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Posted: 8/22/2016 4:28:09 PM EDT
I heard a rumor and just wanted to know if it was true . Thanks,
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ALL of our products are made right here in the US at our main facility in Columbia, South Carolina.
We have been the victims of many rumors, started mostly by folks who did not appreciate the competition. |
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ALL of our products are made right here in the US at our main facility in Columbia, South Carolina. We have been the victims of many rumors, started mostly by folks who did not appreciate the competition. View Quote Did you mean to say that you make all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina? Do you have hammer mills for barrels? Spring coilers? Do you cut all of your sheet for your 9mm magazines? You forge your own receivers? You do all of your own finish milling on your receivers? You do all of your own anodizing and coating? Etc. If so, I find that more than hard to believe since almost no one in the industry with far larger industrial capacity does all of that. It just isn't cost effective to in source that amount of production on those products you sell and the capex to be able to do all of that would be insane on the margins you have to live on. Perhaps you meant to say that you assemble all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina (except for those parts which you obvious do not)? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. |
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Did you mean to say that you make all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina? Do you have hammer mills for barrels? Spring coilers? Do you cut all of your sheet for your 9mm magazines? You forge your own receivers? You do all of your own finish milling on your receivers? You do all of your own anodizing and coating? Etc. If so, I find that more than hard to believe since almost no one in the industry with far larger industrial capacity does all of that. It just isn't cost effective to in source that amount of production on those products you sell and the capex to be able to do all of that would be insane on the margins you have to live on. Perhaps you meant to say that you assemble all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina (except for those parts which you obvious do not)? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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ALL of our products are made right here in the US at our main facility in Columbia, South Carolina. We have been the victims of many rumors, started mostly by folks who did not appreciate the competition. Did you mean to say that you make all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina? Do you have hammer mills for barrels? Spring coilers? Do you cut all of your sheet for your 9mm magazines? You forge your own receivers? You do all of your own finish milling on your receivers? You do all of your own anodizing and coating? Etc. If so, I find that more than hard to believe since almost no one in the industry with far larger industrial capacity does all of that. It just isn't cost effective to in source that amount of production on those products you sell and the capex to be able to do all of that would be insane on the margins you have to live on. Perhaps you meant to say that you assemble all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina (except for those parts which you obvious do not)? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. i have a feeling that the answer of the past was what you're saying. I have a feeling that the answer of the present and future is yes. they mean exactly that they make it here in SC. |
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I'm pretty sure the AH uppers, FN barrels, brass aluminum forge (square logo) uppers, Wilson barrels, toolcraft bags, psa d&h mags, magpul build kits, MI handguards etc that were included on uppers or bought a la carte are all made in the USA. Then assembled in SC. Obviously they were not all made at PSA factory.
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I'm pretty sure the AH uppers, FN barrels, brass aluminum forge (square logo) uppers, Wilson barrels, toolcraft bags, psa d&h mags, magpul build kits, MI handguards etc that were included on uppers or bought a la carte are all made in the USA. Then assembled in SC. Obviously they were not all made at PSA factory. View Quote everything you just listed is not a PSA branded item. |
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i have a feeling that the answer of the past was what you're saying. I have a feeling that the answer of the present and future is yes. they mean exactly that they make it here in SC. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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ALL of our products are made right here in the US at our main facility in Columbia, South Carolina. We have been the victims of many rumors, started mostly by folks who did not appreciate the competition. Did you mean to say that you make all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina? Do you have hammer mills for barrels? Spring coilers? Do you cut all of your sheet for your 9mm magazines? You forge your own receivers? You do all of your own finish milling on your receivers? You do all of your own anodizing and coating? Etc. If so, I find that more than hard to believe since almost no one in the industry with far larger industrial capacity does all of that. It just isn't cost effective to in source that amount of production on those products you sell and the capex to be able to do all of that would be insane on the margins you have to live on. Perhaps you meant to say that you assemble all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina (except for those parts which you obvious do not)? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. i have a feeling that the answer of the past was what you're saying. I have a feeling that the answer of the present and future is yes. they mean exactly that they make it here in SC. Can you give me the address for this facility? It would be insanely interesting if PSA had that level of vertical integration but what you and PSA claim seems unlikely especially given the satellite and street views of the size of the Columbia facility. Quoted:I'm pretty sure the AH uppers, FN barrels, brass aluminum forge (square logo) uppers, Wilson barrels, toolcraft bags, psa d&h mags, magpul build kits, MI handguards etc that were included on uppers or bought a la carte are all made in the USA. Then assembled in SC. Obviously they were not all made at PSA factory. Ding, ding, ding. The question originally, I'm sure, has arisen from when PSA won't say who makes the parts (what are you going to do though when that is contractual...piss your vendors off????) they assemble leaving them open to people saying (rightly or wrongly) that they are using foreign parts and that is how they price the way they do. That said, even if PSA does everything right and your vendors are all in the USA, getting foreign made parts from your US vendors is easy by accident or by intention (by the supplier cutting corners or the vendor getting conned or lack of oversight from the integrator) and when it comes to to small parts insanely easy. Particularly when it comes to screws, bolts, pins, spring, fasteners, etc. Unless you have insane auditing, you are probably going to end up with something from offshore no matter who you are. Hell, the DOD has this happen all the time on high end parts let alone small stuff like fasteners: https://www.wired.com/2008/04/fake-parts-in-a/ https://www.wired.com/2011/06/chips-oy-spies-want-to-hack-proof-circuits/#more-49990 |
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Thank you for your comments.
