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Posted: 4/23/2017 1:28:06 AM EDT
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[#1]
Looks like it has the 14.5 SOCOM upper with M203 cutouts, standard hand guard, side swivel sling mount, and a pinned extended flash hider that i've never seen before.
Maybe just Colt cleaning out it's M4A1 parts bin and making them into 16" LE6920. The closest thing currently is Colt Expanse HB (CE2000HB) http://www.colt.com/Catalog/Rifles/Expanse-M4 BTW, the QR code shows the model #, serial #, and some date (10042017) |
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[#3]
I've not seen a LE6920 with a factory pinned 14.5" SOCOM barrel and pinned FS. Nice score!
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[#6]
6920 heavy barrel pin and weld?
If I ordered a 6920 and that upper showed up I think I'd have a problem with that |
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[#7]
Congrats on that new Colt 6920 M4 model!
To me personally I would prefer that new model with the SOCOM heavy barrel 14.5" compared with the standard LE6920 16" gov't profile barrel (which I have). If I ever have that new model carbine I would just have 3 upgrades like KAC M4 RAS rails, MATECH rear BUIS and an Aimpoint M4 RDS to make it into a M4A1 carbine clone. |
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[#11]
I've seen this version at 3 different gun stores in my area including a gun show this past weekend. They all seem to be price just below $1000 in the stores. Looks like a nice carbine, but is probably just some limited run item from Colt. I did think the flash hider was cool, not sure the make of it though.
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[#12]
Colt is doing this with some Expanses also. CL /14.5" pin+welded/SOCOM profile.
If I were expecting a std. LE 6920, I'd be a little pissed too. 2013/2015/2017 date mash is a cobble. Fwiw, those bbls shoot awesome. No choice on MD is a bummer. |
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[#14]
As someone has already mentioned, the HBPW probably stands for "Heavy Barrel Pin/Weld."
With the military slowly moving to exclusively M4A1s vice M4s, with Colt providing replacement barrels to convert existing M4s to M4A1 specs, this makes sense from a logistical standpoint, and many folks have been asking for 14.5" pinned and welded versions of the 6920/6921 for a long time. That being said, if I had ordered a 6920, knowing what a 6920 is, then I would have done so wanting and expecting a 16" unpinned barrel, so I would be a little irked if this is what showed up. At the same time, it is probably a non-issue to 95% of people buying stock 6920s. The flash suppressor looks like an in-house custom made part, just a longer A2 flash suppressor, similar to the "double nut" mods that some have done, instead of a spacer. I hope that Colt adds this as a standard model--but they should not substitute them for 6920s without notice. ~Augee |
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[#16]
A bayonet will fit this barrel length too instead if the 6920's 16.1".
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[#17]
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As someone has already mentioned, the HBPW probably stands for "Heavy Barrel Pin/Weld." With the military slowly moving to exclusively M4A1s vice M4s, with Colt providing replacement barrels to convert existing M4s to M4A1 specs, this makes sense from a logistical standpoint, and many folks have been asking for 14.5" pinned and welded versions of the 6920/6921 for a long time. That being said, if I had ordered a 6920, knowing what a 6920 is, then I would have done so wanting and expecting a 16" unpinned barrel, so I would be a little irked if this is what showed up. At the same time, it is probably a non-issue to 95% of people buying stock 6920s. The flash suppressor looks like an in-house custom made part, just a longer A2 flash suppressor, similar to the "double nut" mods that some have done, instead of a spacer. I hope that Colt adds this as a standard model--but they should not substitute them for 6920s without notice. ~Augee View Quote |
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[#20]
So I spoke to a Colt sales rep yesterday and inquired about this model. He stated that it was a limited run (300 units) and all went to a certain dealers across the country. He continued to say that if I liked this model, that I may be pretty excited about what is coming from Colt in the next two or so months. Wouldn't expand any further. We shall see. Hopefully it'll be a 14.5 upper on a M4A1 marked lower.
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[#21]
I know the answer is because Colt.
But shouldn't be a 6921HB or some such and not 6920? |
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[#22]
From what I can determine.
6921HB is a SOCOM 14.5" unpinned barrel with A2 FS that is still considered 14.5" 6920HBPW is a SOCOM 14.5" with extended A2 FS that is pinned and welded making it a legal 16+" barrel. |
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[#25]
Does anyone know where I can order one of these?
Thanks, 1981 |
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[#26]
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So I spoke to a Colt sales rep yesterday and inquired about this model. He stated that it was a limited run (300 units) and all went to a certain dealers across the country. He continued to say that if I liked this model, that I may be pretty excited about what is coming from Colt in the next two or so months. Wouldn't expand any further. We shall see. Hopefully it'll be a 14.5 upper on a M4A1 marked lower. View Quote |
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[#30]
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Notice the box end label says 223, but barrel is stamped5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v157/mjfrog1/Colt%20LE6920/Colt%20LE%206920%20Box%20end%20label_zps96la5qqx.jpg56, my LE 6920 SOCOM box end label lists caliber as 5.56 View Quote ~Augee |
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[#31]
I really like what I am seeing. I was thinking of getting a FN M4 military collector model but the $1700 price tag is a little steep. I was very close to picking up a standard 6920 and doing a barrel swap. I could get one of these and add a KAC rail and Matech rear sight and be GTG for a few hundred less. It's nice they used a somewhat standard A2 type flash hider rather than the Vortex from the CE2000HB.
