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It's pretty much a two horse race now, between McCain and Romney for GOP, and Hillary and Obama for Dems. Who will be the VP selection, though. It probably won't be the loser of the two in both parties, since neither "balance" the other.

The strategic choice for GOP would be Condi Rice, since she'd add foreign policy experience to the ticket, and she'd put the Democrats in a pretzel since both Hillary and Obama have played race and sex cards against each other already. Condi can throw it right back at whoever Dem nominated. Fred Thompson looks dour and uninspired, and Giuliani is just an one-trick pony that's played out.

As for Dem, maybe Edward, but he reminds me too much of Dan Quayle and would be an odd fit with either one, and might be considered a jinx as he ran as VP on the losing team last time. Hillary is not one to share the limelight, and Bill Clinton as VP would be treated as a joke. Perhaps Patrick Kennedy, but only with Obama as Hillary will most likely hold a grudge against Ted Kennedy for endorsing Obama. Or not.
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Fred for the GOP.

He shores up the right on the ticket.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:05:19 AM
Obama will pick an older guy, like Dodd.

Clinton might pick Richardson

McCain might pick FDT (Maybe, who really knows)

Romney might pick the Huck.

Those are the predictions that I took 10 seconds to think up.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:06:34 AM
Giuliani with McCain.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:09:34 AM
I have to vote in our primary today.

How fucking depressing.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:13:01 AM
Clinton will take Obama. She'll lose the black vote without him.

The Republican side? No idea.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:15:26 AM

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:
Clinton will take Obama.


wow, I don't see that happening
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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:18:10 AM
McCain/Thompson.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:28:32 AM

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:
Clinton will take Obama.


wow, I don't see that happening


She'll have to. Without him she'll lose the black vote. Granted, no one else will get it, but when Bill won he got 90% of the black vote. Without it she could very well be in trouble.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:31:20 AM

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:
Clinton will take Obama.


wow, I don't see that happening


She'll have to. Without him she'll lose the black vote. Granted, no one else will get it, but when Bill won he got 90% of the black vote. Without it she could very well be in trouble.


I just don't see obama playing step and fetch it for bill and hillary
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Posted: 1/29/2008 3:44:49 AM
It won't be Thompson.

I think I was probably the first person to predict a McCain/Thompson ticket on arfcom almost a year ago and I'm certain it's not going to happen.

If it was being contemplated there would be an endorsement by now, FL is too critical, and too close, not to take advantage of the bump McCain would get from such an endorsement.

I think Romney likes Sanford, the governor of SC. The Gov. of AK would make a good VP for any of the Rs. I don't know if Rice is too damaged by her association with the current administration, probably.

I heard today Obama likes Edwards for AG, so he must have someone else in mind for VP. I do think it's possible the factions will be so entrenched Clinton/Obama have no choice but to team up either way.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 5:33:14 AM

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McCain/Thompson.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 6:01:44 AM
Romney will pick Huckabee

Clinton will pick Richardson


McCain and Osbama I have no clue.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 6:03:50 AM

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:
Clinton will take Obama.


wow, I don't see that happening


She'll have to. Without him she'll lose the black vote. Granted, no one else will get it, but when Bill won he got 90% of the black vote. Without it she could very well be in trouble.


Nah. The Ds will get the black vote even if they campaign wearing a white pointy cap.

Clinton will not pick osbama. There is going to be some bad blood there when it is finished.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 6:34:21 AM

Originally Posted By sherrick13:

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:
Clinton will take Obama.


wow, I don't see that happening


She'll have to. Without him she'll lose the black vote. Granted, no one else will get it, but when Bill won he got 90% of the black vote. Without it she could very well be in trouble.


Nah. The Ds will get the black vote even if they campaign wearing a white pointy cap.

Clinton will not pick osbama. There is going to be some bad blood there when it is finished.


You don't know Hillary then. It will be Obama as her VP if she's nominated. Not necessarily so the other way areound. On the GOP side if it's McCain I say he'll give the nod to Huckabee. Shores up the Evangelical crowd and McCain thinks Huckabee appeases GOP Conservatives.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 6:53:50 AM
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Originally Posted By MakemineanRRA:

Originally Posted By sherrick13:

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:
Clinton will take Obama.


wow, I don't see that happening


She'll have to. Without him she'll lose the black vote. Granted, no one else will get it, but when Bill won he got 90% of the black vote. Without it she could very well be in trouble.


Nah. The Ds will get the black vote even if they campaign wearing a white pointy cap.

Clinton will not pick osbama. There is going to be some bad blood there when it is finished.