Our main facility, where all our retail products are currently produced, is in Columbia. West Columbia, for those that insist on accuracy. We do outsource some components, like our hammer forged barrels, and some we contract out to US companies who manufacture in the US. Our volume allows us to share vendors with FN, Colt, and Smith and Wesson for parts they also find economical to purchase. This volume buying power we pass along to the public with lower prices, while not sacrificing quality. We are constantly looking for ways to bring production in house, either through expansion or acquisition. This is a competitive business. As such, you can appreciate our reluctance to spell out to the competition exactly how to duplicate our success. Those who do not understand how this can be done in the US, are happy to spread rumors. |
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Did you mean to say that you make all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina? Do you have hammer mills for barrels? Spring coilers? Do you cut all of your sheet for your 9mm magazines? You forge your own receivers? You do all of your own finish milling on your receivers? You do all of your own anodizing and coating? Etc. If so, I find that more than hard to believe since almost no one in the industry with far larger industrial capacity does all of that. It just isn't cost effective to in source that amount of production on those products you sell and the capex to be able to do all of that would be insane on the margins you have to live on. Perhaps you meant to say that you assemble all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina (except for those parts which you obvious do not)? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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ALL of our products are made right here in the US at our main facility in Columbia, South Carolina. We have been the victims of many rumors, started mostly by folks who did not appreciate the competition. Did you mean to say that you make all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina? Do you have hammer mills for barrels? Spring coilers? Do you cut all of your sheet for your 9mm magazines? You forge your own receivers? You do all of your own finish milling on your receivers? You do all of your own anodizing and coating? Etc. If so, I find that more than hard to believe since almost no one in the industry with far larger industrial capacity does all of that. It just isn't cost effective to in source that amount of production on those products you sell and the capex to be able to do all of that would be insane on the margins you have to live on. Perhaps you meant to say that you assemble all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina (except for those parts which you obvious do not)? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. There are probably fewer than 10 mfrs that make ALL the AR15 parts sold by ALL of the retailers. Colt doesn't make all of their parts. Neither does DD, BCM, Noveske, etc, etc, etc... |
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Can you give me the address for this facility? It would be insanely interesting if PSA had that level of vertical integration but what you and PSA claim seems unlikely especially given the satellite and street views of the size of the Columbia facility. Ding, ding, ding. The question originally, I'm sure, has arisen from when PSA won't say who makes the parts (what are you going to do though when that is contractual...piss your vendors off????) they assemble leaving them open to people saying (rightly or wrongly) that they are using foreign parts and that is how they price the way they do. That said, even if PSA does everything right and your vendors are all in the USA, getting foreign made parts from your US vendors is easy by accident or by intention (by the supplier cutting corners or the vendor getting conned or lack of oversight from the integrator) and when it comes to to small parts insanely easy. Particularly when it comes to screws, bolts, pins, spring, fasteners, etc. Unless you have insane auditing, you are probably going to end up with something from offshore no matter who you are. Hell, the DOD has this happen all the time on high end parts let alone small stuff like fasteners: https://www.wired.com/2008/04/fake-parts-in-a/ https://www.wired.com/2011/06/chips-oy-spies-want-to-hack-proof-circuits/#more-49990 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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ALL of our products are made right here in the US at our main facility in Columbia, South Carolina. We have been the victims of many rumors, started mostly by folks who did not appreciate the competition. Did you mean to say that you make all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina? Do you have hammer mills for barrels? Spring coilers? Do you cut all of your sheet for your 9mm magazines? You forge your own receivers? You do all of your own finish milling on your receivers? You do all of your own anodizing and coating? Etc. If so, I find that more than hard to believe since almost no one in the industry with far larger industrial capacity does all of that. It just isn't cost effective to in source that amount of production on those products you sell and the capex to be able to do all of that would be insane on the margins you have to live on. Perhaps you meant to say that you assemble all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina (except for those parts which you obvious do not)? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. i have a feeling that the answer of the past was what you're saying. I have a feeling that the answer of the present and future is yes. they mean exactly that they make it here in SC. Can you give me the address for this facility? It would be insanely interesting if PSA had that level of vertical integration but what you and PSA claim seems unlikely especially given the satellite and street views of the size of the Columbia facility. Quoted:I'm pretty sure the AH uppers, FN barrels, brass aluminum forge (square logo) uppers, Wilson barrels, toolcraft bags, psa d&h mags, magpul build kits, MI handguards etc that were included on uppers or bought a la carte are all made in the USA. Then assembled in SC. Obviously they were not all made at PSA factory. Ding, ding, ding. The question originally, I'm sure, has arisen from when PSA won't say who makes the parts (what are you going to do though when that is contractual...piss your vendors off????) they assemble leaving them open to people saying (rightly or wrongly) that they are using foreign parts and that is how they price the way they do. That said, even if PSA does everything right and your vendors are all in the USA, getting foreign made parts from your US vendors is easy by accident or by intention (by the supplier cutting corners or the vendor getting conned or lack of oversight from the integrator) and when it comes to to small parts insanely easy. Particularly when it comes to screws, bolts, pins, spring, fasteners, etc. Unless you have insane auditing, you are probably going to end up with something from offshore no matter who you are. Hell, the DOD has this happen all the time on high end parts let alone small stuff like fasteners: https://www.wired.com/2008/04/fake-parts-in-a/ https://www.wired.com/2011/06/chips-oy-spies-want-to-hack-proof-circuits/#more-49990 So, If GM ends up with some bolts from China somehow, do we need to call a Corvette a "foreign car?" Some people I swear... |
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My understanding is that the only products at risk of being Chinese made are plastic ripoff components. Pretty confident that PSA gets all their Magpul and other plastic/polymer wares directly from the USA makers. IMO, Magpul is partially to blame for their whole airsoft Chinese licensing fiasco years ago where Chinese companies made substandard airsoft Magpul parts under license and tooled up to make fake copies of their whole product line.
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Old news, huge place imho....
http://www.areadevelopment.com/newsItems/4-10-2014/palmetto-state-armory-production-center-expansion-lexington-south-carolina490232.shtml Next time, get off your lazy butt and do the research yourself. |
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No matter how the corn flakes look, there are always volunteers to piss in it. They run a decent, successful business, investing in American made products and local communities. The next thing haterz will say is " You didn't build that." They hate us cuz they anus.( The Interview).
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Wow, 168,000 sq.ft. facility
That's a pretty damn big space...I thought our new facility of almost 100,000 sq.ft. is large...it's large enough to play soccer on couple forklifts |
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There are probably fewer than 10 mfrs that make ALL the AR15 parts sold by ALL of the retailers. Colt doesn't make all of their parts. Neither does DD, BCM, Noveske, etc, etc, etc... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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ALL of our products are made right here in the US at our main facility in Columbia, South Carolina. We have been the victims of many rumors, started mostly by folks who did not appreciate the competition. Did you mean to say that you make all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina? Do you have hammer mills for barrels? Spring coilers? Do you cut all of your sheet for your 9mm magazines? You forge your own receivers? You do all of your own finish milling on your receivers? You do all of your own anodizing and coating? Etc. If so, I find that more than hard to believe since almost no one in the industry with far larger industrial capacity does all of that. It just isn't cost effective to in source that amount of production on those products you sell and the capex to be able to do all of that would be insane on the margins you have to live on. Perhaps you meant to say that you assemble all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina (except for those parts which you obvious do not)? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. There are probably fewer than 10 mfrs that make ALL the AR15 parts sold by ALL of the retailers. Colt doesn't make all of their parts. Neither does DD, BCM, Noveske, etc, etc, etc... Correct(ish) that everyone uses a fairly uniform pool in most cases but it is more than 10 by a lot, which is what made the original claim: Quoted:
ALL of our products are made right here in the US at our main facility in Columbia, South Carolina. We have been the victims of many rumors, started mostly by folks who did not appreciate the competition. Emphasis was not added by me that is the original post, suspect and in need of clarification which I pointed out what the rep should have said. |
