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Posted: 12/19/2001 10:50:38 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/19/2001 10:45:07 AM EST by BenDover]
Okay... a newbie posts a negative review about a much anticipated movie. Their opinion and complete entitlement. Newbie gets jumped on but rather than the issue being the review itself, it is all over the fact that they only have 4 posts. Newbie defends self in thread. Moderator locks thread with scolding. I don't get it. It was just the guys opinion. Other members jumped on his low post count and user ID as a means to discredit their less than glowing review of a highly anticipated movie. They have every right to defend themselves w/o being scolded and locked. If you ask me, this ad hominim tactic closely resembles the very same tactics used by anti-gunners and liberal democrats when they don't have any valid defense or argument. They just get personal and then seek to cut off the source. BOOOOO HISSSSS I motion to dismiss this locking. Let the review stand and let the member defend themselves. EDITED TO ADD: It seems that while I was drafting this, the entire thread was simply deleted. I got to tell you guys that I am starting to really wonder about this site and wonder if some of the complaints aren't actually valid.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 10:52:34 AM EST
i think it was locked, because our hobbit friend used "dirty words" in his review.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 10:56:30 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:04:27 AM EST
Okay, I concede that the member used a couple of baddies but no worse than many many many other posts and threads that get by. If the cursing is the basis for the lock then so be it. If there is any other basis then I stand by my original protest.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:17:39 AM EST
Ben, email me and I think I can put some of your concerns to rest.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:19:56 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:20:21 AM EST
first of all, that post deserved to get deleted based on obnoxious stupidity alone. secondly, I talked to a friend who saw the movie at the premier in NYC, and he said it was very, very good.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:23:01 AM EST
Can you link that thread. The "Hobo" line sounds like a hoot. People take this stuff too damn seriously. I thought the gay hobbit thread was funny as hell too. Scott
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:23:16 AM EST
DonR:- I sent you an IM. GB:- I can accept what you have stated. Leaving that aside, it did appear the thread was locked because of an unpopular opinion. I know a lot of guys here (myself included) are looking very forward to the movie. But a crab apple review is still fair game. Since you point out the foul language and the spam, I repeat my acceptance.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:26:04 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:29:19 AM EST
I guess I am the newbie jumper oner... My whole point of my post was, the fact that this newbie jumped right into the GD for posting. I was questioning his interest in firearms what so ever. If you search his posts he only had one firearm related post and it was rather lame. I could be wrong however it smells to me like this is a banned former poster. Oh and what a co-inkydince that his handle was shirer!! This was supposed to be his surname... However damning a film where people living in the shire and picking Shirer as a handle? Heck I was a newbie just a year ago.....so I have no wish to "jump on one" for their opinion... BUT THIS SMELLED LIKE TROLL!!
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:32:21 AM EST
Gee, Thanks Mike. [:(]
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 11:36:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 2:19:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By BenDover: Okay, I concede that the member used a couple of baddies but no worse than many many many other posts and threads that get by. If the cursing is the basis for the lock then so be it. If there is any other basis then I stand by my original protest.
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You said in your original post:
[I] If you ask me, this ad hominim tactic closely resembles the very same tactics used by anti-gunners and liberal democrats when they don't have any valid defense or argument. They just get personal and then seek to cut off the source.[/I]
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Actually in my opinion you follow the Anti-gunner liberal Democrat approach more. You did not know the truth, did not care about the truth, you just made wild accusations. There is a great opportunity with this generation for communication and to find out the TRUTH yet often people take the easy way out and make wild accusations without even bothering. Just make the accusation, the target (or victim) of the accusation now has to prove they are innocent of something you were not even sure of in the first place. OH, well no sweat off my back. -Velveeta
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:31:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By Velveeta:
Originally Posted By BenDover: Okay, I concede that the member used a couple of baddies but no worse than many many many other posts and threads that get by. If the cursing is the basis for the lock then so be it. If there is any other basis then I stand by my original protest.
