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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:23:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Do you have pics that illustrate how to differentiate an "HD" SU-230? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By 1iviper:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Can someone remind me of the benefits that the SU-230 HD has over the standard Elcan? I remember IM'ing a member on here awhile ago, and it was something to do with improved recoil resistance? I can't remember now i believe the HD is only referenced to the su230-a. the only differences are a stouter azimuth adjustment bar and red loctite applied to set screws on the azimuth adjustment. this isn't just a socom model upgrade. all spectre DR's received this update , even civilian models. it was an update done after testing with the scar 17. several companies updated optics after the scar testing , nothing wholesale but improvements for recoil resistance. eotech went with the transverse mounted battery to improve recoil resistance , it was released as the exps and xps models. Do you have pics that illustrate how to differentiate an "HD" SU-230? It's lasered into the body on the right of the serial # ETA damn you Gaston. 
Gettin there SLOWLLLLLLLYYYYYY but surely. 
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:26:44 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
All the ones I've seen are engraved up by the SN as shown http://imageshack.com/i/0706idj Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By 1iviper:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Can someone remind me of the benefits that the SU-230 HD has over the standard Elcan? I remember IM'ing a member on here awhile ago, and it was something to do with improved recoil resistance? I can't remember now i believe the HD is only referenced to the su230-a. the only differences are a stouter azimuth adjustment bar and red loctite applied to set screws on the azimuth adjustment. this isn't just a socom model upgrade. all spectre DR's received this update , even civilian models. it was an update done after testing with the scar 17. several companies updated optics after the scar testing , nothing wholesale but improvements for recoil resistance. eotech went with the transverse mounted battery to improve recoil resistance , it was released as the exps and xps models. Do you have pics that illustrate how to differentiate an "HD" SU-230? All the ones I've seen are engraved up by the SN as shown http://imageshack.com/i/0706idj that's an su230-a , 7.62mm reticle. |
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:34:14 PM EDT
[#3]
I've decided I need an elcan.
And because pic thread: 
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:34:49 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1iviper:
that's an su230-a , 7.62mm reticle. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1iviper:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By 1iviper:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Can someone remind me of the benefits that the SU-230 HD has over the standard Elcan? I remember IM'ing a member on here awhile ago, and it was something to do with improved recoil resistance? I can't remember now i believe the HD is only referenced to the su230-a. the only differences are a stouter azimuth adjustment bar and red loctite applied to set screws on the azimuth adjustment. this isn't just a socom model upgrade. all spectre DR's received this update , even civilian models. it was an update done after testing with the scar 17. several companies updated optics after the scar testing , nothing wholesale but improvements for recoil resistance. eotech went with the transverse mounted battery to improve recoil resistance , it was released as the exps and xps models. Do you have pics that illustrate how to differentiate an "HD" SU-230? All the ones I've seen are engraved up by the SN as shown http://imageshack.com/i/0706idj that's an su230-a , 7.62mm reticle. Dont the 5.56s look the same too? |
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:36:51 PM EDT
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I'll need to check my 230 later. Pretty sure there's no HD at the end of the serial number though.
I hate you all btw. I'm now gonna want an HD 230. |
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:38:14 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll need to check my 230 later. Pretty sure there's no HD at the end of the serial number though. I hate you all btw. I'm now gonna want an HD 230. Haha no reason for it bro. You'll be hard pressed to break that Elcan, esp with 5.56/.223 recoil. I wouldn't even sweat it honestly. |
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:42:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gaston4]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll need to check my 230 later. Pretty sure there's no HD at the end of the serial number though. I hate you all btw. I'm now gonna want an HD 230. Is yours SU-230 marked Ryan? Or I guess either of yours 
And what reticles? |
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:42:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DontBuryMe]
[#8]
There's a demo-B (what most people in the EE would call "like new") grade Elcan SpecterDR FDE on the Sample List. $1900.
