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Posted: 3/6/2024 7:30:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Yes! I can’t push/pull the pins by hand. I have to use a tool to push them out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Originally Posted By thatARMSguy: That's pretty neat, reminds me of the Colt SCW buffer system. Is taking it down annoying with the spring constantly pushing on the upper? Yes! I can’t push/pull the pins by hand. I have to use a tool to push them out. What's the benefit to that setup? |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 7:57:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: What's the benefit to that setup? Are you talking about having to use a tool to push the pins or the gun setup itself? When I say use a tool to push the pins, I don’t mean a specific tool, I just need something hard/rigid to push the pins out from the off side. They’re very tight. That buffer setup is shorten than a normal system so it’s just an overall shorter setup, especially with a 7.5” barrel. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 8:50:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Are you talking about having to use a tool to push the pins or the gun setup itself? When I say use a tool to push the pins, I don’t mean a specific tool, I just need something hard/rigid to push the pins out from the off side. They’re very tight. That buffer setup is shorten than a normal system so it’s just an overall shorter setup, especially with a 7.5” barrel. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: What's the benefit to that setup? Are you talking about having to use a tool to push the pins or the gun setup itself? When I say use a tool to push the pins, I don’t mean a specific tool, I just need something hard/rigid to push the pins out from the off side. They’re very tight. That buffer setup is shorten than a normal system so it’s just an overall shorter setup, especially with a 7.5” barrel. I was talking about the buffer nesting into the BCG. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 9:45:43 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: I was talking about the buffer nesting into the BCG. Just makes it shorter, more compact. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 9:54:59 PM EDT
[#5]
Saw this in the E.E.
What is it? Early Gen 3? |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 10:01:06 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Just makes it shorter, more compact. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I was talking about the buffer nesting into the BCG. Just makes it shorter, more compact. Interesting concept. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 10:04:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: officerX]
[#7]
Quote HistoryThere was no gen 2 upper. It’s probably an early gen 3 that’s been painted. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 10:07:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/6/2024 10:15:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: There was no gen 2 upper. And with that grey color, I’m going to say it’s been painted. For all we know it could be an SMOS. I thought SMOS as well, but if you look closely at the pictures the Noveske logo is on the oposite side of the Gen 3. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 10:29:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kavants]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335460/IMG_2053-3151579.jpg What is that one considered? Early Gen 3? Are the logos printed? Lasered? |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 11:25:00 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kavants: I thought SMOS as well, but if you look closely at the pictures the Noveske logo is on the oposite side of the Gen 3. Yes, I had forgotten about that. I went back and changed my comment. |
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Posted: 3/6/2024 11:27:10 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kavants: What is that one considered? Early Gen 3? Are the logos printed? Lasered? Yes, early gen 3, similar to that “gen 2”. It doesn’t have the NOVESKE cut into the other side. I guess it’s lasered, not 100% sure, but it’s not just painted on, the letters have some depth to them. |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 8:48:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AWHAILYEAH]
[#13]
I wished I'd of held onto a few more of my pre Sandy Hook Noveske shit..............................
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Posted: 3/10/2024 1:11:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Yes, early gen 3, similar to that “gen 2”. It doesn’t have the NOVESKE cut into the other side. I guess it’s lasered, not 100% sure, but it’s not just painted on, the letters have some depth to them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Originally Posted By kavants: What is that one considered? Early Gen 3? Are the logos printed? Lasered? Yes, early gen 3, similar to that “gen 2”. It doesn’t have the NOVESKE cut into the other side. I guess it’s lasered, not 100% sure, but it’s not just painted on, the letters have some depth to them. To me that looks like an SMOS billet upper regardless of how it’s labeled. |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 1:37:45 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jnat: To me that looks like an SMOS billet upper regardless of how it’s labeled. That’s because SMOS was the OEM for Noveske uppers at the time. |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 10:19:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jnat]
[#16]
10-4. For builds, even on a noveske lower I’ve always preferred the look of the unbranded upper.
