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Posted: 9/6/2009 8:58:45 PM EDT
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I was in one lastnight that had 225k on it and still running strong.
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Posted: 9/6/2009 8:59:16 PM EDT
[#2]
500,000 with regular maintenance.
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Posted: 9/6/2009 8:59:24 PM EDT
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How long would you expect a ford diesel Excursion engine to last? I see lots of them for sale in the 150K-160K range and wonder how long they'll last till they need a rebuild and what a rebuild might cost? I have decided i won't buy GM cars anymore, and we have a large family and need an SUV for camping etc.... I want an excursion but don't want to spend 15K and then have to spend another 15K to rebuild an engine in a year. 500,000 to 1,000,000 with upkeep checkout powerstrokehelp.com and youtube user powerstroke help, he has great vids |
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Posted: 9/6/2009 8:59:44 PM EDT
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6.0 or 7.3?
The 6.ohno I would expect to last until it breaks again. The latest ones were better, but still... most recalled diesel engine ever. The 7.3, well, your kids will probably get that one, and maybe theirs too. |
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Posted: 9/6/2009 9:00:00 PM EDT
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Not an excursion, but my 7.3 has about 230k on it and running strong.
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Posted: 9/6/2009 9:00:15 PM EDT
[#6]
The 6.0 is bad news when out of warranty. Very expensive repairs.
The 7.x have lot less power but are way more reliable. I switched to an F-150 after getting hit with a big 6.0 repair bill for a bad HPOP. |
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Posted: 9/6/2009 9:01:50 PM EDT
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Don't know about the 6.0, but the 7.3 should go 300K minimum, with proper maintenance. |
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Posted: 9/6/2009 9:12:28 PM EDT
[#8]
It depends on the engine.
The Excursion if built off the F350, just like the Expedition is built off the F150. The F350 6.0 is known to have problems. IIRC the 6.0 tends to do ok for farm type work but is a problem when you use the vehicle as a daily driver/grocery getter. If you plan on making short trips (under 10 miles until shutdown) then the 6.0 won't make it far after it's already got 100K on the clock. The 7.3 is a much more reliable engine for both driving tasks. |
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Posted: 9/6/2009 9:13:00 PM EDT
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2..maybe 5k tops
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Posted: 9/6/2009 9:15:04 PM EDT
[#10]
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6.0 or 7.3? The 6.ohno I would expect to last until it breaks again. The latest ones were better, but still... most recalled diesel engine ever. The 7.3, well, your kids will probably get that one, and maybe theirs too. Exactly. Had a 7.3 that went on and on and on like the energizer bunny My current 6.0 powerjoke goes thru head gaskets, fuel injectors, overheats for no apparent reason, loses high pressure oil pumps for breakfast. It has been in the shop 58 times since new (2003) up to the 100,000mile mark ford was ho-hum but ok about taking care of repairs but the wait was long due to the line of 6.0 powerstrokes waiting for repairs in the dealer lots shortages of parts etc. Since the warranty expired the service writers call the police if you set foot on their lot. 7.3 go for it 6.0 run like hell. |
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Posted: 9/6/2009 9:15:35 PM EDT
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That 7.3L is a workhorse. I'd imagine 400k easy with regular preventative maintenance.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 3:20:07 AM EDT
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6.0 or 7.3? The 6.ohno I would expect to last until it breaks again. The latest ones were better, but still... most recalled diesel engine ever. The 7.3, well, your kids will probably get that one, and maybe theirs too. Exactly. Had a 7.3 that went on and on and on like the energizer bunny My current 6.0 powerjoke goes thru head gaskets, fuel injectors, overheats for no apparent reason, loses high pressure oil pumps for breakfast. It has been in the shop 58 times since new (2003) up to the 100,000mile mark ford was ho-hum but ok about taking care of repairs but the wait was long due to the line of 6.0 powerstrokes waiting for repairs in the dealer lots shortages of parts etc. Since the warranty expired the service writers call the police if you set foot on their lot. 7.3 go for it 6.0 run like hell. This The 7.3 is a great motor the 6.0 is a screaming POS |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 3:25:43 AM EDT
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Don't know about the 6.0, but the 7.3 should go 300K minimum, with proper maintenance.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 3:27:33 AM EDT
[#14]
I have 255000 and some change on a 7.3, it runs like a raped ape (pissed off) I love it!!
