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Posted: 4/4/2011 9:36:36 AM EDT
Well dang, this post copied below is gonna up and force me to get me a GAP rifle and test it, and then post my accuracy and other findings ... objectively only of course.
" GAP-10 or an OBR ??? " Quoted: GAP Gun Plumber Registered: 03/26/02 Posts: 3123 Loc: N Kansas City, MO Ill speak objectively since im obviously biased on this. I bought an 18" Larue OBR about 2 months ago. I think its a very well build rifle, I love the 2 position gasblock (on/off) like the handguard, like the uper to handguard attachment. Im impressed and will agree its a good rifle. Ive shot it alot the one I have is reliable and has good 1 MOA accuracy or slightly better. Our GAP-10 rifle is essentially offers a very similer platform. the upper to handguard is attached just as ridgid, upper to lower fit is nice. We dont currently have an adjustable gas block but Im working on it. Big differene is the barrel and the way we chamber it. And the fit of the barrel extention to the upper. Bartlein 5R 1-11 match barrels are on all the GAP-10's thats where the serious accuracy comes from and is the most notable difference in the 2 platforms._________________________ George Gardner, G.A. Precision http://www.gaprecision.net That's the second competitor here of late that's mentioned to their online readers that they bought an OBR rifle ... or "recently got our hands on an OBR". Interesting. ML |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 9:40:47 AM EDT
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Well color me purdy..... Surprised that place is still in business.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 9:44:44 AM EDT
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Working for GAP, I trust his unbiased assessment.
ETA: Note, I often employ foxes to guard the hen house as well. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 10:06:41 AM EDT
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You need to send an OBR and GAP rifle to me to test, so it cannot be considered biased.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 10:20:02 AM EDT
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I wonder how many rounds that Bartlein barrel can take. I do know that the GAP is heavier and the damn thing is built on a dying platform
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Posted: 4/4/2011 10:22:06 AM EDT
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I wonder if the GAP can do this with 147 grain DAG surplus ammo? Left target was zeroing the scope.
100 meters 10 shots OBR 18" Accupoint 5 - 20 scope Surefire Brake Magpul PRS stock I really need to get some match ammo and see what this bad boy will do. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 10:24:18 AM EDT
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Interesting. OST for results.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 10:46:11 AM EDT
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So I am suppose to buy an OBR, then send it to GAP for their barrel?
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:07:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:13:20 AM EDT
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All the more reason for me to use my "Leadership Excellence Award" money (If I win, .. find out soon) from Penn State to buy a 20" OBR ..
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:16:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:17:40 AM EDT
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GA Precision builds the best sniper rifles in the world and has been doing so for longer than arfcom has existed...
They are currently building the rifles for FBI HRT... I am as big of a LaRue fan as anyone here...but GA Precision is THE place to go for a sniper rifle. Don't take my word for it, go to any sniper forum and ask who to go to for a rifle that is 100% guarenteed to shoot 3/8 MOA out of the box... I want an OBR and think it is a great semi auto gun but GAP does way more than just build semi auto guns. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:19:31 AM EDT
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Sounds like a pretty good review of your rifle. Its nice to see when someone who is your competitor give praise.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:19:39 AM EDT
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Quoted: GA Precision builds the best sniper rifles in the world and has been doing so for longer than arfcom has existed... They are currently building the rifles for FBI HRT... I am as big of a LaRue fan as anyone here...but GA Precision is THE place to go for a sniper rifle. Don't take my word for it, go to any sniper forum and ask who to go to for a rifle that is 100% guarenteed to shoot 3/8 MOA out of the box... I want an OBR and think it is a great semi auto gun but GAP does way more than just build semi auto guns. But what we are talking about here would be a Semi Auto gun, Larue doesn't build bolt actions. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:22:32 AM EDT
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When you get tired of the GAP 10 feel free to ship it to me for proper disposal. Better yet, just give me a call and I'll come by to pick it up free of charge.
