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Posted: 1/3/2010 11:38:24 PM
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Originally Posted By AngryEwok:
They all look pretty awesome.


Is the AR jamming on you while you're being shot at still awesome?


You mean these things jam?

Shucks, mine is defective-both my personal m4 (gery, LMT) never jammed to date and neither did my m16a2, even during extensive MOUT training with MASSIVE 12 magazine mag dumps.

Gotta call the Armorers for that one, my weapons' defective.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 1:59:06 AM
I don't know if the op is trying to start a small war, but this thread would have the potential!

Although I don't own one, at seems that the Noveskes have a stirling reputation and are probably the top of the heap. I have several Buhsmasters that are running at or near100%, although my 20" Bushy doesn't like certain brands of ammo, but with good ammo it's very reliable. The rifle I've shot the most and have the most confidence in is an 18" POF upper on a DPMS lower. It's my main 3gun rifle and is extremely reliable. The 4 malfunctions I've had (in 3k+ rounds) were caused by bad magazines or ammo.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 2:16:01 AM
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I'll have to go with Olympic Arms on this one, with Blackthorne a close second.


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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:07:54 AM
most quality ars are going to be 100%. However, i wouldnt trust my life to a kac(or any brand) until i ran quite a few down down the pipe first. Break it in, take care of it, run it hard and make it prove itself. Then u know u have a good gun. and keep it wet!
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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:27:07 AM
How's about the one you take care of cleaning it and lubricating it properly.

That said I'm a Colt fan...
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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:28:13 AM
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Blackthorne. I have 30 rounds through mine and it's been 100% reliable.


The only way I would believe that is if you posted almost 5000 times in 2001 and went on a 9 year vacation and just know bought a Blackthorne without reading anything on this site.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 1:04:21 PM
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Originally Posted By Artiz:
Originally Posted By AngryEwok:
They all look pretty awesome.


Is the AR jamming on you while you're being shot at still awesome?


You mean these things jam?

They do if they are not built correctly. By that I mean gas key not staked properly, bolt not inspected and tested, during fast and intensive shooting the castle nut will come loose pretty quick too if it isn't staked (locktite should never get on an AR). But any of the previously talked brand's AR-15 are built properly, so they're not likely to brake or jam anytime soon.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 1:08:46 PM
KAC then Colt. As mentioned, you'll spend the cash, but outta the box you won't get much better.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 1:24:19 PM
Most of the well known brands make good AR15 type rifles. Pick the logo you like best, seriously.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 1:27:11 PM
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Posted: 1/4/2010 1:49:58 PM
Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Originally Posted By Artiz:
Originally Posted By AngryEwok:
They all look pretty awesome.


Is the AR jamming on you while you're being shot at still awesome?


You mean these things jam?

Shucks, mine is defective-both my personal m4 (gery, LMT) never jammed to date and neither did my m16a2, even during extensive MOUT training with MASSIVE 12 magazine mag dumps.

Gotta call the Armorers for that one, my weapons' defective.


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Posted: 1/4/2010 1:57:16 PM
The one that keeps shooting...

Bang, bang, bang.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 2:44:18 PM
I personally like Colt but i have also heard great things about Sabre Defence and i am maybe going to purchase one of those next. If you just want a basic carbine i think you will find the Colt 6520 hard to beat.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 2:45:43 PM

Originally Posted By CTbuilder1:
Kind of a loaded question.

If you buy 10 different brands of AR15s and run 500 rounds through each one of them over the course of one year with no failures, that would mean that each one was 100% reliable. If you stretch that number out to, let's say, 10K rounds a year the story may be a little different.

Generally I would go with Colt, BCM, LMT and throw in premium brands like KAC, Noveske and LaRue. Hard to find ones that would be overall more reliable than that lot. But it all comes down to how much you are shooting and the type of shooting you are doing. A Bushmaster, RRA or DPMS could provide you with years of troublefree use. I wouldn't want any of those, but only because the price difference between them and a BCM or Colt is really not all that much.

I predict at least 5 pages on this one........

And this is the correct answer. Personally I go with Colt and BCM. One day I'd like to be able to afford a LaRue and maybe a KAC.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 3:09:51 PM
I see BCM/Bravo mentioned a couple times here... but I was under the impression they don't sell complete rifles (i.e. "out of the box" like the poster wanted).

If I'm wrong PLEASE let me know, as I too am looking to eventually buy and am leaning towards BCM, based on the rave reviews posted here about their quality, reliability, price, and customer service.

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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:15:45 PM
Originally Posted By mapcase:
I see BCM/Bravo mentioned a couple times here... but I was under the impression they don't sell complete rifles (i.e. "out of the box" like the poster wanted).

If I'm wrong PLEASE let me know, as I too am looking to eventually buy and am leaning towards BCM, based on the rave reviews posted here about their quality, reliability, price, and customer service.

Thanks,
Chris


There is an authorized dealer that sells complete BCM rifles & he has the middy in stock now. However, the staff here does not allow linking to his site. The owner of that site is a real turd & he was kicked off this site a while back.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:25:19 PM
Colt, LMT, BCM, Sabre Defence, Noveske
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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:28:29 PM
Originally Posted By mapcase:
I see BCM/Bravo mentioned a couple times here... but I was under the impression they don't sell complete rifles (i.e. "out of the box" like the poster wanted).

If I'm wrong PLEASE let me know, as I too am looking to eventually buy and am leaning towards BCM, based on the rave reviews posted here about their quality, reliability, price, and customer service.

Thanks,
Chris


Here's what I would do-

Go to PK firearms order a complete Sabre lower. Then go to Bravo and order a complete m4 upper (16" or 14.5" with a perma FH) and a carry handle.

Be happy, shoot it, and mod away to your heart's desire.

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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:29:02 PM
Originally Posted By warpig8654:
Originally Posted By mapcase:
I see BCM/Bravo mentioned a couple times here... but I was under the impression they don't sell complete rifles (i.e. "out of the box" like the poster wanted).

If I'm wrong PLEASE let me know, as I too am looking to eventually buy and am leaning towards BCM, based on the rave reviews posted here about their quality, reliability, price, and customer service.

Thanks,
Chris


There is an authorized dealer that sells complete BCM rifles & he has the middy in stock now. However, the staff here does not allow linking to his site. The owner of that site is a real turd & he was kicked off this site a while back.


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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:30:19 PM
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I would pick the Colt 6920. But any of the top tier ARs should be completely reliable out of the box.
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Posted: 1/4/2010 4:35:33 PM
For reliability I would say Noveske N4 Light. Yey for Mod-0 chamber!
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Posted: 1/4/2010 8:03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Colt, BCM, LMT, Noveske, DD...

Can't go wrong there.



I agree
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Posted: 1/4/2010 8:06:22 PM
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Posted: 1/4/2010 8:52:17 PM
My military experience says Colt but I ain't got one. I do however have a Bushmaster and a RR kit on a CMMG lower and both have worked flawlessly. Still, one of these days I gotta get me a 20 inch colt for old times sake.


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Posted: 1/5/2010 8:48:59 AM


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