User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 2/12/2014 11:06:36 PM EDT
There have been a lot of rumors about this product, but only a couple of people knew the details, so without further ado we would like to give you a preliminary look at the MA-8100 Renegade Forearm for the Yugo Krink!
Here are the facts: 1. The slots on the sides work with our ARClight rail segments, and also aftermarket polymer rail segments and accessories. 2. Polymer will be a high temperature thermoset, and it is so heat resistant that the polymer would only smolder when wood is burning. 3. The forend works just fine with the standard gas tube that comes with your gun. 4. It will fit both M92 and M85 Yugo PAP's 5. There will be an associated optics mount too, should have pics of that in a week or so. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2014 3:04:10 PM EDT
[#1]
That looks pretty slick.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/18/2014 6:04:19 PM EDT
[#2]
I'll be keeping an eye on this. I just ordered your stock & hinge kit for my M92 (my first "AK"). You guys should get some sort of barrel extension/fake suppressor going, and offer us all the whole package. Just a thought. Keep up the good work.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/19/2014 7:47:31 AM EDT
[#3]
We have had several requests for a barrel extension that can be pinned to give a 16" overall length, and are looking into it.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/19/2014 5:52:53 PM EDT
[#4]
If y'all do, any idea if it'd be fake-suppressor-style, or would it be something lighter, like, for example, an extended CAR flash hider?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/20/2014 1:19:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If y'all do, any idea if it'd be fake-suppressor-style, or would it be something lighter, like, for example, an extended CAR flash hider? We haven't settle on a design yet. There are a lot of fake suppressors already out there, one thought is to make a hybrid NightBrake/fake supressor. I will post some renderings once we have something sketched up to get some feedback. In point of fact, any feedback on what you would like to see would be appreciated. This is quite honestly a tough product to make look good and so customer feedback is essential to get it where it needs to be. We want everyone to get what they want out of this potential product, so give us a feel for what direction to head. Sven Manticore Arms |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/20/2014 5:45:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Recognizing that I'm just an n of 1, my preference would be for something that didn't look like a suppressor, and that was relatively light, with an overall appearance like the Rifle Dynamics muzzle. I keep looking at CNC Warrior's 26mm thread adapter plus their extended length Draco muzzle extension, and thinking how ugly that combo will be.
Of course, as you allude to, it may be that a muzzle extension like that for the PAP is just gonna be ugly. [edited to add - this would become a moot point for me if Washington starts allowing SBRs... didn't think it'd happen, but it's passed our Senate and made it into the current House session.] |
|
|
|
Posted: 2/25/2014 10:16:59 AM EDT
[#7]
Any update on this project?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/25/2014 6:12:06 PM EDT
[#8]
Mold is getting started late this week.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/25/2014 7:11:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Do you think your lower will work when using an ultimak? Or would I have to cut it.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 2/26/2014 11:13:22 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Do you think your lower will work when using an ultimak? Or would I have to cut it. It will work with the standard gas tub, so it should in theory work with an Ultimak. We also will have our own upper optics mounting system to go with the Renegade polymer forend. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/2/2014 8:47:20 AM EDT
[#11]
I'm eagerly awaiting the optics mount. Any hints on how it attaches?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/2/2014 10:55:02 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm eagerly awaiting the optics mount. Any hints on how it attaches? I should have more info this coming week, hang tight... |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/2/2014 6:06:10 PM EDT
[#13]
Sweet. Standing by with money burning a hole in my pocket. David
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/10/2014 10:31:33 PM EDT
[#14]
Can I get a pic from above the rifle looking down? Thanks!
