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Posted: 1/24/2015 8:47:52 PM EDT
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Anybody have a solid referral for a reputable HRT/Anti aging clinic that deals with out of state patients? I'm tired of wasting my time with local PC Dr's that just want to push anti depressants.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 10:35:45 PM EDT
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can a med dr from 1 state remotely practice on someone in another state? i hate that things in this country legally are as such that I have to ask, but is this legal?
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Posted: 1/24/2015 10:51:38 PM EDT
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Not without being licensed in that state.
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Posted: 1/24/2015 11:27:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dule1977]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LinkedM4:
can a med dr from 1 state remotely practice on someone in another state? i hate that things in this country legally are as such that I have to ask, but is this legal? http://www.defymedical.com/ Also alot of good info on this forum. http://www.excelmale.com/forum.php |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:05:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE:
Going on about 2 months without clomid and 2 weeks off any HCG my T level was 226. The anti-aging doctor thinks that my borderline insulin resistance is a contributing factor in my T being suppressed. So I'm working on diet changes. They did go ahead and start me on Test C injections though like I wanted. They are starting me out at 80mg a week along with 250iu of HCG EOD. A follow up visit will be 3 months down the road. I was hoping for a higher dose but I'm fine with starting out at this level and seeing how I respond to it. Thanks to whoever posted the link to goodrx.com. The discount code allowed me to get 10ml of Test C from Walgreens for just over $43. Keep us updated on how you feel. 100mg of T and 750iu of HCG only keep me about 600. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:12:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: delicious_bass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmedAndLoaded:
Tagged. 30 years old. Test came back 337, Doctor said it's normal. The little research I've done says otherwise. Normal for an 80 year old man. Do more searching and present your doc with current research found posted in this thread. If he doesn't listen find someone else! Welcome. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 12:49:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By medicmandan:
Not without being licensed in that state. Im pretty sure that varies state by state..... |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 1:26:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EXPY37]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delicious_bass:
Keep us updated on how you feel. 100mg of T and 750iu of HCG only keep me about 600. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By delicious_bass:
Originally Posted By SWIRE:
Going on about 2 months without clomid and 2 weeks off any HCG my T level was 226. The anti-aging doctor thinks that my borderline insulin resistance is a contributing factor in my T being suppressed. So I'm working on diet changes. They did go ahead and start me on Test C injections though like I wanted. They are starting me out at 80mg a week along with 250iu of HCG EOD. A follow up visit will be 3 months down the road. I was hoping for a higher dose but I'm fine with starting out at this level and seeing how I respond to it. Thanks to whoever posted the link to goodrx.com. The discount code allowed me to get 10ml of Test C from Walgreens for just over $43. Keep us updated on how you feel. 100mg of T and 750iu of HCG only keep me about 600. It that your monthly dose? Weekly? ? |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 7:14:06 PM EDT
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On the subcutaneous vs IM issue, after 3.5 days both areas are no longer inflamed or irritated. I can still feel a BB size bump where the subcutaneous injection was. No way to tell if there is one on the leg as it is deep in the muscle. As of right now I don't see why anyone would want to do IM injections. You use/move muscle and you don't move fat. Putting a hole in a muscle and then moving it is going to be felt a lot more. I still need to do a month of each with labs just to see if there is any difference in absorption.
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Posted: 1/25/2015 7:47:43 PM EDT
[#10]
For those guys needing pins, looks like a good price. I can't always make it to cvs and when I send the wife, I end up with the wrong gauge or length. Bulk pricing as well!
link |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 9:36:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EXPY37]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE:
On the subcutaneous vs IM issue, after 3.5 days both areas are no longer inflamed or irritated. I can still feel a BB size bump where the subcutaneous injection was. No way to tell if there is one on the leg as it is deep in the muscle. As of right now I don't see why anyone would want to do IM injections. You use/move muscle and you don't move fat. Putting a hole in a muscle and then moving it is going to be felt a lot more. I still need to do a month of each with labs just to see if there is any difference in absorption. I arbitrarily started doing SQ a year ago and suggested others try it. Fell mostly on deaf ears like most other things. Works very well. Doc doesn't know I do it, the NP said he wouldn't care anyhow. |
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Posted: 1/25/2015 9:38:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pumbaajk:
For those guys needing pins, looks like a good price. I can't always make it to cvs and when I send the wife, I end up with the wrong gauge or length. Bulk pricing as well! link I buy needles, etc, on ebay, at the best $ I can find. If needles are too long, ---like 1 inch when I need 1/2 inch, I cut a needle shroud as a stand off spacer and use that to effectively shorten the needle. [This will likely fall on deaf ears too... 
