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mmlewis
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Posted: 9/23/2008 11:22:26 AM
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I thought I'd posted this here yesterday but cannot seem to find my post...

I am considering a semiautomatic rifle for fun at the range, and am somewhat familiar with the M-16 since I use it in the military.

I'm considering the LAR-8 (Rock River Arms) or AR-10. Currently in Iraq, so can't look at either rifle up close at this time since I'm not near a rifle store, but was wondering about the basics. Do either of these rifles have the selectable three-burst/single shot mode?

Do both rifles allow for installation of a night-vision scope? I'm considering the 16" barrel versions of each (A4??)

Finally, what are the differences between the rifles made during the ban period, versus those available now?

New to purchasing firearms... just want to make the correct decision.


Thank you,
Mike
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Posted: 9/23/2008 11:48:00 AM
you may want to check if you posted in the AR-10 forum.

Neither are select fire.


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Posted: 9/23/2008 12:06:22 PM
Thank you for your reply. I'll check the AR10 section.

What firing modes are available with these, then? Surely they're not just single shot at a time...?


Mike
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Posted: 9/23/2008 12:08:51 PM
semi-automatic. one squeeze of the trigger equals one round fired. as the next round is chambered, the trigger automatically resets itself.

i wouldn't want a .308 in fully-auto or burst anyhow. the ammo is too expensive.
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Posted: 9/23/2008 12:19:24 PM
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Originally Posted By mmlewis:
Thank you for your reply. I'll check the AR10 section.

What firing modes are available with these, then? Surely they're not just single shot at a time...?


Mike



Semi auto is all we civilians get. as previously stated, .308 gets expensive real fast. Also, you probably couldn`t control either on full auto. The Army couldn`t make a full auto M-14 work well, and AR type rifles are lighter.

That being said the ArmaLite AR-10 has been around a lot longer and has a good track record , and good customer service from ArmaLite. I own a couple and I`m happy with them. It is howerever one of the more expensive .308 variants out here. If money is an issue, you might want to look at the DPMS .308. It`s cheaper and it mags interchange with the SR-25. HTH and thanks for your service.
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mmlewis
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Posted: 9/23/2008 12:27:46 PM
OK... Well, that takes some of the fun out of owning one...
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Posted: 9/30/2008 12:34:16 PM

Originally Posted By arbob:

Originally Posted By mmlewis:
Thank you for your reply. I'll check the AR10 section.

What firing modes are available with these, then? Surely they're not just single shot at a time...?


Mike



Semi auto is all we civilians get. as previously stated, .308 gets expensive real fast. Also, you probably couldn`t control either on full auto. The Army couldn`t make a full auto M-14 work well, and AR type rifles are lighter.

That being said the ArmaLite AR-10 has been around a lot longer and has a good track record , and good customer service from ArmaLite. I own a couple and I`m happy with them. It is howerever one of the more expensive .308 variants out here. If money is an issue, you might want to look at the DPMS .308. It`s cheaper and it mags interchange with the SR-25. HTH and thanks for your service.


How is the trigger feel on the AR-15 and AR-10? How many times can one fire the weapon per second?
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Posted: 9/30/2008 12:47:17 PM
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Originally Posted By mmlewis:

Originally Posted By arbob:

Originally Posted By mmlewis:
Thank you for your reply. I'll check the AR10 section.

What firing modes are available with these, then? Surely they're not just single shot at a time...?


Mike



Semi auto is all we civilians get. as previously stated, .308 gets expensive real fast. Also, you probably couldn`t control either on full auto. The Army couldn`t make a full auto M-14 work well, and AR type rifles are lighter.

That being said the ArmaLite AR-10 has been around a lot longer and has a good track record , and good customer service from ArmaLite. I own a couple and I`m happy with them. It is howerever one of the more expensive .308 variants out here. If money is an issue, you might want to look at the DPMS .308. It`s cheaper and it mags interchange with the SR-25. HTH and thanks for your service.


How is the trigger feel on the AR-15 and AR-10? How many times can one fire the weapon per second?


as quick as you can pull the trigger, but you probly cant keep it on target that fast. .308 is a lot harsher than 5.56.

the LAR takes cheaper more common magazines (FAL magazines). it is slightly longer (an inch or so) due to this. It is a heavily redesigned version of bushmaster's .308. the bushmaster version was initially developed by RRA and sold to bushmaster. however bushmaster brought it to market before it was finished and broken bolts was the result. RRA has spent years redesigning it and perfecting all of the problems.

as far as everything else goes, both receivers are forged 7075 aluminum, and midlength gas systems for both RRA and AR-10. DPMS uses weaker aluminum that is milled into shape, causing a slightly weaker recevier. but you would never know. DPMS alsu uses a harsher carbine length gas system. DPMS is however about 200$ cheaper.

I plan on buying an LAR-8 for cheaper mags. ammo is $.50/rd so I wanna save where I can.
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Posted: 9/30/2008 3:54:09 PM
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Originally Posted By mmlewis:
OK... Well, that takes some of the fun out of owning one...


How do you think you were going to go about getting a Full Auto AR-10...even if they existed
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Posted: 10/1/2008 1:59:44 PM

Originally Posted By STJ:

Originally Posted By mmlewis:
OK... Well, that takes some of the fun out of owning one...


How do you think you were going to go about getting a Full Auto AR-10...even if they existed


I'm a newbie, STJ, completely unfamiliar with existing gun laws and completely new to this class of firearms on the civilian side. I know about the M-16 because I work with it relatively frequently... evidently I've been spoiled to the M-16 and won't ever have anything like it on the "civilian side."

Appreciate replies to this thread that discuss some of the history behind the RRA LAR-8 and the AR-10... I'm learning.


Mike
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Posted: 10/1/2008 4:21:00 PM
you can get a full auto m4 - but the auto sear is gonna cost about 6k-8k. Plus the $200 tax stamp dont you love gun control!
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Posted: 10/1/2008 4:39:03 PM
Here's some history. Email me at rookert@armalite.com if you have further questions.

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www.armalite.com/images/Library/AL%20HISTORY%20COPY%202.pdf
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