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Posted: 9/7/2009 3:34:12 AM EDT
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probably outlast the rest of the truck
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Posted: 9/7/2009 3:40:15 AM EDT
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Buddy of mine had about ten F-250/F-350's with the 7.3L, couldn't kill the things and they were used hard, they would go through a transmission every 100k(they pulled a bunch of equipment around) but most trucks had several hundred thousand miles on the original engines. In 2005 they bought six new ones with the 6.0, they spent more time getting repaired or waiting to get repaired than actually working, They swore off Ford and bought some Chevy Duramax trucks.
Two ambulance services that are customers or ours just shake their heads now because their 6.0L & 6.4L F-Series ambulances spend so much time at the dealership for repairs. One of them is trying out a Dodge with now, thinking about switching over. A friend of mine stopped by the house a couple of days ago in his 2004 F-250 with the 6.0L, he was telling me it has been in the shop 5 times in the last 6 months, left him stranded on the side of the road twice and he's a maintenance freak, takes care of his stuff. He said he's gonna sell that one and look for a pre-2004 with the 7.3L to buy while there are still some around. My dad has a 2002 F-250 4x4 with the 7.3L, had a clogged fuel filter once from some bad fuel, he loves that truck and said he's just gonna keep it till he dies, might happen since he only has 80,000 miles on it. 7.3L good, 6.0L bad. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 3:40:32 AM EDT
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The only diesel excursions you see for sale are for sale for a reason.
Most owners would rather be shot in the ass than lose their truck. Kharn |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 3:41:25 AM EDT
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I have a gasoline Ranger that just 200k.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 3:54:06 AM EDT
[#19]
36,001 miles.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 5:26:59 AM EDT
[#20]
My 2003 7.3 PSD has 144,000 miles on it and runs like a champ.
My Truck.... 2003 F-350 SD, 7.3 PSD, Auto, CC, LB, SRW, FX4, 4.10:1 Genuine Gear Ring and Pinions, Detroit Truetrac Differentials F&R, FabTech Ladder Bars, SuperChips 1705, Magnaflow 4" Exhaust, Ford AIS Air Cleaner, ISSPRO Boost, Trans, and EGT Guages, XM, Ford AIC, Brite Box, 203* T-Stat and Billet Housing, Tru-Cool 4739 MAX Trans Cooler, ProComp StageII 4" Lift on Eagle 589's with 35x12.50x16.5 BFG AT KO's, WeatherGuard Toolbox, Rhino Liner, B&W Turnover w/Companion 5th Wheel Hitch & Firestone Ride Rite Airbags, PacBrake PRXB. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 5:35:25 AM EDT
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They last forever but my advice is to carry a spare cam position sensor in the glovebox.
It sucks when yours goes south and you're 1300 miles from home and it's a Saturday on a holiday weekend 
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Posted: 9/7/2009 6:43:09 AM EDT
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They last forever but my advice is to carry a spare cam position sensor in the glovebox. It sucks when yours goes south and you're 1300 miles from home and it's a Saturday on a holiday weekend Did you know the speed limiter is disabled on the first start after the CPS is replaced? 
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Posted: 9/7/2009 6:47:32 AM EDT
[#23]
7.3 will last for freakin ever. If you want more power, chip it, get the banks turbo, banks exhaust, and torture the rice burners.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 6:55:33 AM EDT
[#24]
If it is like the Super duty 250 not very long without constant repairs.
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How long would you expect a ford diesel Excursion engine to last? I see lots of them for sale in the 150K-160K range and wonder how long they'll last till they need a rebuild and what a rebuild might cost? I have decided i won't buy GM cars anymore, and we have a large family and need an SUV for camping etc.... I want an excursion but don't want to spend 15K and then have to spend another 15K to rebuild an engine in a year. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 6:57:55 AM EDT
[#25]
Buy a blown up 6.0 donor, and transplant a Cummins into it.
Or get a 7.3 |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 6:58:38 AM EDT
[#26]
Have 196K on my 2000 7.3, all those are pleasure miles as I work from home. Had a chip in for 10 years, finally went bad, now onto a tuner. Line-X the whole truck next spring, plan on keeping it forever.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 7:09:19 AM EDT
[#27]
Good maintenance habits make all the difference. I see 7.3 and 6.0 at the shop all the time with 300,000 plus on them, and they are fully capable of making 1.000.000.
