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Posted: 4/17/2017 9:44:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: IronBalaclava]
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 10:17:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IronBalaclava:
Dragging my ass with the pics: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/MK12%20Mod%201%20SPR/DSC04598%20-%20Copy_zpspv1ocoqc.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/MK12%20Mod%201%20SPR/DSC04605%20-%20Copy_zpsgcjnab9q.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/MK12%20Mod%201%20SPR/DSC04610%20-%20Copy_zpsrrz8yxjf.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/MK12%20Mod%201%20SPR/DSC04614%20-%20Copy_zpsaklpmsmx.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/MK12%20Mod%201%20SPR/DSC04616%20-%20Copy_zpsyiukkqg3.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/MK12%20Mod%201%20SPR/DSC04622%20-%20Copy_zpsmjusztmc.jpg ETA: don't think i'm gonna be shelling out $300 for NLS ARMS #22Hs.  
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Posted: 4/17/2017 10:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tbturner47:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/24/4c/c0/244cc0a44c8671b105455b601c9d1371.jpg Which scope is this? |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 10:27:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bachn2324:
Might be a really stupid question but info on the barrel? I want a dark finish like this. CLE has coating options but I don't want to wait that long :/ lol |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 10:36:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
High Caliber Sales barrel |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 10:44:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
My guess is mark 4 2.5-8x36. By the time they went to the Holland that was the scope being used the most I think. Just a guess. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By tbturner47:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/24/4c/c0/244cc0a44c8671b105455b601c9d1371.jpg Which scope is this? |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 10:52:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bachn2324]
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I've already spend a thousand dollars into this build and it can't even shoot #CloneLife
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2017 11:15:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mrsaturn7085]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Would you mind posting a picture of your stock and what parts you ordered and explaining all that. If you don't mind. 
...and the original (already sold - no PMs, please): 
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Posted: 4/17/2017 11:46:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bachn2324:
They can finish it in different shades? |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:07:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320:
Has this been posted before? Don't recall ever seeing it, but this thread is massive so I'm willing to bet it has: Afghanistan - 2006 http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sniper-team-scan-the-nearby-hills-after-three-wounded-us-army-from-picture-id71788570 
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Posted: 4/18/2017 7:50:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6:
Looks like Barg-e-metal. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 9:44:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrsaturn7085:
p/n A613 = Gen2/3 carbine length tube, as mentioned earlier: http://i.imgur.com/J3aLIwK.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kDrolqm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/j8fsr7X.jpg ...and the original (already sold - no PMs, please): http://i.imgur.com/2PQPyoc.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrsaturn7085:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Would you mind posting a picture of your stock and what parts you ordered and explaining all that. If you don't mind. http://i.imgur.com/J3aLIwK.jpg http://i.imgur.com/kDrolqm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/j8fsr7X.jpg ...and the original (already sold - no PMs, please): http://i.imgur.com/2PQPyoc.jpg Also CLE didn't take very long at all to mill flats on my barrel and do the barrel coating. 2-3 weeks. I started reassembling my early MOD 0 upper last night with that barrel. The PRI gen 2 repro tube is a pain in the ass. I don't know who designed that nightmare but WTF!!? When I saw the baggie of 10 set screws I knew this would be bad. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 12:21:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tbturner47]
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I dont know how the original discussion of the ACE stocks went down but I found this thread from 2005.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/240223_.html Only a few pics still show up, but the ones that do all have circle latches. So far its the earliest dated pics I can find that are time-stamped. There was another thread from like 2003 but all the pics are gone. https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/173515_.html&page= I messaged user Coltm4 to see if he still had his stock or the pics. No go. Here is a pic of another circle latch from an old page on another site 
At the bottom the copyrighted date says "2001-2005" . That might not be accurate, but I feel its close. Here is a pic that was posted in 2006 
Again, another circle. This was 2006 as well. I can't tell what it is 
So far. The earliest timestamp I can find on the square latch is around the 2008-2009 time period. I'll keep looking but so far it seems the circle was indeed the first gen. Can anyone timestamp any of the pics from the theater? |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:27:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bachn2324:
I've already spend a thousand dollars into this build and it can't even shoot #CloneLife http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t456/henrygb24/IMG_0503_zpsqb0cprkr.jpg
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USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 1:41:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TahoeLT:
Well, that's because you've only spent $1000...that's just a start when it comes to cloning -Kirby |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 2:50:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mrsaturn7085]
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A few more "2004-2005" images from Google; all showing the round latch and solid end-plate loop:
I am also seeing the square latch show up around 2007 (though one image was from 2006, below): 
USAF Photo - Fort Bragg, Oct. 7, 2007: USAF Image The EARLIEST I could find of the square latch was this Saiga from 2006: 
Saiga Link May/June of 2006 appears to be the crossover point where people are posting recent builds showing both the round and square latch. Prior to that, it was only round latch stocks. You'll also notice that all 2007+ stocks with the square button use the sling swivel (or are not mounted on an AR). This seems to indicate to me that the Gen 2 stock (square latch, machined loop) was a very limited run item (~6 months), probably only sold until the remaining sling loops from the Gen 1 stocks were depleted. Case in point - 2 posts from mid-2006 showing round button stocks: Build 1 Build 2 According to images I have of PRI certificates of authenticity for Mod 0 uppers (serial no. -2, -6, and -12) re-sold to the public, the rebuilds took place on or around April 2007. I rest my case. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 3:38:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg]
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So opinions on this idea.... in the next couple days I'm going to run one of my scopes down to a laser etching place I just talked to who says they can duplicate the TS-30
A1 And TS-30 A2 Markings you see on the side of the military scopes. They seemed pretty confident and it doesn't look to hard.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 4:59:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
So opinions on this idea.... in the next couple days I'm going to run one of my scopes down to a laser etching place I just talked to who says they can duplicate the TS-30 A1 And TS-30 A2 Markings you see on the side of the military scopes. They seemed pretty confident and it doesn't look to hard. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/330914/IMG-3127-190168.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/330914/IMG-3129-190167.JPG |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 5:42:19 PM EDT
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Thanks S-D, my payment along with a token of my appreciation sent!
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 5:51:01 PM EDT
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IA, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2017 5:58:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
so what I have found is the 3 items together were $44 and some change when broken down. so basically the bore guide, ballistic card and a round count log is $45. shipping from texas to Georgia was $10 shipped priority. understand some will pay a little more than actual shipping but some will also pay less than actual shipping just because its impossible to do anything besides average the shipping costs. box,bubble wrap, tape and plastic bag to put the round count log in about $4-$5 per set. i figured $60.00 per unit. you get 1-black anodized bore guide, i heavy laminated black hills ballistic card and 1-round count log. shipped priority. I'm a little disappointed the packing and shipping jacked the price up like it did. shipping regular non-priority was only 30 cents less. i am not making a dime off these. actually with the manuals and this project i end up putting money in on things. which is totally fine. all these things are for the guys in this thread period and i enjoy doing it. i have the following people down for these. i believe if everyone on the list gets theirs i will have maybe 8-10 extra for late comers. i can not do another run of the bore guides. i bought all the guy had. i do have some extra round count log books. if somebody wants a couple extra i can include them for $4.00 each extra until they are gone. please EMAIL EMAIL EMAIL me if i missed you or any other comms. [email protected]. please contact me if you asked for multiples so i can account for them. also please everybody speak up if you have ideas to ship these any cheaper. i just didn't want to risk damage to anything since it cant be replaced.i also want to thank the people that helped out on some of the things i needed like the round count log. you know who you are. that being said i think everything came out great and everybody should really like them. KavonTN Mad4wd Sommer54 DSLMGK _B_ PRaddict Gunnut003-5 Blbennett1288 engineer5 armedferet CJWD2 Dobs13 KOBK aaron580 emc9001 hairymoose unstable johnnymoses ichiban11 NHM16 Vanquishings stampcollector bbuenme djc106 stxdobie haveblue83 prskiller tinman44 ironbalaclava ejc204 minuteman1636 t_stone daojag lonewolfgun-3 oldtusko lancecriminal coilcrafter frbaseball-round count logs only? tahoelt Thanks again for doing these. |
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Posted: 4/18/2017 8:49:03 PM EDT
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I apologize for missing any emails. I'm trying to keep it straight. I only had 25 extra round count logs made. They are about gone. The extras that is. If you have already talked to me I have yours put aside. I'll count later and see how many extra are left. If there is a big enough demand I will have more made.
