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Link Posted: 4/26/2017 7:41:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TBone556:
I want to see some groups from that barrel! You got all the makings of a nice little set up.
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Originally Posted By Bedouin2W:

Probably 12.5". I couldn't find a 12.5" barrel from Red-X Arms or Radical Firearms so I guess I may just use this 12.5 barrel.

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q713/bedouin2w/MiniRecce/20170425_105230_zpscqbfunhh.jpg
I want to see some groups from that barrel! You got all the makings of a nice little set up.
Thanks man. The last few builds I've done I've decided to not make any compromises on part selection. That had cost me a few more $ and taken more time to source the parts at reasonable prices, but the absolute satisfaction I've had in the performance of those builds has been worth it.



The few other polygonal rifled barrels I've had have been fantastic shooters,  so to me the extra money for the polygonal rifled Noveske barrel was an easy decision,  especially considering the gas block and gas tube is included.

Unfortunately it may not be until June until I get to shoot this.

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Link Posted: 4/26/2017 9:32:32 PM EDT
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Dyed sand pmag here.
Link Posted: 4/28/2017 11:01:23 PM EDT
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Got a little budget Bushnell 1-4 for when I want some magnification. Going to get an LT158 for it here soon.

Micro Recce 6.25in 300BLK



Mini Recce 11.5 Colt

Link Posted: 4/29/2017 12:02:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bedouin2W:

Probably 12.5". I couldn't find a 12.5" barrel from Red-X Arms or Radical Firearms so I guess I may just use this 12.5 barrel.

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q713/bedouin2w/MiniRecce/20170425_105230_zpscqbfunhh.jpg
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You will love it
I love mine.
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 9:14:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
Got a little budget Bushnell 1-4 for when I want some magnification. Going to get an LT158 for it here soon.

Micro Recce 6.25in 300BLK

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/BCD3CF10-6907-4D21-96DC-33893BA2C07B_zpsntyjotaa.jpg

Mini Recce 11.5 Colt

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b510/cwm556/9A23E2A3-8269-4DC8-A77E-2C54D70F570F_zpscjc6eaec.jpg
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They're so cute. 

We need to shoot a recce mach this year.
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 9:16:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:

They're so cute. 

We need to shoot a recce mach this year.
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Yes.
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 3:54:34 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/29/2017 6:25:39 PM EDT
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What are the details on the rifle build?
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 6:49:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
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Is that a grendel?
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 7:14:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SOVIETsilence:


What are the details on the rifle build?
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Originally Posted By SOVIETsilence:


What are the details on the rifle build?
14.5 BA Hansen 223 Wylde barrel
13" Geissele Mk4 Mlok
Geissele Scope mount / Vortex PST 1-4
Geissele SSA-E
Surefire MB556 FH/ Surefire 7.62 Mini supressor
Aero Reciever, Vltor stock, Magpul Pro BUIS

Originally Posted By RePp:


Is that a grendel?
Rude
Link Posted: 4/29/2017 11:51:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NEASGNoMercy:
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Oh my...
Link Posted: 5/2/2017 1:28:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bedouin2W:

Thanks man. The last few builds I've done I've decided to not make any compromises on part selection. That had cost me a few more $ and taken more time to source the parts at reasonable prices, but the absolute satisfaction I've had in the performance of those builds has been worth it.

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q713/bedouin2w/MiniRecce/20170426_183130_zpse2ikrpbx.jpg

The few other polygonal rifled barrels I've had have been fantastic shooters,  so to me the extra money for the polygonal rifled Noveske barrel was an easy decision,  especially considering the gas block and gas tube is included.

Unfortunately it may not be until June until I get to shoot this.

