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Posted: 2/13/2015 5:15:40 PM EDT
This thread is for clones of military firearms.

Rules of the thread are simple.  To post an image of your rifle, first post a military photo your rifle is a clone of then post your rifle.

Please limit discussion to pointing out discrepancies.  Because these are "Clones", we will ignore that they are non-full auto lowers.  Posters with too many discrepancies should be politely asked to remove their pictures.  To be kind, lets not worry about things like paint, markings, wear, etc.

Here are a couple of examples.



Wrong Sling
ACOG is in the wrong position



No PEQ2
No CQD sling mount
Wilcox mount turn around
Has side sling mount.
LMT rear sight, not chopped carry handle
Wrong generation Stock.
Wrong generation Aimpoint
Looks mostly right, most of the issues are minor, so this would be a good example.



Wrong rear sight
Wrong hand guard covers
Wrong accessories
Wrong muzzle device
No PEQ15
Eotech is in the wrong position.
This is an example of something that is too far off from the source picture and should not be posted.  It is clearly not a "clone" of the rifle above it.

Please post your military rifle clones.
What other discrepancies can you find in my guns?
Link Posted: 2/13/2015 5:58:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Challenge accepted. Off to the parts bin...


















Original:




Clone:










Correct parts (per OP's rules):





- Errthang


Incorrect parts:


- WAT?
 



 
Link Posted: 2/13/2015 6:37:11 PM EDT
[#2]
My discrepancies are obvious, I can nitpick the hell out of it. Are we going down to rollmarks and manufacturers of barrels? Hell, mine's probably an example of "close, but not CLONE worthy". Feel free to use my breakdown as example of a full "anal clone" level markup against the real thing.

Actual Mod 0:



Mine


Correct:
ARMS #38 SPR-PEQ-2-3
M16 D-type buttstock
M16A1 grip
Eagle TAS-1 sling mounts
KAC RAS sling mount w/Uncle Mike's swivel (in mail)
*(AEM5 is on transfer)
PRI Gasbuster CH w/Mil latch

Wrong:
Suppressor is wrong (AAC SPR/M4 presently until AEM5/mount clear Form 4)
Barrel is not Douglas (WOA SPR, correct profile & twist but wrong MFG)
PRI FSB is clamp style, not set screw. (also later mfg, does not have full company address on it)
Scope is wrong (Bushnell 3-12, should be Leupold TS-30)
Upper & BCG are not Colt's or Armalite
Lower is not M16A1 profile, LMT not Colt's parts
Trigger is SSA-E instead of SSA
ARMS #22M's are later "lever stop" vs older non-lever stop
Bipod mount is wrong (LaRue instead of KAC RAS Bipod mount)
Sling is Armageddon gear vs Eagle TAS-1 UMSS (I'm using the mounts/adapters of the sling only, actual sling is MIA)
ARMS #40 is the Standalone instead of spec #40 A2

Hows THAT for anal breakdown
Link Posted: 2/13/2015 6:46:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Sounds like a good idea.







Missing 12th model, incorrect bipod mount, and illum. on the 3.5-10.






Missing the 12th model, a1 or a2 grip(can't tell which), and a tas-1 umss.









Different optic, no peq, different BUIS, different sling.
 
 
Link Posted: 2/13/2015 6:52:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Member JShepard's issue gun and mine. Different stock and pistol grip. Updated issue EOtech. No rear BUIS.

ETA: I could use PFran's pic too.



Link Posted: 2/13/2015 10:31:17 PM EDT
[#5]
I may be bending the rules here and if I am going too far then I'll gladly nuke my post. I've got an "inspired" clone from several images out there. There's no direct picture to correlate back to but the "pool" of parts is the same. I'm not kosher for the MK18 thread so I figure I'd post here. Maybe others who deviate from the strict clone threads can find refuge too.








The "theme" is a B1 CQBR w/ B2 accessories and some personal add ons. PR 1.5? I call it the "CQBBR" Close Quarters Bastard Battle Receiver.

"Clone" Legit
-KAC 300M rear
-ATPIAL-C
-SU231A/EXPS3-0

-A2 FH





-A2 FSB


-Geissele SSA
-IUID Sticker












"Semi Clone" Legit (as seen in pics but not normal)




-Gas Buster?



