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Posted: 6/20/2009 9:04:44 PM EDT
Found this while googling some random stuff. Anybody know the story about it?



Thanks.
Link Posted: 6/20/2009 9:06:47 PM EDT
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Found this while googling some random stuff. Anybody know the story about it?





http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m83/cpjones630/crashed_helicopterjpe.jpg





Thanks.



Without a date, it's hard to know...





The Army tried to 'play Air Force' with apaches during the initial invasion, and that mission got the shit shot out of it...





IIRC, at least one bird went down & the crew was captured....





That one looks like it hit nose-first though, based on the gun being ripped off...



Based on the open hatch, looks like someone got out of that one alive....





 
Link Posted: 6/21/2009 6:53:27 PM EDT
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After some more searching I found an article about it. Happened in Baghdad on July 16, 2006. I guess I missed it when it happened.
Link Posted: 6/21/2009 6:56:22 PM EDT
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After some more searching I found an article about it. Happened in Baghdad on July 16, 2006. I guess I missed it when it happened.


Did we give any Longbow's to Israel?

This was on July 20th, 2006:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=115905
Link Posted: 6/21/2009 7:04:33 PM EDT
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Don't know but it looks like it hurt alot.
Link Posted: 6/21/2009 9:35:20 PM EDT
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After some more searching I found an article about it. Happened in Baghdad on July 16, 2006. I guess I missed it when it happened.


Did we give any Longbow's to Israel?

This was on July 20th, 2006:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=115905


Hmm. Interesting.
Link Posted: 6/21/2009 10:13:21 PM EDT
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IIRC, at least one bird went down & the crew was captured....


Yep, but that isn't a photo of it... The one that went down during the invasion was externally undamaged, it was some Cav unit if I remember correctly.

Link Posted: 6/21/2009 10:15:19 PM EDT
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"Dammit son, that bird cost a helluva lot more than your Ford Ranger!"
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 10:12:35 AM EDT
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After some more searching I found an article about it. Happened in Baghdad on July 16, 2006. I guess I missed it when it happened.


Did we give any Longbow's to Israel?

This was on July 20th, 2006:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=115905


Hmm. Interesting.


Yup, I imagine an in-air collision at pretty good speeds might be able to knock the front end off.....especially depending on how it hit the ground.
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 10:29:29 AM EDT
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Found this while googling some random stuff. Anybody know the story about it?



Thanks.




Yes, it's a chopper that crashed in the desert.

Duh!
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 10:35:40 AM EDT
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After some more searching I found an article about it. Happened in Baghdad on July 16, 2006. I guess I missed it when it happened.




Did we give any Longbow's to Israel?



This was on July 20th, 2006:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=115905





Hmm. Interesting.




Yup, I imagine an in-air collision at pretty good speeds might be able to knock the front end off.....especially depending on how it hit the ground.


THAT is not a mid air...



A mid-air at 'good speed' = far more damage, from 'smashed like a soda-can' to 'little bitty chopper pieces'...



They are NOT that sturdily built (even AHs)....



What you are seeing there, is an impact with the ground & rotation....



My guess: The aircraft hit nose first (most likely rotating around the rotor-axis at impact) , busted off the gun, then rolled & sheared off the weapon wing/main rotor.....



 
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 10:38:06 AM EDT
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After some more searching I found an article about it. Happened in Baghdad on July 16, 2006. I guess I missed it when it happened.


Did we give any Longbow's to Israel?

This was on July 20th, 2006:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=115905


Hmm. Interesting.


Yup, I imagine an in-air collision at pretty good speeds might be able to knock the front end off.....especially depending on how it hit the ground.

THAT is not a mid air...

A mid-air at 'good speed' = far more damage, from 'smashed like a soda-can' to 'little bitty chopper pieces'...

They are NOT that sturdily built (even AHs)....

What you are seeing there, is an impact with the ground & rotation....

My guess: The aircraft hit nose first (most likely rotating around the rotor-axis at impact) , busted off the gun, then rolled & sheared off the weapon wing/main rotor.....
 


It would have to be an awfully shallow crash angle because none of the frame is crunched up....
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 10:46:40 AM EDT
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Guard soldiers return home from Afghanistan










The Associated Press



















JACKSON, Tenn. — About 40 soldiers from the Tennessee Army National Guard are home after spending a year in Afghanistan.








The members of the Jackson-based Company R and Company D, 4-278th Armored Calvary Regiment deployed in October 2005 and operated Apache helicopters.