I assume the BCG has standard Colt markings. |
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[#35]
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Does a standard Bayonet mount correctly??? View Quote I'm considering a 6921CK upper for a gun I wanna put together. Wanna throw a JP flash hider on it and either a Colt or LMT Carry handle. Then I'll throw that on an ADM ambi lower I just bought and am putting together. Kind of a weird mix of old and new lol. But if heavy barrels are an option I'd totally rather go that route over the CK (standard thickness) |
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[#36]
I would be curious if this is going to be a standard model in the future.
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[#40]
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$940 from a non sponsor, as of just now. Do a search with the model #. |
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[#41]
I think that's a neat variant for those wanting the SOCOM barrel weight. I wish Colt still installed the side-sling-swivel on all 6920s.
Honestly, Colt always "cleans out the parts bins". As I've mentioned in other threads..I bought my first Colt AR in 1984, and have owned many since then. I've seen all manner of mixed parts direct from the factory. I think they just phase in / out and use up whatever's available. This was especially true in the Green Label guns. I had all kinds of odd ball mixtures (A1 upper with A2 barrel, A1 upper with A2 brass deflector, A2 upper with no-fence lower, etc etc etc). People like to complain about current Colt quality, but honestly the 6720 and 6920 I have now are better then the older Colts I owned in the past. |
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[#42]
Its also refreshing to see the C MP barrel marking again. I can envision the newer Cage Code marking being an issue in the future when trying to resell a Colt to someone who doesn't know they changed (after 50 years of using the same rollmark..).
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[#43]
Colt using up excess inventory and mix and match is no different than BFI doing it post ban. Slap every available component together and sell them.
As far as the Colt cage code stamping vs the C MP? Anybody with web access can decipher that in about 45 seconds. And, imo, current Colt quality is nowhere near 2005 era. |
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[#44]
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That is a nice score!! Colt would sell a truck load of these if they became a regular catalog model; also add the the M4A1 lower again with this model View Quote |
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[#46]
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Any updates on what Colt is doing this summer? I'm considering a 6921CK upper for a gun I wanna put together. Wanna throw a JP flash hider on it and either a Colt or LMT Carry handle. Then I'll throw that on an ADM ambi lower I just bought and am putting together. Kind of a weird mix of old and new lol. But if heavy barrels are an option I'd totally rather go that route over the CK (standard thickness) View Quote |
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[#47]
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Colt using up excess inventory and mix and match is no different than BFI doing it post ban. Slap every available component together and sell them. As far as the Colt cage code stamping vs the C MP? Anybody with web access can decipher that in about 45 seconds. And, imo, current Colt quality is nowhere near 2005 era. View Quote - Sear blocks vs no sear blocks - Bayonet lugs vs no bayonet lugs (there is another thread on here where I noticed a guy's new 6720 does not have a lug) - Green and Blue Label Prebans were a crap shoot (you could end up with anything...fenced lower or not; A1 upper or A2; screw front take down or push; etc...had them all). From a visual fit and finish standpoint I don't agree with your 2005 comment. I recently sold my 2005 Law Enforcement Carbine marked 6920. It had excessive upper/lower wobble, two tone finish (the lower was black and the upper was the famous "Colt blue"), assembly scratches (the BHO looked like they drove a screw driver into the hole), etc. However, excluding one 6520 I bought used...I've never had a performance issue with Colt (regardless of the model or production date). All I care about is getting the best performance. |
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[#48]
I can see where someone would be upset if they expected a nonPW muzzle device. This is a functional issue for someone wanting to use a can. As many have mentioned, I think this is a case of Colt just using what is being produced at the time. Heck, I've had new Colts with Colt Canada bolt carriers. In the end, I just want an AR that is reliable, reasonably accurate, and durable.
ETA: The 6920 I just bought to replace my LEC 6920 has the Cage Code. I don't care if Colt wanted to roll mark the safety "PEW / NO PEW"...but for a guy that has a hard time keeping a gun I can tell you that the average gun show idiot will see the Cage Code barrel marking and dispute the gun's originality. I've already been down this road with an upper I sold. |
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[#49]
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Colt has always mixed and matched. I've owned dozens of them starting in 1984 to present (last new Colt was bought this month). You never really know what you're going to get unless you inspect the actual unit at the time of purchase. Colt does as Colt wants. - Sear blocks vs no sear blocks - Bayonet lugs vs no bayonet lugs (there is another thread on here where I noticed a guy's new 6720 does not have a lug) - Green and Blue Label Prebans were a crap shoot (you could end up with anything...fenced lower or not; A1 upper or A2; screw front take down or push; etc...had them all). From a visual fit and finish standpoint I don't agree with your 2005 comment. I recently sold my 2005 Law Enforcement Carbine marked 6920. It had excessive upper/lower wobble, two tone finish (the lower was black and the upper was the famous "Colt blue"), assembly scratches (the BHO looked like they drove a screw driver into the hole), etc. However, excluding one 6520 I bought used...I've never had a performance issue with Colt (regardless of the model or production date). All I care about is getting the best performance. View Quote I'm sure there were still exceptions. Whereas the previous exception is now the rule. I still stand behind my Colt products, I just make sure to have it in my hands to inspect it prior to purchasing. |
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[#50]
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If they were really smart.....they would make a barebones M4A1 pistol with an unpinned SOCOM barrel, ambi safety and Geissele trigger.....and drop almost all the other guns. View Quote Of course they could make a ton of money if they just cranked out some DOE 9mm uppers or, heaven forbid, did a pistol version of the DOE with a shockwave! |
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