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Originally Posted By 8NAK4: I ran a LaRue mount on my Mod 1 for years. I just recently switched to a KAC mount in an effort to get more legit. I'm sticking with the KAC mount, it's not as convenient as the LaRue, but I'm coming to that realization that cloning isn't about having the latest, greatest, convenient, or most ergonomic. My vote for you, go KAC bipod mount. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 8NAK4: Originally Posted By aaron580: Is the kac bipod adapter suppose to be qd? Or is spec just a bolt on? Spec bipod is a brm-s, but I'm wondering if I can get away with a larue mount. I ran a LaRue mount on my Mod 1 for years. I just recently switched to a KAC mount in an effort to get more legit. I'm sticking with the KAC mount, it's not as convenient as the LaRue, but I'm coming to that realization that cloning isn't about having the latest, greatest, convenient, or most ergonomic. My vote for you, go KAC bipod mount. The A.R.M.S. 32 QD mount is also correct, if you must have QD - All info on Page 1. I run the Arms mount, nice like the Larue it's a "self-contained" unit, you remove the kludgy thumbscrew/lever/clip deal from the Harris and mount it direct to the Arms. But, it's pricier than the KAC. |
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What model Ergo Suregrip is period correct for the MK12?
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Apparently the Mk4 he had was trash. Said he had to rezero every time he got back to base and it eventually fell apart.
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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: Saving Utah some work: These are from C. Bartz in the FB group. http://i.imgur.com/9oiQJcP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UVqvhS9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/7g1yAbd.jpg View Quote Nice, thanks bro. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman: "Shoot that mother fucker right there!" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By TinyCrumb: Saving Utah some work: These are from C. Bartz in the FB group. http://i.imgur.com/UVqvhS9.jpg "Hey, take a picture of me!" |
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Originally Posted By dangerdan: 12th Model Mafia http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/20150601_214518_001_zpsa609qiwl.jpg OG black oxide View Quote I want that Corncob. Nay, NEED. I need that Corncob. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah:
I want that Corncob. Nay, NEED. I need that Corncob. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah:
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12th Model Mafia http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/20150601_214518_001_zpsa609qiwl.jpg OG black oxide I want that Corncob. Nay, NEED. I need that Corncob. Everyone has a kink. |
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Originally Posted By RTUtah: I want that Corncob. Nay, NEED. I need that Corncob. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RTUtah: Originally Posted By dangerdan: 12th Model Mafia http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/20150601_214518_001_zpsa609qiwl.jpg OG black oxide I want that Corncob. Nay, NEED. I need that Corncob. Ribbed for your pleasure |
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Credit to TF_Black on IG https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5534/29796337354_61571ba879_b.jpg View Quote I've always liked that photo. I've tried to match that green a couple of times but can never manage. |
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Originally Posted By StampCollector87:
The reason is because some times the tubes get destroyed during knurling. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By StampCollector87:
Originally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Has anyone here had their AEM5 Knurled after they have received it? I know Allen has been contacted before about this but he'll only do it during the manufacturing process. The reason is because some times the tubes get destroyed during knurling. He uses a mandrel to maintain the proper ID during the knurling process. Once the tube is sealed up, he is no longer able to properly knurl the OD. I believe he told me it was a $20 option upon request of a new can order but that's going off memory (and I already have my can). I also asked for a brief history of the knurling on military Ops cans and the best answer I got was that some cans got knurled, others didn't, and it was just done without being requested. There are tools that can do this, or rather, there are tool designs that can knurl a finished product safely, but they rarely look as clean as the knurling you'll want, and are better suited to a straight knurl. If you wanna see what one of these three roller tools looks like, you can track down a USMC armorers tool for knurling the op-rod guide block barrel land on M14s - I've used one of these and while they work for tightening up loose tolerances... the results aren't pretty. The actual USMC tool won't work on the can, but it will give you the basic design of a tool should you want to manufacture something. |
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You guys are amazing, so much info in this thread.
It's good to know that the knurling can be an option on a new can. It was my impression that not all of them had received it in production from talks with some of the older old timers. I wonder if different types of knurling appeared on some of the cans? |
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My 12th Model OPS look just like Dan's in the photo above, but I have seen another identical appearing one with .223 on it.