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Posted: 4/18/2017 11:26:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
I apologize for missing any emails. I'm trying to keep it straight. I only had 25 extra round count logs made. They are about gone. The extras that is. If you have already talked to me I have yours put aside. I'll count later and see how many extra are left. If there is a big enough demand I will have more made.  Now let's see them finished lowers...
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:10:21 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg]
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Guys.... PLEASE DO NOT write messages in PayPal about gun related items OR that you are paying for goods and services with friends and family option. I appreciate all of your kind words and the extra dollars some of you have contributed. i can't express that enough. I also can't have my PayPal account terminated. Please be careful about that. I'm not calling anyone out publicly but I received a payment with a note that did both. I don't know how on top of that PayPal is. Hopefully it just slides by them.
Does anyone have any experience with this situation? Please email me. I'm trying to decide if I should just shut it down for a day or two in order to see what happens. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:21:11 AM EDT
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I'm going to show my ass here, but....
The only mk12 optics are: Leupy 2.5-8x36 (3-9) M2 Leupy 3.5-10 M3 NF 2.5-10x24 NF 3.5-15x50 Correct? |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:27:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:40:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel:
I'm going to show my ass here, but.... The only mk12 optics are: Leupy 2.5-8x36 (3-9) M2 Leupy 3.5-10 M3 NF 2.5-10x24 NF 3.5-15x50 Correct? |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:41:11 AM EDT
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Are M1 turrets kosher-ish?
I'm glad I bought my TS30 when I did.... Whew. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:47:40 AM EDT
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So I decided to go back to the A1....so waiting on more parts to come in and I found some colt ambi-safeties with the dual long arms on the ee so those should get here today. I'm probably going to hang on to the sopmod but if anyone is in desperate need of a gen 1 let me know. Anyway pic thread....I'll post some more up when the rest of my parts get here.
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Posted: 4/19/2017 10:54:47 AM EDT
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given up hope finding an ARMS #38 rail, 2 years of scouring EE and ebay
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Posted: 4/19/2017 11:39:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drago6:
given up hope finding an ARMS #38 rail, 2 years of scouring EE and ebay |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2017 12:27:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013:
Keep at it....I found mine by luck. I happened to check the thread just as someone posted they had one. You never know what will pop up when, it gets discouraging but then it makes it a million times better when you find it. I will say the well seems to have gone dry on those. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 12:45:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrsaturn7085:
Yet another part that I simply called A.R.M.S. with the correct part number and they had it as new-old-stock... I'm showing my hand here, but since I have no rare parts I'm currently hunting for, you'd be truly surprised how many 'unobtainium' parts I've easily sourced for Mk 12, Mk 14, and Mk 18 clones over the last 5-6 years by simply calling the manufacturer and talking to the right person. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrsaturn7085:
Originally Posted By Dobs013:
Keep at it....I found mine by luck. I happened to check the thread just as someone posted they had one. You never know what will pop up when, it gets discouraging but then it makes it a million times better when you find it. I will say the well seems to have gone dry on those. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 1:32:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chenault]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrsaturn7085:
Yet another part that I simply called A.R.M.S. with the correct part number and they had it as new-old-stock... I'm showing my hand here, but since I have no rare parts I'm currently hunting for, you'd be truly surprised how many 'unobtainium' parts I've easily sourced for Mk 12, Mk 14, and Mk 18 clones over the last 5-6 years by simply calling the manufacturer and talking to the right person. Those days of calling up the company and seeing what they have in the back are pretty much over for the MK12 stuff |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 1:56:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chenault:
They had the mod 1 rail that was all picitinny for awhile but are out now. Those days of calling up the company and seeing what they have in the back are pretty much over for the MK12 stuff |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 2:43:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Guys.... PLEASE DO NOT write messages in PayPal about gun related items OR that you are paying for goods and services with friends and family option. I appreciate all of your kind words and the extra dollars some of you have contributed. i can't express that enough. I also can't have my PayPal account terminated. Please be careful about that. I'm not calling anyone out publicly but I received a payment with a note that did both. I don't know how on top of that PayPal is. Hopefully it just slides by them. Does anyone have any experience with this situation? Please email me. I'm trying to decide if I should just shut it down for a day or two in order to see what happens.
