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Posted: 7/4/2015 5:55:34 PM EDT
Im trying to build a budget conscious rifle so i picked up the PSA 10.5 upper and the blem classic lower during the 4th sales. Im needing a complete BCG but im not familiar with anything other than BCM. What is the general consensus of some of the other cheaper BCG's like AIM and PSA? Are they good to go or is it a buy once cry once kind of deal?
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You can't go wrong with AIM. Rainier Arms' parked BCG is really nice.
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Just lost the gas key on my Rainier phosphate BCG, but honestly I gather that just happens from time to time. The rest of the BCG has been flawless.
I hear DD makes a good part if you want to pay a bit more for extra confidence. |
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Im thinking of going with AIM...the v2 black nitride for 100 bucks looks like the ticket.
http://aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XAIMBCGV2&name=AIM+v2+BLACK+NITRIDE+.223%2f5.56%2f.300+BLACKOUT+AR%2fM16+C158+Bolt+Carrier+Group&groupid=723 |
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Our very own EE is where I go.
Just bought a brand new FN for $125 shipped. There were a couple of Colts slightly used for $135. The BCG is such important part of the system that I like to buy high quality. |
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I've had good luck with PSA Premium and recently grabbed a couple AIM Nitrides. They seem good, but Time will tell
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AO Precision for $93. Where? AndroCorp. AO Precision makes BCG's and other components our military. Link to where you read that Who knows how much of this is actually true. http://www.aopmfg.com/industries/firearms/ |
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Im thinking of going with AIM...the v2 black nitride for 100 bucks looks like the ticket. http://aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XAIMBCGV2&name=AIM+v2+BLACK+NITRIDE+.223%2f5.56%2f.300+BLACKOUT+AR%2fM16+C158+Bolt+Carrier+Group&groupid=723 View Quote +1, love my AIM V2 BCG... but I only have about 5K rounds on it, but no issues so far! |
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View Quote Toolcraft BCG's are GTG in my book. I have 3 of the NiB coated and 1 non NiB coated. The highest round count I have on one is around 1000 and no issues. |
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I have BCM and PSA pemium and have no complaints with either. One of my PSA premiums is actually a 1B1B6 marked Toolcraft.
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Have you ordered from them in the past? I was just looking at these earlier. I have orderd once from his website and bought from him a few times at my local gun show. Great guy/ company to deal with. |
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Have you ordered from them in the past? I was just looking at these earlier. Yes. I own two of their bcg ordered from this site. No problems. The cheapest one they sell looks like and functions like my Colt BCGs. IMO they are good to go. I read about them on Arfcom and they came highly recommended. The ones I bought were engraved with 1B1B6 code on them. I am not sure what that means but it is C-158 MPI and a quality machinrd BCG. http://www.wcarmory.com/toolcraft-bcg-223-5-56-bolt-carrier-group-mpi-black-1b1b6-158-carpenter.htm |
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I have the PSA Premium BCG in a lot of my builds and they have all been flawless.
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Yes. I own two of their bcg ordered from this site. No problems. The cheapest one they sell looks like and functions like my Colt BCGs. IMO they are good to go. I read about them on Arfcom and they came highly recommended. The ones I bought were engraved with 1B1B6 code on them. I am not sure what that means but it is C-158 MPI and a quality machinrd BCG. http://www.wcarmory.com/toolcraft-bcg-223-5-56-bolt-carrier-group-mpi-black-1b1b6-158-carpenter.htm View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Have you ordered from them in the past? I was just looking at these earlier. Yes. I own two of their bcg ordered from this site. No problems. The cheapest one they sell looks like and functions like my Colt BCGs. IMO they are good to go. I read about them on Arfcom and they came highly recommended. The ones I bought were engraved with 1B1B6 code on them. I am not sure what that means but it is C-158 MPI and a quality machinrd BCG. http://www.wcarmory.com/toolcraft-bcg-223-5-56-bolt-carrier-group-mpi-black-1b1b6-158-carpenter.htm Toolcraft is definitely good to go and 1B1B6 is their CAGE Code. These ones in particular are supposed to be mil-contract overruns. I was more concerned about WC Armory, but you guys have had good experiences with them so I'll have to remember them in the future. |
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BCM auto BCG is all I go with. Yes they cost more than some of the less expensive units, but part of what your paying for is verified quality with the MPI and HPI testing. It's one of those parts I wouldn't supplement with a cheaper unit if it's a rifle that you might use to protect yourself with. Wither it's hog's or a biped attacker.
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My favorite is LMT, followed by Colt. You get what you pay for
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BCG is one thing I do not skimp on in my builds. All of mine have C158 bolts and are HP/MPI. I do not care to get an 8620 bolt and I do not want to find out the hard way that a 9130 bolt was not properly heat treated.
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I agree and do not want to skimp on quality. But i wouldnt mind saving a few bucks. Im trying to keep this build simple and budget conscious. Ive got BCMs in all my guns but at 160 a piece i was just curious what experiences others have had with cheaper options
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If I wanted bang for the buck, I would get a chrome, or phosphated Stag.
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I have 3 AIM BCG, 2 NIB and 1 black nitride, all have worked fine, but here is a really good deal.
http://aresarmor.com/store/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=blk_nitride_bcg_reduced_friction&sid=51k3gnihjewoe6n713nr2qn88781zj99 |
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i would not go with stag they do a poor staking job on the carrier
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Absolutely Toolcraft.