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Old news, huge place imho.... http://www.areadevelopment.com/newsItems/4-10-2014/palmetto-state-armory-production-center-expansion-lexington-south-carolina490232.shtml Next time, get off your lazy butt and do the research yourself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Old news, huge place imho.... http://www.areadevelopment.com/newsItems/4-10-2014/palmetto-state-armory-production-center-expansion-lexington-south-carolina490232.shtml Next time, get off your lazy butt and do the research yourself. ;) I did. That is why I questioned it. 140,000 sq ft and $4.2 million dollars is not sufficient to do what was claimed in the second post in the thread. It is to integrate products from vendors who actually manufacture them which IS PSA's business model. They are not, however, a vertically integrated manufacturer on the scale that was claimed or even on the scale of many much better capitalized firms. Which leads to the most important part that I pointed out: Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. The audit trail is one of the most important parts of quality when serving as a final integrator like PSA (ask Boeing for instance how that works out). The lack of transparency in how that is done or who the vendors are is what lead to the OP's question. As I mentioned above, there is not much PSA can do about the contracts with NDA's but they could talk about their audit trail which might have been a more useful response to the OP. |
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;) I did. That is why I questioned it. 140,000 sq ft and $4.2 million dollars is not sufficient to do what was claimed in the second post in the thread. It is to integrate products from vendors who actually manufacture them which IS PSA's business model. They are not, however, a vertically integrated manufacturer on the scale that was claimed or even on the scale of many much better capitalized firms. Which leads to the most important part that I pointed out: The audit trail is one of the most important parts of quality when serving as a final integrator like PSA (ask Boeing for instance how that works out). The lack of transparency in how that is done or who the vendors are is what lead to the OP's question. As I mentioned above, there is not much PSA can do about the contracts with NDA's but they could talk about their audit trail which might have been a more useful response to the OP. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Old news, huge place imho.... http://www.areadevelopment.com/newsItems/4-10-2014/palmetto-state-armory-production-center-expansion-lexington-south-carolina490232.shtml Next time, get off your lazy butt and do the research yourself. ;) I did. That is why I questioned it. 140,000 sq ft and $4.2 million dollars is not sufficient to do what was claimed in the second post in the thread. It is to integrate products from vendors who actually manufacture them which IS PSA's business model. They are not, however, a vertically integrated manufacturer on the scale that was claimed or even on the scale of many much better capitalized firms. Which leads to the most important part that I pointed out: Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. The audit trail is one of the most important parts of quality when serving as a final integrator like PSA (ask Boeing for instance how that works out). The lack of transparency in how that is done or who the vendors are is what lead to the OP's question. As I mentioned above, there is not much PSA can do about the contracts with NDA's but they could talk about their audit trail which might have been a more useful response to the OP. How do you know the response was insufficient to the OP? There were no follow up questions by the OP. Besides shitting in a PSA thread, what is your point? |
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This answers my questions. I was told that the barrels were no longer being sourced from FN and were offshore
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This answers my questions. I was told that the barrels were no longer being sourced from FN and were offshore View Quote That is incorrect. We still carry FN manufactured CHF and Chrome-Lined barrels. The bulk of our barrels are produced in house at our barrel facility. We still use US companies, that manufacture in the US, for the balance. We sell a lot of barrels, and pass the savings along - it is really no more complicated than that. |
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That is incorrect. We still carry FN manufactured CHF and Chrome-Lined barrels. The bulk of our barrels are produced in house at our barrel facility. We still use US companies, that manufacture in the US, for the balance. We sell a lot of barrels, and pass the savings along - it is really no more complicated than that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This answers my questions. I was told that the barrels were no longer being sourced from FN and were offshore That is incorrect. We still carry FN manufactured CHF and Chrome-Lined barrels. The bulk of our barrels are produced in house at our barrel facility. We still use US companies, that manufacture in the US, for the balance. We sell a lot of barrels, and pass the savings along - it is really no more complicated than that. Thanks very much. I figured I would ignore rumors and go to the source |
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Psa uses FN barrels. I have recently ordered two barrels both being FN.
