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6/21/2017 8:25:40 PM
Posted: 12/20/2001 10:02:13 AM EDT
After the urban survival topic, anyone ever think of a motorcycle to bug out on? I have looked at the Ural, at www.ural.com. THe Patrol version with a sidecar and both rear wheels driving? If they made it 900 cc's I would be taking out a loan. Any thoughts on it, mobility, able to weave around obstacles, carry a few weekes of equipment. Even get a gun mount for the sidecar.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 10:11:17 AM EDT
Not real impressed with the sidecar concept. Personally, I'd chose either a good sport utility ATV (racks can hold a lot, more nimble yet stable) or a big-bore dual-sport bike with a large-capacity fuel tank (maximum agility to negotiate unimproved/destroyed terrain as quickly as possible at the expense of load-carrying capabilities). But that's just me. YMMV [;)]
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 10:25:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2001 10:18:44 AM EDT by Gun-fan]
The Urals are WWII BMW's technology. They are very needy as far as maintenance is concerned. I think if the sidecar was your want, I would get a Velorex and a 650 or so street bike to drag it. You can put a better rear tire on it for dual use if you want. The only thing I would do is find a points ignition bike. For me, a Triumph 650 tiger would be a good candidate.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 10:39:31 AM EDT
If you need to get away in a hurry... [img]http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/mcy/500/01vm_blk_1.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 11:16:46 AM EDT
We'll if you really think you need to a "bug out" vehicle, I'd say you'd probably be better off with a 4 wheeler type and some type of trailer. As mentioned the Ural is basically a 1940's design. I'd hate to have to bet the bank on one thought they would be fun to ride around the other 99.999999999% of the time when the SINHTF. But then again, so is a 4 runner.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 11:19:54 AM EDT
Ever seen those little $4000 make-it-yourself helicopter kits?
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 11:24:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Noname: If you need to get away in a hurry...
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That's nothing. Try this on for size. "When we took it out for a run, the tires started smoking at 175 mph..." Rolls-Royce Allison Turbine power!!! (insert Tim Allen voice here) AH! AH! AAHHH!!!! [img]motorcyclecity.com/images/turbine.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 11:29:58 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SKSBoy: Ever seen those little $4000 make-it-yourself helicopter kits?
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that sounds interesting.. really i was thinking of building an ultralight aircraft. (not legally an airplaine, but a "vehicle capable of leaving the ground") its an interesting concept.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 11:35:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SKSBoy: Ever seen those little $4000 make-it-yourself helicopter kits?
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I picture that toothless fu3k in the Mad Max movie in his helicopter.....
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 12:03:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Gun-fan: The only thing I would do is find a points ignition bike.
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Very good point! (pun intended) The story I heard was if nuclear SHTF An electromagnetic pulse will put us all on foot,and the guy in the 64 Falcon will still be driving.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 12:07:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2001 12:01:06 PM EDT by 9divdoc]
[url]http://www.hondamotorcycle.com/models/2002/index.html?model_number=XR650L[/url] Best of both worlds..street/trail hybrid bout 80% off road and 20% street Comute to work and if the SHTF war/earthquake.TEOTWAWKI etc....... You are good to go....where you gonna go is another story..but if you got a place to go...this should get you there...with or without a road Had to sell mine three years ago for health reasons...wish I hadnt..its a tall bike though..good for at least 6' plus For the EMP scenario put your spare electronics in a FARADAY cage...course you will need one at work and at home and anyplace you dont want to get stranded at.....
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 12:25:47 PM EDT
Keep a saddle and bridle handy. How much gas do you think will be available or how much will you be able to carry? Spare parts? If push comes to shove, you can always eat a pack animal.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 12:46:00 PM EDT
This topic has me thinking of a Paris to Dakar BMW motorcycle. Other than that, a big off-road Yamaha thumper four-stroke would be the ticket.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 12:56:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By punkatomic: This topic has me thinking of a Paris to Dakar BMW motorcycle. Other than that, a big off-road Yamaha thumper four-stroke would be the ticket.
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Kawasaki KLR 650. Tough, cheap, and eay to work on. Lightweight enough at 300 lbs if you get rid of that big black 30 lb breadbox they call a muffler and install a Supertrapp.[;D]
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 12:57:16 PM EDT
One of the Suzuki DR models. If you want to be able to ride two up and travel at fwy speeds then the 650 is it. It is very road worthy, an excellent commuter, and not a bad ride on fire trails. But it is too heavy for serious off road riding. For serious off road use and also some street ridine then go for the 400. Both are one piston 4-stroke bikes and are bullet proof.
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 2:03:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Noname: If you need to get away in a hurry... [img]http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/mcy/500/01vm_blk_1.jpg[/img]
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I always wanted one of those!
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 5:29:26 PM EDT
BMW R1150GS. A bargain at only $14,500. [img]http://www.bmwusacycles.com/images/machine/r1150gs/bike/base_night_black.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 7:16:49 PM EDT
[img]http://www.chuckmasonequip.com/images/ural06.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 7:31:27 PM EDT
[img]http://www.militaryclothing.com//ImgUpload/P_328237_456701.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/20/2001 9:40:19 PM EDT
The ONLY survival motorcycle is a ROKON... Two wheel drive..Power take off kit ..gang reels...plow attachment..log skidder...generator...broadcast spreaders...this is the CJ of motorcycles.The wheels are hollow and sealed allowing the ROKON to float if need be...or can be filled with fuel to increase the range...They run on standard honda or briggs and statton engines that you'd find in any tiller snow thrower heavy lawnmower, some have some have kohler and chrysler engines that are larger...easy to find AND inexpensive to maintain...they dont go fast...but they don't stop for much [url]www.rokon.com[/url] [url]http://www.janes.com/defence/land_forces/news/idr/idr010307_1_n.shtml[/url] NOTHING ELSE EVEN COMES CLOSE
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 3:22:29 PM EDT
Originally Posted By shooterX308: Kawasaki KLR 650. Tough, cheap, and eay to work on. Lightweight enough at 300 lbs if you get rid of that big black 30 lb breadbox they call a muffler and install a Supertrapp.[;D]
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shooterX308, the Army and Marines thought enough of the KLR-650 to adopt it for use. I'll agree .... it's tough, cheap, and easy to work on, but it's one HEAVY SUCKER. And I like it quiet, so the Supertrapp is not an option. I have a KLR-650, it will take me most anywhere I want to go on the planet at reasonable speed. BUT.. I want something "barely street legal" with more power and lighter. Recommendations? DaMan
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 5:10:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2002 5:15:22 PM EDT by Troy]
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 5:35:02 PM EDT
The Honda dirt bike makes more sense than anything else. It will take you just about anywhere.
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 5:52:31 PM EDT
Yeah, the "dirt bike" does make the most sense.EXTREME mobility plus mpg a+.The fat semi-solid tires on those Rokon's AB23's also would be my preference.But if the SHTF a simple pedal dirt bicyle would be almost Ideal.
Link Posted: 1/9/2002 5:56:15 PM EDT
I'd go with a with mid-bore bike, specifically a Yamaha WR426, and add the necesary pieces to make it street legal, myself. It's a better bike offroad due to it's being an MX derivative instead of more of a playbike like the Honda and Kawasaki offerings. [img]http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/mcy/500/02wr426f_blu_1-01.jpg[/img]
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