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Posted: 1/9/2002 4:17:49 PM EDT
It's easy: Just arrest the owner of the property. Here are some direct quotes: [b] A Lincolnshire farmer has accused police of failing to stop illegal ravers from taking over his sheds on New Year's Eve. David Benton, of Moorby, said about 70 revellers smashed down his farm gate, drove a lorry-load of disco equipment onto this property and set fire to pallets. He called Lincolnshire Police, who sent two officers, but said ravers could not be evicted because there were fewer than 100 trouble-makers involved. Mr Benton, 44, said: "I will defend my property, and I will use violence if I have to if this happens again. The police have already said they will arrest me if I do." [i]'Totally irresponsible'[/i] "It was like being a farmer in Zimbabwe - the police stood outside the gate while inside people were smashing up my property and they were doing nothing about it." Lincolnshire Police said officers could only intervene to break up rave parties if certain criteria were met.[/b] source: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_1740000/1740151.stm[/url] There's more: [b] Police arrested an Essex farmer on Boxing Day when he tried to confront ravers who took over his barn for a party. Police said the 40-year-old Essex farmer, Graeme Stephen, from Great Dunmow, was arrested to prevent a public order disturbance.[/b] source: [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_1742000/1742964.stm[/url] Damn, I'm glad I live in Texas. [(:|)]
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 4:19:47 PM EDT
Write off England. They've 'ad their nuts cut off.
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 4:22:00 PM EDT
That's unreal! It defies all common sense! The brits have their own way of doing things, I know, but that is mind-numbingly stupid!
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 4:33:17 PM EDT
What Huero said: write 'em off. What a bunch of sallies! Good grief, it really does fly in the face of well, any logic at all, eh love?
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 4:59:35 PM EDT
Now, didn't George Washington and Company have exactly the right idea when they threw these people out of here? Looks like it to me. [IMG]http://www.minorannoyance.net/~spin/Smilies/contrib/aahmed/biggrin.gif[/IMG]
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 5:07:20 PM EDT
For more evidence on how screwed up they are, consider this:
OLIVER LETWIN, the shadow home secretary, faced criticism from Tory ranks yesterday for abandoning the policy of giving householders a right to defend their homes by force. The proposal was made by William Hague after Tony Martin, a farmer, was jailed for shooting dead a burglar. But Mr Letwin, who became a victim of crime last week after allowing a thief into his London home to use the lavatory, said the party would not revive the idea.
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The article this came from is at: [url]http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/01/07/ntory07.xml[/url]
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 6:10:04 PM EDT
This is a great example of how well political propaganda works. The elite paess new protective "laws" and the people become more and more: controlled docile helpless dependent ignorant How in the world is it that the people over there don't stand up and scream, "That's enough!" is beyond me. The truth is, they have been well taught to [b]not[/b] think for themsleves. Absolutely unbelieveable. CMOS
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 6:40:16 PM EDT
I was in Europe when that English farmer was sentenced to life in prison for shooting one of the punks that REPEATEDLY broke into his farm with no help from the cops. There were all sorts of debates on CNN Europe about it at the time. Most of the commentators made me want to puke. I'll never go to that friggen country again.
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 1:54:55 AM EDT
How the Brits deal with criminal tresspassers
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Invite them in and offer them tea and crumpets, offer them all of their money and valuable items, and then invite the trespassers to rape their wives. Gotta love England. And: Ban all ravers. For the children.
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 2:52:34 AM EDT
How hard would it be to get some other farmers together and fight those trespassers off with pitchforks? Or put that manure spreader to use.[}:D]
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 3:51:45 AM EDT
don't the anti-leo types like this sort of thing? "the JBTs in england are properly restricted from infringing the rights of the ravers. they should have gotten warrant, etc, so to be sure no 'rights' were violated, etc...."
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 4:10:37 AM EDT
Don't they have dogs in England?
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 4:31:30 AM EDT
1. Throw a rave on your property. 2. Invite the yoots into a kerosene soaked barn for some free Ecstasy 3. Light a match. Problem solved. Of course, kerosene and matches are banned in England. Pussies.
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 5:11:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Major-Murphy: Don't they have dogs in England?