Also were not the MUR uppers considered gen2 ? |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:06:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jnat: 10-4. For builds, even on a noveske lower I’ve always preferred the look of the unbranded upper. Also were not the MUR uppers considered gen2 ? The MUR were used a lot with gen 2 lowers but I don’t know that they were really considered a Noveske gen 2 upper. I’ve not seen that anywhere or heard anyone refer to it as such. Pic thread: 
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Posted: 3/12/2024 4:04:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBills-AR]
[#18]
 " />A few of my earlier Gen 3 uppers, and yes SMOS made them. They are laser marked. Not really such a thing as a Gen 2 upper. The Vltor Noveske MUR was made a little different than the regular MUR to go with the SWS hanguards per Johns request I believe. |
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Posted: 3/13/2024 12:18:34 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBills-AR: https://i.imgur.com/54FPzJB.jpeg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/54FPzJB.jpeg A few of my earlier Gen 3 uppers, and yes SMOS made them. They are laser marked. Not really such a thing as a Gen 2 upper. The Vltor Noveske MUR was made a little different than the regular MUR to go with the SWS hanguards per Johns request I believe. Yup, has the anti rotation pin hole and a little more material directly behind barrel extension threads |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 8:49:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: jsxtreme]
[#20]
Currently has an early 18" 556 barrel in it, but I have a 6 arc incoming.
 
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Posted: 3/18/2024 3:10:24 PM EDT
[#21]
It's a shame that Noveske doesn't make 17" rails anymore. They look great on DMR style builds.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 3/18/2024 4:07:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jsxtreme]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By manticore: It's a shame that Noveske doesn't make 17" rails anymore. They look great on DMR style builds. I know. I would love to have one in M-lock. I actually prefer keymod, but its definitely on its last leg. |
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Posted: 3/18/2024 10:34:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2024 9:24:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335460/IMG_2166-3163240.jpg Yessir! |
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Posted: 3/19/2024 8:07:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kavants: Yessir! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kavants: Originally Posted By officerX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335460/IMG_2166-3163240.jpg Yessir! ^^^^^ Reminds me of a 300BLK upper I built years ago and should've kept. 
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Posted: 3/19/2024 8:12:32 PM EDT
[#26]
Gen 2 Noveske lowers were the best they have ever made
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Posted: 3/21/2024 9:06:18 PM EDT
[#27]
This page brings back good memories. I get nostalgic whenever I look back at the first 40 pages of this thread.
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Posted: 3/22/2024 3:11:07 PM EDT
[#28]
Little something I have been working on. Rebuilt this early Gen 3 upper that was factory built with a 9" SWS quad and Afghan FSB barrel, from 2014.
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Posted: 3/23/2024 9:36:20 PM EDT
[#29]
I realized I didn't have a single non spray painted FDE rifle in the house so I bought a Gen 3 Match Set in FDE then sent the NSR & Recon Barrel to ankratz to get coated................Have many an option for optic but no clue what I'm really gonna do with it...................................
  Run of the mill Noveske Recon setup probably end up in the corner somewhere lol................................... |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:39:35 PM EDT
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Where's the best places to keep on eye for stock on good deal for a gen 4 lower? When I built my first AR the gen 2 Novekse was the hot thing, they left an impression and I've always wanted one. As a lefty the gen 4 is really appealing. I'm leaning towards a gen 3 upper and rail.
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Posted: 3/25/2024 1:44:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: officerX]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihv800: Where's the best places to keep on eye for stock on good deal for a gen 4 lower? When I built my first AR the gen 2 Novekse was the hot thing, they left an impression and I've always wanted one. As a lefty the gen 4 is really appealing. I'm leaning towards a gen 3 upper and rail. Gen 4 lower in stock at Primary Arms https://www.primaryarms.com/noveske-rifleworks-n4-gen-4-stripped-ambidextrous-ar-15-lower-receiver Capitol Armory https://www.capitolarmory.com/noveske-gen-4-stripped-lower-receiver-ar15.html esilencers .com https://esilencers.com/product/noveske-gen-4-lower-receiver/ |
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Posted: 3/25/2024 2:30:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: Gen 4 lower in stock at Primary Arms https://www.primaryarms.com/noveske-rifleworks-n4-gen-4-stripped-ambidextrous-ar-15-lower-receiver Capitol Armory https://www.capitolarmory.com/noveske-gen-4-stripped-lower-receiver-ar15.html esilencers .com https://esilencers.com/product/noveske-gen-4-lower-receiver/ Didn't realize Primary carried Noveske, wish I could have used their recent 12% coupon. Oh well, thanks for the heads up sir! |
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Posted: 3/26/2024 2:10:56 PM EDT
[#33]
The Gen 4 lower isn't going to be a problem, but the Gen 3 uppers and rails are basically vaporware right now.