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Pretty much my approach for my last two as well. And the 5R barrels from Rainier have been absolutely stunning. Sub-MOA with match ammo. Just got a 3/8" group out of my 14.5" with an NF 1-4. Yeah, it was only three shots, but it did it! Most groups have been around 0.5-0.75". Can't complain about that.
Link Posted: 5/2/2017 11:03:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bedouin2W:

Thanks man. The last few builds I've done I've decided to not make any compromises on part selection. That had cost me a few more $ and taken more time to source the parts at reasonable prices, but the absolute satisfaction I've had in the performance of those builds has been worth it.

http://i1355.photobucket.com/albums/q713/bedouin2w/MiniRecce/20170426_183130_zpse2ikrpbx.jpg

The few other polygonal rifled barrels I've had have been fantastic shooters,  so to me the extra money for the polygonal rifled Noveske barrel was an easy decision,  especially considering the gas block and gas tube is included.

Unfortunately it may not be until June until I get to shoot this.

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I have an 18inch spr barrel from them on a 3gun and it's awesome accuracy wise. I have a 16chf and that one is decent I want to swap the optic to see if my reticle is just not conducive to shooting groups or what. But the day I do a true mini recce (14.5 pinned just doesn't feel mini) I want to do a noveske 12.5
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 1:34:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TBone556: But the day I do a true mini recce (14.5 pinned just doesn't feel mini) I want to do a noveske 12.5
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Perhaps it is time to amend the rules.  Make it SBR only??  I did not do it for fear that Lancelot would bump this thread into NFAville.  The traffic there is slow
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 1:44:57 PM EDT
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I think the 14.5 pinned and welded is a good max. Over in the MK18 thread you see guys post their AR pistols, some states still don't allow SBR's so some wouldn't be able to play. I just like the idea of a 12.5 noveske crusader for my one day mini recce, John Noveske was quoted as saying that was one of his most accurate barrels.
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 1:47:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Perhaps it is time to amend the rules.  Make it SBR only??  I did not do it for fear that Lancelot would bump this thread into NFAville.  The traffic there is slow
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By TBone556: But the day I do a true mini recce (14.5 pinned just doesn't feel mini) I want to do a noveske 12.5
Perhaps it is time to amend the rules.  Make it SBR only??  I did not do it for fear that Lancelot would bump this thread into NFAville.  The traffic there is slow
If you ask me, it ain't a "mini" unless it's SBRd. And no, pistols don't count. 
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 1:49:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
If you ask me, it ain't a "mini" unless it's SBRd. And no, pistols don't count. 
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By TBone556: But the day I do a true mini recce (14.5 pinned just doesn't feel mini) I want to do a noveske 12.5
Perhaps it is time to amend the rules.  Make it SBR only??  I did not do it for fear that Lancelot would bump this thread into NFAville.  The traffic there is slow
If you ask me, it ain't a "mini" unless it's SBRd. And no, pistols don't count. 
Shit, the pistol rule has been in effect since day ONE.  No pistols in my thread.  I am a hater.

I did the 14.5 / pinned for traffic, and to keep the thread in this forum.
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 2:03:07 PM EDT
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IMHO, 14.5" - 16" is the definition of what a recce gun is. Therefore, it's gotta be sub-14.5" for it to fall into the mini-recce category. But that's just me.
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 2:13:12 PM EDT
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SBR only also means no 13.7 pin/welds too...Don't get rid of the 13.7s!
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 2:21:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:


Shit, the pistol rule has been in effect since day ONE.  No pistols in my thread.  I am a hater.

I did the 14.5 / pinned for traffic, and to keep the thread in this forum.
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If MK18/CQBR can hang out in General AR so can a SBR'd Mini Recce thread.

-Casual Mini Recce Fan
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 3:43:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
IMHO, 14.5" - 16" is the definition of what a recce gun is. Therefore, it's gotta be sub-14.5" for it to fall into the mini-recce category. But that's just me.
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Seconded. Gotta be less than 14.5"
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 3:52:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
IMHO, 14.5" - 16" is the definition of what a recce gun is. Therefore, it's gotta be sub-14.5" for it to fall into the mini-recce category. But that's just me.
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Agreed, 13.7" pin/weld should be the shortest non-sbr in here IMO.
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 4:15:44 PM EDT
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Even though my "Recon Scout" or Mini Recce is on a SBR lower, it's a 14.5" 1/7 SS mid length without flash suppressor pinned (it's a bi-lock),
and I don't especially want to give up any more velocity.  After all, it is supposed to have a moderate range capacity.
The 14.5" with SpecWar 2 suppressor and bright 5.5X Acog is a pleasure to shoot and unusually quiet perhaps due to the gas system
timing and how that works with the suppressor.
Hornady 75gr T2 556 ammo works very well and the gun gives excellent groups.