CM |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:25:02 AM EDT
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GA Precision builds the best sniper rifles in the world and has been doing so for longer than arfcom has existed... They are currently building the rifles for FBI HRT... I am as big of a LaRue fan as anyone here...but GA Precision is THE place to go for a sniper rifle. Don't take my word for it, go to any sniper forum and ask who to go to for a rifle that is 100% guarenteed to shoot 3/8 MOA out of the box... I want an OBR and think it is a great semi auto gun but GAP does way more than just build semi auto guns. Apples to Oranges..... |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:33:14 AM EDT
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GA Precision builds the best sniper rifles in the world and has been doing so for longer than arfcom has existed... They are currently building the rifles for FBI HRT... I am as big of a LaRue fan as anyone here...but GA Precision is THE place to go for a sniper rifle. Don't take my word for it, go to any sniper forum and ask who to go to for a rifle that is 100% guarenteed to shoot 3/8 MOA out of the box... I want an OBR and think it is a great semi auto gun but GAP does way more than just build semi auto guns. But what we are talking about here would be a Semi Auto gun, Larue doesn't build bolt actions. ^ wut he said ^ |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 11:49:55 AM EDT
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If you want a GAP rifle just make do ARMS mount style trade and I am sure you will collect a pile of them.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 12:29:46 PM EDT
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GA Precision builds the best sniper rifles in the world and has been doing so for longer than arfcom has existed... They are currently building the rifles for FBI HRT... I am as big of a LaRue fan as anyone here...but GA Precision is THE place to go for a sniper rifle. Don't take my word for it, go to any sniper forum and ask who to go to for a rifle that is 100% guarenteed to shoot 3/8 MOA out of the box... I want an OBR and think it is a great semi auto gun but GAP does way more than just build semi auto guns. Apples to Oranges..... Skills from building a precision rifle translate between platforms. Chambering is chambering...machining is machining. I would be careful when comparing anyone to GAP when it comes to building precision weapons. They have proven their abilities for more than a decade and are the benchmark against which other makers are judged. Heck, they make their own action in house... Out of curiosity...does LaRue chamber the OBR barrels themselves in house and fit the barrel extensions? The OBR is the HEAT...but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it is "better" than a GAP rifle. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 1:03:23 PM EDT
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GA Precision builds the best sniper rifles in the world and has been doing so for longer than arfcom has existed... They are currently building the rifles for FBI HRT... I am as big of a LaRue fan as anyone here...but GA Precision is THE place to go for a sniper rifle. Don't take my word for it, go to any sniper forum and ask who to go to for a rifle that is 100% guarenteed to shoot 3/8 MOA out of the box... I want an OBR and think it is a great semi auto gun but GAP does way more than just build semi auto guns. Apples to Oranges..... Skills from building a precision rifle translate between platforms. Chambering is chambering...machining is machining. I would be careful when comparing anyone to GAP when it comes to building precision weapons. They have proven their abilities for more than a decade and are the benchmark against which other makers are judged. Heck, they make their own action in house... Out of curiosity...does LaRue chamber the OBR barrels themselves in house and fit the barrel extensions? The OBR is the HEAT...but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it is "better" than a GAP rifle. same could be said about GAP... come to think of it... they don't even make their uppers and lowers in house. They take them, including handguards, from POF. As far as the chambers and barrel extensions they can answer that. Hell, I think most of what GAP uses is machined and done outside. Granted, they make their barrels, but if i recall LaRue makes just about every damn thing, barrel aside from LW and trigger from Geiselle, in house. Perhaps the barrels are the same but it goes to show a whole lot more goes into one of the 308 ARs than just a barrel. JUST IN from Bartlein themselves. Their barrels last roughly 5000 rounds match accuracy. If you're shooting at multiple targets and need rapid engagement, they say their barrels are less. Depending on the wear, you're looking at 3000-5000. LW-50's in house put out 10K rounds warrantied. I thought that was an interesting tidbit. So they chamber them, god forbid I have to get that barrel replaced just over a year's life. Sheesh. That being said, I could build a typical 5.56 AR using a wilson combat barrel, some other parts, find two receivers that fit relatively good, cerakote it, and it'll probably shoot fantastic. The question is, can it be abused? I'll take my chances with my 18" OBR if accuracy and abuse play factors. It shoots just over 1/2 in at 100 yds and hasn't failed me yet. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 1:17:27 PM EDT
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Tag for the range report.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 1:21:30 PM EDT