The lack of POI shift on my 16" is amazing, while on the SPR 18" Krieger I get almost exactly 1/2 MOA straight down to 6 O'Clock.. On the 18" Douglas it seems it was another 1/8 MOA straight down, but I'd have to shoot it to confirm it. Pretty minimal, especially when you zero the weapon with the OPS mounted. All said, I wish I'd bought more but they weren't available (My FFL got the last examples) and I actually bought a SpecWar 2 for my SBRs. |
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Originally Posted By 78Staff:
The A.R.M.S. 32 QD mount is also correct, if you must have QD - All info on Page 1. I run the Arms mount, nice like the Larue it's a "self-contained" unit, you remove the kludgy thumbscrew/lever/clip deal from the Harris and mount it direct to the Arms. But, it's pricier than the KAC. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By 8NAK4:
Originally Posted By aaron580:
Is the kac bipod adapter suppose to be qd? Or is spec just a bolt on? Spec bipod is a brm-s, but I'm wondering if I can get away with a larue mount. I ran a LaRue mount on my Mod 1 for years. I just recently switched to a KAC mount in an effort to get more legit. I'm sticking with the KAC mount, it's not as convenient as the LaRue, but I'm coming to that realization that cloning isn't about having the latest, greatest, convenient, or most ergonomic. My vote for you, go KAC bipod mount. The A.R.M.S. 32 QD mount is also correct, if you must have QD - All info on Page 1. I run the Arms mount, nice like the Larue it's a "self-contained" unit, you remove the kludgy thumbscrew/lever/clip deal from the Harris and mount it direct to the Arms. But, it's pricier than the KAC. ARMS "pricier" than KAC. True but sure doesn't sound right does it? I love all my old ARMS and KAC stuff. Got to put the 22M rings back on the Loopy for the SPR in place of the #35 mount with track mount rings which I tried for the PVS-22 |
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Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Credit to TF_Black on IG https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5534/29796337354_61571ba879_b.jpg View Quote repost because this kicks ass https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5534/29796337354_61571ba879_b.jpg[/ |
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Originally Posted By edwin907:
You guys are amazing, so much info in this thread. It's good to know that the knurling can be an option on a new can. It was my impression that not all of them had received it in production from talks with some of the older old timers. I wonder if different types of knurling appeared on some of the cans? View Quote Only 2 types of knurling: 1. Perfect knurling in the eyes of Ron Allen (usually first couple of tubes he gets out from his blanks), and then there's 2. Knurling that makes Ron Allen cringe. |
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Originally Posted By jsy_1977:
What model Ergo Suregrip is period correct for the MK12? MFR #: 4011-BK? View Quote I'm still kind of new here, so take this with a grain of salt. The Ergo Grips website states this of the 4015: This grip was purchased by the U.S. Military for use on the original SPR and MK 12 rifles in 2001. Anyone else know if this is accurate? |
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Originally Posted By digitalglass:
I'm still kind of new here, so take this with a grain of salt. The Ergo Grips website states this of the 4015: This grip was purchased by the U.S. Military for use on the original SPR and MK 12 rifles in 2001. Anyone else know if this is accurate? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By digitalglass:
Originally Posted By jsy_1977:
What model Ergo Suregrip is period correct for the MK12? MFR #: 4011-BK? I'm still kind of new here, so take this with a grain of salt. The Ergo Grips website states this of the 4015: This grip was purchased by the U.S. Military for use on the original SPR and MK 12 rifles in 2001. Anyone else know if this is accurate? Yep, looks like the right one. The originals had the grip door, were ambi, and black squishy. |
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Why are molted A1 grips that are super molted more desirable than non-molted?
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Hunterex sent me the cleanest A1 grip you will ever see. And I painted it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Why are molted A1 grips that are super molted more desirable than non-molted? And I painted it. No Ragrets! |
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Originally Posted By AGR1279: Does anyone have a short collar they are willing to part with for cheap. I know that a few have replaced them for the longer collars and the short ones are sitting around and I'll have a good home for it. My bride is graduating from nursing school in December and I've acquired everything but the can, brake, collar and a scope. She doesn't care about clone correct she likes shooting mine. Let me know if you've got one you want to part with. Dan View Quote Let me check when I get home. I know I gave one away, but I may have another. |
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Originally Posted By AGR1279:
Does anyone have a short collar they are willing to part with for cheap. I know that a few have replaced them for the longer collars and the short ones are sitting around and I'll have a good home for it. My bride is graduating from nursing school in December and I've acquired everything but the can, brake, collar and a scope. She doesn't care about clone correct she likes shooting mine. Let me know if you've got one you want to part with. Dan http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/agr1279/image.jpg1_zpsud7q4qkz.jpg Edited for pic add to page ownership. View Quote I'd say you could have mine, but I set it aside when I ordered my long collar and now I can't find it. If it pops up and you don't already have one you can have it no charge. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Let me check when I get home. I know I gave one away, but I may have another. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By AGR1279:
Does anyone have a short collar they are willing to part with for cheap. I know that a few have replaced them for the longer collars and the short ones are sitting around and I'll have a good home for it. My bride is graduating from nursing school in December and I've acquired everything but the can, brake, collar and a scope. She doesn't care about clone correct she likes shooting mine. Let me know if you've got one you want to part with. Dan Let me check when I get home. I know I gave one away, but I may have another. If you don't have one Wheelman let me know and I'll send you one, I have an extra. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Hunterex sent me the cleanest A1 grip you will ever see. And I painted it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Why are molted A1 grips that are super molted more desirable than non-molted? And I painted it. YESSSSSS |
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Originally Posted By AGR1279:
Does anyone have a short collar they are willing to part with for cheap. I know that a few have replaced them for the longer collars and the short ones are sitting around and I'll have a good home for it. My bride is graduating from nursing school in December and I've acquired everything but the can, brake, collar and a scope. She doesn't care about clone correct she likes shooting mine. Let me know if you've got one you want to part with. Dan http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/agr1279/image.jpg1_zpsud7q4qkz.jpg Edited for pic add to page ownership. View Quote I have one you can have. Just shoot me a PM with your shipping info. |
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Originally Posted By chenault: If you don't have one Wheelman let me know and I'll send you one, I have an extra. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By chenault: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By AGR1279: Does anyone have a short collar they are willing to part with for cheap. I know that a few have replaced them for the longer collars and the short ones are sitting around and I'll have a good home for it. My bride is graduating from nursing school in December and I've acquired everything but the can, brake, collar and a scope. She doesn't care about clone correct she likes shooting mine. Let me know if you've got one you want to part with. Dan Let me check when I get home. I know I gave one away, but I may have another. If you don't have one Wheelman let me know and I'll send you one, I have an extra. |
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Originally Posted By AL1EN:
Great deal on the Sopmod B5 stock 50$ Choose your color to see the price drop. B5 SOPMOD View Quote Thanks and damn you I just bought 2... |
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Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Thanks and damn you I just bought 2... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By cbfurg:
Originally Posted By AL1EN:
Great deal on the Sopmod B5 stock 50$ Choose your color to see the price drop. B5 SOPMOD Thanks and damn you I just bought 2... Yeah I ordered one so fast It made my wallet spin. |
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I just randomly received my TRC from SWFA that was on back order. Wasn't expecting it so soon. Anyone else get there's?
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Originally Posted By RadOP:
I have one you can have. Just shoot me a PM with your shipping info. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RadOP:
Originally Posted By AGR1279:
Does anyone have a short collar they are willing to part with for cheap. I know that a few have replaced them for the longer collars and the short ones are sitting around and I'll have a good home for it. My bride is graduating from nursing school in December and I've acquired everything but the can, brake, collar and a scope. She doesn't care about clone correct she likes shooting mine. Let me know if you've got one you want to part with. Dan http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/agr1279/image.jpg1_zpsud7q4qkz.jpg Edited for pic add to page ownership. I have one you can have. Just shoot me a PM with your shipping info. Sent. Thank you. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Just checked, and I am collar-dry. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By AGR1279:
Does anyone have a short collar they are willing to part with for cheap. I know that a few have replaced them for the longer collars and the short ones are sitting around and I'll have a good home for it. My bride is graduating from nursing school in December and I've acquired everything but the can, brake, collar and a scope. She doesn't care about clone correct she likes shooting mine. Let me know if you've got one you want to part with. Dan Let me check when I get home. I know I gave one away, but I may have another. If you don't have one Wheelman let me know and I'll send you one, I have an extra. Thank you for checking. Dan |
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Originally Posted By 8NAK4: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg: Why are molted A1 grips that are super molted more desirable than non-molted? And I painted it. YESSSSSS lol, yeah I recall ordering one from a member who had 3 different grades I think - I was like doesn't matter it's getting painted send whatever... :) |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Hunterex sent me the cleanest A1 grip you will ever see. And I painted it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg: Why are molted A1 grips that are super molted more desirable than non-molted? And I painted it. My man. |