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Posted: 1/25/2015 11:43:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
I buy needles, etc, on ebay, at the best $ I can find. If needles are too long, ---like 1 inch when I need 1/2 inch, I cut a needle shroud as a stand off spacer and use that to effectively shorten the needle. [This will likely fall on deaf ears too...
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By pumbaajk:
For those guys needing pins, looks like a good price. I can't always make it to cvs and when I send the wife, I end up with the wrong gauge or length. Bulk pricing as well! link I buy needles, etc, on ebay, at the best $ I can find. If needles are too long, ---like 1 inch when I need 1/2 inch, I cut a needle shroud as a stand off spacer and use that to effectively shorten the needle. [This will likely fall on deaf ears too...
Actually no it didn't  . I use a space for delt injections the 1" were too long.
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Posted: 1/26/2015 3:53:27 AM EDT
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That's good to know...
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Posted: 1/26/2015 7:55:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
I buy needles, etc, on ebay, at the best $ I can find. If needles are too long, ---like 1 inch when I need 1/2 inch, I cut a needle shroud as a stand off spacer and use that to effectively shorten the needle. [This will likely fall on deaf ears too...
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By pumbaajk:
For those guys needing pins, looks like a good price. I can't always make it to cvs and when I send the wife, I end up with the wrong gauge or length. Bulk pricing as well! link I buy needles, etc, on ebay, at the best $ I can find. If needles are too long, ---like 1 inch when I need 1/2 inch, I cut a needle shroud as a stand off spacer and use that to effectively shorten the needle. [This will likely fall on deaf ears too...
With me being lazy and all, is it cheaper that the link I posted? 
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Posted: 1/26/2015 2:35:23 PM EDT
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I have a friend who just got tested for Low T, he's 36
Multiple surgeries and on pain meds in the way of 10mg vicodin 3 times a day. His T came back at 280 Doc hasn't called him yet Question, at his age he is probably better off trying clomid first? The opiates def knocked down the T production , will clomid over come the opiates and allow his natural production to rise? I know guys who have bad backs and are taking the same pain med and their T is up there from injections Question is will clomid work while still on pain meds? |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 2:43:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrzy:
I have a friend who just got tested for Low T, he's 36 Multiple surgeries and on pain meds in the way of 10mg vicodin 3 times a day. His T came back at 280 Doc hasn't called him yet Question, at his age he is probably better off trying clomid first? The opiates def knocked down the T production , will clomid over come the opiates and allow his natural production to rise? I know guys who have bad backs and are taking the same pain med and their T is up there from injections Question is will clomid work while still on pain meds? Seriously dude, do you have any friends that are not a local patient at the low t center?
That's best to have your friend do his research. Giving advice for opiate patients is not a good idea. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 3:49:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jrzy]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pumbaajk: Seriously dude, do you have any friends that are not a local patient at the low t center? That's best to have your friend do his research. Giving advice for opiate patients is not a good idea. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pumbaajk: Originally Posted By jrzy: I have a friend who just got tested for Low T, he's 36 Multiple surgeries and on pain meds in the way of 10mg vicodin 3 times a day. His T came back at 280 Doc hasn't called him yet Question, at his age he is probably better off trying clomid first? The opiates def knocked down the T production , will clomid over come the opiates and allow his natural production to rise? I know guys who have bad backs and are taking the same pain med and their T is up there from injections Question is will clomid work while still on pain meds? Seriously dude, do you have any friends that are not a local patient at the low t center? That's best to have your friend do his research. Giving advice for opiate patients is not a good idea. This is not advice it's to find out if clomid will work when a patient takes vicodin for his back? Injectable Test C works and overcomes the opiate, now I am just trying to help him find out if clomid will? |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 3:51:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pumbaajk:
With me being lazy and all, is it cheaper that the link I posted?