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GA Precision builds the best sniper rifles in the world and has been doing so for longer than arfcom has existed... They are currently building the rifles for FBI HRT... I am as big of a LaRue fan as anyone here...but GA Precision is THE place to go for a sniper rifle. Don't take my word for it, go to any sniper forum and ask who to go to for a rifle that is 100% guarenteed to shoot 3/8 MOA out of the box... I want an OBR and think it is a great semi auto gun but GAP does way more than just build semi auto guns. I would disagree with that blanket statement. They build a real good precision rifle. So does APA. APA costs a bit more, but are worth it in my opinion. There are literally TONS of great rifle builders. GAP is just one of the better known ones. To get the best, if such a thing is possible, you would do well looking at smaller 'smiths who build them one at a time, by one guy. ETA- ML you should build a bolt rifle I would buy one. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 1:33:10 PM EDT
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tag for the follow up.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 1:39:23 PM EDT
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Skills from building a precision rifle translate between platforms. Chambering is chambering...machining is machining. I would be careful when comparing anyone to GAP when it comes to building precision weapons. They have proven their abilities for more than a decade and are the benchmark against which other makers are judged. Heck, they make their own action in house... According to George and the GA Precision website - Defiance Machine makes his actions. George and Co make some really nice rifles - but there are lots of very good rifle builders out there - Dave Tooley, Jered Joplin (APA), Robert Gradous, Terry Cross, William Roscoe, and many others. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 1:47:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: GA Precision builds the best sniper rifles in the world and has been doing so for longer than arfcom has existed... They are currently building the rifles for FBI HRT... I am as big of a LaRue fan as anyone here...but GA Precision is THE place to go for a sniper rifle. Don't take my word for it, go to any sniper forum and ask who to go to for a rifle that is 100% guarenteed to shoot 3/8 MOA out of the box... I want an OBR and think it is a great semi auto gun but GAP does way more than just build semi auto guns. Apples to Oranges..... Skills from building a precision rifle translate between platforms. Chambering is chambering...machining is machining. I would be careful when comparing anyone to GAP when it comes to building precision weapons. They have proven their abilities for more than a decade and are the benchmark against which other makers are judged. Heck, they make their own action in house... Out of curiosity...does LaRue chamber the OBR barrels themselves in house and fit the barrel extensions? The OBR is the HEAT...but I wouldn't go so far as to say that it is "better" than a GAP rifle. same could be said about GAP... come to think of it... they don't even make their uppers and lowers in house. They take them, including handguards, from POF. As far as the chambers and barrel extensions they can answer that. Hell, I think most of what GAP uses is machined and done outside. Granted, they make their barrels, but if i recall LaRue makes just about every damn thing, barrel aside from LW and trigger from Geiselle, in house. Perhaps the barrels are the same but it goes to show a whole lot more goes into one of the 308 ARs than just a barrel. JUST IN from Bartlein themselves. Their barrels last roughly 5000 rounds match accuracy. If you're shooting at multiple targets and need rapid engagement, they say their barrels are less. Depending on the wear, you're looking at 3000-5000. LW-50's in house put out 10K rounds warrantied. I thought that was an interesting tidbit. So they chamber them, god forbid I have to get that barrel replaced just over a year's life. Sheesh. That being said, I could build a typical 5.56 AR using a wilson combat barrel, some other parts, find two receivers that fit relatively good, cerakote it, and it'll probably shoot fantastic. The question is, can it be abused? I'll take my chances with my 18" OBR if accuracy and abuse play factors. It shoots just over 1/2 in at 100 yds and hasn't failed me yet. While I'd love a gap bolt gun, I'm not a fan of buying a compilation of parts put together at a premium when I'm more than capable to slap together the same thing. I bought the OBR because I wanted a turn key system that is unavailable anywhere else. I say GAP and other classic bolt gun shops do excellent work and then some, but for some things such as AR based guns, I'm going for either a home build or something that can't be home built. I'm not paying anyone to crank a barrel nut on a barrel I coulda bought myself onto a receiver I coulda bought myself to make a package I coulda built myself for less. Larue 5.56 uppers are basically sold at cost of parts, so I wouldn't hesitate to get one. Their proprietary OBRs and the like are one of a kinds, so that be that. If they offered a kit, I'd probably buy one. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 6:39:49 PM EDT
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I wonder if the GAP can do this with 147 grain DAG surplus ammo? Left target was zeroing the scope. http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=28088 100 meters 10 shots OBR 18" Accupoint 5 - 20 scope Surefire Brake Magpul PRS stock I really need to get some match ammo and see what this bad boy will do. Probably. So will a handful other Semi .308s out there. Nice group though! |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 8:49:54 PM EDT
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Now, Mark, don't get crossways with GAP. They make good stuff, too. I just like your stuff better.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 8:55:40 PM EDT
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Holy Cow, I own a page! Still don't know how to do that on purpose...