I've seen a couple of people asking about who has the best deals and what not. |
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:46:59 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Movistar:
I've decided I need an elcan. And because pic thread: <a href="http://s902.photobucket.com/user/Fivejackmans/media/image.jpg4_zpsuz2wmf5t.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/Fivejackmans/image.jpg4_zpsuz2wmf5t.jpg</a> What brand/color spray did you use on this? I dig it, alot. |
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:48:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CountryHam]
[#10]
I haven't posted here in a while
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:53:05 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
What brand/color spray did you use on this? I dig it, alot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
I've decided I need an elcan. And because pic thread: <a href="http://s902.photobucket.com/user/Fivejackmans/media/image.jpg4_zpsuz2wmf5t.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/Fivejackmans/image.jpg4_zpsuz2wmf5t.jpg</a> What brand/color spray did you use on this? I dig it, alot. Thanks man. The upper and rail were a mix of Krylon Khaki and Krylon Brown camo paint that a mixed in a sprayer. The lower is just straight Krylon khaki camo paint. I use the gun a lot and so the natural wear pattern is what I like. |
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:55:15 PM EDT
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Anyone find tan/ brown paint that sticks to a can?
Thinking about getting a small thing of cerakote to spray on and do a few mag dumps to cure it... |
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:55:23 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Movistar:
Thanks man. The upper and rail were a mix of Krylon Khaki and Krylon Brown camo paint that a mixed in a sprayer. The lower is just straight Krylon khaki camo paint. I use the gun a lot and so the natural wear pattern is what I like. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Movistar:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
I've decided I need an elcan. And because pic thread: <a href="http://s902.photobucket.com/user/Fivejackmans/media/image.jpg4_zpsuz2wmf5t.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/Fivejackmans/image.jpg4_zpsuz2wmf5t.jpg</a> What brand/color spray did you use on this? I dig it, alot. Thanks man. The upper and rail were a mix of Krylon Khaki and Krylon Brown camo paint that a mixed in a sprayer. The lower is just straight Krylon khaki camo paint. I use the gun a lot and so the natural wear pattern is what I like. I like the color of your mix on the upper alot, makes me wish I had a sprayer to mix! I'd redo mine in that color.
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Posted: 6/14/2015 11:56:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Do you have pics that illustrate how to differentiate an "HD" SU-230? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By 1iviper:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Can someone remind me of the benefits that the SU-230 HD has over the standard Elcan? I remember IM'ing a member on here awhile ago, and it was something to do with improved recoil resistance? I can't remember now i believe the HD is only referenced to the su230-a. the only differences are a stouter azimuth adjustment bar and red loctite applied to set screws on the azimuth adjustment. this isn't just a socom model upgrade. all spectre DR's received this update , even civilian models. it was an update done after testing with the scar 17. several companies updated optics after the scar testing , nothing wholesale but improvements for recoil resistance. eotech went with the transverse mounted battery to improve recoil resistance , it was released as the exps and xps models. Do you have pics that illustrate how to differentiate an "HD" SU-230? here's the other side of the optic that gaston posted , not my pic. notice where i've circled , you can see the larger diameter azimuth adjustment bar. in the smaller circle you can see a bit of the red loctite from the set screws. 
any spectre dr with this azimuth adjustment bar is known as a gen 3b , i don't believe they laser "HD" on them anymore since all spectre dr's have the update. unless you have a full auto scar 17 i think any specre dr from a gen2 up is a great optic. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:00:25 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Anyone find tan/ brown paint that sticks to a can? Thinking about getting a small thing of cerakote to spray on and do a few mag dumps to cure it... Not krylon or rustoleum... Even if baked on 
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:00:40 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pbjunkiee:
Anyone find tan/ brown paint that sticks to a can? Thinking about getting a small thing of cerakote to spray on and do a few mag dumps to cure it... use the air dry cerakote for high heat applications 
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:02:13 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I like the color of your mix on the upper alot, makes me wish I had a sprayer to mix! I'd redo mine in that color. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
I've decided I need an elcan. And because pic thread: <a href="http://s902.photobucket.com/user/Fivejackmans/media/image.jpg4_zpsuz2wmf5t.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/Fivejackmans/image.jpg4_zpsuz2wmf5t.jpg</a> What brand/color spray did you use on this? I dig it, alot. Thanks man. The upper and rail were a mix of Krylon Khaki and Krylon Brown camo paint that a mixed in a sprayer. The lower is just straight Krylon khaki camo paint. I use the gun a lot and so the natural wear pattern is what I like. I like the color of your mix on the upper alot, makes me wish I had a sprayer to mix! I'd redo mine in that color. I got one of these at the local paint store for 6 bucks http://t.homedepot.com/p/Preval-9-oz-Complete-Spray-Gun-267/202533738/ Here are the other pics from the set tonight 
