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Originally Posted By dyezak:
Man, I'm confused, generally when I think of the -08's and their popularity I think of .308 7mm-08 6.5mm-08 (260REM) 6mm-08 (243WIN) But I don't generally think of 25-08 as it's a pretty oddball caliber. You can't find any factory ammo for these calibers, the and the projectile selection is poor. BUT, if I infer the "I didn't like the hole in the -08 line-up, so I've been working on a 25-08 to fill in the gap and satisfy my OCD requirements..." that leads me to think all the above chamberings are on the way, not just 260REM. View Quote The fact is though 260, and 243 are both going be passed by the creedmor case designs. 6.5 already has and 6 will be shortly. The creedmor cases offer some advantages over the 308 based ones and have been backed up with factory match loads. 243 will live on as a varmint and light deer round. |
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Originally Posted By TeeRex:
I don't think they are going away completely, other than the 25-08 which is pointless and never here to begin with. The fact is though 260, and 243 are both going be passed by the creedmor case designs. 6.5 already has and 6 will be shortly. The creedmor cases offer some advantages over the 308 based ones and have been backed up with factory match loads. 243 will live on as a varmint and light deer round. View Quote This is exactly why Ruger is offering the American and RPR in 6 creedmore now |
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I don't have a tOBR because it is a half solution.
You can can change the barrel to another caliber that isn't available. Because no other calibers are available. So, what's the point of a tOBR? |
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[#5]
Originally Posted By samiam513:
I don't have a tOBR because it is a half solution. You can can change the barrel to another caliber that isn't available. Because no other calibers are available. So, what's the point of a tOBR? View Quote I'm just the opposite I own 5.56 tobrs and 7.62 tobrs and a old fashioned obr.i like the tobr take down ability to travel with and the ability to hide it in plain site in the tool box. sure I think letting out some sparrels in 300 blk and maybe a thumper for the lite and getting the 260 and a 6.5 creedmore,and the 338 federal mark hinted years ago ready for the heavy should be at the top of his list,but reasonably my guess is unless he can partner with a new barrel maker those things are pretty distant wishes as the barrel making he has cooking now likely has to keep running full tilt just to keep up with current demands. if the 25-08 is anything like the other products mark has hinted about I wont get too excited. seems to me mark just likes to stir the pot once and a while. |
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Originally Posted By icecold1:
I'm just the opposite I own 5.56 tobrs and 7.62 tobrs and a old fashioned obr.i like the tobr take down ability to travel with and the ability to hide it in plain site in the tool box. sure I think letting out some sparrels in 300 blk and maybe a thumper for the lite and getting the 260 and a 6.5 creedmore,and the 338 federal mark hinted years ago ready for the heavy should be at the top of his list,but reasonably my guess is unless he can partner with a new barrel maker those things are pretty distant wishes as the barrel making he has cooking now likely has to keep running full tilt just to keep up with current demands. if the 25-08 is anything like the other products mark has hinted about I wont get too excited. seems to me mark just likes to stir the pot once and a while. View Quote I'd love to have sparrels for my 15 tOBR in 5.56, 6x45, and 300blk. I'm waiting for the 260 to get my 10 tOBR, but want 308, 7-08, 260 and 243 in my 10 sparrels. Then I wake up. Then I kick the dirt in an awe shucks manner and go back to the daily grind. |
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[#7]
Originally Posted By samiam513:
I don't have a tOBR because it is a half solution. You can can change the barrel to another caliber that isn't available. Because no other calibers are available. So, what's the point of a tOBR? View Quote I almost wished i had not read this... I have had a tOBR for 3 years now.. and waited over a year for it.. have never thought of selling it till now.. lol I thought.. that would be a good down payment on that AI AXMC I have been lusting after.. i can shoot .300 win, .308, 6.5CM.. and all kinds of things!! |
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Originally Posted By ozzie839:
this guy, he gets it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ozzie839:
Originally Posted By samiam513:
I don't have a tOBR because it is a half solution. You can can change the barrel to another caliber that isn't available. Because no other calibers are available. So, what's the point of a tOBR? this guy, he gets it My mom always did say I was different. I bought the standard OBR because I wanted it from day one when it was introduced as the OSR. As attractive as the barrel interchangeability is, and yes I have LMT MRPs with the same capability, I am trying to consolidate ammo types. 77 |
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Yay...a caliber I've never heard of before to be fired through a barrel I'll never see/be able to buy. OCD??? How bout make a cheek riser for your rat stock, a 300 blkout for your 556 Tobr owners a .260 or 6.5 CM barrel for your 7.62 owners, a flat MBT for those who want it! Where the hell is the Seite? Why did I buy a Tobr? To be able to change calibers! Not put it in a box, I've never taken mine down like that Yes I can get a 16", 18" or 20" 556 bbl but I can't get a LW predatbr 14.5" P&W barrel for it! I was one of the ones that was sent a receiver an waited..waited..waited! In truth that was cool on Marks part "We did't know what was gonna happen, but it required alot of faith/WAITING on our part. No excuse now, you make barrels..NO MORE WAITING! . Finish a project Mark before you start another, sounds more like you have A.D.D!. NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS ROUND! At least I don't.
