Is the Kel Tech Freedom 380 really "The finest handun ever crafted"?

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Is the Kel Tech Freedom 380 really "The finest handun ever crafted"? (Page 1 of 2)

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:28:49 AM EDT

KEL-TEC and MICHAEL SAVAGE bring you the Collectible Limited Edition “FREEDOM” Firearm.

This special P3AT FREEDOM edition is brought to you by Kel-Tec & Michael Savage with the quality craftsmanship and attention to detail that is unlike any other. The Kel-Tec P3AT Freedom limited edition is stamped with the word ‘FREEDOM’ and is dated December 15, 1791, the ratification of the Bill of Rights.

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:29:56 AM EDT

[#1]

I think it looks alright. Not sure about the quality though.

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:30:04 AM EDT

[#2]

Fuck no it's a cheap piece of shit.
That's what kel tec makes, but they back them up well.

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:30:54 AM EDT

[#3]

If you can see mould release lines, it most assuredly does not fall under those criteria...

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:30:57 AM EDT

[#4]

They'll sell, just not to me.

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:31:16 AM EDT

[#5]

Michael Savage? As in the radio moonbat?

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:32:03 AM EDT

[#6]

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:35:01 AM EDT

[#7]

Hell no.

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:38:40 AM EDT

[#8]

Not very good quality. I'll never own another one.

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:47:48 AM EDT

[#9]

The P3AT that I had ran just fine with factory ball ammo; I didn't try it with fancy ninja HP shredder +P+P+ ammo though. I also didn't shoot it very much, but it never bobbled in feeding/functioning, ever. I wound up selling iit to someone who made me a deal I couldn't turn down.

I wouldn't sneer at another one. If you want/need a slim automatic pocket gun, it's definitily a good starting point. Of course, it's hard to ignore a J-frame Smith if you want that..

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:50:27 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Michael Savage? As in the radio moonbat?

Anyone confirm it's the Radio guy?

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:55:51 AM EDT

[#11]

So they just blatantly ripped off the Ruger LCP?!

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:56:54 AM EDT

[#12]

looks like a mexican drug runner/gangster gun, but less pimped out with gold and virgin mary grips.

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:57:10 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
The P3AT that I had ran just fine with factory ball ammo; I didn't try it with fancy ninja HP shredder +P+P+ ammo though. I also didn't shoot it very much, but it never bobbled in feeding/functioning, ever. I wound up selling iit to someone who made me a deal I couldn't turn down.

I wouldn't sneer at another one. If you want/need a slim automatic pocket gun, it's definitily a good starting point. Of course, it's hard to ignore a J-frame Smith if you want that..

Nowhere near as small as a P3AT.

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:57:36 AM EDT

[#14]

Yes its the radio guy, I hear him on the ads on AM radio around here all the time.

Posted: 12/11/2009 8:59:19 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Michael Savage? As in the radio moonbat?

Anyone confirm it's the Radio guy?

Yup,
Heard the ad on his show (driving between Memphis & Little Rock at night, there is little programming to choose from.)

Posted: 12/11/2009 9:01:27 AM EDT

[#16]

No doubt about it

Posted: 12/11/2009 9:04:52 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The P3AT that I had ran just fine with factory ball ammo; I didn't try it with fancy ninja HP shredder +P+P+ ammo though. I also didn't shoot it very much, but it never bobbled in feeding/functioning, ever. I wound up selling iit to someone who made me a deal I couldn't turn down.

I wouldn't sneer at another one. If you want/need a slim automatic pocket gun, it's definitily a good starting point. Of course, it's hard to ignore a J-frame Smith if you want that..

Nowhere near as small as a P3AT.

They're thicker but I don't think they're much longer or taller than a P3AT.

If I didn't shoot a revolver incredibly poorly I'd be considering a J-frame too

I'm making due with my comparitivly huge Detonics CombatMaster...

Posted: 12/11/2009 9:06:23 AM EDT

[#18]

I like my Keltec PF9 (9mm)

Posted: 12/11/2009 9:09:02 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
They'll sell, just not to me.

Wont sell to me either, but of course I have one in my pocket right now without the word "FREEDOM" on it.

Posted: 12/11/2009 9:38:45 AM EDT

[#20]

at first, I was like

but then I

(happy P3AT and P11 owner)

Posted: 12/11/2009 9:51:16 AM EDT

[#21]

i love my kel tec and it gets carried daily......

that said it's FAR from the sig in quality.

Posted: 12/11/2009 9:51:46 AM EDT

[#22]

Uummm...is it just me, or does that bore look to be the size of about a .45 on a .380 frame? Maybe it's just the angle or something, but something just doesn't look right.

Edited to add - I do like them though. My XD Sub .40, S&W 642 and P3AT...I never leave the house without atleast one of them on me.

Posted: 12/11/2009 9:54:39 AM EDT

[#23]

Why are they using that Germanic script?

Posted: 12/11/2009 9:58:12 AM EDT

[#24]

Umm... the seams in the plastic would point to NO!

Among other things

Posted: 12/11/2009 10:04:14 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

Why are they using that Germanic script?

it's a conspiracy.

you should see the one i got for joining the mason's

Posted: 12/11/2009 10:56:22 AM EDT

[#26]

1gen owner here. Seams in the plastic come off easy enough with about 45 seconds behind a half round file. I had to work the bugs out of mine, the final fix was to chamfer the top of the chamber opening to about a 1/32"-1/16" radius. All my jams went away. Now it even shoots the WWB from wally world. Yea, I was pretty pissed having to make a new gun work right out of the box, but it was the only game in town in that size when it was introduced. now I need to get the slide hard chromed.

