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Posted: 9/23/2001 8:00:47 PM EST
IS THIS REALLY A GOOD FIGHTING CALIBER? I HAVE A BUSHMASTER BUT FOR COMBAT I WOULD USE MY FAL OR AK---
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 8:04:03 PM EST
Gee....I'm not sure about that unproven .223 stuff myself. I've been thinking about telling the U.S. military that they've been using the wrong bullets for over 35 years. I can't believe I'm actually responding to this thread. Yeah, the AK's and FAL's work too.
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 8:08:38 PM EST
I KNOW WHAT YOUR SAYING M4 BUT I HAVE HEARD ALOT OF DIFFERENT VIEWS FROM PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE MILITARY THAT IT WAS TOO SMALL --DIDNT MEAN TOO MAKE YOU ALL BUTT HERT M4
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 8:09:22 PM EST
The AK makes alot more noise and more recoil while providing not much more penetration. You decide ?
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 8:11:23 PM EST
LOL, listen. We could argue for weeks about caliber, JHP vs. FMJ, etc. It's shot placement that counts.
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 9:42:11 PM EST
Originally Posted By shovelhead69: --DIDNT MEAN TOO MAKE YOU ALL BUTT HERT M4
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A) In this context it's "to", not "too". B) The correct spelling is "hurt", not "hert". C) "DIDNT MEAN TOO MAKE YOU ALL BUTT HERT M4" ...what the f@ck does that mean exactly? D) Disregard item "C".....I don't really care.
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 10:13:11 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 10:33:14 PM EST
shovelhead69, To the far left of your keyboard si a button labeled "Caps Lock". If you press this button once then all your post will not come across as yelling. BTW, yes the AK and FAL is a good battle rifle. So is the M1A, SKS, Enfield, Ruger 10/22, Marlin .22, Savage 110, M1 Carbine, AK74, K98, any Mauser, Mosin Nagant M44, Browning BAR, 700PSS, Winchester '94,Mossburg shotgun Springfield '03, Barrett light .50, AR10, FN-49, Remington Slug gun,...and of course The Brown Bess musket rifle. If you really want to be prepared you should buy one of each of these, that way in every situation you will be prepared. Or you can just take the one you shoot best. sgtar15 PS Now if you want to talk about which pistol to get.....
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 10:50:32 PM EST
It isn't a very good round. 5.56 is much better because it is 5.337 bigger than .223.
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 10:51:42 PM EST
Basically it depends on a whole lot of factors, including what you're comfortable with. These are tools .. for a lot of things .223 is great, just like other calibers. For some things it's not so great. Yes it's a good fighting caliber. Some of the things that come to mind are 'material penetration', 'poor or accurate follow shots', 'armor penetration', 'range', etc. You tell us what charateristics specifically you want, and we'll try and suggest something if you want. Otherwise, yes .223 is a good 'FIGHTING CALIBER' end of thread ( yeah right haha ).
Link Posted: 9/23/2001 11:46:54 PM EST
I used to do a lot of shooting with an ex- Royal Marine. On his last tour his job was chasing heroin smugglers in Indonesia or Malaysia. He gave me the three secrest of winning a gunfight: 1) Bring a gun 2)Speed is fine, accuracy final 3) The winner is not who shoots first, but who gets the first hit. Get that part right and caliber becomes secondary. BTW, he made a living carrying a FAL and now shoot's AR15's and M16's as first choice. Go figure...
Link Posted: 9/24/2001 1:21:12 PM EST
Originally Posted By M4:
Originally Posted By shovelhead69: --DIDNT MEAN TOO MAKE YOU ALL BUTT HERT M4
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A) In this context it's "to", not "too". B) The correct spelling is "hurt", not "hert". C) "DIDNT MEAN TOO MAKE YOU ALL BUTT HERT M4" ...what the f@ck does that mean exactly? D) Disregard item "C".....I don't really care.
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A mind is a terrible thing!
Link Posted: 9/24/2001 1:28:54 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/24/2001 1:30:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By Imbroglio: It isn't a very good round. 5.56 is much better because it is 5.337 bigger than .223.
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[:D]
Link Posted: 9/24/2001 1:35:59 PM EST
I'm taking my single shot 22lr into combat. You wussies can have your .223 and 5.56, I'm man enough to handle a 22 long rifle! Thats 98 times bigger than a .223, and 44 times bigger than a 50 cal! Plus my ammo is $8 for a box of 500... beat that!
Link Posted: 9/24/2001 1:45:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2001 1:45:53 PM EST by platform389]
Originally Posted By Paul: The .223 has killed dead plenty around the world. or THE .232 KILED DED PLNTY AROND TEH WOLD. The .308 of the FAL would be a much better choice than the 7.62 x 39 of your AK but then you knew (NEW) that too (TWO) didn't you (U).
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Bad Bad Man [:P]
Link Posted: 9/24/2001 1:56:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/24/2001 1:56:05 PM EST by propguy]
Originally Posted By platform389:
Originally Posted By Paul: The .223 has killed dead plenty around the world. or THE .232 KILED DED PLNTY AROND TEH WOLD. The .308 of the FAL would be a much better choice than the 7.62 x 39 of your AK but then you knew (NEW) that too (TWO) didn't you (U).
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Bad Bad Man [:P]
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I gotta log in to respond WAHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAH !!! pg out[):)]
Link Posted: 9/24/2001 2:31:45 PM EST
Originally Posted By Monel_Funkawitz: I'm taking my single shot 22lr into combat. You wussies can have your .223 and 5.56, I'm man enough to handle a 22 long rifle! Thats 98 times bigger than a .223, and 44 times bigger than a 50 cal! Plus my ammo is $8 for a box of 500... beat that!
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Ummm, Monel... It's .22LR, thereby making it .003 LESS than .223. [;)]
Link Posted: 9/24/2001 2:33:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By sgtar15: BTW, yes the AK and FAL is a good battle rifle. So is the M1A, SKS, Enfield, Ruger 10/22, Marlin .22, Savage 110, M1 Carbine, AK74, K98, any Mauser, Mosin Nagant M44, Browning BAR, 700PSS, Winchester '94,Mossburg shotgun Springfield '03, Barrett light .50, AR10, FN-49, Remington Slug gun,...and of course The Brown Bess musket rifle. If you really want to be prepared you should buy one of each of these, that way in every situation you will be prepared.
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Hey sgtar15 - why the AK47 ommission? I mean WHY THE AK47 OMISSION?
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