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Posted: 4/4/2011 9:13:59 PM EDT
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I don't really see GAP attacking or calling out or really even trying to cross LaRue. Don't even really see why this thread was necessary.
I LOVE LaRue tactical, and the OBR is an amazing rifle. But why is it that because LaRue makes a very very good 7.62mm SA Rifle, no one else can? I mean really, if you had to go out and find a company to make a rifle that could go up against the OBR, you'd probably end up going with GAP or they'd come in a real close second. No need to attack GAP, all they did was compare their product to LaRue's and state the differences. Shit, they even compliment the OBR. Whatever happened to product competition being a good thing? |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 9:18:30 PM EDT
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Quoted: Well color me purdy..... Surprised that place is still in business. That place is still in business because they have a very good reputation for being the one of the best sniper rifle builders out there. They are still in business because they have big boy contracts with big boy companies that know they make a good product. Essentially, they are 'still in business' for the same reason LaRue is. They make a great product. Just because a company compares one of their offerings to a LaRue offering, doesn't mean they are a shit hole, useless, trolling, terrible good for nothing company.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 9:42:33 PM EDT
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Two very fine rifles, probably capable of either one winning a face off depending upon the driver and the day and the barometric pressure at the moment the trigger is pulled. There are a couple of other makes of autoloaders that might well survive against the two named, but it is rarified atmosphere indeed. Either one will excell at its' mission, which is to dispatch bad guys at long range with extreme prejudice time after time. Revel in your accomplishments. I chose the OBR because I believe that it is best suited for what I plan to do with it and it has features I prefer. Others chose GAP for exactly the same reasons.
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Posted: 4/4/2011 9:45:14 PM EDT
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well if GAP feels threatened, it means good for Larue OBR ;)
I own a GAP bolt action rifle but my semi auto .308 will be a Larue. |
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Posted: 4/4/2011 9:57:46 PM EDT
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.679" in a snow storm the other day... I'm happy with my OBR's. So much so, I'm gonna get a third as soon as I can.
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Posted: 4/5/2011 9:06:19 AM EDT
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.679" in a snow storm the other day... I'm happy with my OBR's. So much so, I'm gonna get a third as soon as I can. I envy and hate you at the same time 
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Posted: 4/5/2011 10:21:39 AM EDT
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The guy may build a decent rifle but his spelling, punctuation and sentence structure is atrocious. While it may be trivial, this does not present a good first impression of a company I've never heard of until now. If I were in the market for a high end precision rifle, this lack of basic grammatical skills damages their image (in my mind) before I've even looked at their rifle specs.
With Mark, there is never an incorrectly spelled word or garbled grammar in his posts or on his website. Examples highlighted in red below: " GAP-10 or an OBR ??? " Quoted: GAP Gun Plumber Registered: 03/26/02 Posts: 3123 Loc: N Kansas City, MO Ill speak objectively since im obviously biased on this. I bought an 18" Larue OBR about 2 months ago. I think its a very well build rifle, I love the 2 position gasblock (on/off) like the handguard, like the uper to handguard attachment. Im impressed and will agree its a good rifle. Ive shot it alot the one I have is reliable and has good 1 MOA accuracy or slightly better. Our GAP-10 rifle is essentially offers a very similer platform. the upper to handguard is attached just as ridgid, upper to lower fit is nice. We dont currently have an adjustable gas block but Im working on it. Big differene is the barrel and the way we chamber it. And the fit of the barrel extention to the upper. Bartlein 5R 1-11 match barrels are on all the GAP-10's thats where the serious accuracy comes from and is the most notable difference in the 2 platforms._________________________ George Gardner, G.A. Precision http://www.gaprecision.net And from their webpage detailing their "Templar Action" http://www.gaprecision.net/ga-precision-2011-custom-rifles/ga-precision-g.a.-precision-gap-10-.html "The Templar Action Evolved. Through years of input from the industries best shooters, gunsmiths and engineers..." Again, it might be a great rifle but marketing these days is as much about the fine details of the presentation as having a great product. You will never read anything like this written by Mark LaRue. Attention to detail. |
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Posted: 4/5/2011 10:45:26 AM EDT
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Well color me purdy..... Surprised that place is still in business. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 
They produce incredible rifles, some of the best bolt actions anywhere. They also have a good semi, as does Larue. This whole thread does nothing for either company. I would have thought Larue was a classy enough company to not try to drag up some sort of fight where one does not exist. |
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Posted: 4/5/2011 10:56:21 AM EDT
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Well color me purdy..... Surprised that place is still in business. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
They produce incredible rifles, some of the best bolt actions anywhere. They also have a good semi, as does Larue. This whole thread does nothing for either company. I would have thought Larue was a classy enough company to not try to drag up some sort of fight where one does not exist. Actually he just said he was going to get one to test objectively :P |
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Posted: 4/5/2011 11:07:02 AM EDT
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Once you get to a certain level, gun choice comes down to personal preference.