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/11/2014 7:27:16 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Can I get a pic from above the rifle looking down? Thanks! You can as soon as I have the scope mount and gas tube finished! Which should be in the next few hours. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/12/2014 12:38:13 AM EDT
[#16]
First couple of pics of the Burris Fastfire mount on our own gas tube. Yes, you can see the irons through the Fastfire, they are in the lower 1/3 to 1/4 of the Fastfire window- out of the way for using the red dot, still visible if your red dot craps out all of a sudden.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/12/2014 4:28:42 AM EDT
[#17]
Cool, so how close to production and any hint of price and options?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/12/2014 9:54:33 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Cool, so how close to production and any hint of price and options? -Ditto- Any projected lead times and pricepoints? |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/12/2014 11:14:17 AM EDT
[#19]
I should know the answers to both questions in about 10-15 days, we have to crunch some numbers on both parts and see where we fall, and also see what our schedule looks like.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/12/2014 3:21:33 PM EDT
[#20]
A couple more pics, one from the top and one showing that you can indeed see the irons through the Fastfire (did my best to line them up, was tricky to do that and get it in focus for the picture! Front sight post is just slightly to the left in the rear notch...)
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/16/2014 8:22:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
A couple more pics, one from the top and one showing that you can indeed see the irons through the Fastfire (did my best to line them up, was tricky to do that and get it in focus for the picture! Front sight post is just slightly to the left in the rear notch...) <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/opticsmount7WEB.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/opticsmount7WEB.jpg</a> <a href="http://s131.photobucket.com/user/Dawg180/media/opticsmount8WEB.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/Dawg180/opticsmount8WEB.jpg</a> 
Waiting patiently…. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/21/2014 11:48:18 AM EDT
[#22]
In for microdot direct-attach version forend and a perm-attach lightweight barrel extension. Looking good.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/21/2014 2:55:30 PM EDT
[#23]
my m92 is on the way and I ready for this handgrip :) lets get a move on lol.
I also like the flash hider shown above very nice, |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/21/2014 4:08:41 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
my m92 is on the way and I ready for this handgrip :) lets get a move on lol. I also like the flash hider shown above very nice, That is our Yugo Krink NightBrake, our most popular muzzle device! |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/21/2014 4:09:15 PM EDT
[#25]
(Originally posted in the AK subforum thread, reposted here for those who have not seen it)
New optics mount design, uses the existing gas tube. Just remove the wood upper handguard, bolt this bad boy on and you are ready to rock with your optic and can still see the iron sights through the optic! Works on the both M92 and M85, and yes, there will be more options than just the Burris Fastfire, working on the Aimpoint Micro model this morning. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/21/2014 7:32:29 PM EDT
[#26]
Just out of curiosity, did the first upper piece you had pictured have a gas tube under it? I mean it looks like it's there, connected to the gas block. If so would it be offered as an option? I really prefer the cleaner look of the first piece, if it's not a huge increase in pricing.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/22/2014 11:10:00 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just out of curiosity, did the first upper piece you had pictured have a gas tube under it? I mean it looks like it's there, connected to the gas block. If so would it be offered as an option? I really prefer the cleaner look of the first piece, if it's not a huge increase in pricing. The first upper piece had our own gas tube design under it. I know it looked a little bit cleaner, but it would likely double or triple the price of the scope mounting top plate assembly- there was a lot of machining involved to make it happen, hence why I revised it to use the existing gas tube. Look at the price of just the Ultimak gas tube, then add a top plate to it, that kind of pricing,  and I didn't think that is what people were looking for.
Going with the existing gas tube has several advantages, not the least of which is cost. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/22/2014 1:04:59 PM EDT
[#28]
Ok, that's what I figured, stock gas tube it is.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/22/2014 1:28:31 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ok, that's what I figured, stock gas tube it is. Thanks for understanding!
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/23/2014 11:35:07 AM EDT
[#30]
Way cool!! I want one of these for my Yugo 92. Any hint of a price yet? Sparksnsuch |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/23/2014 11:37:49 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Way cool!! I want one of these for my Yugo 92. Any hint of a price yet? Sparksnsuch We should have pricing worked out in the next week or so. Still working on some numbers for the top scope mount portion. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/25/2014 12:42:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Do most of the mini RDS type sights use common screw and stud spacing?