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Originally Posted By TXTOAST:
Yay...a caliber I've never heard of before to be fired through a barrel I'll never see! OCD??? How bout make a riser for your rat stock, a 300 blkout for your 556 Tober owners a .260 barrel for your 7.62 owners a flat MBT for those who want it! Were the hell is the Seite? Why did I buy a Tober? To be able to change calibers! Not put it in a box! I was one of the ones that was sent a receiver an waited..waited..waited! Finish a project Mark before you start another. NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS ROUND! View Quote How do you really feel? |
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Better
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I FEEL Larue is the best builder/manufacturer of AR rifles/parts I just want to be able to shoot/enjoy them before I die. I've been waiting years to buy a 300 blkout barrel for my Tober, bought a MCX in 300 blkout, put a larue trigger in it, no more need for a Tober barrel in 300 blkout.. for me anyway.
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Originally Posted By samiam513:
I don't have a tOBR because it is a half solution. You can can change the barrel to another caliber that isn't available. Because no other calibers are available. So, what's the point of a tOBR? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TXTOAST:
Yay...a caliber I've never heard of before to be fired through a barrel I'll never see! OCD??? How bout make a riser for your rat stock, a 300 blkout for your 556 Tober owners a .260 barrel for your 7.62 owners a flat MBT for those who want it! Were the hell is the Seite? Why did I buy a Tober? To be able to change calibers! Not put it in a box! I was one of the ones that was sent a receiver an waited..waited..waited! Finish a project Mark before you start another. NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS ROUND! View Quote I love Larue, truly love Larue. I own 4 of their rifles, and numerous thousands worth of other stuff. But I have to agree. This was early 2015: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUBmgRmrkU |
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
So there are places out there that will make different calibers for our tOBR's? What is his contact info? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
I think the barrel extension on the 7.62 is different though isn't it? View Quote there where guys a few years ago that where taking there field grade barrels and scarping them and putting in Bartline barrels using the same gas block tube and barrel extension.. I got a field grade barrel off of gunbroker a few years ago with that plan.... I had emailed GA Precision about doing it for me and got a reply.. let it slip away giving mark some time becase i kind of liked my 14.5 field grade barrel lol got tired of waiting when it looked like .260 was a ways off and 6.5CM may never happen.. (which is what i want) Emailed GA Precision again about it and they said they did not do that anymore.. I was even thinking about starting a thread about this somewhere.. lol |
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Originally Posted By sgwlower:
I love Larue, truly love Larue. I own 4 of their rifles, and numerous thousands worth of other stuff. But I have to agree. This was early 2015: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUBmgRmrkU View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By TXTOAST:
Yay...a caliber I've never heard of before to be fired through a barrel I'll never see! OCD??? How bout make a riser for your rat stock, a 300 blkout for your 556 Tober owners a .260 barrel for your 7.62 owners a flat MBT for those who want it! Were the hell is the Seite? Why did I buy a Tober? To be able to change calibers! Not put it in a box! I was one of the ones that was sent a receiver an waited..waited..waited! Finish a project Mark before you start another. NOBODY CARES ABOUT THIS ROUND! I love Larue, truly love Larue. I own 4 of their rifles, and numerous thousands worth of other stuff. But I have to agree. This was early 2015: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUBmgRmrkU Lets be real... most people that make a "multi caliber gun" never seem to follow throe.. lol ACR, SCAR, MPX (or is that out in 300BLK now?) MPX, took Barret 2 years to get ones for the mrad.. the gun industry seems to be built on lies at shot show or posts on the forums.. lol |
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Originally Posted By Blaster7R:
there where guys a few years ago that where taking there field grade barrels and scarping them and putting in Bartline barrels using the same gas block tube and barrel extension.. I got a field grade barrel off of gunbroker a few years ago with that plan.... I had emailed GA Precision about doing it for me and got a reply.. let it slip away giving mark some time becase i kind of liked my 14.5 field grade barrel lol got tired of waiting when it looked like .260 was a ways off and 6.5CM may never happen.. (which is what i want) Emailed GA Precision again about it and they said they did not do that anymore.. I was even thinking about starting a thread about this somewhere.. lol View Quote I would like to find someone who has the ability to match the barrel extension and get a 6 creed and a 6.5 creed. But even more than that I would prefer a Larue barrel cartridge. |
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I asked the same question several months ago and never got a definite answer. I am willing to by a Proof barrel so I can have a 260 in my tOBR and figured I can wear that barrel out and then maybe get one from Larue. My question was will the BCG from the tOBR work? I was told by Proof that JP bolts work great with their barrels and extensions but heard some noise about JP BCGs not working in Larue uppers. In the end I spent a while on the phone on several occasions with JP and Proof. They both said they knew that people had used Proof barrels and JP BCGs in tOBRs but did not know if there was anything else that had to be done. At this point I think I will go the safe rout and get a JP upper and BCG and a Proof barrel. I am pretty sure the upper will pin onto my tOBR. If anyone has braved this path please inform us about what you did and how it worked...
