AR15.com sees it first! Primary Arms is set to announce our new full size Advanced 30mm Red Dot on Monday, but we are giving Arfcommers a head start!



Primary Arms has only offered microdots for awhile now, but we continued to get a lot of calls and requests for full size red dots using a standard 30mm tube. We wanted to come back to the classic full size red dot, and make it better than ever. Here are the highlights:

• Lighter and stronger 1-piece body
• Improved recoil rating
• Dot size: 2 MOA and super crisp
• Battery life: Estimated 14,000 hours (more than a year and a half) at a medium setting
• Night vision compatibility: First 3 settings out of 10 are NV and cannot be seen by the naked eye
• Improved rotary brightness control knob
• Warranty: Lifetime Warranty

The new one-piece body is stronger and lighter, made of 6061 aluminum and Type II hardcoat anodized black. A factory FDE coated version will be available later on this year.

The included battery is a CR1/3N, but in a pinch you can stack two LR44s instead.

The rotary brightness control knob is a big improvement over previous models. You'll notice there are two "0" settings, one on the low end and one on the high end. Unlike previous knobs that rotated continuously, this knob has a stop built into it. When you are finished shooting you don't even need to look at the unit, just reach down and twist the knob until it stops in either direction and you know the red dot is off.



The Advanced 30mm Red Dot is covered by our lifetime warranty. If a defect due to materials or workmanship, or even normal wear and tear, has caused it to malfunction, Primary Arms will either repair or replace it. You don't even need a proof of purchase.

Any standard 30mm ring type mount will work with this red dot and give the stated co-witness for that mount. Weight is 5.8 ounces, and it comes with flip caps and a rubber "octopus" cap tether to retain your turret caps.



The Advanced 30mm Red Dot is in stock now and ready to ship for $129.99 BUY IT HERE

Here's Dimitri with some video for you guys!

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very nice

Seems like a good reason to build another AR...

Sweeeetttttt

I wanted something that size with a 2moa dot but just got a SparcAR. Dammit, day late and a dollar short.

That battery....

Yes, I know others use it.  Still don't use them either.

AA or AAA would be a winner for me.

I have a rotary brightness control on my Vortex Spitfire and I'd rather have that then a push button any day

Looking forward to see some reviews and test

That battery....

Yes, I know others use it.  Still don't use them either.

Well, PA announced this thing months ago so it should not be a surprise.

ETA:  The PA website pages are not rendering for me.  Tried several different browsers too.
OK, when I click on the link in the thread the pages load, but when I try the ARFCOM header link they do not.

ETA2:  Works now.

I've been waiting for a sub-$300 30mm with a 2moa dot.  

Just to clarify, this is the same battery that the Aimpoint PRO uses, correct?
It'd be really nice if my duty rifle and personal rifle used the same batteries for a change.

Yes, the CR 1/3N, also known as the DL 1/3N. They have a fine shelf life, snag a ten-pack from Amazon and you'll be all set for years and years.

Good!


Ordered. 

Received, mounted, and roughly zeroed off my irons.  Hopefully I'll get a chance to shoot it Monday.  

Damn y'all ship fast. 

First impressions?

I like it.  I've got it mounted on my only personal AR, an M&P Sport that until now had an Bushnell TRS-25.

My impression so far.

Weight is more or less on par with the PRO from what I can tell.  I think the PRO has a heavier mount (I got the PA cantilever). 

Glass may be a bit more tinted than the PRO, but I'll have to shoot them side by side to find out.  Indoors, there's occasionally some weird ambient light reflecting around inside the scope.  It's present, and noticeable, but not distracting.  

Like the PRO, it isn't as bright in direct sunlight as I'd expected.  However, it's still very visible unless there's something reflecting a lot of light back.  

Dial controls and sight adjustments all feel very positive when moved.   Rough zeroing off of irons was a piece of cake, made only slightly more difficult by the fact that I didn't have a level and just eyeballed the scope orientation. 

Mount feels nice and solid.  We'll see how everything works under recoil. 



I'll have a more thorough impression after I shoot it side-by-side with the PRO (on my dept patrol rifle),  but so far I'm impressed.  I've been looking for a quality 30mm scope with a 2moa dot for less cost than an Aimpoint, and I'm glad I finally found one.  I know that there are people that will say "just save up and buy the PRO", but at this price I can buy 2 more spare PA's for the same total cost. 

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Ok.

Got it zeroed and shot it side by side with the PRO.  

The glass is a BIT more tinted on the PA scope.  But I was dead wrong on the brightness.  This highest setting on the PRO version is equal to the 7 setting on the PA.  For bright sunlight the PA is the way to go.

This scope is great!  I look forward to shooting it a lot more and seeing how well it holds up, but from what I saw today I'd prefer to use the PA 30mm.

Purchased one of these last week and I can see the dot on the N1, N2 and N3 settings. Is this correct? Thought those settings would only be visible with night vision.

Just looked through the one my coworker has mounted on his Scorpion Evo and sure enough, if you take it into the bathroom with the lights off you can barely see the dot even on N1. I'm surprised by that.

Will these make their way north to Kanadastan?

Mine is the same.  I can see N3 no problem indoors with the lights off.  Not complaining, because I don't have NV, but they are visible.

Been running mine through its paces on a 10.5 upper with the AD high mount. I am getting a strange reflection or something in the red dot glass. I'll try and capture a picture of it, because I am curious if it is just me, or common for a 30mm dot. It looks like a strong reflection that doesn't go away in the lower left area. 

does the aimpoint rubber cover for the m68/m2 fit this new PA 30mm red dot?

Honestly I don't know. I asked if anyone had one lying around we could try on, and nobody does. We certainly didn't intentionally design the optic to be compatible with Aimpoint accessories, so if it does fit it is pure coincidence.