I don't really care if psa makes each specific part or if they contract these parts out. They say the parts are American made I will take their word for it. I haven't had a single issue with any of their parts and they have all been as described. |
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Some hostility in this thread. I want to thank PSA for doing what you do; good stuff at good prices and for doing the right thing when something goes wrong
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That is incorrect. We still carry FN manufactured CHF and Chrome-Lined barrels. The bulk of our barrels are produced in house at our barrel facility. We still use US companies, that manufacture in the US, for the balance. We sell a lot of barrels, and pass the savings along - it is really no more complicated than that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This answers my questions. I was told that the barrels were no longer being sourced from FN and were offshore That is incorrect. We still carry FN manufactured CHF and Chrome-Lined barrels. The bulk of our barrels are produced in house at our barrel facility. We still use US companies, that manufacture in the US, for the balance. We sell a lot of barrels, and pass the savings along - it is really no more complicated than that. I would, and DO trust PSA barrels with my life, and that of my family. |
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There are probably fewer than 10 mfrs that make ALL the AR15 parts sold by ALL of the retailers. Colt doesn't make all of their parts. Neither does DD, BCM, Noveske, etc, etc, etc... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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ALL of our products are made right here in the US at our main facility in Columbia, South Carolina. We have been the victims of many rumors, started mostly by folks who did not appreciate the competition. Did you mean to say that you make all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina? Do you have hammer mills for barrels? Spring coilers? Do you cut all of your sheet for your 9mm magazines? You forge your own receivers? You do all of your own finish milling on your receivers? You do all of your own anodizing and coating? Etc. If so, I find that more than hard to believe since almost no one in the industry with far larger industrial capacity does all of that. It just isn't cost effective to in source that amount of production on those products you sell and the capex to be able to do all of that would be insane on the margins you have to live on. Perhaps you meant to say that you assemble all of your products right here in the US at your main facility in Columbia, South Carolina (except for those parts which you obvious do not)? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US? Or that you source your components that you assemble from vendors who claim to make everything in the US and you audit their production? I'd actually be interested in the last one. There are probably fewer than 10 mfrs that make ALL the AR15 parts sold by ALL of the retailers. Colt doesn't make all of their parts. Neither does DD, BCM, Noveske, etc, etc, etc... I think that's old outdated info. Like the man said. Don't spread rumors. |
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Psa uses FN barrels. I have recently ordered two barrels both being FN. I don't really care if psa makes each specific part or if they contract these parts out. They say the parts are American made I will take their word for it. I haven't had a single issue with any of their parts and they have all been as described. View Quote Only a few lines use FN barrels. I also noticed that the wording on the CHF non-premium barrels states the steel is an FN steel but doesn't state their barrels are made by FN. I don't mind either way... |
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I was referring to the guy saying that he heard FN is no longer sourcing their barrels to psa. I recently purchased a non premium assembly and it had the FN stamp on it.
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Only a few lines use FN barrels. I also noticed that the wording on the CHF non-premium barrels states the steel is an FN steel but doesn't state their barrels are made by FN. I don't mind either way... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Psa uses FN barrels. I have recently ordered two barrels both being FN. I don't really care if psa makes each specific part or if they contract these parts out. They say the parts are American made I will take their word for it. I haven't had a single issue with any of their parts and they have all been as described. Only a few lines use FN barrels. I also noticed that the wording on the CHF non-premium barrels states the steel is an FN steel but doesn't state their barrels are made by FN. I don't mind either way... The CHF Chrome-lined barrels are made for us by FN, using FN's proprietary CMV alloy. |
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The CHF Chrome-lined barrels are made for us by FN, using FN's proprietary CMV alloy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Psa uses FN barrels. I have recently ordered two barrels both being FN. I don't really care if psa makes each specific part or if they contract these parts out. They say the parts are American made I will take their word for it. I haven't had a single issue with any of their parts and they have all been as described. Only a few lines use FN barrels. I also noticed that the wording on the CHF non-premium barrels states the steel is an FN steel but doesn't state their barrels are made by FN. I don't mind either way... The CHF Chrome-lined barrels are made for us by FN, using FN's proprietary CMV alloy. Awesome to know. So it's just a different material vs the premiums? |
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Awesome to know. So it's just a different material vs the premiums? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Psa uses FN barrels. I have recently ordered two barrels both being FN. I don't really care if psa makes each specific part or if they contract these parts out. They say the parts are American made I will take their word for it. I haven't had a single issue with any of their parts and they have all been as described. Only a few lines use FN barrels. I also noticed that the wording on the CHF non-premium barrels states the steel is an FN steel but doesn't state their barrels are made by FN. I don't mind either way... The CHF Chrome-lined barrels are made for us by FN, using FN's proprietary CMV alloy. Awesome to know. So it's just a different material vs the premiums? That is correct. The premiums are Mil-spec chrome moly vanadium, same as used in the m16's. The CHF barrels are made from a different alloy, designed for the M240 machine guns. It also incorporates their special chrome lining process which results in a chrome lining almost twice as thick as the M16 spec. |
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There always has to be the corn flake pissers
Keep it up PSA. Now only if you can get more of those FN CHF uppers in stock |
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The only complaint about PSA that I have is that they have a lot of my money. In turn I have a lot of their product. I have never been short changed by them.
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