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Posted: 8/10/2014 2:41:29 PM EDT
Back in Jan I purchased a 14.5 7.62 tOBR to use as a dedicated night rig for executing TX hogs. I run a FLIR RS-64 35mm thermal scope. I spent all last night in recently cut cornfields and there was no shortage of targets. I also run a MiniDVR that records through the Scope while hunting. I will post some of the video when I get it downloaded.
The short little 14.5" 7.62 tOBR is the perfect night rifle. Short enough to run a supressor and still be compact, yet have the punch of the 7.62. I love killing hogs with anything but I prefer the heavier 7.62 round over the 5.56. Eight pork masters of destruction met their end last night via Larue PredatOBR, here are pictures of some of the better sized ones of the bunch. ETA: The FLIR in its Larue mount sits very low to the upper, which works great with the RAT. I have replaced all my RATS with CTR/RISR combos as the rats just are not tight enough for my likes with respect to accuracy and consistency. That said the RAT is perfectly streamlined and snag free for night hunting. ETA:Video and comments about FLIR One thing I will say is that a combination of nightvision and thermal really equalizes the playing field for this type of hog hunting. I use a PVS-14 Omni VII monocular mounted on a Norotos INVG mount. The main tool for hunting like this is a thermal monocular. I use a FLIR LS-64 handheld thermal monocular to scan the area for life. The thermal makes quick work of this. Most of the time with a little experience with the thermal you can identify the type of animal you are seeing by its shape and the way it moves/acts through the monocular and with the RS-64 Thermal scope identification is far easier. The nightvision is then used for stalking and positive identification before making the shot. In this particular area where I was hunting the hogs are virtually all black, I do not recall ever killing or seeing a hog that was not black down there. This makes the hunting fairly easy. Looking across the field you will see hogs and deer both in the videos. Deer are hard to see even close with nightvision, however; hogs, black hogs, can be seen and identified from several hundred yards away with NODS alone without a magnifier. Its interesting to note that, although I am using a suppressor, the hogs all run from the fields at the sound of a shot even hogs 300-400 yards away, however the deer 100 yards away rarely run, they just watch the hogs run and continue eating. I guess they know what is up. I would like to note that the video degradation when transferring the video from the miniDVR to the computer and then again to YouTube is significant. Although the YouTube vids are 1080 they are not remotely close to the image you actually get when looking through the RS-64 thermal scope. The image in real life is simply stunning. ETA: Fixed Youtube embeds |
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That's a mean looking bastard!
The pig looks kind of mean too. |
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There appears to be something wrong with your FLIR, you should send it to me for testing
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Oh how I want to join in on one of these!!
Nice shooting dude! |
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Talk about bacon delivery service... The tub-o-lard in the first vid ran straight to the truck! Doesn't get any better than that!
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Safety,
Can that FLIR scope switch between white hot / black hot? I'm sold. Talked to the FIL and we are gonna get a rig set up some time before the year is out. |
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Quoted: Safety, Can that FLIR scope switch between white hot / black hot? I'm sold. Talked to the FIL and we are gonna get a rig set up some time before the year is out. View Quote The RS-64 scope has multiple settings WH, BH, 4 levels of IA just like the monocular, plus red, sepia, and rainbow or multi color. My wife uses this multi color setting to check her barrel horse for hot spots and lameness. That was one of the selling points when convincing her that WE needed this expensive equine diagnosis tool The scope also has 3 different crosshair designs and 4 colors, red, green, black and white. Both units have an exceptional warranty. I chose FLIR over the competitors due to the fact that FLIR makes the cores and sells them to its competitors to manufacture their units with. Why not buy from the source.
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Watched the vids....