I have an older Jpoint that I would love to run on one of these. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/25/2014 9:45:30 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Do most of the mini RDS type sights use common screw and stud spacing? I have an older Jpoint that I would love to run on one of these. No, unfortunately every mini red dot has a different mounting system. The only two that have the mounting in common is the Aimpoint Micro and the Primary Arms Micro with removable base. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/26/2014 7:31:03 AM EDT
[#34]
That's got to make it a bitch for manufacturers. Are you planning on just going with the fastfire template or are you going to offer a range of mounting layouts(probably not cost effective)?
I like the handguard either way and may just end up buying a fastfire if I have to. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/26/2014 10:49:39 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's got to make it a bitch for manufacturers. Are you planning on just going with the fastfire template or are you going to offer a range of mounting layouts(probably not cost effective)? I like the handguard either way and may just end up buying a fastfire if I have to. Yes, it is a real bitch! 
We definitely will be doing the Burris Fastfire, and the AImpoint Micro/Priamry Arms micro top plates and will be starting with those as they are the most popular micro red dots out there. We can do the Leupold Deltapoint and Trjiicon RMR (or any other model of red dot) if there is enough demand. Being that J-points are no longer in production (as far as I know) I don't think we would be doing a top cover for them. Sven Manticore Arms |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/26/2014 12:39:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yes, it is a real bitch!
We definitely will be doing the Burris Fastfire, and the AImpoint Micro/Priamry Arms micro top plates and will be starting with those as they are the most popular micro red dots out there. We can do the Leupold Deltapoint and Trjiicon RMR (or any other model of red dot) if there is enough demand. Being that J-points are no longer in production (as far as I know) I don't think we would be doing a top cover for them. Sven Manticore Arms Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
That's got to make it a bitch for manufacturers. Are you planning on just going with the fastfire template or are you going to offer a range of mounting layouts(probably not cost effective)? I like the handguard either way and may just end up buying a fastfire if I have to. Yes, it is a real bitch!
We definitely will be doing the Burris Fastfire, and the AImpoint Micro/Priamry Arms micro top plates and will be starting with those as they are the most popular micro red dots out there. We can do the Leupold Deltapoint and Trjiicon RMR (or any other model of red dot) if there is enough demand. Being that J-points are no longer in production (as far as I know) I don't think we would be doing a top cover for them. Sven Manticore Arms 10-4......fwiw you are going to receive full credit when I tell the wife why I need a new optic 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/27/2014 7:24:03 AM EDT
[#37]
Before I make another mistake and get something for the wrong gun :) when available will this fit the CIA HG3089N PAP Handgun 30+1 7.62X39mm 10"
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/27/2014 1:25:37 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Before I make another mistake and get something for the wrong gun :) when available will this fit the CIA HG3089N PAP Handgun 30+1 7.62X39mm 10" Yes, that is the Yugo PAP, i.e. Yugo Krinkov |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/27/2014 4:58:07 PM EDT
[#39]
I'm in for one.
Off topic question. How does the muzzle flash on the nightbrake compare to the stock m92? |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/28/2014 9:00:03 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm in for one. Off topic question. How does the muzzle flash on the nightbrake compare to the stock m92? I think what comes with it is a thread hider; there's no muzzle flash functionality. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/28/2014 6:19:28 PM EDT
[#41]
I'm going to need 2 of these hand guards. They look great.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 3/28/2014 9:01:46 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I think what comes with it is a thread hider; there's no muzzle flash functionality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I'm in for one. Off topic question. How does the muzzle flash on the nightbrake compare to the stock m92? I think what comes with it is a thread hider; there's no muzzle flash functionality. Numinor is correct, what a stock M92 has is just a thread protector that's tack welded to the FSB. And I'm really looking forward to seeing what the price point is on this forearm. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/29/2014 1:06:27 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Numinor is correct, what a stock M92 has is just a thread protector that's tack welded to the FSB. And I'm really looking forward to seeing what the price point is on this forearm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm in for one. Off topic question. How does the muzzle flash on the nightbrake compare to the stock m92? I think what comes with it is a thread hider; there's no muzzle flash functionality. Numinor is correct, what a stock M92 has is just a thread protector that's tack welded to the FSB. And I'm really looking forward to seeing what the price point is on this forearm. I know. That wasn't my question. With just the thread protector there is a giant fireball(or flash if you will). I'm curious how the fireball(or flash) of the nightbrake compares to the stock m92 with just the thread protector. Sorry if my question was confusing. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/29/2014 6:30:20 AM EDT
[#44]
You tube link to what the nightbrake looks like and there are tons more :) just search m92 nightbrake
Muzzle devices on the M92 including The Nightbrake on youtube |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/29/2014 7:31:24 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I know. That wasn't my question. With just the thread protector there is a giant fireball(or flash if you will). I'm curious how the fireball(or flash) of the nightbrake compares to the stock m92 with just the thread protector. Sorry if my question was confusing. Sorry jh. The nightbrake redirects the giant fireball out of your line of site in a controlled fashion. It makes a huge difference. In fact I would say the nightbrake or something similar is a necessity. |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/29/2014 11:38:01 AM EDT
[#46]
The NightBrake was design as a brake, specifically so it can be sold to all states, even those that do not allow flash hiders, so we do not rate it for flash.
