospective SAM-R builders.  



Roughly $940 sitting right here:

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/wZ6qBV" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/324/20336801691_0cc675cfbe_o.jpg</a>

 




If that is for sale, then you know what to do.....

Not a chance.



       
Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow:



Awesome, which barrel is that?

Criterion.



 
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 9:43:47 PM EDT
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what barrel is that ? thanks

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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
This is very true.


This picture should serve as a disclaimer for any prospective SAM-R builders.  

Roughly $940 sitting right here:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/wZ6qBV" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/324/20336801691_0cc675cfbe_o.jpg</a>
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By chenault:


Buyers, rarity and competition determine market prices.  I would argue that if your seller sold that same sight on ee the price it would of gone for much more.  Can people wait and find a deal, sure, but there are plenty willing to pay high prices to get in the game and for the knowing seller those individuals are what's driving the price.  

He's right he did get a hell of a deal at that price.  The clone game isn't a cheap one and isn't for everyone.
This is very true.


This picture should serve as a disclaimer for any prospective SAM-R builders.  

Roughly $940 sitting right here:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/wZ6qBV" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/324/20336801691_0cc675cfbe_o.jpg</a>
 

Link Posted: 5/21/2016 10:20:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Not a chance.

       Criterion.
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By JarHead94:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By chenault:


Buyers, rarity and competition determine market prices.  I would argue that if your seller sold that same sight on ee the price it would of gone for much more.  Can people wait and find a deal, sure, but there are plenty willing to pay high prices to get in the game and for the knowing seller those individuals are what's driving the price.  

He's right he did get a hell of a deal at that price.  The clone game isn't a cheap one and isn't for everyone.
This is very true.


This picture should serve as a disclaimer for any prospective SAM-R builders.  

Roughly $940 sitting right here:
<a href="https://flic.kr/p/wZ6qBV" target="_blank">https://farm1.staticflickr.com/324/20336801691_0cc675cfbe_o.jpg</a>
 


If that is for sale, then you know what to do.....
Not a chance.

       
Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow:

Awesome, which barrel is that?
Criterion.
 

Whats the style/profile?
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 10:32:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow:



Originally Posted By secretwheelman:

       
Originally Posted By NukeThemTillTheyGlow:



Awesome, which barrel is that?

Criterion.

 


Whats the style/profile?
20" HBAR, 410SS



http://www.fulton-armory.com/barrelfa20nmhbarss1x8plainmuzzle.aspx



 
Link Posted: 5/21/2016 10:37:12 PM EDT
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Putting the 308 cases to use until I can make the Mk11 and M24 a reality:





Link Posted: 5/22/2016 3:44:18 PM EDT
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Recently rebarreled my SDM-R after a barrel disaster with Superior Barrels.

Coughed up a Compass Lake Douglas SS with flutes. Put it all back together only to find out after I get back from range testing and sighting in that the 3 and 9 o'clock rails on my DD M4 12.0 rail are cracked about a cm at the end of the rail towards the FSB. What's worse, there's wiggle in the rail between the rail body and the locking ring assembly (these are the 2 parts held together by the 4 large spot welds at the 2, 5, 7, and 10 o'clock positions). This is not the locking collar that's loose, and I wish it was that simple. I'm guessing the barrel smacked the rail at some point as there are corresponding marks on either side of the barrel indicating contact. The 2 and 5 o'clock spot welds may be broken as well causing the wiggle. Must have taken a big hit at some point, just not sure when.

I got the rail used some years back. The rail has been well loved, didn't looks terribly abused. Just a waste, as this is the octagonal lock ring M4 rail.

Almost had the perfect clone. I still came close, but now the rail is damaged and I'm not sure I can trust aiming devices mounted on the rail.

Anyone have any info on alternative rails that are clone correct?

Update: I think I may have solved the rail wiggle and salvaged the rail--green wicking loctite, followed by red loctite. More to come when it cures in 24hours.
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 4:17:29 PM EDT
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Recently rebarreled my SDM-R after a barrel disaster with Superior Barrels.