OP delivers BIG time. Great vids. WE need to make sure FLIR pays you a commission on all the units you just sold. Also, great shots on the movers. Tough enough to make hits when they are on the run in daylight. This thread pushed me over the edge. I now have an excuse to get another LT gun to dedicate to thermal. Now....556 or 762 ????? |
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Watched the vids.... OP delivers BIG time. Great vids. WE need to make sure FLIR pays you a commission on all the units you just sold. Also, great shots on the movers. Tough enough to make hits when they are on the run in daylight. This thread pushed me over the edge. I now have an excuse to get another LT gun to dedicate to thermal. Now....556 or 762 ????? View Quote 7.62 for the win! |
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Watched the vids.... OP delivers BIG time. Great vids. WE need to make sure FLIR pays you a commission on all the units you just sold. Also, great shots on the movers. Tough enough to make hits when they are on the run in daylight. This thread pushed me over the edge. I now have an excuse to get another LT gun to dedicate to thermal. Now....556 or 762 ????? 7.62 for the win! Yep, I'm there. Looks like the winner will be a 14.4" tOBR 762 with FLIR onboard. It's ready made for the short Surefire cans. Weight distribution should not be excessively front heavy. I'll wait to order it until AFTER my 18" tOBR 762 arrives. |
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Quoted: Yep, I'm there. Looks like the winner will be a 14.4" tOBR 762 with FLIR onboard. It's ready made for the short Surefire cans. Weight distribution should not be excessively front heavy. I'll wait to order it until AFTER my 18" tOBR 762 arrives. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Watched the vids.... OP delivers BIG time. Great vids. WE need to make sure FLIR pays you a commission on all the units you just sold. Also, great shots on the movers. Tough enough to make hits when they are on the run in daylight. This thread pushed me over the edge. I now have an excuse to get another LT gun to dedicate to thermal. Now....556 or 762 ????? 7.62 for the win! Yep, I'm there. Looks like the winner will be a 14.4" tOBR 762 with FLIR onboard. It's ready made for the short Surefire cans. Weight distribution should not be excessively front heavy. I'll wait to order it until AFTER my 18" tOBR 762 arrives. Thanks everyone for the comments. The running pigs have taken many misses with the FLIR at night over the last few months, however the hit/miss ratio is getting better every outing. Fortunately there is not a shortage of targets for practice. OMD, you could not go wrong with the 14.5" 7.62 tOBR. with a full size SOCOM and the FLIR it balances wonderfully. I can spin the rifle on the sling around to my side or back while stalking and using the monocular without the barrel or suppressor banging around on my legs. Myself I prefer the 7.62 simply because it just kills the big ones better. Of course, as the one of the videos shows, that big boar took a 7.62 at 40 yards, low heart shot and ran like hell, it happens, but less often than with the 5.56. I have killed literally hundreds with the 5.56 also but a lot of times with the 5.56 the hogs just take that round better, running off and having to be located in the dark is time wasted when I should be looking for more targets. JM2C YMMV |
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Nice shooting and hopefully one day I can blast some hogs with my larue! You sure have a target rich environment
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AH64, Yes, the LS-64 handheld monocular has WH/BH and 4 levels or intensities of Insta Alert (IA). The IA shows up red on a WH background for anything alive. The RS-64 scope has multiple settings WH, BH, 4 levels of IA just like the monocular, plus red, sepia, and rainbow or multi color. My wife uses this multi color setting to check her barrel horse for hot spots and lameness. That was one of the selling points when convincing her that WE needed this expensive equine diagnosis tool The scope also has 3 different crosshair designs and 4 colors, red, green, black and white. Both units have an exceptional warranty. I chose FLIR over the competitors due to the fact that FLIR makes the cores and sells them to its competitors to manufacture their units with. Why not buy from the source. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Safety, Can that FLIR scope switch between white hot / black hot? I'm sold. Talked to the FIL and we are gonna get a rig set up some time before the year is out. The RS-64 scope has multiple settings WH, BH, 4 levels of IA just like the monocular, plus red, sepia, and rainbow or multi color. My wife uses this multi color setting to check her barrel horse for hot spots and lameness. That was one of the selling points when convincing her that WE needed this expensive equine diagnosis tool The scope also has 3 different crosshair designs and 4 colors, red, green, black and white. Both units have an exceptional warranty. I chose FLIR over the competitors due to the fact that FLIR makes the cores and sells them to its competitors to manufacture their units with. Why not buy from the source. Thanks for the info! I am a fan of FLIR myself |
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Thanks for posting safetyoff!
You've got the setup that I want! (I'm green with envy...) I've been doing some hog hunting as well and would love to have a FLIR. Maybe someday... For now, I just have to be happy with a monocular and IR laser and 20" 762 OBR... Looking forward to getting a 14.5" 762 tOBR someday. May have to wait a while on the FLIR..... -Rambob |
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Thanks for the info! I am a fan of FLIR myself View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Safety, Can that FLIR scope switch between white hot / black hot? I'm sold. Talked to the FIL and we are gonna get a rig set up some time before the year is out. The RS-64 scope has multiple settings WH, BH, 4 levels of IA just like the monocular, plus red, sepia, and rainbow or multi color. My wife uses this multi color setting to check her barrel horse for hot spots and lameness. That was one of the selling points when convincing her that WE needed this expensive equine diagnosis tool The scope also has 3 different crosshair designs and 4 colors, red, green, black and white. Both units have an exceptional warranty. I chose FLIR over the competitors due to the fact that FLIR makes the cores and sells them to its competitors to manufacture their units with. Why not buy from the source. Thanks for the info! I am a fan of FLIR myself Uh-hunh . Send us a pic when you get a surplus TADS that you can mount on a 4 wheeler ! |
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Quoted: Looks like someone needs a lot of dillo dust View Quote |
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Nice shoot'n. Thanks for the photos and vids. Which Mini DVR are you using with your Flir? I have a RS32 that I need to get a minidvr for and haven't done so yet. Thanks.