For 3-Gun, do you go with a JP or a Stealth or MSTN? For Precision autos, OBR, GAP, JP, KAC? For bolt guns, GAP, APA, AI, Greg Tannel, Speedy Gonzales, Desert Tactical? Best advice is to pick one and practice, let other folks figure out how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. |
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Posted: 4/5/2011 11:08:10 AM EDT
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Good grammar does not a master gunsmith make.
I've had a lot of work done by G-A, and have met with and spoken to several of the guys there over the years. They have been around for a dozen years and have well-earned respect in the long-range precision community. They do some of the best rifle work in the country. G-A has been called upon to assist the USMC with their M40's, and FN has contracted them to bed their bolt guns, and have built guns for FBI, ATF, etc. My old sniper team partner has a GAP Rock, and it's still a laser even after bouncing around in a squad car for over 10 years, and approaching 5,000rds. Isn't it good to have choices to drive competition and keep the prices reasonable? I thought that's what our free market system is all about. As a firearms community we need to pull together rather than picking each other apart because someone doesn't necessarily subscribe to our current philosophy or engage in quite the same discipline. There are many ways to skin a cat. There is some angst over at Sniper's Hide about LaRue for some reason. I haven't followed that mess but just like over here, each camp gets a following and there's grousing back and forth, which is fine; it's what drives our competitive spirit. This has the tendency to deteriorate into immature pissing matches, however, and does nothing for the reputation of our sport and the companies who supply us with our toys. There was nothing out-of-line about Mark's post. Other companies have taken notice that the OBR is breaking onto the scene big-time, and they are going to see what the OBR offers. Bring on the competition! I want to see side-by-side reviews, and look forward to watching the industry drive itself to making better rifles to sell us. Some of the replies to the OP have been a little however, and we need to keep in mind that we are all in this together.
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Posted: 4/5/2011 12:57:58 PM EDT
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Good grammar does not a master gunsmith make.
I've had a lot of work done by G-A, and have met with and spoken to several of the guys there over the years. They have been around for a dozen years and have well-earned respect in the long-range precision community. They do some of the best rifle work in the country. G-A has been called upon to assist the USMC with their M40's, and FN has contracted them to bed their bolt guns, and have built guns for FBI, ATF, etc. My old sniper team partner has a GAP Rock, and it's still a laser even after bouncing around in a squad car for over 10 years, and approaching 5,000rds. Isn't it good to have choices to drive competition and keep the prices reasonable? I thought that's what our free market system is all about. As a firearms community we need to pull together rather than picking each other apart because someone doesn't necessarily subscribe to our current philosophy or engage in quite the same discipline. There are many ways to skin a cat. There is some angst over at Sniper's Hide about LaRue for some reason. I haven't followed that mess but just like over here, each camp gets a following and there's grousing back and forth, which is fine; it's what drives our competitive spirit. This has the tendency to deteriorate into immature pissing matches, however, and does nothing for the reputation of our sport and the companies who supply us with our toys. There was nothing out-of-line about Mark's post. Other companies have taken notice that the OBR is breaking onto the scene big-time, and they are going to see what the OBR offers. Bring on the competition! I want to see side-by-side reviews, and look forward to watching the industry drive itself to making better rifles to sell us. Some of the replies to the OP have been a little however, and we need to keep in mind that we are all in this together.
