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Posted: 5/6/2015 2:37:10 PM EDT
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BCM appears to have went "all in" with keymod. If M-lok becomes the industry standard I'm sure they would start to market it. Personally i wish they had an M-lok offering!!!
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Posted: 5/6/2015 3:22:52 PM EDT
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I hope they never go to m-lok.
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Posted: 5/6/2015 4:23:00 PM EDT
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Great question. I've read a lot of great things about M-LOK for both the customer and the manufacturer. The design seems to be a win-win. It seems to be the better choice. So I've been expecting a lot more manufacturer support for the design.
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Posted: 5/6/2015 9:41:57 PM EDT
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Eric Kincel invented Keymod and now works for BCM.
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Posted: 5/6/2015 9:58:32 PM EDT
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If you like m-lok, go get a m-lok rail or accessory. It's not like the m-lok market is underserved. BCM chose keymod, hired its inventor and offers that pattern in rails and accessories with very appealing qualities (e.g., KMR's weight). Folks, not everything has to be standardized. Competition breeds a better product.
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Posted: 5/6/2015 10:58:40 PM EDT
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If you like m-lok, go get a m-lok rail or accessory. It's not like the m-lok market is underserved. BCM chose keymod, hired its inventor and offers that pattern in rails and accessories with very appealing qualities (e.g., KMR's weight). Folks, not everything has to be standardized. Competition breeds a better product. Nobody said we were asking for anything to be standardized. I was asking what business sense it makes to block yourself from lots of potential customers by only supporting one of two open-source systems. Also, nobody else makes anything else like, or as good as IMO, the KAG. If that was an option I wouldn't have posted this. All of my rails are M-LOK. And bolting on a Picatinny rail in order to use an accessory entirely defeats the purpose of it in the first place. |
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Posted: 5/6/2015 11:16:22 PM EDT
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BCM appears to have went "all in" with keymod. If M-lok becomes the industry standard I'm sure they would start to market it. Personally i wish they had an M-lok offering!!! Maybe Keymod will become the "industry standard" 
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Posted: 5/7/2015 1:49:23 AM EDT
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Maybe Keymod will become the "industry standard" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BCM appears to have went "all in" with keymod. If M-lok becomes the industry standard I'm sure they would start to market it. Personally i wish they had an M-lok offering!!! Maybe Keymod will become the "industry standard" It is as far as I'm concerned, i'll never use anything but keymod from now on. |
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Posted: 5/7/2015 2:51:51 AM EDT
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Maybe someone will come up with a bulky M-LOK to Keymod adapter or vice-versa.
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Posted: 5/7/2015 1:40:14 PM EDT
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I wasn't crazy about keymod!
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Posted: 5/7/2015 5:53:18 PM EDT
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Maybe someone will come up with a bulky M-LOK to Keymod adapter or vice-versa. They already exist, nobody in their right mind wants it, that's why we're begging BCM to make us the components we want the right way instead of giving M-LOK users the bird. |
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Posted: 5/7/2015 11:05:43 PM EDT
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Maybe Keymod will become the "industry standard" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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BCM appears to have went "all in" with keymod. If M-lok becomes the industry standard I'm sure they would start to market it. Personally i wish they had an M-lok offering!!! Maybe Keymod will become the "industry standard" Doubtful. We've had commercial-spec and mil-spec buffer tubes, along with stocks for them, on the market for how long now? |
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Posted: 5/7/2015 11:48:54 PM EDT
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Eric Kincel invented Keymod and now works for BCM. Can we say Bingo? |
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Posted: 5/8/2015 9:13:52 AM EDT
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Oops/
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Posted: 5/8/2015 9:15:52 AM EDT
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I'm still using picatinny rails.... I am looking for a BCM Gunfighter VFG and hand stop locally to compare. If I don't see one today at the range / LGS I will order them. Both of these are made in picatinny versions...
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Posted: 5/9/2015 3:19:42 PM EDT
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I really fail to see the problem. Every type of mount made for mlok is also made for keymod. Pick one and be happy.
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Posted: 5/15/2015 1:35:47 PM EDT
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Eric Kincel invented Keymod and now works for BCM. That's my understanding as well. I actually like the accessory locking rail system that Lantac is working on. M-LOK looks great, but with no Aluminum Magnesium light weight rail option as light as the KMR (that I know of anyways) it really was no contest for me when it came to going with the KMR upper that I purchased. |
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Posted: 5/25/2015 10:41:13 AM EDT
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M Lok has a very strong marketing push behind it with Magpul reps constantly dumping the same stuff in every thread on the forums.
MLok was designed because they couldn't get keymod to work in their plastic handguards. They've actually said this. It probably has better "pullout strength", but I'm not sure how much you need for a light mount and a handstop anyway. If I took a big pry bar to my Scout light on my URX 4, I'm sure I could eventually bust it. But I'd have to WORK at it for awhile. The same could be said for my T1 in a larue mount too. It does not seem to have the repeatability built into keymod (probably not a huge deal). Also you can't put stuff too close the the gas block on some rails or the Mlok screws will hit it and your barrel is no longer free-floated. It does "look better" I guess. I don't see either becoming "industry standard". Something "better" will probably come along before that happens. |
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Posted: 5/26/2015 5:06:08 AM EDT
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This is a non-issue to me. If BCM doesn't offer M-LOK and I want it, I will buy it from someone that does and I did. However, I do feel that I need some good cheese to go with the fine whine in this thread.
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Posted: 5/26/2015 5:12:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/26/2015 12:02:54 PM EDT
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am I the only one that still prefers 1913 rails?
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Posted: 5/27/2015 12:01:39 AM EDT
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You realize that the KMR have a MilStd 1913 rail the full length at 12 o'clock, no?
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Posted: 5/27/2015 11:15:10 AM EDT
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You realize that the KMR have a MilStd 1913 rail the full length at 12 o'clock, no? You know, I've had a kmr for a year and I would have never guessed that's what that was on top had you not said something... My comment was that I perfer the easy mounting of full 1913 rails. I can live with the extra weight. No need to buy special parts/ or adapters to mount m-lok, key mod or anything else. |
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Posted: 6/2/2015 6:31:10 PM EDT
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Roger, copy.
Not necessarily directed at you though, but you didn't specify what you meant. Quad rails were a big improvement in the 1990's, and the MilStd1913 gave us the ability to include mission essential equipment. We evolve though, and reducing the weight of the rail pays off in spades for some. As I grow older, I appreciate the lighter weight...:) |
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