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Originally Posted By RadOP: Loving the A2 I installed today. Just need a PEQ-2 now. iPotatoe pic http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m580/rcmartin1/IMG_0243_zpspguaaryr.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RadOP: Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire: Originally Posted By RadOP: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: I guess this is the page where all of us switch to A1 stocks FYI, numrich has the a1 screws. I got the stock and screw coming from them; buffer/spring/extension coming from BCM. A2 feels too long prone, hopefully A1 feels right. I love sopmods, but the eye relief on the mod1 is so goofy that it's stupid hard to get a consistent cheekweld. Im switching over to an A2 stock this afternoon to try out for this same reason. If I have to pick up an A1 stock so be it A2 bitches https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7275/27537195892_edb1ec3704_k.jpg Loving the A2 I installed today. Just need a PEQ-2 now. iPotatoe pic http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m580/rcmartin1/IMG_0243_zpspguaaryr.jpg Damn - now that's a hot paint job. Love the relic'd accents - looks like a piece of history. |
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Originally Posted By RadOP:
I have one you can have. Just shoot me a PM with your shipping info. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RadOP:
Originally Posted By AGR1279:
Does anyone have a short collar they are willing to part with for cheap. I know that a few have replaced them for the longer collars and the short ones are sitting around and I'll have a good home for it. My bride is graduating from nursing school in December and I've acquired everything but the can, brake, collar and a scope. She doesn't care about clone correct she likes shooting mine. Let me know if you've got one you want to part with. Dan http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/agr1279/image.jpg1_zpsud7q4qkz.jpg Edited for pic add to page ownership. I have one you can have. Just shoot me a PM with your shipping info. RadOP is hooking me up. Thanks for the other replies and thank you RadOP. Dan |
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Originally Posted By MNRidesHonda: Painted to keep big brother RTUtah happy :p http://i.imgur.com/fgwHYlz.jpg http://i.imgur.com/X31YJif.jpg View Quote That paint is every bit as early SPR as the actual part. |
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Originally Posted By tamboi: I don't think I've posted a picture of my MK12 Mod 0 clone on the site before Colt Upper, A.R.M.S. #38 SPR-PEQ-2-3 Sleeve Contract barrel from Monty PRI folding FSB, set-screw, ADCO cut the flats for it Running a Youngs National match bolt carrier The OPS INC can came from Kevin at HCS Running a 40L at the rear instead of the standard 40 Just an old Rock River Lower, the lower is actually one of the first the Larson brothers made, serial number 17** Geissele SSA-E for a trigger (KAC is ok but not my thing) BAD lever and an Ergo grip, to be honest I only have two AR's and a work gun, and they all have the same trigger, bad lever and grip. As for accuracy, the rifle really shines at distance, imho. Actually shot one prs style match with the rifle with some MK262 and gave a few people a run for their money, although the furthest target was only 800. Pictured with my NXS 2.5-10x24, mildot, 1/4 moa turrets, nvd settings and no hump ARMS 22's, TS-30A2 is sitting in the box, yes it probably suits the rifle better as she is, but I like the NXS. I apologize for the Atlas, it was convenient to use and as for the paint job, well I let my boys try their hand with Aervoe paint http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae357/ohearchai/IMG_5940_zpss62ookrw.jpg View Quote Good shit. Welcome. |
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Originally Posted By tamboi:
I don't think I've posted a picture of my MK12 Mod 0 clone on the site before Colt Upper, A.R.M.S. #38 SPR-PEQ-2-3 Sleeve Contract barrel from Monty PRI folding FSB, set-screw, ADCO cut the flats for it Running a Youngs National match bolt carrier The OPS INC can came from Kevin at HCS Running a 40L at the rear instead of the standard 40 Just an old Rock River Lower, the lower is actually one of the first the Larson brothers made, serial number 17** Geissele SSA-E for a trigger (KAC is ok but not my thing) BAD lever and an Ergo grip, to be honest I only have two AR's and a work gun, and they all have the same trigger, bad lever and grip. As for accuracy, the rifle really shines at distance, imho. Actually shot one prs style match with the rifle with some MK262 and gave a few people a run for their money, although the furthest target was only 800. Pictured with my NXS 2.5-10x24, mildot, 1/4 moa turrets, nvd settings and no hump ARMS 22's, TS-30A2 is sitting in the box, yes it probably suits the rifle better as she is, but I like the NXS. I apologize for the Atlas, it was convenient to use and as for the paint job, well I let my boys try their hand with Aervoe paint http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae357/ohearchai/IMG_5940_zpss62ookrw.jpg View Quote Absolutely terrific! |
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Originally Posted By AGR1279:
Does anyone have a short collar they are willing to part with for cheap. I know that a few have replaced them for the longer collars and the short ones are sitting around and I'll have a good home for it. My bride is graduating from nursing school in December and I've acquired everything but the can, brake, collar and a scope. She doesn't care about clone correct she likes shooting mine. Let me know if you've got one you want to part with. Dan http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y508/agr1279/image.jpg1_zpsud7q4qkz.jpg Edited for pic add to page ownership. View Quote If you give me a long one, I'll give you a short one. Wait.... |
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So without going all the way through the thread, hopefully someone can answer this.
As I understand it, the most common lower receiver MK12 Mod 1s were built on was the M16A1? If so, assuming it was government marked, are all M16A1s like that also marked "Colt AR15", with M16A1 marked below that? I can't seem to find a US gov marked lower in a pic without "AR15" if it's an M16A1. What's the real deal on lowers? Like given unlimited money, for like a transferable for instance, what's the absolute correct lower? |
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