[/soapbox] I am completely bugged about one thing - My front line sales guys didn't catch onto the name George Gardner, letting that rifle get out our door silently, without uber-cool custom engraving I would've no doubt done had I known George wanted one. Because of some industry rumors, he'd of thought I sent a ringer, instead of just the next one off the line, which is exactly what everybody gets - the next one off the line. Moral of that story - The front line guys need to stay off those dang 1911 forums and pay closer attention - situational awareness.
ML ETA - as for spelling, I sneak in quite a few ediits. Oops, dang it, there's another.
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Posted: 4/5/2011 1:36:57 PM EDT
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Uh-oh, this thread just got sucked into the "Please, Mark, make that 1911!" vortex! Mark, you should never, ever mention the number series, "1911." Unless, of course, it means you are about to make one? Dang it, here we go!
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Posted: 4/5/2011 2:20:16 PM EDT
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I am completely bugged about one thing - My front line sales guys didn't catch onto the name George Gardner, letting that rifle get out our door silently, without uber-cool custom engraving I would've no doubt done had I known George wanted one. I can just see it now. "GAP KILLER" engraved into the side of the receiver.
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Posted: 4/5/2011 4:52:30 PM EDT
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Uh-oh, this thread just got sucked into the "Please, Mark, make that 1911!" vortex! Mark, you should never, ever mention the number series, "1911." Unless, of course, it means you are about to make one? Dang it, here we go! HUH?? Mark is making a 1911????
Seriously though, after all the good I have seen about the OBR and the GAP, I'm sure you couldn't do too much wrong with either. But the OBR does have that special "LaRue" touch. And that folks, is how you make a waffling, neutral , fence riding comment.
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Posted: 4/5/2011 7:08:09 PM EDT
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Uh-oh, this thread just got sucked into the "Please, Mark, make that 1911!" vortex! Mark, you should never, ever mention the number series, "1911." Unless, of course, it means you are about to make one? Dang it, here we go! HUH?? Mark is making a 1911????
Larue 1911!?!?! Mark, when I win the UHFO contest this month, can I get the 1911 instead?
In all seriousness, I have dreamed about getting a GAP rifle someday. I've also been dreaming of getting an OBR. I've figured if I want a bolt, I will call GAP, if I want an auto, I will call Larue. |
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Posted: 4/11/2011 11:56:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/25/2011 9:16:20 AM EDT
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I'd totally buy a Larue 1911...
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Posted: 4/25/2011 10:38:38 AM EDT
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<meta charset="utf-8"></meta> Quoted: Two very fine rifles, probably capable of either one winning a face off depending upon the driver and the day and the barometric pressure at the moment the trigger is pulled. There are a couple of other makes of autoloaders that might well survive against the two named, but it is rarified atmosphere indeed. Either one will excell at its' mission, which is to dispatch bad guys at long range with extreme prejudice time after time. Revel in your accomplishments. I chose the OBR because I believe that it is best suited for what I plan to do with it and it has features I prefer. Others chose GAP for exactly the same reasons. This...and I've owned both...at the same time. My GAP AR-10 had a slight accuracy advantage (both have 18" barrels), but I just sold it because I didn't feel like I could trust the reliability like I can on my OBR. My GAP was built with a DPMS receiver/bolt, so I can't speak to GAP's new build specs. I also run a suppressor so the port selector was something else that tipped the scales in the OBR's favor. I still think both are great rifles.  Oh, what did I buy with the money from my GAP sale? A PredatAR 7.62.  ETA: A LaRue 1911 would round out my collection very nicely, btw. |
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Posted: 4/25/2011 2:56:35 PM EDT
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I'd totally buy a Larue 1911... This. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 9:34:27 AM EDT
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These threads are a scream. I put together a DPMS upper/lower with a Krieger barrel, Geissele trigger, and Daniel Defense rail that shoots .5" groups, and is super reliable with surplus and hand loaded ammo.
The OBR is mega badass for lots of reasons, but not because it's the only way to make an accurate semi-auto .308. |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 1:51:32 PM EDT
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Well dang, this post copied below is gonna up and force me to get me a GAP rifle and test it, and then post my accuracy and other findings ... objectively only of course.
So wil the GAP rifle fit the LaRue target actuator? |
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Posted: 6/17/2011 2:15:51 PM EDT
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Shocking that he thinks his offering is better.
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