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Yeah, corgies, not a very intimidating breed. Besides, if a property owner let loose a big dog on some trespassers they would be treated the same as somebody who shot the trespassers. Self-defense is not a right in the UK, remember that. My suggestion would be to spread liquified hog shit all over the fields to "fertilize" the ground. The only problem with that is that it takes weeks and inches of rain to get rid of the smell. That would be some intense nasal suffering for anybody who lived near the land. I'm sure that the Nazis in England would find some way to call that illegal and unwarranted as well. In this country you'd hear the eco-Nazis go into a moan about how pig shit aids algae growth, etc, etc. Over in England you'd probably hear about how the smell offends the trespassers nostril sensitivity and is therefore cruel and unusual punishment. The United Kingdom is a fucking Hellhole not worthy of our attention, save for a point and "this is your brain on socialism" eulogy.
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 5:13:08 AM EDT
Avtomat; this story is not about jbt's but about sheeple giving up their right to defend their property and lives. Because of the laws the sheeple have inacted,wanting the gov to take care of them, nothing can be done. This is a story about giving the government all of your rights, and we all know how well the government will take care of us....pat
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 5:20:28 AM EDT
Unbelievable! The Brits are going to have a revolution of their own to cleanse themselves of crap like this. I would like to see this happen in any farm in America.
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 5:31:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Avtomat: don't the anti-leo types like this sort of thing? "the JBTs in england are properly restricted from infringing the rights of the ravers. they should have gotten warrant, etc, so to be sure no 'rights' were violated, etc...."
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No. Because the Euro-JBT's certainly have moved with decisive speed to arrest anyone who dares to take things into their own hands. Notice that they move against the property owners, and not the ravers. The property owners threaten the state's monopoly on force, making them a "threat". Burglars only represent a threat to individual civilians, by this mindset. This is the worst sort of blind, armed Eurobureau tinybrained bullshit. It also shows up in a few liberal controlled Eastern US cities.
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 5:40:42 AM EDT
It is truly unreal that people put up with that crap!!! They are all idiots and deserve what they get for letting it go that far. That is what our liberal democraps want here in the US! Unbelievable!!!!
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 9:52:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Red_Dragon: It is truly unreal that people put up with that crap!!! They are all idiots and deserve what they get for letting it go that far. That is what our liberal democraps want here in the US! Unbelievable!!!!
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I give us 20-50 years before we live in the same society. Unfortunately, that's the direction we're headed in. [(:|)]
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 10:34:32 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PoliticalScience: I give us 20-50 years before we live in the same society. Unfortunately, that's the direction we're headed in. [(:|)]
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than i will not live much past 40-50 years old..
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 12:44:00 PM EDT
I've hated the English for years.Some say there our best allies.I say they know where there next bailout is coming from.Wars over,disarm the people.Next war,say USA we seem to be a bit short of weapons to defend ourselves with.
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 12:52:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By the_survivalist:
Originally Posted By PoliticalScience: I give us 20-50 years before we live in the same society. Unfortunately, that's the direction we're headed in. [(:|)]
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than i will not live much past 40-50 years old..
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What he said. I'd like to see 70 disco "revellers" come onto my property.....[shotgun]. I mean come on, UK people...you have to draw the line in the sand somewhere. The English gov't would fall from a full out revolt in 3 days.
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 1:22:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By PoliticalScience: It's easy: Just arrest the owner of the property. Here are some direct quotes: [b] A Lincolnshire farmer has accused police of failing to stop illegal ravers from taking over his sheds on New Year's Eve. David Benton, of Moorby, said about 70 revellers smashed down his farm gate, drove a lorry-load of disco equipment onto this property and set fire to pallets. He called Lincolnshire Police, who sent two officers, but said ravers could not be evicted because there were fewer than 100 trouble-makers involved. [/b]
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So there's a threshhold on the number of miscreants before the bobbies spring into action? Just send in a few more, and get above the limit - then the bobbies would [b]have[/b] to take action. Of course, by then, they would be out numbered...
Link Posted: 1/10/2002 1:24:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stubbs: I mean come on, UK people...you have to draw the line in the sand somewhere. The English gov't would fall from a full out revolt in 3 days.
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Well, they marginalize a few inidividuals at a time, that way they can slowly socialize people into "utopia". If our government tried to impose this bullshit on U.S. farmers tomorrow, insurrection would happen. But the Brits got to this state over the course of time and legislation. What do you expect from the people that invented the word "wanker". [(:|)]
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