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pumbaajk:
Originally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By pumbaajk:
For those guys needing pins, looks like a good price. I can't always make it to cvs and when I send the wife, I end up with the wrong gauge or length. Bulk pricing as well! link I buy needles, etc, on ebay, at the best $ I can find. If needles are too long, ---like 1 inch when I need 1/2 inch, I cut a needle shroud as a stand off spacer and use that to effectively shorten the needle. [This will likely fall on deaf ears too...
With me being lazy and all, is it cheaper that the link I posted?
Sure... |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 3:52:49 PM EDT
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When preparing HCG from powder, does anyone use a "breather" needle in the final vial so you can inject the materials without pressurizing said vial?
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Posted: 1/26/2015 4:09:19 PM EDT
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Just Suck some air out of the bottle before you inject the liquid.
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Posted: 1/26/2015 4:40:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By abacus:
Just Suck some air out of the bottle before you inject the liquid. How much??? 
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Posted: 1/26/2015 4:53:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
How much???
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By abacus:
Just Suck some air out of the bottle before you inject the liquid. How much???
I add water to the vial with the powder. That vial has a negative pressure, so I'm just careful not to let it pull the syringe plunger down on its on. I've always been told you don't want the water to hit the powder directly. I just let the water trickle down the inside of the vial very slowly. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 5:24:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrzy:
How many of your friends have found out about low T because you helped them? This is not advice it's to find out if clomid will work when a patient takes vicodin for his back? Injectable Test C works and overcomes the opiate, now I am just trying to help him find out if clomid will? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrzy:
Originally Posted By pumbaajk:
Originally Posted By jrzy:
I have a friend who just got tested for Low T, he's 36 Multiple surgeries and on pain meds in the way of 10mg vicodin 3 times a day. His T came back at 280 Doc hasn't called him yet Question, at his age he is probably better off trying clomid first? The opiates def knocked down the T production , will clomid over come the opiates and allow his natural production to rise? I know guys who have bad backs and are taking the same pain med and their T is up there from injections Question is will clomid work while still on pain meds? Seriously dude, do you have any friends that are not a local patient at the low t center?
That's best to have your friend do his research. Giving advice for opiate patients is not a good idea. This is not advice it's to find out if clomid will work when a patient takes vicodin for his back? Injectable Test C works and overcomes the opiate, now I am just trying to help him find out if clomid will? I have no friends. I work to much to have friends. With all the hatred for clomid, why subject him to even more problems that come with clomid? He already doesn't feel the best. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 6:20:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jrzy:
This is not advice it's to find out if clomid will work when a patient takes vicodin for his back? Injectable Test C works and overcomes the opiate, now I am just trying to help him find out if clomid will? Having been on clomid and getting ready to roll back to T injections. I can tell you I feel like shit. My T numbers are decent, in the mid 500's, but the water retention and high estrogen issues are a PITA. Surfing the usual sites a lot of guys seem to feel the same way. For others it doesn't work at all. Unless he needs to maintain fertility I wouldn't recommend it. The real question for your buddy is how do opiates impact T, if they suppress normal production elevating his LH and FSH may help but it may not. It really depends on how the opiates work to suppress T. The opiates add a variable to the equation that's going to make it hard to find out what works best. Frankly his pain management doc should be able to help answer these questions. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 6:25:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Having been on clomid and getting ready to roll back to T injections. I can tell you I feel like shit. My T numbers are decent, in the mid 500's, but the water retention and high estrogen issues are a PITA. Surfing the usual sites a lot of guys seem to feel the same way. For others it doesn't work at all. Unless he needs to maintain fertility I wouldn't recommend it. The real question for your buddy is how do opiates impact T, if they suppress normal production elevating his LH and FSH may help but it may not. It really depends on how the opiates work to suppress T. The opiates add a variable to the equation that's going to make it hard to find out what works best. Frankly his pain management doc should be able to help answer these questions. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By jrzy:
This is not advice it's to find out if clomid will work when a patient takes vicodin for his back? Injectable Test C works and overcomes the opiate, now I am just trying to help him find out if clomid will? Having been on clomid and getting ready to roll back to T injections. I can tell you I feel like shit. My T numbers are decent, in the mid 500's, but the water retention and high estrogen issues are a PITA. Surfing the usual sites a lot of guys seem to feel the same way. For others it doesn't work at all. Unless he needs to maintain fertility I wouldn't recommend it. The real question for your buddy is how do opiates impact T, if they suppress normal production elevating his LH and FSH may help but it may not. It really depends on how the opiates work to suppress T. The opiates add a variable to the equation that's going to make it hard to find out what works best. Frankly his pain management doc should be able to help answer these questions. Were you also taking anastrozole? |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 8:04:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By medicmandan:
Were you also taking anastrozole? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By medicmandan:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By jrzy:
This is not advice it's to find out if clomid will work when a patient takes vicodin for his back? Injectable Test C works and overcomes the opiate, now I am just trying to help him find out if clomid will? Having been on clomid and getting ready to roll back to T injections. I can tell you I feel like shit. My T numbers are decent, in the mid 500's, but the water retention and high estrogen issues are a PITA. Surfing the usual sites a lot of guys seem to feel the same way. For others it doesn't work at all. Unless he needs to maintain fertility I wouldn't recommend it. The real question for your buddy is how do opiates impact T, if they suppress normal production elevating his LH and FSH may help but it may not. It really depends on how the opiates work to suppress T. The opiates add a variable to the equation that's going to make it hard to find out what works best. Frankly his pain management doc should be able to help answer these questions. Were you also taking anastrozole? No my levels never really got high enough to warrant it because I over respond to anastrozole. In fact I was experiencing symptoms of low E. Achy joints water retention etc. Incidentally, my peak T on it was 572 at 50mg per day. When I went to 25mg EOD and 50mg EOD it only went down to 543. So with clomid you should probably use the minimum amount you can get away with. I've read of guys using as little as 25mg EOD and getting decent numbers even though quality of life didn't seem all that much better. |
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Posted: 1/26/2015 11:13:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
No my levels never really got high enough to warrant it because I over respond to anastrozole. In fact I was experiencing symptoms of low E. Achy joints water retention etc. Incidentally, my peak T on it was 572 at 50mg per day. When I went to 25mg EOD and 50mg EOD it only went down to 543. So with clomid you should probably use the minimum amount you can get away with. I've read of guys using as little as 25mg EOD and getting decent numbers even though quality of life didn't seem all that much better. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By medicmandan:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By jrzy:
This is not advice it's to find out if clomid will work when a patient takes vicodin for his back? Injectable Test C works and overcomes the opiate, now I am just trying to help him find out if clomid will? Having been on clomid and getting ready to roll back to T injections. I can tell you I feel like shit. My T numbers are decent, in the mid 500's, but the water retention and high estrogen issues are a PITA. Surfing the usual sites a lot of guys seem to feel the same way. For others it doesn't work at all. Unless he needs to maintain fertility I wouldn't recommend it. The real question for your buddy is how do opiates impact T, if they suppress normal production elevating his LH and FSH may help but it may not. It really depends on how the opiates work to suppress T. The opiates add a variable to the equation that's going to make it hard to find out what works best. Frankly his pain management doc should be able to help answer these questions. Were you also taking anastrozole? No my levels never really got high enough to warrant it because I over respond to anastrozole. In fact I was experiencing symptoms of low E. Achy joints water retention etc. Incidentally, my peak T on it was 572 at 50mg per day. When I went to 25mg EOD and 50mg EOD it only went down to 543. So with clomid you should probably use the minimum amount you can get away with. I've read of guys using as little as 25mg EOD and getting decent numbers even though quality of life didn't seem all that much better. I've been well over 600 on 25mg ED of Clomid. All of the bad symptoms of low T have gone away. I don't feel like (Superman, kid again, superstud) but don't suffer from the mental fog, ridiculous fatigue, ED, and so forth. Everyone that I've known that had to start taking opiates for chronic pain got really mentally messed up - as in memory loss, inability to concentrate, short tempered, and constipation. As to why all that occurs, I have no idea. It usually takes a while to get back to normal once they get off the pain meds, too. But I can imagine that opiates mess with lots of the body's normal functions and something like Clomid is more of a minor nudge to a very specific system. I doubt there's been any drug interaction studies on that particular combination so it would be a crapshoot. However, the stuff is pretty cheap. I just got mine refilled, 90 day supply for $10.80. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:50:15 AM EDT
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Anyone have a discount code for privatemdlabs.com? I am wanting to get a baseline right now. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 12:53:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KingOfTheBumps:
Anyone have a discount code for privatemdlabs.com? I am wanting to get a baseline right now. KE97T1 - good until the 31st |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 1:05:49 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
KE97T1 - good until the 31st Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By KingOfTheBumps:
Anyone have a discount code for privatemdlabs.com? I am wanting to get a baseline right now. KE97T1 - good until the 31st Worked great, thanks so much!