You don't know Hillary then. It will be Obama as her VP if she's nominated. Not necessarily so the other way areound. On the GOP side if it's McCain I say he'll give the nod to Huckabee. Shores up the Evangelical crowd and McCain thinks Huckabee appeases GOP Conservatives.


I think I understand the beast quite well. I disagree.

And McCain is pyscho. I wouldn't put it past him to try to pick a "moderate" democrap.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 7:56:21 AM
Way too soon to tell. Often it's somebody you've never expected.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 7:57:51 AM

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:
Clinton will take Obama. She'll lose the black vote without him . . .


Nope. Ain't going to happen. She might choose a black, but it won't be Obama.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 8:02:02 AM
Martin O'Malley, Governor of Maryland, is supposed to be the golden boy for the Hillary camp.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 8:15:14 AM
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There is zero chance of a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket.

They have slung too much mud at each other to ever team up. Anything disparaging that one has ever said about or to the other will be used as ammunition against them both. Plus, everyone will know their newfound "friendship" would be an act.

Another thing is that Democrats haven't won in a long time without a Southerner on the ticket.

The last time was Roosevelt/Wallace in the 30s. And that was an incumbent President who was elected originally with a Southern VP. You've got to go back to Woodrow Wilson for the next one.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 8:24:12 AM

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Fred for the GOP.

He shores up the right on the ticket.




That was my thought too - especially if McCain wins the nomination as they are reportedly good friends.




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Posted: 1/29/2008 8:25:19 AM
I'd love to see Romney pick Ron Paul.
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And of course we all know who Huck would pick.........






CHUCK NORRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


cuz I think we all know Chuck would give the DNC a round house kick to their head...
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Posted: 1/29/2008 8:26:58 AM

Originally Posted By Special-K:

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Fred for the GOP. He shores up the right on the ticket.


That was my thought too - especially if McCain wins the nomination as they are reportedly good friends.


If it wasn't for the fact that McCain needs a younger VP to offset his age, I would agree. It's still possible, but they risk getting called the "Old Fart" ticket.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 8:30:20 AM
Typically the VP is used to bring in a set of demographics that the Pres candidate can't get by himself.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 10:07:06 AM
Aww shit, I know I'm gonna get flamed for this one . . .

If McCain wins the nomination, look for him to give Joe Lieberman some major consideration for the VP slot.

A lot of people in this country (and ARFCOM is NOT representative of the US electorate) is non-partisan in nature. Every candidate is talking change and ways to reach across the aisle to the other party. Lieberman is a centrist, who bucked his own party and had to run as an independent.


He's also a close friend of McCain, has endorsed him and campaigns for him.

It may not be him, but he'll at least get a close look.

Also, every major republican candidate has floated his name as a potential cabinet secretary.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 11:13:48 AM
McCain/Lieberman

Huckabee/Thompson

Romney/Trent Lott
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Posted: 1/29/2008 11:35:19 AM
If Obama gets the nod, I will not be surprised to see Tom Daschle as his running mate.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 11:39:42 AM

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If Obama gets the nod, I will not be surprised to see Tom Daschle as his running mate.


There's a name I haven't heard in a while...
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Posted: 1/29/2008 11:48:41 AM
It doesn't have to be someone who has run in the primaries.

I'd love to see JC Watts as the VP candidate.

Perhaps McCain/Watts or Romney/Watts. Such a solid conservative as the running mate would make a RINO-ish presidential candidate a little more palatable.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 11:55:28 AM

Originally Posted By david_g17:

Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
If Obama gets the nod, I will not be surprised to see Tom Daschle as his running mate.


There's a name I haven't heard in a while...


Yep ! Tom Daschle is still a viable and lethal member of the Democratic party, though he is pretty much the driving force behind Obama's campaign, he remains under the radar. I fear him more than I fear Obama or Hillary.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 11:57:37 AM
Clinton/Biden

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Posted: 1/29/2008 11:58:35 AM
I don't know who the Rep. nominee would pick, but I'd be shocked if it was Condi Rice or anyone else affiliated with Bush. Such a selection would give the Dems too much ammunition to argue that electing that ticket would just be a continuation of the last 8 years.

Although I'd love to see JC Watts as a VP pick, I'd worry about how that would be perceived if Obama was the Dem's nominee. I think it'd look like the Rep.'s were desperately pandering to the black voters.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 11:59:31 AM
If it is Ron Paul he has mentioned Andrew Napolitano and Walter Williams.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 12:03:22 PM

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If it is Ron Paul he has mentioned Andrew Napolitano and Walter Williams.


hmmm

I guess I'd better figure out who my running mate will be.

you know.....just in case.
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Obama will choose Al Sharpton, that way no one will try to shoot him.