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Quoted: Nice shoot'n. Thanks for the photos and vids. Which Mini DVR are you using with your Flir? I have a RS32 that I need to get a minidvr for and haven't done so yet. Thanks. View Quote I am using the UNV mini dv recorder from Ultimate nightvision. @$200 and I am quite happy with it. It has a remote switch that you can setup to turn the recorder on and start recording without touching anything else. You will need to buy the cable they sell with the unit. The FLIR supplied cable will not work. I posted last week that more video was going to be taken this weekend and it was. We shot 8 hogs this last Friday night with some guys doing a show for a wounded soldier charity and got some great video through the FLIR RS-64 of them missing a rather large number of hogs, some would refer to it as a "Shit Ton" of hogs missed. These were the camera guys and sponsors of the charity not the soldiers, I want to be clear on that. To be fair none of these guys had ever used thermal or IR laser before. The thermal is pretty much a no brainer, the IR laser not so much, which I am sure many here know. None of us supplying the equipment did any shooting. We let these fellows use our weapons and EQ as guests. We could have easily taken 20-30 who knows, that night I have no doubts whatsoever. The guys shooting however, got as much experience in one night as they could process with thermal, NV and IR laser. |
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Quoted: Me too, but $6500 for an optic is out of the question at this time.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I really wanna try this Me too, but $6500 for an optic is out of the question at this time.... |
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I am using the UNV mini dv recorder from Ultimate nightvision. @$200 and I am quite happy with it. It has a remote switch that you can setup to turn the recorder on and start recording without touching anything else. You will need to buy the cable they sell with the unit. The FLIR supplied cable will not work. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nice shoot'n. Thanks for the photos and vids. Which Mini DVR are you using with your Flir? I have a RS32 that I need to get a minidvr for and haven't done so yet. Thanks. Thank you, you just saved me a bunch of back and forth, just ordered it from them. |
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Did some hog hunting on Saturday night on the FE Hill ranch in Fairfield TX. I used my GO TO night rig, A Surefire SOCOM suppressed Larue 14.5" tOBR with a FLIR RS-64 35mm thermal scope. LDI SPIR IR illuminator, and LDI CQBL IR/Vis laser. As well as UNV DVR to record all the action. You will notice a blip on the video occasionally when a shot is fired, this is from the video cable connector being loose, working on fixing that. Other EQ used for stalking the night are a dual PVS-14 helmet setup and FLIR LS-64 35mm thermal monocular for scanning and locating animals. Interesting note is that I use a Berger 175 OTM for most hunting. I know it is not a hunting bullet but it performs quite well 95% of the time. Occasionally it does "pencil" through. However this is not an issue if the bullet placement is correct. I rarely get a bullet that does not expand but that said the 2 hogs with one shot in one of the videos below the bullet exited the first animal then exited the skull of a 125 lb sow with what appeared to be no expansion. In the last video as you can see was a quartering shot. The bullet traveled the length of the 175lb boar and made mush of everything inside which is typical, all from bullet fragments not secondary bone fragments like one will see with a shoulder shot. I have to say that the Larue 14.5" tOBR is a night hunting dream. 7.62 power in a compact little package of precision accuracy goodness. I never go hunting without this rig in the truck, it is simply a perfectly balanced little rifle that makes any type of tight CQB hunting or shooting easy. That said the trade off in velocity is not a deal breaker by any means, the little bit of velocity loss is negligible for all types of shooting, including long range. Of course it is not the PERFECT long range tool but it will dang sure do the job if the driver is capable and the need arises. Standard night hunting equipment The hunting was a little slow compared to normal with 4 confirmed kills and 1 not recovered. In the first video 3 hogs were recovered and a 4th hit but not found. The first shot killed two hogs, the smaller hogs shoulder was lined up with the large sows head. The bullet penetrated 60 lb hog and hit the big sow right in the grape. Hit with the second shot and killed the last pig running across the road. Note that the video does not do the actual image justice. It could be me as I am not professional when it comes to transferring video files but the actual image through the FLIR is out of this world, HD is a good description. Apologies for the terrible Iphone pic The last hog we killed a friend that works on the ranch hammered his first thermal pig. The pig ran right into a tree when he disappears from the scope into the brush. That's where he took his final dirt nap. ETA: proper Youtube embed ETA: Edited, brightened, picture wouldn't load...Posted original dark photo. |