Coughed up a Compass Lake Douglas SS with flutes. Put it all back together only to find out after I get back from range testing and sighting in that the 3 and 9 o'clock rails on my DD M4 12.0 rail are cracked about a cm at the end of the rail towards the FSB. What's worse, there's wiggle in the rail between the rail body and the locking ring assembly (these are the 2 parts held together by the 4 large spot welds at the 2, 5, 7, and 10 o'clock positions). This is not the locking collar that's loose, and I wish it was that simple. I'm guessing the barrel smacked the rail at some point as there are corresponding marks on either side of the barrel indicating contact. The 2 and 5 o'clock spot welds may be broken as well causing the wiggle. Must have taken a big hit at some point, just not sure when.



I got the rail used some years back. The rail has been well loved, didn't looks terribly abused. Just a waste, as this is the octagonal lock ring M4 rail.



Almost had the perfect clone. I still came close, but now the rail is damaged and I'm not sure I can trust aiming devices mounted on the rail.



Anyone have any info on alternative rails that are clone correct?



Update: I think I may have solved the rail wiggle and salvaged the rail--green wicking loctite, followed by red loctite. More to come when it cures in 24hours.
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Hate to hear that, but if you decide you can't use it, let me know.



I need a little thought provoking side project.



 
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 6:37:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JarHead94] [#46]
How is everybody's A.R.M.S. #22 rings holding up? I still have the pair I bought back in the early 2000's, but I haven't mounted them on anything in at least a decade. I remember having a hell of a time getting them on the Olympic upper I had at the time.

Edited to Add:  If anyone manages to find that damned unicorn of a front sight/gas block made by Knights Armament, please...in the name of all that is holy...shoot me a PM or post here in this thread. I check this thread at least twice a day.
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 9:20:23 PM EDT
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Hate to hear that, but if you decide you can't use it, let me know.

I need a little thought provoking side project.
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Recently rebarreled my SDM-R after a barrel disaster with Superior Barrels.

Coughed up a Compass Lake Douglas SS with flutes. Put it all back together only to find out after I get back from range testing and sighting in that the 3 and 9 o'clock rails on my DD M4 12.0 rail are cracked about a cm at the end of the rail towards the FSB. What's worse, there's wiggle in the rail between the rail body and the locking ring assembly (these are the 2 parts held together by the 4 large spot welds at the 2, 5, 7, and 10 o'clock positions). This is not the locking collar that's loose, and I wish it was that simple. I'm guessing the barrel smacked the rail at some point as there are corresponding marks on either side of the barrel indicating contact. The 2 and 5 o'clock spot welds may be broken as well causing the wiggle. Must have taken a big hit at some point, just not sure when.

I got the rail used some years back. The rail has been well loved, didn't looks terribly abused. Just a waste, as this is the octagonal lock ring M4 rail.

Almost had the perfect clone. I still came close, but now the rail is damaged and I'm not sure I can trust aiming devices mounted on the rail.

Anyone have any info on alternative rails that are clone correct?

Update: I think I may have solved the rail wiggle and salvaged the rail--green wicking loctite, followed by red loctite. More to come when it cures in 24hours.
Hate to hear that, but if you decide you can't use it, let me know.

I need a little thought provoking side project.
 


About a quarter through the 24 hour cure time. The wiggle is gone, and the rail is now as solid as any other free flost forearm I have. Not sure if I'll ever be able to take the thing apart again, but oh well. Put some drops of green wicking loctite on the cracks in the front of the rail. So far no more movement on the either side of the cracks. I'm hopeful I got this rail saved.
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About a quarter through the 24 hour cure time. The wiggle is gone, and the rail is now as solid as any other free flost forearm I have. Not sure if I'll ever be able to take the thing apart again, but oh well. Put some drops of green wicking loctite on the cracks in the front of the rail. So far no more movement on the either side of the cracks. I'm hopeful I got this rail saved.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:




Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:





I got the rail used some years back. The rail has been well loved, didn't looks terribly abused. Just a waste, as this is the octagonal lock ring M4 rail.