Too early to talk about VP's, especially when we don't know the nominees.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 12:27:24 PM

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
Fred for the GOP.

He shores up the right on the ticket.


I hope you are correct.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 12:29:34 PM
Gov Kathleen Sebelius of Kansas is definitely being considered, else she probably wouldn't have been the rebuttal for the State of the Union speech by the Dimocrats last night.
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McCain could choose Feingold for a "1st Amendment Destruction Commemorative Ticket". Or alternatively, perhaps Vicente Fox for "The Amnesty Ticket". Or even Don Reigle for the "Keating 5 Ticket". Plenty of possibilities here.

Romney could choose Kennedy for a "ALL Massachussets Socialist Ticket".

Giuliani could pick Schumer for the "ALL NY Gun Control Ticket".

Huckabee could pick Paul Crouch for "The TBN Evangelical Theocracy Ticket'.


Why bother with trying to fit into that restrictive "Republican" mold anymore, anyway?

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I gotta vote today and I hate all these shitty bastards!!!


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Posted: 1/29/2008 1:08:37 PM

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Romney might pick the Huck.


Hell, no. Never happen.
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Originally Posted By Zaphod:

Originally Posted By Kalahnikid:
Romney might pick the Huck.


Hell, no. Never happen.


Agreed.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 1:10:29 PM

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:
Clinton will take Obama. She'll lose the black vote without him.


I think she'll lose it (or better yet, HAS lost it) already.

The fact is, if she wins the nomination, blacks will freak, especially in light of Bill's antics. If she picks Obama, she will be seen as a panderer, and that won't sit well with many blacks or moderates.

This, of course, assumes brains among those voting for the Dems.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 1:12:17 PM

Originally Posted By Jrock82:
Giuliani with McCain.


Sadly, I can see that.

I'm expecting McCain/Huckabee... but who knows.


Originally Posted By Billmanweh:

Originally Posted By Klarkatoo:
Clinton will take Obama.


wow, I don't see that happening


That would have been the smart choice for them... but they're both too arrogant to work together. Hillary's mud slinging has pretty much closed the door on that possibility. Thanks God the Dems are so polar and divided in this race for the POTUS... it gives a small ray of hope that they might just fuck it all up.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 1:12:57 PM

Originally Posted By jrkarp:
I'd love to see JC Watts as the VP candidate.

Perhaps McCain/Watts or Romney/Watts. Such a solid conservative as the running mate would make a RINO-ish presidential candidate a little more palatable.


AMEN!

I was just thinking of that last night. Watts would be an AWESOME pick!
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Originally Posted By NoVaGator:
Clinton/Biden



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I don't know who the Rep. nominee would pick, but I'd be shocked if it was Condi Rice or anyone else affiliated with Bush.

so true (as much as i'd love to see her up there)! what about colin powell? he's a soft mushy republican which will appeal to those in the center and he's black which will appeal to independents and centrist democrats who may see hillary/obama as too far to the loony left.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 1:40:30 PM

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what about colin powell?


Now there's a good choice. He can disengage the ticket from the current administration in general and war in Iraq in particular, while still be strong on security issues. Plus he will make Obama look like a little kid.
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Posted: 1/29/2008 1:44:31 PM

Originally Posted By Javak:

Originally Posted By PogueMahone:
what about colin powell?


Now there's a good choice. He can disengage the ticket from the current administration in general and war in Iraq in particular, while still be strong on security issues.


How do you figure?

He's brought up by the moonbats as having lied for Bush to the UN.

Besides, don't we have ENOUGH RINO running in this election?
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Posted: 1/29/2008 1:44:34 PM
Republicans can't pick a black running mate because they'll get slammed for picking them just on the basis of race to make up for Osama.



I wouldn't be surprised at all by a Clinton/Obama ticket. They both crave power enough to sell their souls for it. They would have no problem eating shit and eating crow to make it happen.

They could sell it as a great coming together for the good of the country. "Hey look, we put our differences aside to serve you!"

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Posted: 1/29/2008 1:47:32 PM

Originally Posted By MrMojoRising:
I wouldn't be surprised at all by a Clinton/Obama ticket. They both crave power enough to sell their souls for it. They would have no problem eating shit and eating crow to make it happen.


I used to think that, but I believe you underestimate how much they hate each other.

FWIW, Fred is holding out for a Cabinet position (hence no endorsement for any specific candidate).
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