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Posted: 3/16/2015 12:19:51 AM EDT
I'm a prior service Marine now serving in the National Guard. Dress blues were much easier to set up than these damned ASU's. The Army sure likes to stick a lot of stuff on their uniforms. Anyways, in the Marine Corps I was a 1391 Bulk Fuel Specialist. I enlisted in the Army as a 15T and I'm currently in an aviation regiment. I have not been sent to school to reclass yet. I would assume that means I retain the MOS of 92F until I reclass? If that is the case I would then wear the Quartermaster insignia, correct? Would I also wear the Quartermaster regimental crest, the one that goes above the nameplate and/or unit awards? As far as unit awards go, would my unit awards from the Marine Corps be worn on the right side, or would they stay in my current ribbon rack? Marines only wear unit awards on the right side when wearing medals, not ribbons. And my final question ,do I rate the Army Service Ribbon, the rainbow one? I'm technically MOS qualified as a 92F, which if I remember what I read it is awarded upon completion of AIT.

I already have my overseas stripes, service stripes, chevrons, unit crests, and everything else. Its the awards that have me stumped/confused. Thanks in advance guys.
Link Posted: 3/16/2015 11:25:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Ask you platoon sgt.
Link Posted: 3/16/2015 11:42:47 AM EDT
[#2]
AR 670-1 will have the answers you need.  I recall there was a section that had info on what the Army will allow for USMC ribbons.  If I recall, many transferred over.

I was in the TXNG for nearly three years.  In that time there was zero need for me to wear the ASUs and I did not ever plan on purchasing them.  YMMV
Link Posted: 3/16/2015 3:32:30 PM EDT
[#3]
If you have orders in your IPERMS awarding you a MOS in the Army, you are MOS qualified and rate the Gay Pride Ribbon.

I jumped from the Corps as a 0311/1371/0411, but since I went to a 88M spot I was coded as a 09-something until I finished 88M reclass.  I have 11B carried as a secondary MOS but since the engineer and logistics schoolhouses of the respective services don't play well together the other two MOS's haven't carried over and don't show up in my IPERMS.
Link Posted: 3/16/2015 8:58:32 PM EDT
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I'm a prior service Marine now serving in the National Guard. Dress blues were much easier to set up than these damned ASU's. The Army sure likes to stick a lot of stuff on their uniforms. Anyways, in the Marine Corps I was a 1391 Bulk Fuel Specialist. I enlisted in the Army as a 15T and I'm currently in an aviation regiment. I have not been sent to school to reclass yet. I would assume that means I retain the MOS of 92F until I reclass? If that is the case I would then wear the Quartermaster insignia, correct? Would I also wear the Quartermaster regimental crest, the one that goes above the nameplate and/or unit awards? As far as unit awards go, would my unit awards from the Marine Corps be worn on the right side, or would they stay in my current ribbon rack? Marines only wear unit awards on the right side when wearing medals, not ribbons. And my final question ,do I rate the Army Service Ribbon, the rainbow one? I'm technically MOS qualified as a 92F, which if I remember what I read it is awarded upon completion of AIT.

I already have my overseas stripes, service stripes, chevrons, unit crests, and everything else. Its the awards that have me stumped/confused. Thanks in advance guys.
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Huh?
Link Posted: 3/16/2015 11:40:14 PM EDT
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Unit awards such as MUC, NUC, and PUC, are only worn above the right breast pocket when wearing Dress Blue Alphas. That goes for any ribbons without a corresponding medal i.e. sea service deployment, drill instructor, combat action ribbon, marine security guard, etc.

Army unit awards are always worn above the right breast pocket. I was asking if the unit awards I earned while in the USMC would move to the right side, or remain with my other awards. I was unsure if only Army unit awards were worn on the wearer's right side.
Link Posted: 3/16/2015 11:41:33 PM EDT
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If you have orders in your IPERMS awarding you a MOS in the Army, you are MOS qualified and rate the Gay Pride Ribbon.

