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Posted: 1/23/2015 11:21:01 AM EDT
Has anyone ever seen or know anything about 6920's with US Property markings on them? I walked into my LGS last night and they had a brand new 6920 with US markings on it. When I asked about it they said it was a limited production and came directly from Colt. If not for the $2500.00 price tag it would have went home with me.
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Is it marked "property of us govt m4 carbine"? I've seen em but not out in the civi world, that's the markings of issued m4, one heck of a collector's piece but like you said comes with a hefty price tag
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Yup. It had the same markings as an issue M4. I tried taking a picture but couldn't with the scratched glass the rifle was in. I did get a picture of it But the markings are not visible.
From an investment standpoint is the price worth it? I imagine it would only increase in value over time but I am unaware of its value. |
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Augee brings up a very good point about it being engraved, but them saying it came straight from colt it could be a rare item or just a sales gimmick
The top picture augee posted is what came to mind from what he was saying in the op with just the prancing pony, but like he said it could be an engraved 80% lower clone, see if he will let you get better pictures |
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It definitely looked like the first picture. I was told they received it directly from their Colt rep.
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I asked Rich the GM for commercial sales and he said nope. It's a made up one or a fake.
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Make another trip to that LGS. Ask to see it then reshoot the pics.
This thread is dead otherwise. |
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From a thread in GD, a member in Nevada picked up a "US Property" marked 6920, looks like Colt has finally forced me to go bankrupt buying every last one I can!!
Willian http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/666906_Colt_U_S__Property_LE6920_M4_Carbine.html |
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There was a company years ago that sold lowers that had US Property marks on them. Not Colt.
Rock River Arms was the manufacturer. |
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I went back and they let me take a picture without the serial number. It is an LEXXXXX serial number. http://<a href=http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m28/Mikesit712/Mobile%20Uploads/20150123_172210_zpsbabde533.jpg</a>" /> View Quote That looks like my issued M-4 Colt roll mark; I don't know if it is legit, though |
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Interesting. Those are definitely roll-marked as would be found on a Colt-produced rifle and not engraved. Any other photos? I think I would personally buy it if the price is right.
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Quoted: Interesting. Those are definitely roll-marked as would be found on a Colt-produced rifle and not engraved. Any other photos? I think I would personally buy it if the price is right. View Quote Not being flippant, but how can you tell? ETA: if this is legit its a must have for me, the only thing I worry about is some overzealous soul questioning me as to why I have usgov property. |
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Interesting. Those are definitely roll-marked as would be found on a Colt-produced rifle and not engraved. Any other photos? I think I would personally buy it if the price is right. View Quote That's the only one I took. It's a 6920 with removable carry handle and M4 stock. Nothing is different other than the markings. As far as the price goes it's $2,500. I completely understand there is going to be a premium but I didn't know if a $1,500 premium was the right price. If it were a premium around $500 over I would have bought it on the spot. For that kind of money I would want documentation or a letter from Colt. It's not that I don't trust the dealer (I do) I would just want something to go along with it. It's obviously a collectors piece and not something one would buy to shoot...at least not on a regular basis. I've been trying to figure out if it's worth the money. No one seems to have any idea. Probably because it is such a rare/odd item. |
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Only worth what one is willing to pay. Too rich for me just for a roll mark.
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I would not want to personally own a gun with a "Property of US Government" rollmark on it...to each their own...
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I believe this "from the horses mouth" info over all the rest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I asked Rich the GM for commercial sales and he said nope. It's a made up one or a fake. I believe this "from the horses mouth" info over all the rest. If it's a fake, it's the best one I've ever seen, and I've seen more than a couple fakes/clones and plenty of real ones. I haven't gotten a clear "origin story" on any of these, but there is clearly more than one, and the physical features all look "right" from photographs. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I'm leaning towards real in this case, like I said - if it's a fake, it's the best I've ever seen - those are rollmarks, not engravings, and everything about the typeface, spacing, sizing, etc. that usually gives away a fake is dead on, if fake, it's a masterpiece. I'm interested in hearing more about these, regardless. As for calling Colt - I've called Colt many times before, and one thing I will say is many times the left hand might not know what the right is doing. That Colt would never sell anything property marked is untrue, as they've sold M1911 and M1911A1 replicas with complete USGI markings, including the property marks. While they may have a different policy for AR15s or for weapons currently in service, they have sold firearms with U.S. PROPERTY marks on the commercial/civilian market. ~Augee |
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Maybe Brent will chime in. He's the manger of the custom shop.