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Posted: 1/27/2015 11:55:23 AM EDT
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Getting blood drawn now as i type. CSB
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Posted: 1/27/2015 2:06:52 PM EDT
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Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me!
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Posted: 1/27/2015 3:33:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Oh for fucks sake.... |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:10:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pumbaajk:
Oh for fucks sake.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pumbaajk:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Oh for fucks sake.... I laughed at him. Now I need a referral to go to an endocrinology center and talk to someone who actually knows what is what. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:15:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pumbaajk]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50ttop:
I laughed at him. Now I need a referral to go to an endocrinology center and talk to someone who actually knows what is what. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50ttop:
Originally Posted By pumbaajk:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Oh for fucks sake.... I laughed at him. Now I need a referral to go to an endocrinology center and talk to someone who actually knows what is what. Did you tell him you were not paying for shit service in which he clearly has been one clue what the fuck is going on? |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:22:55 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Hell, that means nearly every pharmacist in America is in deep shit. Future job openings?
What a dumbass. Out of curiosity was he an older guy? |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 4:55:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Hell, that means nearly every pharmacist in America is in deep shit. Future job openings?
What a dumbass. Out of curiosity was he an older guy? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Hell, that means nearly every pharmacist in America is in deep shit. Future job openings?
What a dumbass. Out of curiosity was he an older guy? Yeah, in his mid 60's |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:23:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50ttop:
Yeah, in his mid 60's Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50ttop:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Hell, that means nearly every pharmacist in America is in deep shit. Future job openings?
What a dumbass. Out of curiosity was he an older guy? Yeah, in his mid 60's Not really a surprise there. My first PCP was older and would only due in office injections. Claimed risk of infection was too high. 
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Posted: 1/27/2015 5:28:06 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Not really a surprise there. My first PCP was older and would only due in office injections. Claimed risk of infection was too high. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Hell, that means nearly every pharmacist in America is in deep shit. Future job openings?
What a dumbass. Out of curiosity was he an older guy? Yeah, in his mid 60's Not really a surprise there. My first PCP was older and would only due in office injections. Claimed risk of infection was too high. Just talked to a P.A. friend of mine that was much more willing to listen. I may just send my lab results to him. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:17:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EXPY37]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50ttop:
I laughed at him. Now I need a referral to go to an endocrinology center and talk to someone who actually knows what is what. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 50ttop:
Originally Posted By pumbaajk:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Oh for fucks sake.... I laughed at him. Now I need a referral to go to an endocrinology center and talk to someone who actually knows what is what. Now that's an OXYMORAN if I ever saw one... |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:19:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EXPY37]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Not really a surprise there. My first PCP was older and would only due in office injections. Claimed risk of infection was too high. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Hell, that means nearly every pharmacist in America is in deep shit. Future job openings?
What a dumbass. Out of curiosity was he an older guy? Yeah, in his mid 60's Not really a surprise there. My first PCP was older and would only due in office injections. Claimed risk of infection was too high. His risk of not making as much $$$$ was too high...
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:44:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Now that's an OXYMORAN if I ever saw one... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Originally Posted By pumbaajk:
Originally Posted By 50ttop:
Well, I just had my doctor try to inform me that prescribing testoterone for home injections is illegal.... Fuck me! Oh for fucks sake.... I laughed at him. Now I need a referral to go to an endocrinology center and talk to someone who actually knows what is what. Now that's an OXYMORAN if I ever saw one... No joke. They are pretty much all idiots with a fancy $200k piece of paper on the wall. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:45:56 PM EDT
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Well, started on 1cc of test cyp after a cycle of the pellets.
