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Posted: 10/20/2012 8:34:25 PM EDT
Have been wanting a bayonet for my rifle for awhile. Which is the best and Where can I find a good deal?  Post pics if you have a bayonet on your AR.
Link Posted: 10/20/2012 8:46:27 PM EDT
[#1]
OKC Marine issue bayonet..basicall a heavy a partially serated 8" Bowie Kbar blade full tang and peened to the lock meachanism.Real strong and tough its a great bayonet..I think its the strongest yet since a the full tang M7...hate  the M9..The USMC bayonet is way stronger and only around $30 more than M9.The Ontario knife store has them as it is Ontario madeontario knife store has great prices and carry the issue Marine combat or MK2 type knife.
Link Posted: 10/20/2012 9:08:34 PM EDT
[#2]
got to have at least one.
Link Posted: 10/20/2012 9:16:55 PM EDT
[#3]
I don't have one for my AR but I do have one for my AK only because it came with it.
If I run out of ammo in my AR, my Glock is coming out quick!!!
Link Posted: 10/20/2012 9:19:57 PM EDT
[#4]


What model is that? I want something mil-surp, but I have a carbine.

Link Posted: 10/20/2012 9:26:18 PM EDT
[#5]
My favorite is the M7B by Ontario knife company (OKC). It has the same blade as the old M7 (which is what is pictured above BTW) but with an updated grip. I don't know why, I just think it looks cool.
Link Posted: 10/20/2012 9:40:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:


What model is that? I want something mil-surp, but I have a carbine.



It's a BOC M7, It is actually a surprisingly good knife too.
When I get around to doing an M16A4 clone I'll get the Ontario USMC bayonet for that.
Link Posted: 10/20/2012 10:08:24 PM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 12:15:15 AM EDT
[#8]

My USMC Marines OKC-3S bayonet on my USGI Colt M16A2 20" upper




Various M7 bayonets from top to bottom; Israeli IDF Eikhorn Solingen, (2nd down is my same OKC-3S) Eikhorn Solingen (made in Germany), and Imperial Knife Company
Top rifle is my same M16A2 upper and the carbine below is my 16" midlength gas system carbine




My modified long handle M7 General Cutlery no longer made (bought it new in '05) on my 16" carbine gas system LMT upper


I would recommend the OKC-3S USMC bayonet if you would like to get the strongest bayonet and the M7 if you want a compact, low cost and easy to find.

Here's some info on M-16/ AR-15 bayonets.

M7 bayonet
In service: 1964
Blade length:  6.625"
Overall length: 11.9"
NSN # 1005-00-017-9701
Mfg:
Bauer Ord. Corp.
Carl Eickhorn
Colt
Colombus Milpar & Mfg.
Conetta Mfg.
Frazier Mfg.
General Cutlery
Imperial Knife

M9 bayonet
In service: 1984 to present
Blade length: 7"
Overall length: 12"
NSN # 1095-01-227-1739
Mfg:
Phrobis
Buck Knives
Lan-Cay
Ontario Knife Company

USMC OKC-3S Marines bayonet
In service: 2003 (USMC only)
Blade length: 8"
Overall length: 13"
NATO # 1095-01-521-6087
Mfg:
Ontario Knife Company


Link Posted: 10/21/2012 2:10:05 AM EDT
[#9]
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Gun show find M7 it was less the $20.00
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 4:03:38 AM EDT
[#10]
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 4:43:33 AM EDT
[#11]

No problem I will remember when the zombies attack to put it on my 20 inch.

Thanks for the concern

Link Posted: 10/21/2012 5:16:32 AM EDT
[#12]
I like my KCB77 bayonets
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 6:42:33 AM EDT
[#13]
I tracked down a hybrid conetta mk2 kbar type that was made into a bayonet but its a rarity and im not gonna drop $500 on it but it has inspired me to start playin around with making my own.In any event Marine OKC bayonet or older M7 both full tang peened lock mechanism and strong.
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 6:58:31 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


Remember a bayonet will not fit properly on a 16" barrel.  
Good point for those not in the know.



It will fit on a 14.5 pinned and welded to 16" though.





 
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 7:10:03 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Remember a bayonet will not fit properly on a 16" barrel.  
Good point for those not in the know.

It will fit on a 14.5 pinned and welded to 16" though.