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You said in your original post:
[I] If you ask me, this ad hominim tactic closely resembles the very same tactics used by anti-gunners and liberal democrats when they don't have any valid defense or argument. They just get personal and then seek to cut off the source.[/I]
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Actually in my opinion you follow the Anti-gunner liberal Democrat approach more. You did not know the truth, did not care about the truth, you just made wild accusations. There is a great opportunity with this generation for communication and to find out the TRUTH yet often people take the easy way out and make wild accusations without even bothering. Just make the accusation, the target (or victim) of the accusation now has to prove they are innocent of something you were not even sure of in the first place. OH, well no sweat off my back. -Velveeta
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How did I not know the truth? I read verbatim every single post in the now deleted thread. You sir, cannot know the truth because the thread is now deleted. The confusion comes into play when it appears there exists a double standard for off-color language. Sometimes it gets a spank and other times it doesn't. The thread indeed had the complete and total appearance of a moderator lock due to unpopular opinion. Talk about an opportunity to learn something about wild accusations...
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 3:33:46 PM EST
All I know is, anyone who didn't like that movie is so far beyond help that merely locking their threads isn't going to do any good.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 4:04:47 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 4:15:02 PM EST
Hey, I think the "Instead of paying seven dollars to see this pile of sh*t, give the money to a hobo to kick you in the nuts." was pretty descriptive. If getting kicked in the nuts would be better than seeing a certain movie, it would definately make me think twice about going to see it![BD]
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 4:17:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By BenDover: How did I not know the truth? I read verbatim every single post in the now deleted thread. You sir, cannot know the truth because the thread is now deleted.
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So you are saying I could not and did not read it when it was still public? How do you know that? OH, that is right the truth does not matter to you!
The confusion comes into play when it appears there exists a double standard for off-color language. Sometimes it gets a spank and other times it doesn't.
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Yeah, that sucks. Of course lots of things in life are double standards. I am sure I have some and you probably have some as well. Just because there is a double standard does not mean it is wrong or evil. It just is.
The thread indeed had the complete and total appearance of a moderator lock due to unpopular opinion.
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So because something APPEARS a certain way makes it so? Why not take it private? Why not get the TRUTH? OH, it appeared such a way to YOU so it must be true.
Talk about an opportunity to learn something about wild accusations...
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Yeah, I have taken this opportunity to learn more about the daily wild accusations on AR15.com. Thanks for the refresher. -Velveeta
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 4:25:46 PM EST
Hmmm can't seem to find the thread....was it deleted? Can someone post a link. I'd like to see what this guy thought of the movie and what all the fuzz is about.
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 4:34:29 PM EST
LT, do I look like I'm in a good mood tonight?? [:D]
Link Posted: 12/19/2001 4:34:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By Velveeta: So you are saying I could not and did not read it when it was still public? How do you know that? OH, that is right the truth does not matter to you!
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I agree that you could have read it from the beginning. You will not get an argument from me on this.
Yeah, that sucks. Of course lots of things in life are double standards. I am sure I have some and you probably have some as well. Just because there is a double standard does not mean it is wrong or evil. It just is.
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Actually, I strive to not have double standards as I belive hipocracy is evil. If I recognize that I am wrong, then I admit that I am wrong. I believe that I have demonstrated this attribute several times already in this very thread.
So because something APPEARS a certain way makes it so? Why not take it private? Why not get the TRUTH? OH, it appeared such a way to YOU so it must be true.
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Truth is subjective and rooted in an individual's unique perspective. I believe that you were referring to 'fact'. 'Fact' is a different concept than truth. How I choose to deal with a situation which in my perspective appears to be 'truth' is entirely my decision to make. Thanks for the input though.
Yeah, I have taken this opportunity to learn more about the daily wild accusations on AR15.com. Thanks for the refresher.
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Oh yeah... one more thing... since I have actually spoken by phone to a moderator tonight I actually do know the FACTS.
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