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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:04:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I guess both values are hearsay, but I do believe the thread said 40 in it. Not that I could confirm that even if I wanted to. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Also it's not 40 RIS II FSP rails. Heard from junkie when he ran into Iceman at a booth last year in Ft Walton that he believed about 1,000 were made. I guess both values are hearsay, but I do believe the thread said 40 in it. Not that I could confirm that even if I wanted to. It's "about 1,000." |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:06:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
It's "about 1,000." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Also it's not 40 RIS II FSP rails. Heard from junkie when he ran into Iceman at a booth last year in Ft Walton that he believed about 1,000 were made. I guess both values are hearsay, but I do believe the thread said 40 in it. Not that I could confirm that even if I wanted to. It's "about 1,000." https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Marler is DD. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:06:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
It's "about 1,000." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Also it's not 40 RIS II FSP rails. Heard from junkie when he ran into Iceman at a booth last year in Ft Walton that he believed about 1,000 were made. I guess both values are hearsay, but I do believe the thread said 40 in it. Not that I could confirm that even if I wanted to. It's "about 1,000." yeah, 40 didn't sound right. I remember seeing them for sale all the time privately, and in stock on BCM's website like 3-5 years back. I just never bought one because they never interested me at the time. I still think if I bought one now, I would rather have a full mk18 ris II rail anyways, and my wallet would be that much happier 
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:09:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Marler is DD. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Also it's not 40 RIS II FSP rails. Heard from junkie when he ran into Iceman at a booth last year in Ft Walton that he believed about 1,000 were made. I guess both values are hearsay, but I do believe the thread said 40 in it. Not that I could confirm that even if I wanted to. It's "about 1,000." https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Marler is DD. Yes. I know Joe. Marler is Iceman on here. He was quoted saying 100 back in 2012, but he's claimed more like 1,000 after that in more recent talks. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:10:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Yes. I know Joe. Marler is Iceman on here. He was quoted saying 100 back in 2012, but he's claimed more like 1,000 after that in more recent talks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Also it's not 40 RIS II FSP rails. Heard from junkie when he ran into Iceman at a booth last year in Ft Walton that he believed about 1,000 were made. I guess both values are hearsay, but I do believe the thread said 40 in it. Not that I could confirm that even if I wanted to. It's "about 1,000." https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Marler is DD. Yes. I know Joe. Marler is Iceman on here. He was quoted saying 100 back in 2012, but he's claimed more like 1,000 after that in more recent talks. So in other words, he has no idea. And neither do we. 
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:16:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Now we have 40, 100, and 1000 (Marler is DD) https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Regardless, that number is arbitrary because they just aren't available. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:18:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Regardless, that number is arbitrary because they just aren't available. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Now we have 40, 100, and 1000 (Marler is DD) https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Regardless, that number is arbitrary because they just aren't available. Word. I know of maybe 6 or 7 at this given time. ECP, Ryan, the one indoorsman had, new guy, cwwjd, hatexoc, and somebody else that I'm drawing a blank on (has a avatar of a wave) |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:27:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Not sure if the clone gods will let me play in this thread with it, but you'll see it one way or t'other. Sent a lower off last week for engraving. Once it gets back, I'll submit the forms and let the wait begin. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By RTUtah:
Mod0/CQBR pic request: dude's carbine is unsuppressed and outfitted with a FF RAS, PEQ-2A, light, and he's in a ditch, firing from the right side of the frame to the left. Think he's with some indig personnel. You building one? I have a boner in anticipation.... I'm building what I call a plausible clone: all parts seen in-the-wild on various rifles and carbines, but nothing pieced together into one build. I've got the carbine FF RAS, Colt Fiberlite, KAC 300m rear BUIS, SureFire Scout, EXPS3, and a 12.5" barrel so it can host my AEM5. And some spray paint. Looking forward to seeing this.  Not sure if the clone gods will let me play in this thread with it, but you'll see it one way or t'other. Sent a lower off last week for engraving. Once it gets back, I'll submit the forms and let the wait begin. The 12.5 will get shit in here, but I say post it anyways, at least temporarily. Because that parts list is going to be too legit to quit. 