 


It will not fit on a Carbine gas 16in.
It will fit on a 16in Middy gas, 14.5 and 14.7 Carbine gas, and 20in rifle.
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 8:58:44 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Remember a bayonet will not fit properly on a 16" barrel.  
Good point for those not in the know.

It will fit on a 14.5 pinned and welded to 16" though.

 


It will not fit on a Carbine gas 16in.
It will fit on a 16in Middy gas, 14.5 and 14.7 Carbine gas, and 20in rifle.


When you are referring to "It" what model bayonet are you referring to?

I have 14.5 inch barrel with the welded and pinned flash hider.

Thanks

Link Posted: 10/21/2012 10:28:11 AM EDT
[#17]
Any model bayonet made for an M16 wont fit a 16" barrel the muzzle ring ends up behind the flash hider..no worries on a 14.5 barrel or 20 inch barrel.A 16.5 inch barrel is 2" too long for the muzzle ring of the bayonet to be right on the hiders shoulder.As long as you have 5 inches of barrel between the front of the FSB and beginning of the barrels threads any standard bayonet will fit a 16" midlegnth or 14.5 carbine and 20" full size it wont fit 16" carbine and 14.5 mid legnth
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 10:36:07 AM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 10:37:12 AM EDT
[#19]



Link Posted: 10/21/2012 10:44:12 AM EDT
[#20]
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 5:28:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Heres a pic of mine
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8191/8110993518_d1a38ed01b_m.jpg
8.5 inches from back of bayonet lug to tip of A2 flash hider.
Im going to need a long ass bayonet.
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 5:30:14 PM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 5:55:30 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
As already pointed out, a 16" midlength will work, but a 16" carbine will not.  Below is a 16" midlength wearing the M9 bayonet.  

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Centurion%20Arms/Stck_4718-1024-Stick.jpg

http://stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Centurion%20Arms/Stck_4717-1024-Stick.jpg


Is there a lugged block that would work on a 16" mid gas LMT MRP?

Link Posted: 10/21/2012 6:03:35 PM EDT
[#24]
I have an M7. I have bayonet lugs so why waste them ?
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 6:05:18 PM EDT
[#25]
no but i have one for my mossberg
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 6:34:38 PM EDT
[#26]






M7 on top two pictures

Very brief history of rifle bayonets.

1905 bayonet served on the Springfield rifle issued 1905 16" blade

1905 "late" bayonet served on the US M1 Garand & Springfield rifle 42-43 16" blade.

M1 bayonet mid 43 10" blade.

1905 E1 bayonet which were cut down 16" blades 44-46 10 " blade.

M5 bayonet post war 54-55 7" blade.

M7 bayonet issued in 1964 for M16 6 3/4 long blade. Still in service.

M9 bayonet issued 1984 M16 rifle 6 3/4 blade. Current issue

Pictured below with scabbards 1905 late, M1, M5 & M7 rifle bayonets.
Link Posted: 10/21/2012 7:47:52 PM EDT
[#27]
I have few M7's  for my AR's
Might come in handy if I run out of bullets.....

Link Posted: 10/22/2012 2:39:41 AM EDT
[#28]
I wish someone would make a longer handled bayonet for a 16" barrel, with a custom wood  handle. Think they would sell good.
Link Posted: 10/22/2012 5:50:58 AM EDT
[#29]
Only for my AK.

...and mainly for decoration. If I'm going to carry a knife around it'll definitely be something else.
Link Posted: 10/22/2012 8:37:53 AM EDT
[#30]
One of the S&W ones (there are at least six combinations of finish and blade geometry).  They are made in Taiwan, but seem pretty decent.  I received it as a gift.



. . . and in scabbard:

Link Posted: 10/22/2012 10:27:29 AM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 10/22/2012 12:24:04 PM EDT
[#32]

You need something like this, CMMG used to sell them but I don't see it in their site anymore.




Link Posted: 10/22/2012 12:40:36 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
http://cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/images/278.jpg
You need something like this, CMMG used to sell them but I don't see it in their site anymore.






Awesome!  That would make cleaning so much easier!  
Link Posted: 10/22/2012 3:58:16 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Here try thi...

Heres a pic of mine
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8191/8110993518_d1a38ed01b_m.jpg
8.5 inches from back of bayonet lug to tip of A2 flash hider.
Im going to need a long ass bayonet.    