Bad maintenance can wreck an engine in a matter of days. (think construction site with an improperly fitting air filter, or engine inhaled air filter due to clogging, just pulling dirt in) 6.0 is more maintenance intensive than 7.3, more components to lube\ cool with tighter tolerances and higher speeds. Cooling system is my #1 failure point on both engines. no k+n air filters, chips and programmers, gimmick oil or fuel filters, or mixes with everything universal coolant just do it with motorcraft or international and drive on, don't forget the trans and differentials, and t-case. Same for mopar or cummins on dodge and delco on gm. One heck of a good truck, too. totally bulletproof. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 7:11:16 AM EDT
[#28]
chip it, get the banks turbo, banks exhaust, and torture the rice burners
Fixed it for you.... Custom tunes by DP with F5 switch, get the banks turbo GT38R or Modded H2E, banksMBRB 4" Downpipe and 4" exhaust, Transgo Tugger Valve Body, and torture the rice burners |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 7:12:56 AM EDT
[#29]
About half as long as a Cummins.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 7:13:41 AM EDT
[#30]
1999 7.3 F250 manual.
4" exhaust, Juice with Attitude programmer, intake. Manual transmission and 4wd. I hit 300k this weekend.
It got a turbo at 207k, before any mods. It was a farm truck before me. And that's it for engine issues. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 7:20:20 AM EDT
[#31]
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chip it, get the banks turbo, banks exhaust, and torture the rice burners
Fixed it for you.... Custom tunes by DP with F5 switch, get the banks turbo GT38R or Modded H2E, banksMBRB 4" Downpipe and 4" exhaust, Transgo Tugger Valve Body, and torture the rice burners Banks, going slower for more money. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 7:33:35 AM EDT
[#32]
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6.0 or 7.3? The 6.ohno I would expect to last until it breaks again. The latest ones were better, but still... most recalled diesel engine ever. The 7.3, well, your kids will probably get that one, and maybe theirs too. Really, really, really worth repeating. I know lots of people who for the first time ever considered a non-Ford diesel work truck because of the 6.0. I know one fellow who is on his fourth engine. Yes, there were attorneys involved. His last three purchases, for the first time ever, have been Dodges with the Cummins, and no, he doesn't really like them. Ford has been incredibly chintzy about warranty claims with this engine. To be clear, they are turning down warranty claims with this engine for reasons that are unrelated to the failures and/or for reasons that are actually approved by Navistar and/or for reasons that are SOP with diesels in normal medium duty use and are defending cases in court where they are clearly in the wrong. Ford WILL NOT back down on these cases, apparently, and are counting on the customers not having the money to pursue them. Ford already tried to screw Navistar to the wall on this and lost, in court. The 6.0 line has really been a disaster for them. This was simply never an issue with the 7.3. The only thing that the 7.3 had issues with was deep block cavitation pinholing cylinders, but if you used the proper coolant mix that was a non-issue. What's ironic is that the 6.x engine line is now pretty well worked out, but I would never, ever buy one that had not previously been rebuilt by someone other than Ford and with tested, blueprinted injectors. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 7:36:40 AM EDT
[#33]
My 7.3 has 293,000 and still runs great. I expect to get 500k out of it (if the rest of the truck stays together).
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Posted: 9/7/2009 7:45:45 AM EDT
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We've got a 7.3 (T444E International) in a 12,000 lb rollback truck at work , max gross weight 21,000 lbs. The thing has 390,000 miles on it (original engine) , and running as strong as ever , no smoke , oil consumption , nothing.
As long as maintenance is kept up religiously , the 7.3 is good to go. 