I don't know if it's the best idea to push all the guns in this classification to SBR status.
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 4:21:20 PM EDT
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12.5" Mini Recce is Best Mini Recce
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 5:34:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By edwin907:
Even though my "Recon Scout" or Mini Recce is on a SBR lower, it's a 14.5" 1/7 SS mid length without flash suppressor pinned (it's a bi-lock),
and I don't especially want to give up any more velocity.  After all, it is supposed to have a moderate range capacity.
The 14.5" with SpecWar 2 suppressor and bright 5.5X Acog is a pleasure to shoot and unusually quiet perhaps due to the gas system
timing and how that works with the suppressor.
Hornady 75gr T2 556 ammo works very well and the gun gives excellent groups.

I don't know if it's the best idea to push all the guns in this classification to SBR status.
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14.5" would be considered a recce by most.

There is a thread just for recce rifles too
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 9:20:13 PM EDT
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The MK18 thread has the traffic to stay though because let's be real everyone wants to see what pictures of group, bat, cag, marsoc in the wild they can see. Rifles based off of SOPMOD stuff will also get traffic. The RECCE thread traffic because 1. SOPMOD 2. Most people run rifles now a days that fit the RECCE guidelines. I say keep 14.5 for traffic, I still want to get my noveske'd out 12.5 one day but for now I'm stuck with my 14.5 pinned.
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 9:39:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TBone556:
The MK18 thread has the traffic to stay though because let's be real everyone wants to see what pictures of group, bat, cag, marsoc in the wild they can see. Rifles based off of SOPMOD stuff will also get traffic. The RECCE thread traffic because 1. SOPMOD 2. Most people run rifles now a days that fit the RECCE guidelines. I say keep 14.5 for traffic, I still want to get my noveske'd out 12.5 one day but for now I'm stuck with my 14.5 pinned.
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I would just hate to leave out the folks that live where SBRs aren't allowed.
Half of my lowers have tax stamps, and yes, it's nice not to have to pin a 14.5" rifle.
Link Posted: 5/3/2017 11:06:47 PM EDT
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20170501_080105-01-01 by T B, on Flickr
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 1:03:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By edwin907:


I would just hate to leave out the folks that live where SBRs aren't allowed.
Half of my lowers have tax stamps, and yes, it's nice not to have to pin a 14.5" rifle.
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I agree. Heck, I thought another reason this got started was because people with 14.5's posting in the RECCE thread were catching flack. Guess there's just no love for 14.5's besides the M4/M4A1/Block II threads.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 6:59:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jBoy723:
I agree. Heck, I thought another reason this got started was because people with 14.5's posting in the RECCE thread were catching flack. Guess there's just no love for 14.5's besides the M4/M4A1/Block II threads.
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Originally Posted By jBoy723:
Originally Posted By edwin907:


I would just hate to leave out the folks that live where SBRs aren't allowed.
Half of my lowers have tax stamps, and yes, it's nice not to have to pin a 14.5" rifle.
I agree. Heck, I thought another reason this got started was because people with 14.5's posting in the RECCE thread were catching flack. Guess there's just no love for 14.5's besides the M4/M4A1/Block II threads.
Can't figure how that's possible since two of the most iconic recce guns I can think of were John Chapman's LaRue-railed carbine and Bob Horrigan's MRE setup. Both were 14.5" guns, neither of which were Block II carbines. The only Block II recce gun I can recall was that Raider's gun with the NF 2.5-10x/T-1 setup.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 8:19:16 AM EDT
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I remember long ago in this thread it was decided 14.5" and under counter as a mini.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 7:25:58 PM EDT
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12.5" with an M4-2000 and an Atibal XP8