Family members, friends and fellow guardsmen greeted some of the returning soldiers Saturday at McKellar-Sipes Regional Airport.








“I missed them very much,” Chief Warrant Officer Daryl Hawkins said as hugged his children. “I’m very proud of everyone who participated (in this assignment). I know we made a difference in Afghanistan and made an improvement to their way of life.”








Hawkins said that families are the ones who suffer the most when soldiers are away and that the families are the true heroes.








Lori Hawkins, Daryl’s wife of 22 years, suggested perhaps he’s a bit too modest.








“He’s my hero,” she said. “It was very difficult when he was away, but I’m glad he is back now.”








Company R’s Chief Warrant Officer 3 William Timothy Flanigan, 37 of Milan, was killed July 2 when his AH-64 Apache helicopter crashed shortly after takeoff from Kandahar Airfield.








Maj. Gen. Jimmy Welch, deputy adjutant general of the Tennessee National Guard, said he was glad the rest of the soldiers returned home safely.








“It’s great to have these soldiers home,” he said. “As always, these soldiers have represented the state of Tennessee. We’re proud of them and glad they are home.”





















According to Washington Post stub about the incident, the date was July 2nd, 2006, which is within the same time frame as the what the picture says on a website I won't post because I didn't have time to check and make sure it is a good link, but I found it by googling "crashed helicopter jpg" which is what the file name of that photo is.





















Doesn't look like the one that got clipped by the Blackhawk is was escorting, I think that one it the ground upside down.











 
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 12:24:13 PM EDT
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Guard soldiers return home from Afghanistan


The Associated Press



JACKSON, Tenn. — About 40 soldiers from the Tennessee Army National Guard are home after spending a year in Afghanistan.

The members of the Jackson-based Company R and Company D, 4-278th Armored Calvary Regiment deployed in October 2005 and operated Apache helicopters.

Family members, friends and fellow guardsmen greeted some of the returning soldiers Saturday at McKellar-Sipes Regional Airport.

“I missed them very much,” Chief Warrant Officer Daryl Hawkins said as hugged his children. “I’m very proud of everyone who participated (in this assignment). I know we made a difference in Afghanistan and made an improvement to their way of life.”

Hawkins said that families are the ones who suffer the most when soldiers are away and that the families are the true heroes.

Lori Hawkins, Daryl’s wife of 22 years, suggested perhaps he’s a bit too modest.

“He’s my hero,” she said. “It was very difficult when he was away, but I’m glad he is back now.”

Company R’s Chief Warrant Officer 3 William Timothy Flanigan, 37 of Milan, was killed July 2 when his AH-64 Apache helicopter crashed shortly after takeoff from Kandahar Airfield.

Maj. Gen. Jimmy Welch, deputy adjutant general of the Tennessee National Guard, said he was glad the rest of the soldiers returned home safely.

“It’s great to have these soldiers home,” he said. “As always, these soldiers have represented the state of Tennessee. We’re proud of them and glad they are home.”




According to Washington Post stub about the incident, the date was July 2nd, 2006, which is within the same time frame as the what the picture says on a website I won't post because I didn't have time to check and make sure it is a good link, but I found it by googling "crashed helicopter jpg" which is what the file name of that photo is.




Doesn't look like the one that got clipped by the Blackhawk is was escorting, I think that one it the ground upside down.


 


Found this as well:

US Army Soldiers Survive Helicopter Crash in Iraq
Thursday, July 13, 2006 | 10:09 AM

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - July 13, 2006 –– A U.S. Army Apache attack helicopter crashed Thursday during a combat patrol southwest of Baghdad, but both pilots survived, the U.S. military said.

The statement did not say what caused the crash nor give a precise location.

However, an Iraqi army official in the area said the helicopter was shot down in the village of Grakoul, located near the town of Youssifiyah about eight miles southwest of Baghdad. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak to media.
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The names and the conditions of the two pilots were not released, but the statement said they were flown to a U.S. military facility north of the capital.

On April 1, an Apache was shot down near Youssifiyah, killing two crew members. An al-Qaida-linked group claimed responsibility.

A few days later, a videotape was posted on an Islamist Web site showing the crash scene, with several men dragging the burning body of a man across a field while shouting "Allahu akbar," or "God is great!"

Last month, three American soldiers were killed in the same area, and the bodies of two of them were mutilated.


http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/national_world&id=4361747
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 4:34:19 PM EDT
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After some more searching I found an article about it. Happened in Baghdad on July 16, 2006. I guess I missed it when it happened.