I jumped from the Corps as a 0311/1371/0411, but since I went to a 88M spot I was coded as a 09-something until I finished 88M reclass.  I have 11B carried as a secondary MOS but since the engineer and logistics schoolhouses of the respective services don't play well together the other two MOS's haven't carried over and don't show up in my IPERMS.
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Yeah now that you mention it, I think that is what they have me as...
Link Posted: 3/19/2015 11:38:56 AM EDT
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I'm a prior service Marine now serving in the National Guard. Dress blues were much easier to set up than these damned ASU's. The Army sure likes to stick a lot of stuff on their uniforms. Anyways, in the Marine Corps I was a 1391 Bulk Fuel Specialist. I enlisted in the Army as a 15T and I'm currently in an aviation regiment. I have not been sent to school to reclass yet. I would assume that means I retain the MOS of 92F until I reclass? If that is the case I would then wear the Quartermaster insignia, correct? Would I also wear the Quartermaster regimental crest, the one that goes above the nameplate and/or unit awards? As far as unit awards go, would my unit awards from the Marine Corps be worn on the right side, or would they stay in my current ribbon rack? Marines only wear unit awards on the right side when wearing medals, not ribbons. And my final question ,do I rate the Army Service Ribbon, the rainbow one? I'm technically MOS qualified as a 92F, which if I remember what I read it is awarded upon completion of AIT.

I already have my overseas stripes, service stripes, chevrons, unit crests, and everything else. Its the awards that have me stumped/confused. Thanks in advance guys.
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When do you go to AIT? I'm 15U and in the guard.
Link Posted: 3/19/2015 12:19:22 PM EDT
[#8]
No idea when I'm reclassing. I'm over slotted as a 15T and the state is broke anyway. I'm thinking about trying to get in to a different MOS, but even then I don't know if I'll be able to go to school.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 2:03:20 PM EDT
[#9]
Wow, lots of quesions in there.
1) You retain the MOS that you are trained in, until you go to school.
2) You wear the aviation affiliation and unit insignia, because that is where you are ASSIGNED.
3) The crest above your name tape is actually chosen by YOU on a 4187. In some Units, they assign everyone in their command the Unit affiliation that they are in. For example, if you are 101st Airborne, they change everyone's affliiation to that Unit. But ultimately, its YOUR choice, and you do not have to have one if you do not wish.
4) Your Marine awards would be worn on the same ribbon rack as your Army awards, however I do not know which ones you are allowed to wear.
5) You should have been awarded the Army SVC ribbon, look in your IPERMS file and see if its in there, if not contact your Unit's S-1 and ask about it.

Hope this helps.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 5:38:01 PM EDT
[#10]
Can the rgmt affilliation be a USMC regiment that he served in?
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 8:03:16 PM EDT
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I would say no.

21–23. Regimental Distinctive Insignia
a. Authorization. RDI of a design approved by TIOH are authorized and prescribed for wear by all Soldiers
affiliated with a regiment or whole-corps regiment (based on a Soldier’s branch/corps/special branch, as determined by
PMOS or specialty).
b. How worn. See DA Pam 670-1.

However(comma) the previous paragraph lists "(21) Other."  While I don't think you can connect TIOH, a DUI, or "Other" with another service, a well thought out question in the existing thread on S1NET might get some other opinions by smart people.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 8:10:36 PM EDT
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I would say no.

21–23. Regimental Distinctive Insignia
a. Authorization. RDI of a design approved by TIOH are authorized and prescribed for wear by all Soldiers
affiliated with a regiment or whole-corps regiment (based on a Soldier’s branch/corps/special branch, as determined by
PMOS or specialty).
b. How worn. See DA Pam 670-1.

However(comma) the previous paragraph lists "(21) Other."  While I don't think you can connect TIOH, a DUI, or "Other" with another service, a well thought out question in the existing thread on S1NET might get some other opinions by smart people.
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I would say no.

21–23. Regimental Distinctive Insignia
a. Authorization. RDI of a design approved by TIOH are authorized and prescribed for wear by all Soldiers
affiliated with a regiment or whole-corps regiment (based on a Soldier’s branch/corps/special branch, as determined by
PMOS or specialty).
b. How worn. See DA Pam 670-1.