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Posted: 3/26/2024 2:39:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: officerX]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By manticore: The Gen 4 lower isn't going to be a problem, but the Gen 3 uppers and rails are basically vaporware right now. From retailers, yes. I see them all the time on TacSwap and the Noveske Facebook groups. |
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Posted: 3/27/2024 8:10:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Headbarcode]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ihv800: Where's the best places to keep on eye for stock on good deal for a gen 4 lower? When I built my first AR the gen 2 Novekse was the hot thing, they left an impression and I've always wanted one. As a lefty the gen 4 is really appealing. I'm leaning towards a gen 3 upper and rail. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 11:52:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/4/2024 8:59:53 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335460/IMG_2384-3177571.jpg Damn, I want that Zippo  Went searching several months back but no dice  Rifle looks good, too 
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Posted: 4/4/2024 9:30:20 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoveskeFan: Damn, I want that Zippo Went searching several months back but no dice Rifle looks good, too Thanks! I posted WTB ads everywhere I could. Got a reply from a Facebook group from a guy about 1.5 hours away from me. We worked out a trade deal and we both walked away happy. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 11:32:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335460/IMG_2384-3177571.jpg Dang. Y'all were right about the Vltor MUR upper being different from the Noveske Vltor MUR. Don't know if I want to spend the $280 for the correct upper and pay to have it coated AND tear down my Johnny clone just to build it back more "correct."  But now I can't unsee it
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Posted: 4/5/2024 3:55:26 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bringo: Dang. Y'all were right about the Vltor MUR upper being different from the Noveske Vltor MUR. Don't know if I want to spend the $280 for the correct upper and pay to have it coated AND tear down my Johnny clone just to build it back more "correct." But now I can't unsee it The Noveske MUR is more robust, and has more rigidity. It's supposed to lead to increased accuracy, but I've seen zero data to back that up. Hey, if you swap it, you can always use that upper to build another rifle! :) 
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Posted: 4/5/2024 11:20:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/6/2024 7:48:56 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CSGroup]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AWHAILYEAH: I realized I didn't have a single non spray painted FDE rifle in the house so I bought a Gen 3 Match Set in FDE then sent the NSR & Recon Barrel to ankratz to get coated................Have many an option for optic but no clue what I'm really gonna do with it................................... https://i.imgur.com/RRZedCk.jpg https://i.imgur.com/93fm0YO.jpg?1 Run of the mill Noveske Recon setup probably end up in the corner somewhere lol................................... damn....now im going to have to stay at my desk for no less than 15 minutes to let this stiffy go down.....thanks a lot |
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Posted: 4/6/2024 8:37:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bringo: Dang. Y'all were right about the Vltor MUR upper being different from the Noveske Vltor MUR. Don't know if I want to spend the $280 for the correct upper and pay to have it coated AND tear down my Johnny clone just to build it back more "correct." https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53633741528_eaf37cf0fa_h.jpg But now I can't unsee it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bringo: Originally Posted By officerX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335460/IMG_2384-3177571.jpg Dang. Y'all were right about the Vltor MUR upper being different from the Noveske Vltor MUR. Don't know if I want to spend the $280 for the correct upper and pay to have it coated AND tear down my Johnny clone just to build it back more "correct." https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53633741528_eaf37cf0fa_h.jpg But now I can't unsee it leave it. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 12:38:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/7/2024 3:24:36 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By officerX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335460/IMG_2400-3179483.jpg  a gen 1 N6 is still an awesome rifle the newer micro switchblock's work out pretty good with the old SWS rails with a little modification if your going to attach a muffler to the end of it    |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 3:27:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WUPHF: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/294984/IMG_8573_jpeg-3181100.JPG |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 4:48:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1iviper: i never get tired of seeing pics of your rifles as they're all just flat out awesome , i wish there was a 2 thumbs up emoji to put here Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1iviper: Originally Posted By WUPHF: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/294984/IMG_8573_jpeg-3181100.JPG  Thanks man.
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Posted: 4/7/2024 5:45:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1iviper: nice a gen 1 N6 is still an awesome rifle the newer micro switchblock's work out pretty good with the old SWS rails with a little modification if your going to attach a muffler to the end of it https://i.postimg.cc/BbNVF7r3/micro_switchblock.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/x89ZcVFg/micro_switchblock_2.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/wjH2H0fh/Inked20220410_145645_LI.jpg I’ll check into that. It’s got an AGB on it right now but obviously a Switchblock would be the better option for switching between suppressed and unsuppressed. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 9:28:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/8/2024 10:58:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Bringo]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4ger: leave it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4ger: Originally Posted By Bringo: Originally Posted By officerX: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335460/IMG_2384-3177571.jpg Dang. Y'all were right about the Vltor MUR upper being different from the Noveske Vltor MUR. Don't know if I want to spend the $280 for the correct upper and pay to have it coated AND tear down my Johnny clone just to build it back more "correct." https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53633741528_eaf37cf0fa_h.jpg But now I can't unsee it leave it. Shoot, if you say to leave it, I'll leave it! Making some changes to my other Noveske:  The FCD safeties are rad. ETA:  
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