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ragincajun1919
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Posted: 10/18/2011 4:34:13 PM EST
Are these legitimate Knight's gear? Are they more than likely stolen? They are marked USMC on the base of the sight.
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Posted: 10/18/2011 5:58:17 PM EST
SGP.
C. Reed Knight III
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Posted: 10/19/2011 2:54:41 AM EST
Originally Posted By 030:
SGP.


Thats what I figured. Damn.
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Posted: 10/19/2011 3:25:01 AM EST
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SGP.


Didn't know that, saw several for sale in the EE recently.
KevinB
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Posted: 10/19/2011 7:30:12 AM EST
The USMC has bought aprox 250,000 of their version on the Micro 2-600m Sight

Unfortunately some are being diverted from the troops who need them.

Kevin S. Boland

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Knight's Armament Company
701 Columbia Blvd.
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ragincajun1919
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Posted: 10/19/2011 9:03:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By KevinB:
The USMC has bought aprox 250,000 of their version on the Micro 2-600m Sight

Unfortunately some are being diverted from the troops who need them.



If one was to have purchased one before knowing it was stolen, what can be done by purchaser to return said property to its rightful owner (the USMC)?
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Posted: 10/19/2011 9:56:45 AM EST
I bought a Grip Pod on eBay that turned out to be stolen. I got contacted by some NCIS folks who worked out the details of getting it back. I can put you in contact with someone in GA with NCIS. He gave me his contact info so if I ever had a question about any item being "hot" to call and ask him. PM me if you need that info.
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Posted: 10/20/2011 12:30:13 AM EST
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By KevinB:
The USMC has bought aprox 250,000 of their version on the Micro 2-600m Sight

Unfortunately some are being diverted from the troops who need them.



If one was to have purchased one before knowing it was stolen, what can be done by purchaser to return said property to its rightful owner (the USMC)?


It is not going to end up with the Marines.
In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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Posted: 10/20/2011 8:28:59 AM EST
200-600 meter KAC Micro sights for the USMC? I thought the Marines shoot in yards not meters.
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Posted: 10/20/2011 9:29:31 AM EST
Originally Posted By baergunner:
200-600 meter KAC Micro sights for the USMC? I thought the Marines shoot in yards not meters.


even us old Air Force troops measure our weapon related stuff in meters, hence a 550 meter point target, and 800 meter area target for max effective range of the M16A2 rifle.
Mattyvac
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Posted: 10/21/2011 8:15:45 AM EST
There is an eBay seller who has been listing these USMC marked sights once every week for the past four weeks now.
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Posted: 10/21/2011 8:15:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2011 8:16:43 AM EST by KevinB]
Pretty much everyone is shooting in Meters now.

Do you have a link to the EBay seller? I'd love for someone to go have a 'talk' with them...



Kevin S. Boland

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Knight's Armament Company
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Posted: 10/21/2011 1:16:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By cmcflex:
I bought a Grip Pod on eBay that turned out to be stolen. I got contacted by some NCIS folks who worked out the details of getting it back. I can put you in contact with someone in GA with NCIS. He gave me his contact info so if I ever had a question about any item being "hot" to call and ask him. PM me if you need that info.


How many Gibbs and DiNozzo jokes do you think those NCIS guys get every day?
Mattyvac
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Posted: 10/22/2011 3:27:54 PM EST
Originally Posted By KevinB:
Pretty much everyone is shooting in Meters now.

Do you have a link to the EBay seller? I'd love for someone to go have a 'talk' with them...





I don't have it saved anymore. I figured he would get picked up by the .mil eventually but if it comes up again I'll post it.
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Posted: 10/24/2011 4:37:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By KevinB:
Pretty much everyone is shooting in Meters now.

Do you have a link to the EBay seller? I'd love for someone to go have a 'talk' with them...





I won an auction for one but didn't want to pay until I hears if they were legit/ stolen. I didn't pay. Will be forwarding his info to NCIS
Mattyvac
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Posted: 10/24/2011 7:20:44 AM EST
Originally Posted By ragincajun1919:
Originally Posted By KevinB:
Pretty much everyone is shooting in Meters now.

Do you have a link to the EBay seller? I'd love for someone to go have a 'talk' with them...





I won an auction for one but didn't want to pay until I hears if they were legit/ stolen. I didn't pay. Will be forwarding his info to NCIS


HA. even better than me finding the link.

Go for it.
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Posted: 10/24/2011 7:27:27 AM EST
Is that why I got a piece of paper on my weapon where the rear sight should be marked KAC USMC?

Those sneaky bastards...




Glad to see someone take initiative.
If people stopped looking for things to be offended by they wouldn't be so ridiculously miserable.
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Posted: 10/24/2011 8:16:43 AM EST
these? they seem to be all over the internet.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2845950
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Posted: 10/26/2011 6:59:10 AM EST
Found another one.

link to ebay seller
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Posted: 10/26/2011 9:36:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By baergunner:
Found another one.

link to ebay seller


Looks like someone might have sold/trade it to him since he seems to be a legit seller of memorabilia.
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Posted: 11/22/2011 8:48:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/22/2011 8:48:17 AM EST by Mattyvac]
Here is a guy who has 15 USMC marked micro sights for sale on eBay:

Are they really stealing them by the handful? Lol

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320798059858?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_922
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KevinB
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Posted: 11/22/2011 11:31:14 AM EST
Well I just reported that to EBay and forwarded to the USMC.

Kevin S. Boland

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Knight's Armament Company
701 Columbia Blvd.
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Posted: 11/22/2011 2:05:43 PM EST
I would recommend going VFR direct to NCISthat is who would have to handle it for the Marine Corps or the Navy for things of this nature.
In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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Posted: 11/22/2011 2:35:48 PM EST
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Here is the sellers response:

i didnt know i just found these in a unit i bought last week. i just found them scattered i had no clue

- drewhemi


Lol
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Posted: 11/22/2011 3:17:04 PM EST
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It seems like the vast majority of sellers probably don't in fact know what they're buying isn't kosher. Other than someone asking, "hey what are these?" and Trey educating folks that they're unique to the USMC, 99.9 percent of civilians wouldn't have had a clue. Please don't mistake this as defending selling SGP, because that's not cool, just that we live in a world with ebay, craigslist, etc and some of these sellers may have stumbled on to something by accident. So the question is how do you stem this stuff from being fenced by mil-personal to begin with, before it ends up in the hands of an un-suspecting CIV who doesn't know (and thus isn't thrown under the NCIS bus in the process)?

I know from just visting the surplus stores up near Ft. Lewis that there's some really weird and random parts, gear, pouches, that end up in the bins. Some of it looks like it was dropped off from the armorers, some from soldiers coming back from deployment trying to make a few bucks. When you see shit like BE Meyers target pointers thrown in with the occasional Scout light you're like, "uhhh...time to walk away slowly and get back in the car."

So for all that guy you contacted knows he really had no idea, and him trying to trace back the origin helps companies like KAC, NCIS, etc since they can stem where the parts are bleeding out from. Anyways, just my .2 cents.
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Posted: 11/23/2011 6:10:55 AM EST
NCIS is now aware.

I'm not trying to start a witch hunt, but its not cool that folks are selling multiple items on EBay to enrich themselves when their fellow servicemembers are going without items while deployed.

Kevin S. Boland

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Knight's Armament Company
701 Columbia Blvd.
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1(321)607-9900 ext. 1365
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