Almost had the perfect clone. I still came close, but now the rail is damaged and I'm not sure I can trust aiming devices mounted on the rail.





Anyone have any info on alternative rails that are clone correct?





Update: I think I may have solved the rail wiggle and salvaged the rail--green wicking loctite, followed by red loctite. More to come when it cures in 24hours.
Hate to hear that, but if you decide you can't use it, let me know.





I need a little thought provoking side project.


 

About a quarter through the 24 hour cure time. The wiggle is gone, and the rail is now as solid as any other free flost forearm I have. Not sure if I'll ever be able to take the thing apart again, but oh well. Put some drops of green wicking loctite on the cracks in the front of the rail. So far no more movement on the either side of the cracks. I'm hopeful I got this rail saved.
That's what I wanted to hear.



       
Originally Posted By JarHead94:


How is everybody's A.R.M.S. #22 rings holding up? I still have the pair I
bought back in the early 2000's, but I haven't mounted them on anything
in at least a decade. I remember having a hell of a time getting them
on the Olympic upper I had at the time.

Tighter than 2 coats of pant.



You can turn the levers by hand, but it ain't easy.





 
Link Posted: 5/22/2016 9:32:07 PM EDT
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West Coast NSW Mk13 says they're holding up just fine.

Link Posted: 5/23/2016 8:44:15 PM EDT
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About a quarter through the 24 hour cure time. The wiggle is gone, and the rail is now as solid as any other free flost forearm I have. Not sure if I'll ever be able to take the thing apart again, but oh well. Put some drops of green wicking loctite on the cracks in the front of the rail. So far no more movement on the either side of the cracks. I'm hopeful I got this rail saved.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By JAR-SPR:
Recently rebarreled my SDM-R after a barrel disaster with Superior Barrels.

Coughed up a Compass Lake Douglas SS with flutes. Put it all back together only to find out after I get back from range testing and sighting in that the 3 and 9 o'clock rails on my DD M4 12.0 rail are cracked about a cm at the end of the rail towards the FSB. What's worse, there's wiggle in the rail between the rail body and the locking ring assembly (these are the 2 parts held together by the 4 large spot welds at the 2, 5, 7, and 10 o'clock positions). This is not the locking collar that's loose, and I wish it was that simple. I'm guessing the barrel smacked the rail at some point as there are corresponding marks on either side of the barrel indicating contact. The 2 and 5 o'clock spot welds may be broken as well causing the wiggle. Must have taken a big hit at some point, just not sure when.

I got the rail used some years back. The rail has been well loved, didn't looks terribly abused. Just a waste, as this is the octagonal lock ring M4 rail.

Almost had the perfect clone. I still came close, but now the rail is damaged and I'm not sure I can trust aiming devices mounted on the rail.

Anyone have any info on alternative rails that are clone correct?

Update: I think I may have solved the rail wiggle and salvaged the rail--green wicking loctite, followed by red loctite. More to come when it cures in 24hours.
Hate to hear that, but if you decide you can't use it, let me know.

I need a little thought provoking side project.
 


About a quarter through the 24 hour cure time. The wiggle is gone, and the rail is now as solid as any other free flost forearm I have. Not sure if I'll ever be able to take the thing apart again, but oh well. Put some drops of green wicking loctite on the cracks in the front of the rail. So far no more movement on the either side of the cracks. I'm hopeful I got this rail saved.


After 24 hours, solid repair. Red and green loctite is quite useful.

There's actually a little irony with the use of red loctite with getting this rifle back to working that's associated with this particular rifle build if anyone wants to know. But I won't derail this thread unless OP is okay with me sharing,

Also had a chance to zero today and got about 1.25" 100yd 5-shot groups with Win 55gr .223 white box using irons with the occasional flyer. I'm calling this build done, finally.

Now the search for a TA-31F. Would anyone like to donate one to me?
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