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Posted: 11/11/2015 4:14:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Word. I know of maybe 6 or 7 at this given time. ECP, Ryan, the one indoorsman had, new guy, cwwjd, hatexoc, and somebody else that I'm drawing a blank on (has a avatar of a wave) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Now we have 40, 100, and 1000 (Marler is DD) https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Regardless, that number is arbitrary because they just aren't available. Word. I know of maybe 6 or 7 at this given time. ECP, Ryan, the one indoorsman had, new guy, cwwjd, hatexoc, and somebody else that I'm drawing a blank on (has a avatar of a wave) Lol, if you're referring to me. Technically, this account is close to 3 years older than yours (I don't know how the hell you have 11,000 posts already, damn  ), and I also had an account here around the 2006 time frame, but I changed my email and forgot the password. Because I'm an idiot, that's why.
Okay, pic thread: Just the tip...  </a>PSX_20151111_030143 by Alex Legore, on Flickr" />
And just to rub it in...  PSX_20151111_030847 by Alex Legore, on Flickr
I don't know what the hell all those numbers mean, but I know what that first part stands for, lol. 
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Posted: 11/11/2015 4:37:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20:
Lol, if you're referring to me. Technically, this account is close to 3 years older than yours (I don't know how the hell you have 11,000 posts already, damn ), and I also had an account here around the 2006 time frame, but I changed my email and forgot the password. Because I'm an idiot, that's why.
Okay, pic thread: Just the tip... http://<a href=https://farm1.staticflickr.com/579/22924571852_75abb7048e_b.jpg</a>PSX_20151111_030143 by Alex Legore, on Flickr" /> And just to rub it in... <a href="https://flic.kr/p/AWXawV" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5762/22937984125_93eaa7e802_b.jpg</a>PSX_20151111_030847 by Alex Legore, on Flickr I don't know what the hell all those numbers mean, but I know what that first part stands for, lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Now we have 40, 100, and 1000 (Marler is DD) https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Regardless, that number is arbitrary because they just aren't available. Word. I know of maybe 6 or 7 at this given time. ECP, Ryan, the one indoorsman had, new guy, cwwjd, hatexoc, and somebody else that I'm drawing a blank on (has a avatar of a wave) Lol, if you're referring to me. Technically, this account is close to 3 years older than yours (I don't know how the hell you have 11,000 posts already, damn ), and I also had an account here around the 2006 time frame, but I changed my email and forgot the password. Because I'm an idiot, that's why.
Okay, pic thread: Just the tip... http://<a href=https://farm1.staticflickr.com/579/22924571852_75abb7048e_b.jpg</a>PSX_20151111_030143 by Alex Legore, on Flickr" /> And just to rub it in... <a href="https://flic.kr/p/AWXawV" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5762/22937984125_93eaa7e802_b.jpg</a>PSX_20151111_030847 by Alex Legore, on Flickr I don't know what the hell all those numbers mean, but I know what that first part stands for, lol. I was referring to you being new to the thread, and didn't remember your username. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 6:23:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnnySasaki20]
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Gotcha.
Edit: Btw, I have to thank you for letting me know they only made so many of them. Do you even realize how close I was to introducing it to Mr. Krylon? I guess this one just volunteered. And that brings up another thing. Anyone have any suggestions? I was thinking like a whitish with a hint of a slightly darker color mixed around. Sort of like this: https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5700/21980322895_6a1b9890ac_b.jpg
Anyone know what colors they are, and tips on applying it? Types of paint to use, possible stencils, et cetera?  </a>PSX_20151011_085145 by Alex Legore, on Flickr" />
 PSX_20151106_140920 by Alex Legore, on Flickr" />
Right after I put the new flash hider on it. The old one was apparently torqued on by the hand of god. Either that or locktite. It took the freezer treatment (on the cold as hell setting), and then took a bath in Kroil for two days and still won't even budge. I initially thought I put it on, but that was the other one. I'm gonna have a word with my local gunsmith... |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 8:04:42 AM EDT
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There are definitely more than 40 FSP rails. When they were being sold commercially both Rainier and BCM stocked them, but they didn't sell. IIRC, BCM bought Rainier's remaining stock and after those sold they were gone for good.