However(comma) the previous paragraph lists "(21) Other."  While I don't think you can connect TIOH, a DUI, or "Other" with another service, a well thought out question in the existing thread on S1NET might get some other opinions by smart people.

Thanks. Good to know.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 8:21:05 PM EDT
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3) The crest above your name tape is actually chosen by YOU on a 4187. In some Units, they assign everyone in their command the Unit affiliation that they are in. For example, if you are 101st Airborne, they change everyone's affliiation to that Unit. But ultimately, its YOUR choice, and you do not have to have one if you do not wish.
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No longer.  AR 600-82 was superseded by  AR and DA Pam 670-1.

Regimental affiliation has been blanked out on ERBs and will soon be blanked out on ORBs(if they haven't already.  The DUI you wear as an RDI will be a unit you have served in previously, the DUI which represent your branch(for the support type MOSs), or nothing.  In order to affiliate with a unit, you have to have served(read-be assigned to) that regiment.  

Also changed is the requirement for some non combat arms to affiliate with their specific branch.  For example if a 42A currently assigned to 3-509PIR, but previously assigned to 1-504PIR wants to wear a 504th RDI over the AG or 509th RDI he can.

There is a large(for there) conversation on S1NET about it.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 8:30:14 PM EDT
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Unit awards such as MUC, NUC, and PUC, are only worn above the right breast pocket when wearing Dress Blue Alphas. That goes for any ribbons without a corresponding medal i.e. sea service deployment, drill instructor, combat action ribbon, marine security guard, etc.

Army unit awards are always worn above the right breast pocket. I was asking if the unit awards I earned while in the USMC would move to the right side, or remain with my other awards. I was unsure if only Army unit awards were worn on the wearer's right side.
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You'll wear your unit awards Army-style.  Most of your ribbons will transfer over.  About the only ones that don't, IIRC, are the recruiter/DI/MSG ribbons.  This can turn you into a Nork General.  You deploy and get a Army GCM?  You'll have two GCM ribbons....  deploy?  Two overseas service ribbons...Got a NAM?  Get an AAM and its two ribbons not just a star.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 8:31:38 PM EDT
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One thing I miss from USMC uniforms is the preset holes for collar insignia.  Collar insignia are a pain on the Army uniform.
Link Posted: 3/25/2015 8:45:37 PM EDT
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Unit awards such as MUC, NUC, and PUC, are only worn above the right breast pocket when wearing Dress Blue Alphas. That goes for any ribbons without a corresponding medal i.e. sea service deployment, drill instructor, combat action ribbon, marine security guard, etc.

Army unit awards are always worn above the right breast pocket. I was asking if the unit awards I earned while in the USMC would move to the right side, or remain with my other awards. I was unsure if only Army unit awards were worn on the wearer's right side.
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I have those. Be warned, they're a pain in the ass to get to fit onto an army rack together if you get the wrong one and your army unit awards have the damned border on them. Fucking border is pretty thick so get a rack that has extra spacing. I remember thinking what a retarded fucking problem that was to have.
Link Posted: 4/1/2015 10:33:37 PM EDT
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Wow, hadn't checked this thread in a while. Thanks for all of the replies gents. I talked to my platoon sergeant today, and he's checking on what I need to be wearing. When I switched over, the Army assigned me the MOS of 09U. This would probably be much easier if they would have just left it as 92F until I can reclass.
Link Posted: 4/2/2015 4:04:07 PM EDT
[#18]
FDC - Good to know. I will look that up.
Link Posted: 4/3/2015 8:37:03 PM EDT
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09U means you're not qualified in any MOS. I'd say your uniform should therefore be set up like an IET soldier's; no regimental insignia and dual US discs on the collar. The ASR is awarded on completion of IET or 4 months of active service for "enlisted soldiers assigned a MOS based on civilian or other service acquired skills" so you don't rate that.
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