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:05:32 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
Is yours SU-230 marked Ryan? Or I guess either of yours
And what reticles? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll need to check my 230 later. Pretty sure there's no HD at the end of the serial number though. I hate you all btw. I'm now gonna want an HD 230. Is yours SU-230 marked Ryan? Or I guess either of yours
And what reticles? One is a 230: 
The other a civi: 
Both are 5.56. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:08:00 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
One is a 230: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/322C601F-65A6-49C3-B913-65C9466E7434_zpsmblnz4o0.jpg The other a civi: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/6BC27D6C-DB03-4967-B532-186BC573891C_zps9a5gbpk1.jpg Both are 5.56. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll need to check my 230 later. Pretty sure there's no HD at the end of the serial number though. I hate you all btw. I'm now gonna want an HD 230. Is yours SU-230 marked Ryan? Or I guess either of yours
And what reticles? One is a 230: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/322C601F-65A6-49C3-B913-65C9466E7434_zpsmblnz4o0.jpg The other a civi: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/6BC27D6C-DB03-4967-B532-186BC573891C_zps9a5gbpk1.jpg Both are 5.56. My rifle needs an SU230 so bad |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:14:56 AM EDT
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that's an su230-a , 7.62mm reticle. Dont the 5.56s look the same too? yes they do but i don't ever remember seeing an su230 "HD" marked. they are just known as gen 3b. i believe the su230-a's were only "HD" marked for a short while until all models carried the update. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:21:53 AM EDT
[#21]
Anyone have a good source for an Elcan rear BUIS? My 230 came without one.
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:26:24 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
One is a 230: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/322C601F-65A6-49C3-B913-65C9466E7434_zpsmblnz4o0.jpg The other a civi: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/6BC27D6C-DB03-4967-B532-186BC573891C_zps9a5gbpk1.jpg Both are 5.56. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll need to check my 230 later. Pretty sure there's no HD at the end of the serial number though. I hate you all btw. I'm now gonna want an HD 230. Is yours SU-230 marked Ryan? Or I guess either of yours
And what reticles? One is a 230: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/322C601F-65A6-49C3-B913-65C9466E7434_zpsmblnz4o0.jpg The other a civi: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/6BC27D6C-DB03-4967-B532-186BC573891C_zps9a5gbpk1.jpg Both are 5.56. /\ nice , both appear to be gen 3b's 
here's a pic i just pulled from google , it came from arfcom but it's not my pic. 
notice the front azimuth adjustment bar compared to yours , this one would be a gen 3a. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:32:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
One is a 230: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/322C601F-65A6-49C3-B913-65C9466E7434_zpsmblnz4o0.jpg The other a civi: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/6BC27D6C-DB03-4967-B532-186BC573891C_zps9a5gbpk1.jpg Both are 5.56. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
I'll need to check my 230 later. Pretty sure there's no HD at the end of the serial number though. I hate you all btw. I'm now gonna want an HD 230. Is yours SU-230 marked Ryan? Or I guess either of yours
And what reticles? One is a 230: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/322C601F-65A6-49C3-B913-65C9466E7434_zpsmblnz4o0.jpg The other a civi: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/6BC27D6C-DB03-4967-B532-186BC573891C_zps9a5gbpk1.jpg Both are 5.56. Yeah both of yours look to have the upgraded azimuth adjuster, so there are just as good as the HD marked ones. Thanks for the info viper |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:45:19 AM EDT
[#24]
Nice. Both 3bs.
An SU-230 marked 3b with upgraded ARMS levers was a huge score. With the cash and stuff I traded towards it...I'm in under $1700 total too.
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:50:38 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
A1 lowers.... Great, now I need another clone. Also, the guys with RRs can call themselves correct, now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Nameless_Hobo:
Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By AstraPat:
I really like running a KAC 300 on the CQBR. However, with the 553, it hangs over the receiver by a notch with buis installed. My thumb naturally likes to hold the gun wrapped around the delta ring when carrying, slung, etc... That works great with no BUIS. I'm thinking moving the 553 back to the 14.5 URG, RIS II FSB, and picking up a EXPS for the CQBR. I can imagine the EXPS on a block I URG works pretty well, real estate wise. I need another RDS regardless so that both URGs are dressed properly. This would have been done a long time ago but kids are dern expensive
http://i.imgur.com/S99phen.jpg http://i.imgur.com/GfNqi8N.jpg EXPS and other Block II stuff on a Block I upper is one of my all time favorite combos! A1 lowers.... Great, now I need another clone. Also, the guys with RRs can call themselves correct, now. Some of the few actual MK 18s in this thread... ~Augee |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 5:43:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: KILLERB6]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW:
Thanks. So you guys think an H3 will smooth it out? By definition, yes. That and a Sprinco Blue. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 5:44:17 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW:
Yeah I don't need smooth... So much as to alleviate the 1:00 ejection... Now you've done it: here in the clone community, as long as the brass comes out of the gun, it's good...we don't care about no steekin' clock position. 
