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'Give a couple of warnings/orders to cease their pugalistic ways... if they don't... "squirt".
Hopefully by then your backup is present and you can intervene once one guy starts to lose.

Stepping in to break up a fight on your own is just stupid.

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Wow, in crook county sheriffs dept jail. (shitcago) sheriff tom dart gives criminals yoga classes, chess matches, hair salon outings for trannys, nitendo wii, microwaves, ice, liver transplants, dermetologists, guitar lessons, basketball tournaments, cable tv.

we dont get shit, no tazers, no vest, no OC, no batons.

So what I do is nothing...just tell them "If your gonna argue do something or shut the fuck up. I aint gonna stop you's from fighthing, im gonna wait until your tired and throw your ass in seg".  that shit always works they just shut up and stop arguing.

when I worked in super max we never go in unless we have enough staff, and that usually took a while due to always being short staffed.  I learned my lesson the hard way.  we have so much polictical corruption that our brass never worked or had experience working around inmates.  one of our unexperienced sgts decided to walk into a tier with 60 super max inmates squaring off.... it was only 5 of us.  The sgt walked in so we werent going to let him go alone.  the five of us suddenly were surrounded by 3/4 of the tier. it was a tier that had an imbalanced number of Folk gang faction.  All the folks surrounded us and we stood our ground.  I stood my ground and not once fell to the floor, I swung at every savage that came to me even though I was getting punched behind the head repeatedly.  I tried standing close to my partner that was on the ground fighting and I felt guilty that I couldnt help him sooner as I had my own battles.

Eventually I had that crazy adrenaline rush where I had tunnel vision and couldnt hear anything just a loud buzz.  Time passed and it was a while before backup arrived.  my black gloves were soaking red (black gloves were illegal because they intimidate inmates) after about 15 minutes of fighting.  Little by little we started getting more officers.  after the 30 minute ritot the floor had a large puddle of blood in the middle of the dayroom and it looked like somebody dragged a big mop from the middle to the exit.... we managed to drag every savage that fought with us out.  we later learned that it was a setup to kill certain officers and one of them was the one that was on the floor by me.  I was a two year rookie then and was already and experienced jail brawler. city and state cops never fight with us at bars because they know they will loose.

 this was when we had control of the largest single site jail in the nation.  now we have this lawyer sheriff who made the jail into a country club and lets savages do whatever they want and arrest officers for defending themselves.  No wonder shicago is murder capitol now.. there are no repercussions... Im sorry if i vented out it just stresses me out that this sheriff puts a front page article about officers calling in this past weekend blaming it on the mayweather fight. he doesnt realize that morale is low.

dont ever rush in or let your coworker rush in, its about going home in one piece.  Call it in and be a good observer.

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city and state cops never fight with us at bars because they know they will loose.

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. city and state cops never fight with us at bars because they know they will loose.
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When I worked in a jail, I worked in booking, which was on the other side of the complex and you were assigned that position. Had about 9 officers on shift, one in each tower, a sgt and a Lt. If there was a fight, depending on which tower, the officer would call code and we would all run to that officer. Never were you allowed to go into a cell block by yourself during a fight.

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I have worked in 2 state prisons and now work on patrol for a municipality. Corrections officers aren't taught a FRACTION of the defensive tactics that road officer learn. Also COs are usually not of the best fitness level (granted there are exceptions to this rule) but for the most part road officers are trained better and in better shape. I don't understand why corrections believe they get into more fights. My whole career in corrections, I was probably in about 10 TRUE knock down drag out fights. I come close to that in 2 pay cycles on the road. Also I don't know any half intelligent grown men who talk about bar brawls consisting of corrections and police officers... This is real life. I cannot comprehend why any of you think the above post or preceeding similar post deserve to be bragged upon or told like it's something to be proud of. Who says this stuff? Do you realize how you sound when telling these tales? Please do upstanding corrections officers a favor and don't brag about how "tough" you guys think you are. In reality we are nothing compared to some out there... You owe your fellow corrections guys an apology because I guarantee some of them are shaking their heads while reading your post.

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Yeah that's what we call ummm... the training that pertains to fighting. I can't recall once when working as a CO we were taught any jui jitsu, chokes, or mounts which are taught to a degree each year,  and offered 3 times weekly to everyone who wants to participate. I bet corrections is still teaching pressure points like the mandubular angle, and wrist locks... A redneck swinging fists while drinking makes most men halfway competent at fighting laugh, as it very well should. This is exactly what these guys are talking about. A bunch of rednecks, throwing haymakers.