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Did some hog hunting on Saturday night on the FE Hill ranch in Fairfield TX. I used my GO TO night rig, A Surefire SOCOM suppressed Larue 14.5" tOBR with a FLIR RS-64 35mm thermal scope. LDI SPIR IR illuminator, and LDI CQBL IR/Vis laser. As well as UNV DVR to record all the action. You will notice a blip on the video occasionally when a shot is fired, this is from the video cable connector being loose, working on fixing that. Other EQ used for stalking the night are a dual PVS-14 helmet setup and FLIR LS-64 35mm thermal monocular for scanning and locating animals. Interesting note is that I use a Berger 175 OTM for most hunting. I know it is not a hunting bullet but it performs quite well 95% of the time. Occasionally it does "pencil" through. However this is not an issue if the bullet placement is correct. I rarely get a bullet that does not expand but that said the 2 hogs with one shot in one of the videos below the bullet exited the first animal then exited the skull of a 125 lb sow with what appeared to be no expansion. In the last video as you can see was a quartering shot. The bullet traveled the length of the 175lb boar and made mush of everything inside which is typical, all from bullet fragments not secondary bone fragments like one will see with a shoulder shot. I have to say that the Larue 14.5" tOBR is a night hunting dream. 7.62 power in a compact little package of precision accuracy goodness. I never go hunting without this rig in the truck, it is simply a perfectly balanced little rifle that makes any type of tight CQB hunting or shooting easy. That said the trade off in velocity is not a deal breaker by any means, the little bit of velocity loss is negligible for all types of shooting, including long range. Of course it is not the PERFECT long range tool but it will dang sure do the job if the driver is capable and the need arises. Standard night hunting equipment <a href="http://s105.photobucket.com/user/mngane/media/DSC_0545_zps80d49908.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/mngane/DSC_0545_zps80d49908.jpg</a> <a href="http://s105.photobucket.com/user/mngane/media/DSC_0551_zpse6281527.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/mngane/DSC_0551_zpse6281527.jpg</a> <a href="http://s105.photobucket.com/user/mngane/media/DSC_0556_zpsd2d70f38.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/mngane/DSC_0556_zpsd2d70f38.jpg</a> <a href="http://s105.photobucket.com/user/mngane/media/DSC_0557_zps9024dd99.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/mngane/DSC_0557_zps9024dd99.jpg</a> <a href="http://s105.photobucket.com/user/mngane/media/DSC_0558_zps9ca62124.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/mngane/DSC_0558_zps9ca62124.jpg</a> <a href="http://s105.photobucket.com/user/mngane/media/DSC_0550_zpse635ea66.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/mngane/DSC_0550_zpse635ea66.jpg</a> The hunting was a little slow compared to normal with 4 confirmed kills and 1 not recovered. In the first video 3 hogs were recovered and a 4th hit but not found. The first shot killed two hogs, the smaller hogs shoulder was lined up with the large sows head. The bullet penetrated 60 lb hog and hit the big sow right in the grape. Hit with the second shot and killed the last pig running across the road. Note that the video does not do the actual image justice. It could be me as I am not professional when it comes to transferring video files but the actual image through the FLIR is out of this world, HD is a good description. http://youtu.be/6B8R26N-8Hg Apologies for the terrible Iphone pic <a href="http://s105.photobucket.com/user/mngane/media/E52DDF06-E6E8-448F-AE7F-3D14C4950446_zpsa0zsawge.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/mngane/E52DDF06-E6E8-448F-AE7F-3D14C4950446_zpsa0zsawge.jpg</a> <a href="http://s105.photobucket.com/user/mngane/media/B2E88A86-BF4A-4D2C-9589-7592B715C9DF_zps1yrq02mk.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/mngane/B2E88A86-BF4A-4D2C-9589-7592B715C9DF_zps1yrq02mk.jpg</a> The last hog we killed a friend that works on the ranch hammered his first thermal pig. The pig ran right into a tree when he disappears from the scope into the brush. That's where he took his final dirt nap. http://youtu.be/WZnlQTAW4Cc <a href="http://s105.photobucket.com/user/mngane/media/C139D8ED-4D03-4CA1-B0B2-6351B2284922_zpspnkgjc3h.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/mngane/C139D8ED-4D03-4CA1-B0B2-6351B2284922_zpspnkgjc3h.jpg</a> View Quote That looks like so much fun!! Very jelly of your gear too |
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Fixed the Youtube thermal video embeds. Thanks for the replies.
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