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Posted: 6/15/2015 7:20:24 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6:
Now you've done it: here in the clone community, as long as the brass comes out of the gun, it's good...we don't care about no steekin' clock position. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Yeah I don't need smooth... So much as to alleviate the 1:00 ejection... Now you've done it: here in the clone community, as long as the brass comes out of the gun, it's good...we don't care about no steekin' clock position. I have witnessed on multiple occasions people getting bent out of shape at the range because their brass wasn't landing in a neat little pile in the same spot. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 7:22:12 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
I have witnessed on multiple occasions people getting bent out of shape at the range because their brass wasn't landing in a neat little pile in the same spot. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret:
Originally Posted By KILLERB6:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Yeah I don't need smooth... So much as to alleviate the 1:00 ejection... Now you've done it: here in the clone community, as long as the brass comes out of the gun, it's good...we don't care about no steekin' clock position. I have witnessed on multiple occasions people getting bent out of shape at the range because their brass wasn't landing in a neat little pile in the same spot. Well, even 1:00 ejections can still all land in a neat little pile in the same spot.
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Posted: 6/15/2015 8:41:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
EOTech "experts," is it pretty typical for the reticle to be this fuzzy: http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p500/AR-Ryan21/0E75AA3A-EDC7-4DE3-BBDF-5FAE430C2305_zpsmbuqpzgk.jpg Honestly, that picture makes it look far better than it actually is as well. The reticle is crazy fuzzy to my eye. On any brightness setting, on any background, etc, etc. While I haven't personally owned an EOTech for about 3 years now, I have used plenty of them, and looked through plenty of them as well. I even shot with an EXPS3-0 just a few months ago for a good bit. Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me, but I don't recall ever encountering one with the reticle even close to this fuzzy. The reticles tend to be far more crisp than this from my memory. And we're talking this one is so fuzzy that I can barely distinguish the bottom of the circle from the center dot when I look through it. The 6th pic in this listing would be a great example: Click That reticle is very crisp, and not fuzzy at all. My reticle is the polar opposite of that, and they were both manufactured the same month, and are the exact same models. Is this kind of variation typical, or is mine atypical? Do you have vision problems? Because my left eye that is very near sighted and whenever I look through an eotech with that eye I can barely make out the reticle; looks like a big red blur. But when I use my right eye (the good one), it looks as crisp as ever. I own and have used a lot of eotechs and it's the same thing with everyone, for me at least. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 9:05:46 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
That seems to be in line with what I remember hearing about them. Were they ever sold commercially? And do you or anyone else know what what you can buy a tan Elcan MRDS mount for these days? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gaston4:
Originally Posted By Tmender03:
Originally Posted By gaston4:
Can someone remind me of the benefits that the SU-230 HD has over the standard Elcan? I remember IM'ing a member on here awhile ago, and it was something to do with improved recoil resistance? I can't remember now Allegedly it was "hardened" for the SCAR. I don't think I've seen an "HD" model in the wild, and my overrun isn't, and I've had no issues with it in the 5 years I've had it now. That seems to be in line with what I remember hearing about them. Were they ever sold commercially? And do you or anyone else know what what you can buy a tan Elcan MRDS mount for these days? All they offer these days is black, I merely painted mine. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 9:10:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ShiftSix]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6:
By definition, yes. That and a Sprinco Blue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6:
Originally Posted By TNW:
Thanks. So you guys think an H3 will smooth it out? By definition, yes. That and a Sprinco Blue. fwiw my dd barreled upper was doing the same thing when I added the surefire can. Already was running a H2, so I grabbed the MicroMOA gasblock and its perfect. Even leaving the setting on the .073 setting is night and day better than the factory .082, and having the option of an even smaller .052 is perfect when I want to run some normal 5.56 powered stuff is great. Definitely a great product |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 11:08:46 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jBoy723:
Prior to Dan's group buy thread, I asked about intererst in them as well because I had a guy that used to work for Spikes who was willing to get DD to make them and at the time, the minimum was 30 rails but, that guy would only have sold them as complete uppers. He was trying to get his own business going and wanted to get his name out there. He was going to use Douglas Barrels and Spike NiB BCG in the uppers but, I could only get roughly 10 people to commit at the time. Not sure if it would have ever came to be but, this guy was pretty well connected so, never say never. Guess that dreams long gone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jBoy723:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
And knowing how rare they are im sure most of us would buy at least 1 maybe 2. I would buy 2-3 for sure. Exactly. I'd buy 3-5 without question. Would at the very least want two to use right away, and one as a spare/extra. Would possibly pick up a couple as investments as well. I have a couple local buddies who would do similarly. I can easily think of 20 of those selling just between me and a few of my local shooting buddies. They'd sell 100 plus in no time. Prior to Dan's group buy thread, I asked about intererst in them as well because I had a guy that used to work for Spikes who was willing to get DD to make them and at the time, the minimum was 30 rails but, that guy would only have sold them as complete uppers. He was trying to get his own business going and wanted to get his name out there. He was going to use Douglas Barrels and Spike NiB BCG in the uppers but, I could only get roughly 10 people to commit at the time. Not sure if it would have ever came to be but, this guy was pretty well connected so, never say never. Guess that dreams long gone. Has anyone contacted one of the retailers see if they would sponsor a group buy? For example, operation parts, boltcarrier, rainier, etc, etc, etc? |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 11:19:28 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nchapa:
Has anyone contacted one of the retailers see if they would sponsor a group buy? For example, operation parts, boltcarrier, rainier, etc, etc, etc? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nchapa:
Originally Posted By jBoy723:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
And knowing how rare they are im sure most of us would buy at least 1 maybe 2. I would buy 2-3 for sure. Exactly. I'd buy 3-5 without question. Would at the very least want two to use right away, and one as a spare/extra. Would possibly pick up a couple as investments as well. I have a couple local buddies who would do similarly. I can easily think of 20 of those selling just between me and a few of my local shooting buddies. They'd sell 100 plus in no time. Prior to Dan's group buy thread, I asked about intererst in them as well because I had a guy that used to work for Spikes who was willing to get DD to make them and at the time, the minimum was 30 rails but, that guy would only have sold them as complete uppers. He was trying to get his own business going and wanted to get his name out there. He was going to use Douglas Barrels and Spike NiB BCG in the uppers but, I could only get roughly 10 people to commit at the time. Not sure if it would have ever came to be but, this guy was pretty well connected so, never say never. Guess that dreams long gone. Has anyone contacted one of the retailers see if they would sponsor a group buy? For example, operation parts, boltcarrier, rainier, etc, etc, etc? A retailer did offer to sponsor Dan's, in that thread. DD said it just wasn't doable. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 11:54:24 AM EDT
[#35]
This is for the SSC/GL rail correct? I would be in but I would prefer another run of MK18 FSP rails...
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Posted: 6/15/2015 11:59:08 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe: A retailer did offer to sponsor Dan's, in that thread. DD said it just wasn't doable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe: Originally Posted By nchapa: Originally Posted By jBoy723: Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21: Originally Posted By brodband8: And knowing how rare they are im sure most of us would buy at least 1 maybe 2. I would buy 2-3 for sure. Exactly. I'd buy 3-5 without question. Would at the very least want two to use right away, and one as a spare/extra. Would possibly pick up a couple as investments as well. I have a couple local buddies who would do similarly. I can easily think of 20 of those selling just between me and a few of my local shooting buddies. They'd sell 100 plus in no time. Prior to Dan's group buy thread, I asked about intererst in them as well because I had a guy that used to work for Spikes who was willing to get DD to make them and at the time, the minimum was 30 rails but, that guy would only have sold them as complete uppers. He was trying to get his own business going and wanted to get his name out there. He was going to use Douglas Barrels and Spike NiB BCG in the uppers but, I could only get roughly 10 people to commit at the time. Not sure if it would have ever came to be but, this guy was pretty well connected so, never say never. Guess that dreams long gone. Has anyone contacted one of the retailers see if they would sponsor a group buy? For example, operation parts, boltcarrier, rainier, etc, etc, etc? A retailer did offer to sponsor Dan's, in that thread. DD said it just wasn't doable. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:01:03 PM EDT
[#37]
it's being used as an example why asking DD to make some now is probably a waste of time/energy/TCP packets.
so, sort of. yes.