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Originally Posted By jBoy723:
I agree. Heck, I thought another reason this got started was because people with 14.5's posting in the RECCE thread were catching flack. Guess there's just no love for 14.5's besides the M4/M4A1/Block II threads.
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Originally Posted By jBoy723:
Originally Posted By edwin907:


I would just hate to leave out the folks that live where SBRs aren't allowed.
Half of my lowers have tax stamps, and yes, it's nice not to have to pin a 14.5" rifle.
I agree. Heck, I thought another reason this got started was because people with 14.5's posting in the RECCE thread were catching flack. Guess there's just no love for 14.5's besides the M4/M4A1/Block II threads.
That's exactly what I remember too. I don't see why we need to change the rules ex post facto.
Link Posted: 5/4/2017 8:17:39 PM EDT
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Guess I can finally post in this thread.
14.5" Middy with a TR-24


Link Posted: 5/5/2017 12:35:37 AM EDT
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It was, we were just bored and yappin'.

It's all good
Link Posted: 5/5/2017 12:36:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By jBoy723:
I agree. Heck, I thought another reason this got started was because people with 14.5's posting in the RECCE thread were catching flack. Guess there's just no love for 14.5's besides the M4/M4A1/Block II threads.
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Originally Posted By jBoy723:
Originally Posted By edwin907:


I would just hate to leave out the folks that live where SBRs aren't allowed.
Half of my lowers have tax stamps, and yes, it's nice not to have to pin a 14.5" rifle.
I agree. Heck, I thought another reason this got started was because people with 14.5's posting in the RECCE thread were catching flack. Guess there's just no love for 14.5's besides the M4/M4A1/Block II threads.
Nothin' changin', I love my 14.5s, too

I still have a couple that are pinned
Link Posted: 5/5/2017 12:41:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Munzy:
Agreed, 13.7" pin/weld should be the shortest non-sbr in here IMO.
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
IMHO, 14.5" - 16" is the definition of what a recce gun is. Therefore, it's gotta be sub-14.5" for it to fall into the mini-recce category. But that's just me.
Agreed, 13.7" pin/weld should be the shortest non-sbr in here IMO.
The 13.7 looks freakish with a pinned FH, but looks best like this
Link Posted: 5/5/2017 7:16:17 AM EDT
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Good looking 14.5, mine is similiar, except I have a green TR24, alpha instead of vctac, and ctr instead of str, and ergo instead of moe.
Link Posted: 5/5/2017 9:06:32 AM EDT
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I don't know about you guys, but I love a 14.5" AR.  To me it's just about the perfect length, but not too much when you add a suppressor.
Lethality is pretty good with the right ammo, I hate giving up frag range in my SBR's.
My MRP with the 14.5" qualifies as a Mini Recce, of course there's that ACOG, not a variable, but hey, that's just me.



But I do have a pic with a variable on it.

Link Posted: 5/15/2017 1:34:15 AM EDT
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would a 14.5" with a otb mount fit the guidelines of a "mini recce" I just got my sbr stamp in and planning on going this route when my suppressor stamps clear.
Link Posted: 5/15/2017 6:52:07 PM EDT
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I just started the Form 1 on a BCM Mod 0 lower this week to start my own mini-recce build. Not sure what I'm doing for the upper yet... I already have a pinned 14.5 lightweight recce-style build and a 10.5" pistol, but I've been craving a single compact and robust that will essentially replace them both. It'll be used for everything from hunting to target shooting out to ~400 yards and a few training classes a year.