Mahalo 
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2017 3:05:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mrsaturn7085]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dobs013:
What model number 38 though? Was it a peq-2-3 or a mod 1? The mod 1 is technically only correct for the 6.8 proto In late 2014 I directly ordered a "38SPR PEQ2-3" (Gen 3) and in late 2015 I ordered a "38SPRPEQ MOD-L" which is the PEQ-2-3 for Gen 1/2 hand guards. All I had to do was send an e-mail and get the correct part no. sorted out. As mentioned in the last page or two, I called up DoubleStar and ordered a square-latch carbine buffer tube over the last month. I'm local to Crimson Trace and walked right into their HQ and bought an IR laser for a HK45C-T within the last year or two. You'd be shocked what you can easily find when you stop assuming things are only available on the second-hand or grey market. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 4:02:19 PM EDT
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What's the consensus on running a non-illuminated 2.5-8x36?
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2017 4:32:16 PM EDT
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Totally kosher. Seen in the wild on several earlier mod 1's
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Posted: 4/19/2017 5:49:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CoilCrafter:
Totally kosher. Seen in the wild on several earlier mod 1's Those early ones had a unique housing for the elevation/windage turrets. It's not a blanket thing. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 7:17:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Negative, it's very subjective. Those early ones had a unique housing for the elevation/windage turrets. It's not a blanket thing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By CoilCrafter:
Totally kosher. Seen in the wild on several earlier mod 1's Those early ones had a unique housing for the elevation/windage turrets. It's not a blanket thing. M1 knobs are a no go PERIOD. they never have been accepted. I tried and pled my case for months because I found 3-9 with M1 knobs but never M3 knobs. I finally gave up when I found my first 3-9 with M3's. Now I just want TS30 on the side of my scope. Gotta figure that out. As for nonilluminated glass I thought there were some 3.5-10 scopes that were not illuminated in some pictures posted many pages back. On issued rifles. If you were running the fixed 10x it was not illuminated wasn't it? I would like to find a nonilluminated 3.5-10 to go on my early mod 0. I've seen them at 600-700 in the EE but not lately. I just scored another 3-9 illuminated M3 so I'll use that instead. If I find the 3.5-10 I would need to get rid of something to make room. Everything has glass now. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 7:29:17 PM EDT
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Everything I find has M1 knobs
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2017 7:59:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spermgewehr44:
http://s25.postimg.org/f83690yr3/mk12night.jpg http://s25.postimg.org/c2n5wk5in/wpmk12.jpg
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2017 9:41:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Guys.... PLEASE DO NOT write messages in PayPal about gun related items OR that you are paying for goods and services with friends and family option. I appreciate all of your kind words and the extra dollars some of you have contributed. i can't express that enough. I also can't have my PayPal account terminated. Please be careful about that. I'm not calling anyone out publicly but I received a payment with a note that did both. I don't know how on top of that PayPal is. Hopefully it just slides by them. Does anyone have any experience with this situation? Please email me. I'm trying to decide if I should just shut it down for a day or two in order to see what happens. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 11:53:04 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bachn2324:
I've already spend a thousand dollars into this build and it can't even shoot #CloneLife http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t456/henrygb24/IMG_0503_zpsqb0cprkr.jpg
Nice 80% lower, gotta get one and run it through my 5D jig. I picked up a KAC lower for now. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:03:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By revottuneda4:
Everything I find has M1 knobs |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:10:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Are you talking about M1 knobs or nonilluminated 2.5-8? M1 knobs are a no go PERIOD. they never have been accepted. I tried and pled my case for months because I found 3-9 with M1 knobs but never M3 knobs. I finally gave up when I found my first 3-9 with M3's. Now I just want TS30 on the side of my scope. Gotta figure that out. As for nonilluminated glass I thought there were some 3.5-10 scopes that were not illuminated in some pictures posted many pages back. On issued rifles. If you were running the fixed 10x it was not illuminated wasn't it? I would like to find a nonilluminated 3.5-10 to go on my early mod 0. I've seen them at 600-700 in the EE but not lately. I just scored another 3-9 illuminated M3 so I'll use that instead. If I find the 3.5-10 I would need to get rid of something to make room. Everything has glass now. so I just post a pic and smile
How it looks now waiting on the 2.5-8x36 scope to get back from having the M1 knobs switched out for M2s at the leupold custom shop. My old 3.5-10x is on my SR-25, I just realized My MK-12 is over 13 yrs old
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2017 12:28:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Negative, it's very subjective. Those early ones had a unique housing for the elevation/windage turrets. It's not a blanket thing. |
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