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:09:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedFerret: it's being used as an example why asking DD to make some now is probably a waste of time/energy/TCP packets. so, sort of. yes. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:10:42 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Meh, at least it added to my post count
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dangerdan:
Originally Posted By ArmedFerret:
it's being used as an example why asking DD to make some now is probably a waste of time/energy/TCP packets. so, sort of. yes.
only halal posts count.... |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 12:36:46 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW:
This is for the SSC/GL rail correct? I would be in but I would prefer another run of MK18 FSP rails... I was just speaking in general, but yea i would be more interested in a mk18 fsp run to replace the one that ryan forced me to trade
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Posted: 6/15/2015 2:49:31 PM EDT
[#41]
Something hinky going on with 4Ps on eBay: the 4P someone posted earlier went for $305...not bad...hope it was one of us.
"More chances to get what you want" led to a different seller with two 4P listings: buy it now for $500 and another with a starting bid of $152.50...the latter was quickly "ended by the seller due to an error in the listing". So there's another one, maybe two out there, but it looks like he want $500. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 2:53:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KILLERB6]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nchapa:
Has anyone contacted one of the retailers see if they would sponsor a group buy? For example, operation parts, boltcarrier, rainier, etc, etc, etc? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nchapa:
Originally Posted By jBoy723:
Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:
Originally Posted By brodband8:
And knowing how rare they are im sure most of us would buy at least 1 maybe 2. I would buy 2-3 for sure. Exactly. I'd buy 3-5 without question. Would at the very least want two to use right away, and one as a spare/extra. Would possibly pick up a couple as investments as well. I have a couple local buddies who would do similarly. I can easily think of 20 of those selling just between me and a few of my local shooting buddies. They'd sell 100 plus in no time. Prior to Dan's group buy thread, I asked about intererst in them as well because I had a guy that used to work for Spikes who was willing to get DD to make them and at the time, the minimum was 30 rails but, that guy would only have sold them as complete uppers. He was trying to get his own business going and wanted to get his name out there. He was going to use Douglas Barrels and Spike NiB BCG in the uppers but, I could only get roughly 10 people to commit at the time. Not sure if it would have ever came to be but, this guy was pretty well connected so, never say never. Guess that dreams long gone. Has anyone contacted one of the retailers see if they would sponsor a group buy? For example, operation parts, boltcarrier, rainier, etc, etc, etc? Who was that guy who used to have the good deals on custom DD-based uppers? Tommy's Guns or something like that. He had so much business he got behind in deliveries and the whole scheme unravelled from there. Someone like him...only that doesn't get behind in deliveries. ETA: Crap, I blew 22k on that post?!? Bedtime here. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 3:43:04 PM EDT
[#43]
Smart Gunner used to sell a bunch of custom DD stuff a few years back. Probably the same place since they basically vanished.
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Posted: 6/15/2015 4:04:34 PM EDT
[#44]
WesternSport sells a ton of custom DD uppers/stuff. They're who got all those mil overrun 10.3" barrels as well.
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Posted: 6/15/2015 5:21:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pbjunkiee]
[#45]
Pictures of surefire 4 Prong on an Block I CQBR
GOGOGOGO ETA: Instagram Picturrrreee 
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Posted: 6/15/2015 6:16:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Need a carry handle to chop... |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 7:00:09 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssemlzgjl.jpg Need a carry handle to chop... Ditched my commercial spec dd 10.3 inch barrel for one of those .70 gas port ones. Also ditched the pinned syrac gen II block. Probably all going on the ee soon. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 7:05:13 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW:
This is for the SSC/GL rail correct? I would be in but I would prefer another run of MK18 FSP rails... To be honest, I'm not sure how long the regular MK18 rails will continue to be offered, never mind anything else in that family. With the military cut backs, I've got a feeling we are going to see the RIS II series become difficult to get, or only be made with .mil orders are put in. |
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Posted: 6/15/2015 7:11:39 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Ditched my commercial spec dd 10.3 inch barrel for one of those .70 gas port ones. Also ditched the pinned syrac gen II block. Probably all going on the ee soon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssemlzgjl.jpg Need a carry handle to chop... Ditched my commercial spec dd 10.3 inch barrel for one of those .70 gas port ones. Also ditched the pinned syrac gen II block. Probably all going on the ee soon. DD offered .70 gas ports? where the hell was i to miss that announcement? 
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Posted: 6/15/2015 7:20:46 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zakk101abn:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e21/zakk101abn/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssemlzgjl.jpg Need a carry handle to chop... why no more acog?? |
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