-Inforce WML






-Magpul STR






-LaRue 7.0 Rail















Not Legit





-10.5" barrel





-Fortis Sling mount





-LaRue Sling





-LaRue FUG
-Hogue Grip


-Enhanced Trigger Guard



-KAC Ambi Safety






















My build (excuse the garbage potato pics):

























 

 



 

 
Link Posted: 2/13/2015 11:06:36 PM EDT
[#6]





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I may be bending the rules here and if I am going too far then I'll gladly nuke my post. I've got an "inspired" clone from several images out there. There's no direct picture to correlate back to but the "pool" of parts is the same. I'm not kosher for the MK18 thread so I figure I'd post here. Maybe others who deviate from the strict clone threads can find refuge too.
The "theme" is a B1 CQBR w/ B2 accessories and some personal add ons. PR 1.5? I call it the "CQBBR" Close Quarters Bastard Battle Receiver.
"Clone" Legit





-KAC 300M rear





-ATPIAL-C





-SU231A/EXPS3-0 -A2 FH





-A2 FSB





-Geissele SSA





-IUID Sticker






"Semi Clone" Legit (as seen in pics but not normal)
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-Gas Buster?





-Inforce WML





-Magpul STR





-LaRue 7.0 Rail

Not Legit





-10.5" barrel





-Fortis Sling mount





-LaRue Sling





-LaRue FUG





-Hogue Grip





-Enhanced Trigger Guard





-KAC Ambi Safety









<SNIP>
 
 
 
 

 
Maybe this will help...







*Seen in the wild = SITW







Clone Kosher







-PRI Gas Buster M84 (SOPMOD)
-Inforce WML (SITW)





-Magpul STR (SITW) - Although I've only seen these on CQBR/Block II guns

-10.5" barrel - MK18 MOD 0 (SOPMOD) - 10.3" is far more common though





-LaRue Sling (SITW)





-Hogue Grip (SITW)
-Enhanced Trigger Guard (SITW)





-KAC Ambi Safety (SOPMOD)












Questionable








-Larue FUG - I bet there are a few out there.





-Fortis Sling Mount







Not Kosher








-Larue rail    EDIT:(I guess this would be acceptable for a clone seeing how RussellAthletic just posted SITW pics below)





To me, it looks like the Larue rail is the only "show stopper" holding you back.









 

 
Link Posted: 2/13/2015 11:21:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Real



Mine



Irons added



Different sling
No AEM5 (its on the way)
My barrel needs paint
Needs Gas Buster CH
Doesn't have A1 lower and grip

Link Posted: 2/13/2015 11:27:15 PM EDT
[#8]

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Quoted:









SNIP





 
 
 
 


  Maybe this will help...





*Seen in the wild = SITW





Clone Kosher





-PRI Gas Buster M84 (SOPMOD)

-Inforce WML (SITW)

-Magpul STR (SITW) - Although I've only seen these on CQBR/Block II guns

-10.5" barrel - MK18 MOD 0 (SOPMOD) - 10.3" is far more common though

-LaRue Sling (SITW)

-Hogue Grip (SITW)

-Enhanced Trigger Guard (SITW)

-KAC Ambi Safety (SOPMOD)





Questionable





-Larue FUG - I bet there are a few out there.

-Fortis Sling Mount





Not Kosher





-Larue rail





To me, it looks like the Larue rail is the only "show stopper" holding you back.





 




 
Good info and I like the "SITW" theme. There are a couple of LT rails floating out there but I don't know their stories. Always thought it would have been a nice improvement from KAC RAS and prior to RIS II being fielded.















Link Posted: 2/13/2015 11:28:30 PM EDT
[#9]

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Real



http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/406954-r1-021-9_011_1_.jpg



Mine



http://i.imgur.com/epafFqn.jpg



Irons added



http://i.imgur.com/kjyAQgd.jpg



Different sling

No AEM5 (its on the way)

My barrel needs paint



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The MK12 has always just looked like an AR should. Nice work.
Link Posted: 2/13/2015 11:32:51 PM EDT
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  The MK12 has always just looked like an AR should. Nice work.
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Real

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/406954-r1-021-9_011_1_.jpg

Mine

http://i.imgur.com/epafFqn.jpg

Irons added

http://i.imgur.com/kjyAQgd.jpg

Different sling
No AEM5 (its on the way)
My barrel needs paint


  The MK12 has always just looked like an AR should. Nice work.


I thought so too. Thanks!
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