Did we give any Longbow's to Israel?





This was on July 20th, 2006:


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=115905








Hmm. Interesting.






Yup, I imagine an in-air collision at pretty good speeds might be able to knock the front end off.....especially depending on how it hit the ground.



THAT is not a mid air...





A mid-air at 'good speed' = far more damage, from 'smashed like a soda-can' to 'little bitty chopper pieces'...





They are NOT that sturdily built (even AHs)....





What you are seeing there, is an impact with the ground & rotation....





My guess: The aircraft hit nose first (most likely rotating around the rotor-axis at impact) , busted off the gun, then rolled & sheared off the weapon wing/main rotor.....


 






It would have to be an awfully shallow crash angle because none of the frame is crunched up....



That's what I'm thinking too...





Some sort of issue with the tail rotor, aircraft rotating around the main rotor shaft, hit the ground at a slight nose first angle (with the 30mm as point of contact) then roll sideways destroying 1 weapon-wing and the main rotors...




We have recovered & salvaged worse....



There was one UH-60 that crash-landed in Korea - TAIL FIRST (Pilot error - some CPT getting her flight time in pooched a landing)...



It was bent up bad, they (civvie contractors) jigged it, straightened it, and returned it to service...



They did a shitty job though, because the bird started shaking itself apart & eventually developed problems such as crew doors opening in flight....



I was sent up to take a look at it & see if my unit could fix it... The pilot (CW) told me 'This damn thing keeps trying to kill me'....
 
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 4:38:36 PM EDT
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Quoted:

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Found this while googling some random stuff. Anybody know the story about it?

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m83/cpjones630/crashed_helicopterjpe.jpg

Thanks.

Without a date, it's hard to know...

The Army tried to 'play Air Force' with apaches during the initial invasion, and that mission got the shit shot out of it...

IIRC, at least one bird went down & the crew was captured....

That one looks like it hit nose-first though, based on the gun being ripped off...

Based on the open hatch, looks like someone got out of that one alive....
 


How does Army usually use the Apaches? Where they using them for what A-10s normally do?
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 5:13:48 PM EDT
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Guard soldiers return home from Afghanistan


The Associated Press



JACKSON, Tenn. — About 40 soldiers from the Tennessee Army National Guard are home after spending a year in Afghanistan.

The members of the Jackson-based Company R and Company D, 4-278th Armored Calvary Regiment deployed in October 2005 and operated Apache helicopters.

Family members, friends and fellow guardsmen greeted some of the returning soldiers Saturday at McKellar-Sipes Regional Airport.

“I missed them very much,” Chief Warrant Officer Daryl Hawkins said as hugged his children. “I’m very proud of everyone who participated (in this assignment). I know we made a difference in Afghanistan and made an improvement to their way of life.”

Hawkins said that families are the ones who suffer the most when soldiers are away and that the families are the true heroes.

Lori Hawkins, Daryl’s wife of 22 years, suggested perhaps he’s a bit too modest.

“He’s my hero,” she said. “It was very difficult when he was away, but I’m glad he is back now.”

Company R’s Chief Warrant Officer 3 William Timothy Flanigan, 37 of Milan, was killed July 2 when his AH-64 Apache helicopter crashed shortly after takeoff from Kandahar Airfield.

Maj. Gen. Jimmy Welch, deputy adjutant general of the Tennessee National Guard, said he was glad the rest of the soldiers returned home safely.

“It’s great to have these soldiers home,” he said. “As always, these soldiers have represented the state of Tennessee. We’re proud of them and glad they are home.”




According to Washington Post stub about the incident, the date was July 2nd, 2006, which is within the same time frame as the what the picture says on a website I won't post because I didn't have time to check and make sure it is a good link, but I found it by googling "crashed helicopter jpg" which is what the file name of that photo is.




Doesn't look like the one that got clipped by the Blackhawk is was escorting, I think that one it the ground upside down.


 


I don't think that the story is the same as the pic. The copilot of that aircraft was a guy that I grew up and graduated high school with. The taliban shot rockets at their compound. His Apache scrambled to shoot rockets back at them. They went in on takeoff. It sucked.
Link Posted: 6/22/2009 5:33:12 PM EDT
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This is a link to an unofficial website listing crashes by type that involved fatalities.

Army Air Crews

This one looks like it's the 06 Nov 06 crash.

I have several friends listed on this site and a few others I know by name and reputation.
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