The pellets worked great for about 3 months, great energy, started losing some belly jelly, arms and shoulders were getting all swole....I was able to really start pushing weight hard in the gym again with quick recovery. Well that didnt last long....I crashed hard about 2 months ago. I couldnt believe how hard I came down.....I couldnt drag my ass outa bed in the morning. The other problem is the pellets cost my $650.00. My insurance covered the procedure, but I had to pay for the pellets. I am not paying $650 every 3 months. So now I have a new doc, started me on test cyp, go back in 3 months to check levels and red blood count and insurance covers the whole thing, doctors visit and test....just not needles but the needles only cost me $14.85 for 3 months worth. The only negative drawback is the berries have shrunk up quite a bit. Like having 10 year old boys balls.......good thing I'm married. The wife unit says big pendulous balls are gross anyways but damn. What are you guys doing about atrophy....dealing with it? |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 7:48:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pumbaajk]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MovinMan:
Well, started on 1cc of test cyp after a cycle of the pellets. The pellets worked great for about 3 months, great energy, started losing some belly jelly, arms and shoulders were getting all swole....I was able to really start pushing weight hard in the gym again with quick recovery. Well that didnt last long....I crashed hard about 2 months ago. I couldnt believe how hard I came down.....I couldnt drag my ass outa bed in the morning. The other problem is the pellets cost my $650.00. My insurance covered the procedure, but I had to pay for the pellets. I am not paying $650 every 3 months. So now I have a new doc, started me on test cyp, go back in 3 months to check levels and red blood count and insurance covers the whole thing, doctors visit and test....just not needles but the needles only cost me $14.85 for 3 months worth. The only negative drawback is the berries have shrunk up quite a bit. Like having 10 year old boys balls.......good thing I'm married. The wife unit says big pendulous balls are gross anyways but damn. What are you guys doing about atrophy....dealing with it? Hcg 500iu 3x week to keep them fullish. That was the ONLY positive to clomid. Balls were like a porn stars and the loads were like hanging onto a fire hose. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:01:51 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MovinMan:
Well, started on 1cc of test cyp after a cycle of the pellets. The pellets worked great for about 3 months, great energy, started losing some belly jelly, arms and shoulders were getting all swole....I was able to really start pushing weight hard in the gym again with quick recovery. Well that didnt last long....I crashed hard about 2 months ago. I couldnt believe how hard I came down.....I couldnt drag my ass outa bed in the morning. The other problem is the pellets cost my $650.00. My insurance covered the procedure, but I had to pay for the pellets. I am not paying $650 every 3 months. So now I have a new doc, started me on test cyp, go back in 3 months to check levels and red blood count and insurance covers the whole thing, doctors visit and test....just not needles but the needles only cost me $14.85 for 3 months worth. The only negative drawback is the berries have shrunk up quite a bit. Like having 10 year old boys balls.......good thing I'm married. The wife unit says big pendulous balls are gross anyways but damn. What are you guys doing about atrophy....dealing with it? The only thing I would to add to Pumba's recommendation is I'd pull blood work at 30 days to monitor things like hematocrit and estradiol. A lot can go wrong in 3 months. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 8:07:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
The only thing I would to add to Pumba's recommendation is I'd pull blood work at 30 days to monitor things like hematocrit and estradiol. A lot can go wrong in 3 months. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By MovinMan:
Well, started on 1cc of test cyp after a cycle of the pellets. The pellets worked great for about 3 months, great energy, started losing some belly jelly, arms and shoulders were getting all swole....I was able to really start pushing weight hard in the gym again with quick recovery. Well that didnt last long....I crashed hard about 2 months ago. I couldnt believe how hard I came down.....I couldnt drag my ass outa bed in the morning. The other problem is the pellets cost my $650.00. My insurance covered the procedure, but I had to pay for the pellets. I am not paying $650 every 3 months. So now I have a new doc, started me on test cyp, go back in 3 months to check levels and red blood count and insurance covers the whole thing, doctors visit and test....just not needles but the needles only cost me $14.85 for 3 months worth. The only negative drawback is the berries have shrunk up quite a bit. Like having 10 year old boys balls.......good thing I'm married. The wife unit says big pendulous balls are gross anyways but damn. What are you guys doing about atrophy....dealing with it? The only thing I would to add to Pumba's recommendation is I'd pull blood work at 30 days to monitor things like hematocrit and estradiol. A lot can go wrong in 3 months. And 1cc is that dosed at 200mg? At that does, estradiol is definitely a factor. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:16:06 PM EDT
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Good advice, I did aromataze while on the pellets, I was taking anastrazol to deal with it, my estradoil got up to 47.