I'm leaning towards a 12.5" BCM factory upper with the new 10" MMR coming later this year, but also tossing around the idea of building an unpinned 13.7" Noveske middy on a BCM upper with a 13" Geissele Mk8. The latter would cost almost double and I'm afraid it wouldn't feel any smaller or maneuver any easier than my 14.5" gun, which still feels like a full-length rifle (because it is). But, it would be ~1.5" shorter than my 14.5" with an A2 sized muzzle device, while retaining the mid gas and nearly identical ballistics. Both seem very practical for a do-it-all rifle, which is the goal. I kinda want both, but I don't want to pay for both.

Here is my 14.5 for sake of the photo thread:

Link Posted: 5/16/2017 2:45:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 0uTkAsT:
I just started the Form 1 on a BCM Mod 0 lower this week to start my own mini-recce build. Not sure what I'm doing for the upper yet... I already have a pinned 14.5 lightweight recce-style build and a 10.5" pistol, but I've been craving a single compact and robust that will essentially replace them both. It'll be used for everything from hunting to target shooting out to ~400 yards and a few training classes a year.

I'm leaning towards a 12.5" BCM factory upper with the new 10" MMR coming later this year, but also tossing around the idea of building an unpinned 13.7" Noveske middy on a BCM upper with a 13" Geissele Mk8. The latter would cost almost double and I'm afraid it wouldn't feel any smaller or maneuver any easier than my 14.5" gun, which still feels like a full-length rifle (because it is). But, it would be ~1.5" shorter than my 14.5" with an A2 sized muzzle device, while retaining the mid gas and nearly identical ballistics. Both seem very practical for a do-it-all rifle, which is the goal. I kinda want both, but I don't want to pay for both.

Here is my 14.5 for sake of the photo thread:

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I'm gonna say definitely go for the 12.5 with the new MMR. More then likely I will be replacing my KAC rail with one of those MMR's depending on the final dimensions and sizes.
But you would be very happy with the 12.5. Plus if you ever wanna suppress it, a 12.5 with a suppressor is a lot easier to manuever then a 13.7 with a suppressor. Just has more options and benefits with the 12.5. At least IMO.
Link Posted: 5/16/2017 12:27:32 PM EDT
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I'm gonna say definitely go for the 12.5 with the new MMR. More then likely I will be replacing my KAC rail with one of those MMR's depending on the final dimensions and sizes.
But you would be very happy with the 12.5. Plus if you ever wanna suppress it, a 12.5 with a suppressor is a lot easier to manuever then a 13.7 with a suppressor. Just has more options and benefits with the 12.5. At least IMO.
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Thanks, you basically confirmed what I was already thinking. I don't have a centerfire can yet, but would like to get one fairly soon. Which one, I don't know yet.

Also, BCM has said that the new MMRs will be offered in the same sizes as the current KMR-A rails if that helps your decision any.
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 11:39:51 AM EDT
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12.5" LMT MRP 5.56

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12.5" LMT MRP 5.56

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Very nice. What rail is that. It looks like it uses a similar barrel nut style that the new Mk 13s and 14s use.
Link Posted: 5/19/2017 11:07:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bedouin2W:

Very nice. What rail is that. It looks like it uses a similar barrel nut style that the new Mk 13s and 14s use.
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not a rail, it's LMTs monolithic rail platform. Two cross bolts and the barrel comes out the front. I have a 12.5" 5.56 bbl, a 10.5" 300aac and a 16" lw 5.56
Link Posted: 5/20/2017 3:21:01 PM EDT
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Factory AAC 9" Upper

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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Perhaps it is time to amend the rules.  Make it SBR only??  I did not do it for fear that Lancelot would bump this thread into NFAville.  The traffic there is slow
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Originally Posted By Alaska511:
Originally Posted By TBone556: But the day I do a true mini recce (14.5 pinned just doesn't feel mini) I want to do a noveske 12.5
Perhaps it is time to amend the rules.  Make it SBR only??  I did not do it for fear that Lancelot would bump this thread into NFAville.  The traffic there is slow
Yes.
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I dig it.
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Originally Posted By fatkid_mayfield:
12.5" mini recce getting a workout at a Talon Defense course.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d33/joelies/file-1_zpsapglug6x.jpeg
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