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Originally Posted By cantbeatphysics:
I asked the same question several months ago and never got a definite answer. I am willing to by a Proof barrel so I can have a 260 in my tOBR and figured I can wear that barrel out and then maybe get one from Larue. My question was will the BCG from the tOBR work? I was told by Proof that JP bolts work great with their barrels and extensions but heard some noise about JP BCGs not working in Larue uppers. In the end I spent a while on the phone on several occasions with JP and Proof. They both said they knew that people had used Proof barrels and JP BCGs in tOBRs but did not know if there was anything else that had to be done. At this point I think I will go the safe rout and get a JP upper and BCG and a Proof barrel. I am pretty sure the upper will pin onto my tOBR. If anyone has braved this path please inform us about what you did and how it worked... View Quote A JP upper will not mate up with a Larue Lower. You will need to find an upper with sr25 geometry. |
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View Quote Missed the bullseye |
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But what do we do if we don't have a field grade barrel to cannibalize?
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
But what do we do if we don't have a field grade barrel to cannibalize? View Quote Buy the nut? |
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View Quote not sure that is the issue, i dont think some other mfg's barrels will work in the 762 system "PredatOBR® Barrels only work with the PredatOBR rifle and require a PredatOBR® Barrel Wrench" |
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Originally Posted By ozzie839:
not sure that is the issue, i dont think some other mfg's barrels will work in the 762 system "PredatOBR® Barrels only work with the PredatOBR rifle and require a PredatOBR® Barrel Wrench" View Quote This. I don't want to buy a barrel I can't use because it won't fit. |
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Originally Posted By Joshpuh:
This. I don't want to buy a barrel I can't use because it won't fit. View Quote I'll say it again, I feel bad for anyone who bought into this system intending to buy multiple caliber setup, what a FUBAR program its been for those that just wanted a 556 or 762 only because of break down features i dont feel bad for you cause you got exactly what you wanted and basically the only thing the tobr can do |
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Originally Posted By ozzie839:
not sure that is the issue, i dont think some other mfg's barrels will work in the 762 system "PredatOBR® Barrels only work with the PredatOBR rifle and require a PredatOBR® Barrel Wrench" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ozzie839:
not sure that is the issue, i dont think some other mfg's barrels will work in the 762 system "PredatOBR® Barrels only work with the PredatOBR rifle and require a PredatOBR® Barrel Wrench" I believe the issue is the barrel extension, its depth and the cuts in the upper mating to the extension. Using a BAT extension won't match the cuts and the depth may be shorter than needed. |
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Originally Posted By ozzie839:
not sure that is the issue, i dont think some other mfg's barrels will work in the 762 system "PredatOBR® Barrels only work with the PredatOBR rifle and require a PredatOBR® Barrel Wrench" View Quote I think that references the thread of the nut because that's in the barrel cartridge verbiage yes? |
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Originally Posted By sea2summit:
I think that references the thread of the nut because that's in the barrel cartridge verbiage yes? View Quote correct my concern would be the whole xtraxn technology, it lives in the chamber but is the BCG designed to work with it in a way that any other barrel simply wouldnt work? |
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Same boat here. Waited a couple years for the guns, then waiting a couple more years for different calibers. In the mean time I've had a couple LRI built 6.5 CM and would like a 6.5CM in the tOBR instead of .260 since that is where the world is going.
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Originally Posted By wompastompa:
Same boat here. Waited a couple years for the guns, then waiting a couple more years for different calibers. In the mean time I've had a couple LRI built 6.5 CM and would like a 6.5CM in the tOBR instead of .260 since that is where the world is going. View Quote even then its possible the 6.5 will be outdated soon as the 6mm creedmore begins to dominate the long range precision and PRS style matches |
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when i get home tonight ill pull a barrel off my dpms and compare it to the field grade barrels i have to see what the differences are.if it is the same i'll attempt to rebuild one of my cheap dpms rifles with a larue barrel if not at least i'll know it is nor a dpms style barrel
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