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Posted: 9/7/2009 7:47:32 AM EDT
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500,000 with regular maintenance. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 8:09:57 AM EDT
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36,001 miles. American made.... |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 8:27:15 AM EDT
[#37]
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500,000 with regular maintenance. +1, regular maintenance is key, so is using it on a regular basis. The worst thing you could do is let it sit, all sorts of problems then. Drive it at least once a week for an hour and keep up on maintenance, you will get 500K +. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 8:32:35 AM EDT
[#38]
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It depends on the engine. The Excursion if built off the F350, just like the Expedition is built off the F150. The F350 6.0 is known to have problems. IIRC the 6.0 tends to do ok for farm type work but is a problem when you use the vehicle as a daily driver/grocery getter. If you plan on making short trips (under 10 miles until shutdown) then the 6.0 won't make it far after it's already got 100K on the clock. The 7.3 is a much more reliable engine for both driving tasks. Yes and no, but you are on the right track, the key is consistent use. A lot of short trips not allowing the motor to warm up will cause problems, a lot of sitting and idling will kill a 6.0 too. The key is using the motor for actual driving, allowing it to warm up to running temp for at least 30 minutes a week. If constant idling is needed, you will need to install something that keeps the RPM up durring long periods of idling. Most of the 6.0 problems are caused by a lack of use (beleive it or not). Someone who buys one as a "grocery getter" and uses it once a month for kids' soccer pool, will have more trouble than one used for ambulance duty. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 8:34:49 AM EDT
[#39]
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6.0 or 7.3? The 6.ohno I would expect to last until it breaks again. The latest ones were better, but still... most recalled diesel engine ever. The 7.3, well, your kids will probably get that one, and maybe theirs too. Exactly. Had a 7.3 that went on and on and on like the energizer bunny My current 6.0 powerjoke goes thru head gaskets, fuel injectors, overheats for no apparent reason, loses high pressure oil pumps for breakfast. It has been in the shop 58 times since new (2003) up to the 100,000mile mark ford was ho-hum but ok about taking care of repairs but the wait was long due to the line of 6.0 powerstrokes waiting for repairs in the dealer lots shortages of parts etc. Since the warranty expired the service writers call the police if you set foot on their lot. 7.3 go for it 6.0 run like hell. I have heard stories like this in the past too. I think 03 was early for the 6.0 and they did have a lot of problems. The newer ones are better, but neither compare to the 7.3. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 8:41:58 AM EDT
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It depends on the engine. The Excursion if built off the F350, just like the Expedition is built off the F150. The F350 6.0 is known to have problems. IIRC the 6.0 tends to do ok for farm type work but is a problem when you use the vehicle as a daily driver/grocery getter. If you plan on making short trips (under 10 miles until shutdown) then the 6.0 won't make it far after it's already got 100K on the clock. The 7.3 is a much more reliable engine for both driving tasks. Yes and no, but you are on the right track, the key is consistent use. A lot of short trips not allowing the motor to warm up will cause problems, a lot of sitting and idling will kill a 6.0 too. The key is using the motor for actual driving, allowing it to warm up to running temp for at least 30 minutes a week. If constant idling is needed, you will need to install something that keeps the RPM up durring long periods of idling. Most of the 6.0 problems are caused by a lack of use (beleive it or not). Someone who buys one as a "grocery getter" and uses it once a month for kids' soccer pool, will have more trouble than one used for ambulance duty. EGR is a bad, bad, bad idea on diesels. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:01:48 AM EDT
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EGR is a bad, bad, bad idea on diesels. Agreed, but thank your freindly Federal Agency for the requirement to have one. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:02:13 AM EDT
[#42]
My 97 F250HD has 265k on and running like a champ. I have a buddy that has 512 on a 96 powerstroke never any issues. .
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:08:18 AM EDT
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36,001 miles. American made.... Because the Toyota and Nissan 2500 and 3500 series trucks last so much longer. Oh thats right they dont build those. Go troll somewhere else. |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:09:20 AM EDT
[#44]
25,000 is a good number for a ford diesel. Chevy or Dodge would be about 300,000.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:12:22 AM EDT
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25,000 is a good number for a ford diesel. Chevy or Dodge would be about 300,000. 
Yep, that is why you see so many Chevies and Dodges used as Squads. ETA: I will give credit were it is due, I know a guy who owns a Chevy Deisel and gets 25+ mpg. 
But it is NOT used for towing anything heavy.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:14:57 AM EDT
[#46]
I've seen the 7.3 still running with 300k.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:18:33 AM EDT
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25,000 is a good number for a ford diesel. Chevy or Dodge would be about 300,000. How many real contractors, ranchers or anybody else who actualy pulls a trailer with their truck for a living have you seen running a Durajoke? |
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:21:22 AM EDT
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25,000 is a good number for a ford diesel. Chevy or Dodge would be about 300,000. How many real contractors, ranchers or anybody else who actualy pulls a trailer with their truck for a living have you seen running a Durajoke? I think the price point is the factor here, not as much the overall durability and reliability of the system. GM trucks, on average, are $10,000 more than a comparable Ford or Dodge. Conversely, they're more livable, not having a ride like a covered wagon and seats made for humans.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:22:45 AM EDT
[#49]
I'd expect 300K from any modern diesel and be disappointed if it went less than 250K. Frankly, I'd expect the transmission to fail before the motor.
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Posted: 9/7/2009 9:23:07 AM EDT
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878,787. Duh.
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