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Posted: 11/11/2015 8:33:32 AM EDT
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Johnny,
Use a little heat on it from those handheld propane torches, that might work for you to get it to break free. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 8:40:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CloneDiseased:  no, no, no, no, no.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CloneDiseased: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By CloneDiseased: Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman: http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/azoutdoorsman/20130615_133332_zps4371ff35.jpg  He did but I think he sold it if I'm not mistaken no, no, no, no, no. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 8:53:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
I still have two in storage in another state. I had four at one point. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By CloneDiseased:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By CloneDiseased:
Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/azoutdoorsman/20130615_133332_zps4371ff35.jpg
He did but I think he sold it if I'm not mistaken no, no, no, no, no.
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Posted: 11/11/2015 8:53:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman: I still have two in storage in another state. I had four at one point. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman: Originally Posted By CloneDiseased: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By CloneDiseased: Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman: http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/azoutdoorsman/20130615_133332_zps4371ff35.jpg He did but I think he sold it if I'm not mistaken no, no, no, no, no. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 9:00:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TNW]
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And me^.
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Posted: 11/11/2015 9:00:31 AM EDT
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You guys are clone whores....
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Posted: 11/11/2015 9:06:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese: You guys are clone whores....  |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 9:56:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Word. I know of maybe 6 or 7 at this given time. ECP, Ryan, the one indoorsman had, new guy, cwwjd, hatexoc, and somebody else that I'm drawing a blank on (has a avatar of a wave) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Now we have 40, 100, and 1000 (Marler is DD) https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Regardless, that number is arbitrary because they just aren't available. Word. I know of maybe 6 or 7 at this given time. ECP, Ryan, the one indoorsman had, new guy, cwwjd, hatexoc, and somebody else that I'm drawing a blank on (has a avatar of a wave) Hey! I've got one too. 
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Posted: 11/11/2015 9:59:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AmericanCheese:
I find it comical that there are people in here with 100 posts in three years, who don't even own a clone, let alone anything that remotely resembles an issued rifle bitching about me commenting on bad levers, and how I don't contribute anything.....  I own a few clone rifles, and still carry an issued rifle on a daily basis. Ive never said you don't contribute anything, I actually think you have some nice clones (which is the only reason I haven't added you to the ignore list as of yet) 100 posts in three years? Yep I'm not addicted to this site like others *Cough* milspec or yourself cough*
Lets keep it drama free whether you bad lever or not dudes.
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:16:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
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NICE!
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:17:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:26:55 AM EDT
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Is $190 a decent price for an FSP RIS to cut down?
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:34:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW:
Is $190 a decent price for an FSP RIS to cut down? It's better than some I've seen, but personally I'd want to hit $175.....just my opinion though |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:36:27 AM EDT
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I picked one up from the EE 2 days ago to start my clone project.
Check out this listing: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_159/1487172_Colt_DD_CQBR_block_II_upper.html I contacted this seller about buying the rail separate. He said he would take $400 for it. Maybe shoot him an email. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:43:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jparish62: It's better than some I've seen, but personally I'd want to hit $175.....just my opinion though Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jparish62: Originally Posted By TNW: Is $190 a decent price for an FSP RIS to cut down? It's better than some I've seen, but personally I'd want to hit $175.....just my opinion though ...that's what I got mine for. My guess is they'll do it again, so wait it out...or set a pretty low bar for resales.