You can buy from wcarmory or go to Toolcraft's sister company and get the Cryptic Coatings version. Complete Mil-Spec M-16 Bolt Carrier with Bolt Assembly HPT/MPI Tested: Mil-Spec BCG Machined from 8620 Aircraft Quality Steel and heat treated to 60-61 RC Mil-Spec Chrome Lined Carrier Interior Mil- Spec Chrome Lined Gas Key Key Staked with Grade 8 Screws, per Mil-Spec Mil-Spec Carpenter 158® Bolt w/ Spring and Ejector Mil-Spec Extractor w/ Spring and viton O-ring Mil-Spec Firing Pin w/ Chrome Finish Mil-Spec Cam Pin Full Auto Carrier (Backward compatible with all semi-auto rifles) 5.56 BCG Weight - 11.55 oz. Nothing missing... |
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Quoted: Absolutely Toolcraft. You can buy from wcarmory or go to Toolcraft's sister company and get the Cryptic Coatings version. Complete Mil-Spec M-16 Bolt Carrier with Bolt Assembly HPT/MPI Tested: Mil-Spec BCG Machined from 8620 Aircraft Quality Steel and heat treated to 60-61 RC Mil-Spec Chrome Lined Carrier Interior Mil- Spec Chrome Lined Gas Key Key Staked with Grade 8 Screws, per Mil-Spec Mil-Spec Carpenter 158® Bolt w/ Spring and Ejector Mil-Spec Extractor w/ Spring and viton O-ring Mil-Spec Firing Pin w/ Chrome Finish Mil-Spec Cam Pin Full Auto Carrier (Backward compatible with all semi-auto rifles) 5.56 BCG Weight - 11.55 oz. Nothing missing... View Quote Thats a great deal at 88 dollars. Whats the deal with the 1B1B6 engraving? It says they are the same bolt. Whats so desirable about that specific engraving? Either way i dont think i can beat the price and quality of toolcraft. Thanks for the heads up ETA: Nevermind...google'd it |
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Pressurized...seriously thanks for the heads up on WCArmory.com
I picked up the toolcraft complete BCG and a BCM gunfighter charging handle for 130.00 shipped. That site has some GREAT prices. Cant believe id never heard of that site before |
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It's foolish to pay $169.99 for a Bravo Company BCG.
Top tier, highest quality manufacturers can be had for less. My current choice is Toolcraft 1B1B6 for $90 from WCArmory.com because Toolcraft is a mil supplier and I like knowing who actually made my BCG... unlike BCM I've even seen Colt's for $150 recently. More than I want to pay, but I would pick a $150 Colt over BCM any day. |
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I exclusively run DD, BCM and KAC BCGs. Though KAC BCGs are proprietary, so they are irrelevant in this discussion.
BCG and barrel are the two most important areas not to skimp on IMO. |
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After reading up on Toolcraft i dont feel like im skimping at all when it comes to quality. I think im simply skipping the middle man and going straight to the source. Which equals money saved. And im ok with that
ETA: i may be wrong but it appears to me that some of the top tier name branded BCGs "COULD" just be toolcraft bolts with someone elses logo branded on them |
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Spikes are my current favorite. Can be had on sales for $120 shipped. 8620 carrier...C158 bolt.... All the specs and each one is individually MPI and HPT.
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After reading up on Toolcraft i dont feel like im skimping at all when it comes to quality. I think im simply skipping the middle man and going straight to the source. Which equals money saved. And im ok with that ETA: i may be wrong but it appears to me that some of the top tier name branded BCGs "COULD" just be toolcraft bolts with someone elses logo branded on them View Quote I think you are likely correct about Toolcraft. They may be the mfr of some of mine. I recommended the Stag/CMT, simply because they make some solid small parts, and the price is excellent. I have never heard of a staking issue with Stag/CMT as was mentioned in one of the posts. I do not own one. The bulk of mine are DD, and my 3 "spares" are Spikes that I picked up on sale. I too believe the BCG is one part that should not be skimped on, and piece of mind is worth a few more bones. I also have BCM, WMD, JP, and a Denny's Thunderbolt. If I could get more Tbolts, I would. I would not hesitate to get that Toolcraft with a 158 bolt. You should be set. |
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On sale at SA&A several BCG http://www.surplusammo.com/independence-day-sale/?sort=featured&page=3
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I didnt. Got the toolcraft and a bcm gunfighter charging handle for 130.00 shipped
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After reading up on Toolcraft i dont feel like im skimping at all when it comes to quality. I think im simply skipping the middle man and going straight to the source. Which equals money saved. And im ok with that ETA: i may be wrong but it appears to me that some of the top tier name branded BCGs "COULD" just be toolcraft bolts with someone elses logo branded on them View Quote DD and KAC both make their own BCGs in house. No idea who BCM sources theirs from. |
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That TOOLCRAFT BCG looks pretty damn good spec-wise. I have never heard of these guys before, so I'm leery about buying anything from them. I'm so used to only buying stuff from certain companies (Colt, Stag, Noveske, etc) that I tend to be skeptical about companies I've never hear about. But, once again, the specs are spot-on.
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Quoted: That TOOLCRAFT BCG looks pretty damn good spec-wise. I have never heard of these guys before, so I'm leery about buying anything from them. I'm so used to only buying stuff from certain companies (Colt, Stag, Noveske, etc) that I tend to be skeptical about companies I've never hear about. But, once again, the specs are spot-on. View Quote After doing some research, its not only possible but very likely that toolcraft makes the BCGs for those companies you listed. |
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That TOOLCRAFT BCG looks pretty damn good spec-wise. I have never heard of these guys before, so I'm leery about buying anything from them. I'm so used to only buying stuff from certain companies (Colt, Stag, Noveske, etc) that I tend to be skeptical about companies I've never hear about. But, once again, the specs are spot-on. After doing some research, its not only possible but very likely that toolcraft makes the BCGs for those companies you listed. Toolcraft doesn't make any bcg for the companies listed. CMT makes stag/noveske (or used to... haven't kept up with Noveske in a few years) and Colt makes Colt BCGs. |
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