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Posted: 6/14/2001 9:47:24 PM EDT
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class 3 dealers have to gte rid of post 86 mgs becouse when there licescne expires and they dont renwe they cant posses those post 86 mgs any more
since a CR cant get u a post 86 Mg u dont have to give up anything when your licsence laps |
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Posted: 6/15/2001 1:52:23 AM EDT
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So if I did get a C&R and bought a 1919 full auto, when I let my license lapse, I still keep the 1919 along with all the other firearms I bought while I had the C&R?
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Posted: 6/15/2001 7:02:32 AM EDT
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Unless your state only allows dealers to own full auto, yes. If you live someplace like Missouri (for one), where only persons with a valid FFL may possess machineguns, then letting your FFL lapse while you owned a machinegun would require that you move that machinegun out of state or sell it before letting your license lapse.
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Posted: 6/15/2001 7:11:54 AM EDT
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Another question.
I just printed out my complete application that I downloaded from cruffler.com. Can I send in an application that is printed on two pages, or should I have the two printed pages photocopied/printed onto one page? |
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Posted: 6/17/2001 1:02:08 AM EDT
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Would be better to maintain your license. You have to send in your bound book when your license is not renewed. And don't use the Excel spreadsheet linked off Cruffler as your book. ATF sent out a letter recently with a bunch of blah, blah, blah and one of the paragraphs stated that each instance of electronic format books had to be approved by the ATF.
Isn't in Adobe format? I shrunk it and printed on one page. |
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Posted: 6/17/2001 3:44:39 AM EDT
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What about a typical class I? I was also thinking of applying for my liscense.
I was mostly going to get it for personal use, ie. buy guns for myself and friends. If it doesn't end up worth it, can I simply transfer all the guns to myself, then let the liscense lapse? Does the ATF care about profit/loss, or would I be in a world of shit if it was found out that I wasn't actually running a real business (although, technically, I guess I would be....)? |
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Posted: 6/17/2001 7:27:20 AM EDT
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Yank --
You can't get a Class I FFL for "personal use." You have to have a retail license and sales tax number and federal tax ID. ATF is very much against "home FFLs" and you may need to show a retail location as well. If you do manage to get one they'll pull it at renewal time if all your purchases are "personal" or for your friends. It's a large PITA unless you're really retailing guns. -- Chuck |
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Posted: 6/19/2001 4:49:57 AM EDT
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C&R FFL holders are not required to send in their bound books to the ATF when the license expires. The C&R license is for collection and doesn't allow an individual to be in the gun business. The ATF just sent out the new Firearms Curios or Relics List form ATF P 5300.11 (3-2001) to all of us C&R guys this week. This publication has all the answers anyone needs about making a decision to become a licensed collector or not.
Wick |
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Posted: 6/20/2001 9:50:52 PM EDT
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Quoted: C&R FFL holders are not required to send in their bound books to the ATF when the license expires. The C&R license is for collection and doesn't allow an individual to be in the gun business. The ATF just sent out the new Firearms Curios or Relics List form ATF P 5300.11 (3-2001) to all of us C&R guys this week. This publication has all the answers anyone needs about making a decision to become a licensed collector or not. Wick Thanks for the info Wick. I ass-U-Med that they wanted our books too. Problem with the publication they sent us is that we already have the license .... |
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Posted: 6/20/2001 11:37:38 PM EDT
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Keep in mind that C+R license don't do much for you.
Allows you to order C+R guns only out of state. Unless you bought an original WW2 1919 it would do nothing for you. Can only order C+R machineguns out of state, still must pay the transfer tax. Does not save you the $200. The C+R is not a business license. It is a collector's license. If you happen to sell something you collected you must keep records. |
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Posted: 6/21/2001 11:00:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By David Hineline: Keep in mind that C+R license don't do much for you. Allows you to order C+R guns only out of state. Unless you bought an original WW2 1919 it would do nothing for you. Can only order C+R machineguns out of state, still must pay the transfer tax. Does not save you the $200. The C+R is not a business license. It is a collector's license. If you happen to sell something you collected you must keep records. Sure about that? I am only aware of CA state laws that prevent the use of a C&R in state. Heck, they don't even prevent it. They just make you DROS and wait 10 days. And that's only from an 01 FFL. Even in the PRK, you can get around this with a Certificate of Eligibility from the AG. Can you point me to the federal law on this? Don't know anything about machine guns. You have to keep records on the C&R guns you keep, too. The gun was already recorded in your book when you purchased it and even without a C&R, I would never sell a gun without keeping records (or having an FFL keep the records as is required in my state). |
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