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That's pretty damn cool, says the guy who doesn't care about roll marks (as long as they have the Pony on them...lol).
Interested to see if this is going to be a regular roll mark. |
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That's pretty damn cool, says the guy who doesn't care about roll marks (as long as they have the Pony on them...lol). Interested to see if this is going to be a regular roll mark. View Quote As a regular rollmark replacing the standard "M4 Carbine" rollmark, this will severely tempt me. As a premium "Custom Shop" collectible rollmark, I'd likely pass. Ya hear, Colt? ~Augee |
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As a regular rollmark replacing the standard "M4 Carbine" rollmark, this will severely tempt me. As a premium "Custom Shop" collectible rollmark, I'd likely pass. Ya hear, Colt? ~Augee View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's pretty damn cool, says the guy who doesn't care about roll marks (as long as they have the Pony on them...lol). Interested to see if this is going to be a regular roll mark. As a regular rollmark replacing the standard "M4 Carbine" rollmark, this will severely tempt me. As a premium "Custom Shop" collectible rollmark, I'd likely pass. Ya hear, Colt? ~Augee I'll second that! |
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Interesting. I'd go so far as to examine the box, get the model number and the sku for this bad boy.
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my colt contact told me it was likely a marking mistake
and if so. he said , there will be more than these popping up. so dont be a jackass and pay some huge price for one when there may be a hundred of them come up |
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my colt contact told me it was likely a marking mistake and if so. he said , there will be more than these popping up. so dont be a jackass and pay some huge price for one when there may be a hundred of them come up View Quote +1 must be a mistake.. Like those Colts and Armalites with the Auto marked selector area that were available a few years ago |
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I'd like to have one but not willing to pay $2,500.00 to get one. Having said that one could flog the upper for $500.00 and only be out $2,000.00.
Cheers |
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I called Colt today and spoke to 2 people in customer service who sounded very knowledgeable and they both told me Colt has absolutely not released a 6920 with Property of US government markings. I asked if it could have been a one time mistake and they said they set up a fixture to roll mark and serial number at the SAME time and run thousands of lowers at a time there was no way a single mistake like that would have left.
Could they both be wrong?. I called every Colt distributor I know and they said they have never seen one or heard of such markings on a 6920 Anybody find out more???? |
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Yes it was purchased and the member that purchased it said they would post details here when they receive it.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_118/666906_Colt_U_S__Property_LE6920_M4_Carbine.html |
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Here I am buying SOCOM lowers for $650!
Those are super cool. Much thanks OP for delivering. YTM. (You're the man) |
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FYI pics are up in the other thread. looks like the real deal with a Diemaco upper to boot!
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That is pretty amazing. No doubt about its authenticity. Roll marks look like what they should, the box etc...
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my colt contact told me it was likely a marking mistake and if so. he said , there will be more than these popping up. so dont be a jackass and pay some huge price for one when there may be a hundred of them come up View Quote Now I'm going to run around to all the local gun stores and check 6920 rollmarks. |
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It's strange that there isn't a front sling loop on this rifle or maybe it was removed for some reason. Rod |
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It's strange that there isn't a front sling loop on this rifle or maybe it was removed for some reason. Rod
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IT would make a nice post sample machinegun for a class II Man.
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+1 must be a mistake.. Like those Colts and Armalites with the Auto marked selector area that were available a few years ago View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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my colt contact told me it was likely a marking mistake and if so. he said , there will be more than these popping up. so dont be a jackass and pay some huge price for one when there may be a hundred of them come up +1 must be a mistake.. Like those Colts and Armalites with the Auto marked selector area that were available a few years ago any pictures? |
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Larry Vickers posted photos of the US GOV PROPERTY M4A1 Commando for sale on 8/14/15 on price for the SBR lower is $6000.00
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Larry Vickers posted photos of the US GOV PROPERTY M4A1 Commando for sale on 8/14/15 on price for the SBR lower is $6000.00 http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c55/ChrisV196/ARF%20junk/FB_IMG_1440515141101_zpshzg0nsjw.jpg Where was this posted for sale? |
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Did you open it up the lower maybe it's a AR lower milled to M16 specs? http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f116/mt6551/AR15/ARLower-1.jpg View Quote Interesting, I've never seen that done before. What, if any, is the legality if that? William |
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