That being said, any muzzle device is going to be better than a bare muzzle! There are a couple of good videos on Youtube showing comparisons of a bare muzzle Yugo PAP, a NightBrake, etc, etc, here is one that was done recently, it is probably the most thorough one we have seen done: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q9eUnBbpoU&feature=youtu.be |
|
|
|
Posted: 3/29/2014 1:34:46 PM EDT
[#47]
Perfect! Thanks guys.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/1/2014 5:35:25 PM EDT
[#48]
I have always had a side mount on my AK. Just recently, I bought a Pap AK pistol. Would this particular set up have any issues with holding zero? I know that I was always told to stay away from dust cover mounts and forward rail mounts, but they seem to be the only options for AK pistols (except adding a bulky side mount). The most important thing to me is that it holds zero, and I'm just worried that when I have to remove my gas tube to clean it, things may go back together just a smidge differently then they came off. Also, how hard will it be to add a light that hangs kind of forward of the rail (but is still attached to the rail)?
I'd greatly appreciate the clarification. These things look awesome BTW. Good job, I know there's alot to it. I'm excited for them to become available! |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/1/2014 5:51:53 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I have always had a side mount on my AK. Just recently, I bought a Pap AK pistol. Would this particular set up have any issues with holding zero? I know that I was always told to stay away from dust cover mounts and forward rail mounts, but they seem to be the only options for AK pistols (except adding a bulky side mount). The most important thing to me is that it holds zero, and I'm just worried that when I have to remove my gas tube to clean it, things may go back together just a smidge differently then they came off. Also, how hard will it be to add a light that hangs kind of forward of the rail (but is still attached to the rail)? I'd greatly appreciate the clarification. These things look awesome BTW. Good job, I know there's alot to it. I'm excited for them to become available! I wouldn't worry about it too much, Manticore is using existing retaining plates and the factory gas tube, should be tight. Maybe one tenth of a smidge? At that point shooter error would be much greater anyways, especially at the distances m92s are used. But that is my opinion and not fact. Manticore, I am eagerly awaiting your product. Two questions though: You said aftermarket will work. Would that include Impact Weapons Components Mount-n-slot? (for those of use with the magpul furniture on ARs, I believe I read somewhere that yes) And, would you consider in the mid future of offering the handguard in keymod? |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/1/2014 9:08:21 PM EDT
[#50]
There should be no issues with zero, the Yugo PAP gas tube mounting system is inherently pretty sturdy and from what we have tested should allow for holding zero with no issues.
As for a light that hangs out in front, don't worry, we already got that covered- we just haven't shown details yet, it involves a patent that is in the works right now.
Yes, both Magpul polymer rail segments and Impact Weapon Component Mount-n-SLot accessories will work on the ARCLight slot system shown on the Renegade forearm. We specifically designed the ARClight slot system that way from the outset to allow a host of accessories on day 1.
Due to the chamfer on the inner surface of Keymod slot it is not conducive to molding in a lot of products, including the Renegade forearm. There are already a host of accessories that work on the ARClight and we will be introducing more, so we have no plans to do Keymod on the forearm. |
|
|
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