BTW, not no, but HELL NO will I pay $600+ for that fancy crap they engraved on the slide.

Posted: 12/11/2009 10:57:12 AM EDT

[#27]

How much they want for that?

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:01:23 AM EDT

[#28]

I was already laughing pretty hard just at the mention of 'Kel-Tek' and 'finest handgun ever crafted' being used together in the same sentence. The fact it's the same crappy mouse gun with a laser and pretty slide just adds fuel to the fire.

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:03:39 AM EDT

[#29]

At least those adds are not as bad as the DC Engineering adds touting their SKS mags & Brakes ...

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:05:18 AM EDT

[#30]

No. A good little gun, though, imo.

I like this compact .380 better:

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:05:51 AM EDT

[#31]

Were these pistols used in the Jodie Foster movie (Remake of Deathwish) ??

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:07:07 AM EDT

[#32]

This thread title is a rhetorical question... right?... right??

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:09:06 AM EDT

[#33]

Looks like my Davis P-380 Californian (Chrome)

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:12:22 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
Were these pistols used in the Jodie Foster movie (Remake of Deathwish) ??

You tell me Sparky: Click

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:16:21 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Michael Savage? As in the radio moonbat?

Anyone confirm it's the Radio guy?

It is, he pimps it pretty hard during breaks in his show, along with Front Sight training.

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:18:35 AM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

So they just blatantly ripped off the Ruger LCP?!

hehehehehehehe

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:18:51 AM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Michael Savage? As in the radio moonbat?

Anyone confirm it's the Radio guy?

It is, he pimps it pretty hard during breaks in his show, along with Front Sight training.

And he pimps an ammo brand too , and another Firearms related sponser is in heavy rotation too with another potential one on deck (And think Left leaning folks and haters of conservatives try to paint him as an anti every chance they get .

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:26:38 AM EDT

[#38]

My wife carries a Kel tech very reliable looks cheap

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:31:10 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
My wife carries a Kel tech very reliable looks cheap

How many rounds of your defense ammo (assuming hollowpoints) have you run through it with 100% reliability?

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:31:57 AM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Were these pistols used in the Jodie Foster movie (Remake of Deathwish) ??

You tell me Sparky: Click

Looks like a Kahr

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:32:06 AM EDT

[#41]

When Clothing does not allow me to carry my Glock 23, I carry a Kel-Tec P3AT. It's an ugly little pocket pistol that gets the job done, I haven't had any issues with it after the 100 round break in.

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:33:07 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
When Clothing does not allow me to carry my Glock 23, I carry a Kel-Tec P3AT. It's an ugly little pocket pistol that gets the job done, I haven't had any issues with it after the 100 round break in.

Well, I'm glad your guitar is a weapon. Because your Kel-Tek isn't much of one

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:33:19 AM EDT

[#43]

I heard him pimping this very gun in an ad on his show a while back. At first I was like

then I was like

then

.

I have a Kel Tec 3AT. I carry it often, mine is reliable and a good pocket gun. That said, I feel I have the personal knowledge to say, in no way shape or form is it "the finest handgun ever crafted".

I lost a lot of respect for Savage the second I heard it.

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:34:27 AM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:
No. A good little gun, though, imo.

I like this compact .380 better:

http://www.lipseys.com/eImages/BersaThunderdeluxe.jpg

Yup, my wife carries the stainless version.

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:35:29 AM EDT

[#45]

I like the look of the micro desert eagle for a .380. Metal frame and all...

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:35:33 AM EDT

[#46]

I've fired a friend's. It is his everyday carry. Its cheaply made, but it shot surprisingly well.

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:35:42 AM EDT

[#47]

Uh...the ad is written by Kel-Tech what did you think they were going to call it? A pot-metal piece of shit?

Savage gets paid to read the words of Kel-tech's ad on the radio. Big deal. He reads ads for all kinda of things, 'Swiss America', 'Carbonite', 'Go-To-My-PC'....

The company wants the host to read their ad because people listening to his show are more likely to listen/not ignore his voice when he reads it then another commercial voice.

FWIW he said his favorite pistol is the combat commander.

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:37:32 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
So they just blatantly ripped off the Ruger LCP?!

FAIL.
The other way around. P3AT's have been around for years, the LCP is what, maybe 2 years old?

EDIT: P3AT introduced 2003.
LCP introduced 2008.

I'm not loving the OP pistol myself, but I am carrying my P11 right now. I do love it.

ETA: Jodie Foster was carrying a Kahr IIRC.

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:41:27 AM EDT

[#49]

i love my keltec .380, definitly a good gun for pocket carry, not much else

Posted: 12/11/2009 11:42:51 AM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:

So they just blatantly ripped off the Ruger LCP?!

FAIL.

The other way around. P3AT's have been around for years, the LCP is what, maybe 2 years old?

EDIT: P3AT introduced 2003.

LCP introduced 2008.

I'm not loving the OP pistol myself, but I am carrying my P11 right now. I do love it.

ETA: Jodie Foster was carrying a Kahr IIRC.

you missed his

after the part you quoted.

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