Thanks Lancelot!



Link Posted: 10/22/2012 5:47:30 PM EDT
[#35]
My father gave me an M7 right after I got my SP1, just before I left for Boot Camp.  I carried that during my time as a Marine Infantryman, even though I was issued one.  I also carried it every time I was posted with an M-16A2 as an Air Force Cop, including both trips to the sandbox.  Only once was I ever asked (during my AF time) why I had a bayonet.  My reply was simple, the Corps taught me how to use it!  I still have it, and it stays in the case with my SP1.  My father has one for his SP1, his HK-91, his M1 Carbine, and his M1 Garand.  Every fighting rifle should have a bayonet!
Link Posted: 10/22/2012 7:15:37 PM EDT
[#36]
This thread just cost me $100  
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 1:30:42 AM EDT
[#37]
Yes, only casue someone gave it to me and the Libs hate them.
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 6:49:24 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Heres a pic of mine
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8191/8110993518_d1a38ed01b_m.jpg
8.5 inches from back of bayonet lug to tip of A2 flash hider.
Im going to need a long ass bayonet.

If you're not going to change your barrel going with a long handle bayonet is one way, but there are two (or even more) ways.



Long handle bayonet are kind of hard to find but here's an expensive Colt M7 modified long bayonet for slightly under $200.

http://prebanarms.com/detail.asp?product_id=a03



You could use a bayonet lug barrel adapter available for M4 (0.750" OD) and LW (0.630 OD) barrels.

http://mapartsinc.com/productsDetail.asp?id=478&img=680512343_wed%208%20010.jpg



Bayo lug adapter shown at left side of pic.



Here's how a standard bayonet looks like improperly mounted on a 16" carbine gas system barrel, this shows a Tacticool22 barrel bayonet adapter (sleeve) to prevent the bayonet from rattling

http://www.tacticool22.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=42


The better way to avoid all these not so good solutions is to change your barrel to a 14.5" with permanently pinned extended flash suppressor or a 16" midlength gas system barrel.


Link Posted: 10/23/2012 3:38:33 PM EDT
[#39]
Thanks alpha! Very thorough! Why is the long handled bayonet so rare? Was 16 inch barrel carbine gas system used in the military?
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 3:51:56 PM EDT
[#40]
I have an M7 that I picked up at a surplus shop in Seattle. I thought it would compliment the bayonets for my Enfields, Mausers, M1s, etc.
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 3:53:12 PM EDT
[#41]
got one of those barrel adaptors as well.



damn solid.

Link Posted: 10/23/2012 3:56:53 PM EDT
[#42]
Got bayonets for all my rifles even my Ar's. Its just cool to me but no Practical use. I will post pics later.
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 4:20:42 PM EDT
[#43]
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 5:36:49 PM EDT
[#44]
Obama shows his ass again, this time on the subject of Bayonets.  The Corps sets him straight.  As I said, every fighting rifle should have a bayonet, and every rifleman should learn to use it.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/23/bayonets-still-standard-issue-despite-obama-debate-jab/
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 5:52:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
My favorite is the M7B by Ontario knife company (OKC). It has the same blade as the old M7 (which is what is pictured above BTW) but with an updated grip. I don't know why, I just think it looks cool.
http://images.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/ontario/images/6277.jpg


NOICE!


...and now your poll is inaccurate since I now own a bayonet.
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 7:28:22 PM EDT
[#46]
Accroding to POTUS there should be plenty of surplus floating around... :-\
Link Posted: 10/23/2012 7:48:29 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
This thread just cost me $100  


X2

ETA
Link Posted: 10/24/2012 6:52:48 AM EDT
[#48]
AR bayo...someplace.



Backup.  WWII USMC Corpsman's knife.
Link Posted: 10/24/2012 3:56:52 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:


It will not fit on a Carbine gas 16in.
It will fit on a 16in Middy gas, 14.5 and 14.7 Carbine gas, and 20in rifle.


An M9 bayonet does not fit on my 14.7-pinned-to-16 carbine. Adco cut it down, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that they didn't make a mistake.





Link Posted: 10/25/2012 2:34:42 AM EDT
[#50]
Do the bayonet adapter's stay tight and not move forward? For those of you that have them, do you use loctite on the screws? Thanks
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