My doc says he has never worked with HCG but he is willing to do some research, is there any literature I can send his way? |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:18:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pumbaajk:
And 1cc is that dosed at 200mg? At that does, estradiol is definitely a factor. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pumbaajk:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By MovinMan:
Well, started on 1cc of test cyp after a cycle of the pellets. The pellets worked great for about 3 months, great energy, started losing some belly jelly, arms and shoulders were getting all swole....I was able to really start pushing weight hard in the gym again with quick recovery. Well that didnt last long....I crashed hard about 2 months ago. I couldnt believe how hard I came down.....I couldnt drag my ass outa bed in the morning. The other problem is the pellets cost my $650.00. My insurance covered the procedure, but I had to pay for the pellets. I am not paying $650 every 3 months. So now I have a new doc, started me on test cyp, go back in 3 months to check levels and red blood count and insurance covers the whole thing, doctors visit and test....just not needles but the needles only cost me $14.85 for 3 months worth. The only negative drawback is the berries have shrunk up quite a bit. Like having 10 year old boys balls.......good thing I'm married. The wife unit says big pendulous balls are gross anyways but damn. What are you guys doing about atrophy....dealing with it? The only thing I would to add to Pumba's recommendation is I'd pull blood work at 30 days to monitor things like hematocrit and estradiol. A lot can go wrong in 3 months. And 1cc is that dosed at 200mg? At that does, estradiol is definitely a factor. Yes, 200mg. While on pellets my levels got to 1050 and I felt great. My doc says 200mg a week I can probably expect levels to be a bit lower but he is not sure. He wants to work into it slowly and see where I end up. |
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Posted: 1/27/2015 9:23:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MovinMan:
Yes, 200mg. While on pellets my levels got to 1050 and I felt great. My doc says 200mg a week I can probably expect levels to be a bit lower but he is not sure. He wants to work into it slowly and see where I end up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MovinMan:
Originally Posted By pumbaajk:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By MovinMan:
Well, started on 1cc of test cyp after a cycle of the pellets. The pellets worked great for about 3 months, great energy, started losing some belly jelly, arms and shoulders were getting all swole....I was able to really start pushing weight hard in the gym again with quick recovery. Well that didnt last long....I crashed hard about 2 months ago. I couldnt believe how hard I came down.....I couldnt drag my ass outa bed in the morning. The other problem is the pellets cost my $650.00. My insurance covered the procedure, but I had to pay for the pellets. I am not paying $650 every 3 months. So now I have a new doc, started me on test cyp, go back in 3 months to check levels and red blood count and insurance covers the whole thing, doctors visit and test....just not needles but the needles only cost me $14.85 for 3 months worth. The only negative drawback is the berries have shrunk up quite a bit. Like having 10 year old boys balls.......good thing I'm married. The wife unit says big pendulous balls are gross anyways but damn. What are you guys doing about atrophy....dealing with it? The only thing I would to add to Pumba's recommendation is I'd pull blood work at 30 days to monitor things like hematocrit and estradiol. A lot can go wrong in 3 months. And 1cc is that dosed at 200mg? At that does, estradiol is definitely a factor. Yes, 200mg. While on pellets my levels got to 1050 and I felt great. My doc says 200mg a week I can probably expect levels to be a bit lower but he is not sure. He wants to work into it slowly and see where I end up. It could be lower or it could be higher. There are so many factors... When I was on 200mg, I was 1164 if I recall and a 42 estradiol. I was living life! Minus the sterility I was having a blast. |
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