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:47:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jparish62: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jparish62: Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman: Originally Posted By CloneDiseased: Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: Originally Posted By CloneDiseased soooooooooo, do you owns this, or is this just a random pic of badassery? He did but I think he sold it if I'm not mistaken no, no, no, no, no.When I moved this summer I only took four uppers total, and have decided I can't really justify more than two, so I dumped the block 2 stuff since its heavier and doesn't benefit me in any way. The block 2 stuff looks cooler, but it's heavier and since my arms are short and I don't use nv or lasers, the extra rail space is not beneficial for me or my shooting style. I've got a few more pics of fsp mk18 risii stuff, but they aren't really clone pics. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:47:40 AM EDT
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I need to correct myself. The listing was for an complete CQBR with the standard MK18 RIS II FDE NOT the FSP sight that has been discussed the past couple of pages. The response was directed for SilentMark. SilentMark I sent you an IM and email with this same message.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alshooter1526:
I picked one up from the EE 2 days ago to start my clone project. Check out this listing: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_159/1487172_Colt_DD_CQBR_block_II_upper.html I contacted this seller about buying the rail separate. He said he would take $400 for it. Maybe shoot him an email. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:53:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Word. I know of maybe 6 or 7 at this given time. ECP, Ryan, the one indoorsman had, new guy, cwwjd, hatexoc, and somebody else that I'm drawing a blank on (has a avatar of a wave) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Now we have 40, 100, and 1000 (Marler is DD) https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=2&f=382&t=225127 Regardless, that number is arbitrary because they just aren't available. Word. I know of maybe 6 or 7 at this given time. ECP, Ryan, the one indoorsman had, new guy, cwwjd, hatexoc, and somebody else that I'm drawing a blank on (has a avatar of a wave) I'll play 
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Posted: 11/11/2015 10:55:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryDude, when I bought them, no one wanted them. I know I didn't pay more than $280 for any of them, all new in the foil. Except one was a factory 10.3 DD upper that I ordered, which I paid retail for. I'd gladly sell them for a premium but I probably won't get back to them for at least a year.
When I moved this summer I only took four uppers total, and have decided I can't really justify more than two, so I dumped the block 2 stuff since its heavier and doesn't benefit me in any way. The block 2 stuff looks cooler, but it's heavier and since my arms are short and I don't use nv or lasers, the extra rail space is not beneficial for me or my shooting style. I've got a few more pics of fsp mk18 risii stuff, but they aren't really clone pics. Damn, if you get back to those I might have to take one off your hands |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:06:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman: Dude, when I bought them, no one wanted them. I know I didn't pay more than $280 for any of them, all new in the foil. Except one was a factory 10.3 DD upper that I ordered, which I paid retail for. I'd gladly sell them for a premium but I probably won't get back to them for at least a year. When I moved this summer I only took four uppers total, and have decided I can't really justify more than two, so I dumped the block 2 stuff since its heavier and doesn't benefit me in any way. The block 2 stuff looks cooler, but it's heavier and since my arms are short and I don't use nv or lasers, the extra rail space is not beneficial for me or my shooting style. I've got a few more pics of fsp mk18 risii stuff, but they aren't really clone pics. Premium or no premium |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:19:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jparish62:
It's better than some I've seen, but personally I'd want to hit $175.....just my opinion though Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jparish62:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Is $190 a decent price for an FSP RIS to cut down? It's better than some I've seen, but personally I'd want to hit $175.....just my opinion though Maybe I'm missing something, but why would it cost that much to cut it down? Is it really that involved or is it just because you need a mill? |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:23:10 AM EDT
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Got it back, now it's time to finish it off. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:38:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By byou79: Maybe I'm missing something, but why would it cost that much to cut it down? Is it really that involved or is it just because you need a mill? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By byou79: Originally Posted By jparish62: Originally Posted By TNW: Is $190 a decent price for an FSP RIS to cut down? It's better than some I've seen, but personally I'd want to hit $175.....just my opinion though Maybe I'm missing something, but why would it cost that much to cut it down? Is it really that involved or is it just because you need a mill? I think he means it $190.00 a good price to pay for the rail itself, that he would plan to cut down. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:41:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mad4wd:
Johnny, Use a little heat on it from those handheld propane torches, that might work for you to get it to break free. I don't have one. At least I don't think. Would a heat gun work? The one I have goes up to 1000, but i don't know if that's enough. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:43:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alshooter1526:
I need to correct myself. The listing was for an complete CQBR with the standard MK18 RIS II FDE NOT the FSP sight that has been discussed the past couple of pages. The response was directed for SilentMark. SilentMark I sent you an IM and email with this same message. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alshooter1526:
I need to correct myself. The listing was for an complete CQBR with the standard MK18 RIS II FDE NOT the FSP sight that has been discussed the past couple of pages. The response was directed for SilentMark. SilentMark I sent you an IM and email with this same message. Originally Posted By Alshooter1526:
I picked one up from the EE 2 days ago to start my clone project. Check out this listing: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_159/1487172_Colt_DD_CQBR_block_II_upper.html I contacted this seller about buying the rail separate. He said he would take $400 for it. Maybe shoot him an email. Thanks for the info but someone beat me to it. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:46:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By H1H0AG:
<a href="http://s484.photobucket.com/user/h1h0ag/media/IMG_1861_zpswogq7vob.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr201/h1h0ag/IMG_1861_zpswogq7vob.jpg</a> Got it back, now it's time to finish it off. Shouldn't it be marked M4A1 and have Auto instead of Burst markings? |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:47:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By byou79:
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would it cost that much to cut it down? Is it really that involved or is it just because you need a mill? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By byou79:
Originally Posted By jparish62:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Is $190 a decent price for an FSP RIS to cut down? It's better than some I've seen, but personally I'd want to hit $175.....just my opinion though Maybe I'm missing something, but why would it cost that much to cut it down? Is it really that involved or is it just because you need a mill? $180 for the rail.. not to cut it. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 11:56:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnnySasaki20]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman:Dude, when I bought them, no one wanted them.
So did I. I'm actually wondering what's with all the fuss over them now. I'm mean, I bought it because I thought it looked badass back then, but that was when the new Mod 1's were first coming out and everyone had to have a flat DD Mk18 clone at the time, lol. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 12:02:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By H1H0AG: http://i484.photobucket.com/albums/rr201/h1h0ag/IMG_1861_zpswogq7vob.jpg Got it back, now it's time to finish it off. Braceman? |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 12:13:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20: So did I. I'm actually wondering what's with all the fuss over them now. I'm mean, I bought it because I thought it looked badass back then, but that was when the new Mod 1's were first coming out and everyone had to have a flat DD Mk18 clone at the time, lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20: Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:Dude, when I bought them, no one wanted them. So did I. I'm actually wondering what's with all the fuss over them now. I'm mean, I bought it because I thought it looked badass back then, but that was when the new Mod 1's were first coming out and everyone had to have a flat DD Mk18 clone at the time, lol. Same with the GL/SSC rail. 12.5" barrels are one of the least popular barrel lengths compared to 10.3/5", 11.5", 14.5", 16", 18", and 20". But because only a few of those GL/SSC DD RISII rails were ever produced, people have offered to trade ACOGS or buy them for $800+. Same with the 4P flash hiders. They aren't available for retail sale so people pay 4x retail. It's really because of these threads. People wouldn't know they existed otherwise, and just want to show off their rare parts. Clones' disease RIS II M4A1, GL/SSC, and MK18: Surefire SF-556 3 Prong and 4 Prong: (Surefire supposedly has said the 3P is more effective at eliminating flash, but the 4P lines up properly with their SOCOM Silencers and commands a 400% markup in some cases). |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 12:18:11 PM EDT
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That or you make your own like Stoner
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Posted: 11/11/2015 12:47:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbye: Damn, if you get back to those I might have to take one off your hands Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbye: Dude, when I bought them, no one wanted them. I know I didn't pay more than $280 for any of them, all new in the foil. Except one was a factory 10.3 DD upper that I ordered, which I paid retail for. I'd gladly sell them for a premium but I probably won't get back to them for at least a year. When I moved this summer I only took four uppers total, and have decided I can't really justify more than two, so I dumped the block 2 stuff since its heavier and doesn't benefit me in any way. The block 2 stuff looks cooler, but it's heavier and since my arms are short and I don't use nv or lasers, the extra rail space is not beneficial for me or my shooting style. I've got a few more pics of fsp mk18 risii stuff, but they aren't really clone pics. Damn, if you get back to those I might have to take one off your hands |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:02:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
I have a list already, but I'll put you and CloneDiseased on it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By sbye:
Dude, when I bought them, no one wanted them. I know I didn't pay more than $280 for any of them, all new in the foil. Except one was a factory 10.3 DD upper that I ordered, which I paid retail for. I'd gladly sell them for a premium but I probably won't get back to them for at least a year.
When I moved this summer I only took four uppers total, and have decided I can't really justify more than two, so I dumped the block 2 stuff since its heavier and doesn't benefit me in any way. The block 2 stuff looks cooler, but it's heavier and since my arms are short and I don't use nv or lasers, the extra rail space is not beneficial for me or my shooting style. I've got a few more pics of fsp mk18 risii stuff, but they aren't really clone pics. Damn, if you get back to those I might have to take one off your hands Even though I am a little late, go ahead and put me on that list too...I have had a WTB ad posted for months that I am sure will never be answered...
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:20:19 PM EDT
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Outdoorsman has a big long list of dummies
...the mk18 clone thread: bringing FSP RIS II rails and mouth-breathers to ever higher prices of stupidity I'm glad I can be a part of it all |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:31:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TinyCrumb]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By azoutdoorsman:It's only because it's scarce and no longer produced. I don't think they were ever fielded, so they are really even clones compliant technically. They were indeed fielded. The ones that were in the civi market sold by Rainier & BCM were just the left overs from the SOCOM order. How many actual uppers they got installed on before the standard rail started circulating … but, SOCOM did pay for them and they presumably were used. The run of them was done because of the SOCOM order … which is exactly why the GL/SSC never got produced (from what we've heard) is because they never ordered any. Its also why DD has stated that they won't make any more FSP rails, because SOCOM isn't ordering anymore. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:41:01 PM EDT
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The Mk18 RIS II FSP has commanded some decent coin, but it's in a different realm than the GL/SSC.
There are at the very least 100s and 100s of the FSP rails in civilian hands. Possibly, even 1,000 or so. The GL/SSC is rumored to pretty much just be possessed by Stickman, Larry Vickers, and Uncle Sam. That makes it one crazy rare handguard, and some have offered quite a lot for one. I offered Stickman $2500 cash just for the rail, for instance. And hatexoc offered Stickman a $5k KAC ECC for his complete GL/SSC upper. He didn't bite on either offer. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:53:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: They were indeed fielded. The ones that were in the civi market sold by Rainier & BCM were just the left overs from the SOCOM order. How many actual uppers they got installed on before the standard rail started circulating … but, SOCOM did pay for them and they presumably were used. The run of them was done because of the SOCOM order … which is exactly why the GL/SSC never got produced (from what we've heard) is because they never ordered any. Its also why DD has stated that they won't make any more FSP rails, because SOCOM isn't ordering anymore. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb: Originally Posted By azoutdoorsman:It's only because it's scarce and no longer produced. I don't think they were ever fielded, so they are really even clones compliant technically. They were indeed fielded. The ones that were in the civi market sold by Rainier & BCM were just the left overs from the SOCOM order. How many actual uppers they got installed on before the standard rail started circulating … but, SOCOM did pay for them and they presumably were used. The run of them was done because of the SOCOM order … which is exactly why the GL/SSC never got produced (from what we've heard) is because they never ordered any. Its also why DD has stated that they won't make any more FSP rails, because SOCOM isn't ordering anymore. |
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Posted: 11/11/2015 1:55:40 PM EDT
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