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Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:42:59 AM EDT
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Are you sure they haven't already, and it performed like most other Russian technology?
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:48:46 AM EDT
[#2]
Never
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:50:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By The_Master_Shake:
No point in dropping a tac nuke when you've spent the last year taking new cities.

If Ukraine turns this around and starts to push into 2014 territory then the conversation is on the table
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There is no distinction in Putin or the Russian nationalists between pre war and current Russian territory.

It is all the same.

Kherson was declared to be Russian after a sham vote and the ink had barely dried before surovikin and his gang of vdv thugs fled across the river.

Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:50:37 AM EDT
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I think it more likely they would first detonate one in an underground test.  They could also get a proxy country, ie N Korea, to test one for them.  A proxy country test would provide further distraction and destabilization in the West.

A nuke is space seems to be the poison pill threat.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:52:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wspe1:
So sick of hearing about Ukraine. It's a Russian problem. You know something is up when all the democrats support something.
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Especially a war.

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Link Posted: 5/8/2024 8:58:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR:
There will be a peace treaty 2 months after Trump takes office.  FJB wants this shit to drag on because it is making his friends rich.
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This.
Putin is waiting on Trump to return so that a real negotiator is in the White House. Trump is most likely pissed at Ukraine for backstabbing him in that 2nd impeachment that he will divide Ukraine east|west on the Dnieper River just to end the war & phuque over little Z boy.


#NotMyFlag
#NotMyWar
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:00:45 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DaveM4K:
That is not how it is going to go down and everyone should know that by now. France, Poland, and the USA are never going to allow russia to take ukraine.  France has already shown its hand and the 500 advisors we sent in April are just the start.
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I'm old enough to remember that is how JFK got us dragged into Viet Nam.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:03:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SnoGoRider:
When will Russia drop it's first small Nuke in Ukraine?
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its

Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:12:49 AM EDT
[#9]
Just before our November elections. US rallies behind a "wartime" "president" to re-elect him. Allowing the feeble-minded American response to be nothing but yelling at clouds from the pedo in chief and a few more billions in aid to buy ATACMS ans 155 shells.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:15:39 AM EDT
[#10]
Never.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:20:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SnoGoRider:

How many acres are fucked up already with other munitons in the farm fields?
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No big deal.  After the conflict even if nuclear Ukraine will grow grain again and it will be sold knowingly to China and India who will resell it to unsuspecting parties despite residual toxicity.   Ideally they both buy the tainted crops and sell it to each other., but most likely will get dumped on the 3rd world.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:22:46 AM EDT
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Not this shit again


It gets sooo
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:25:36 AM EDT
[#13]
I personally expected an EMP to be deployed before now to burn out NATO satellites
That was back when Russia pulled back to their current lines.
After on gets lit off we will see where NATO stands on escalation.
Game theory from the “ Proud Profit” wargame exercise says once it's out of the bottle nobody wins.
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Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:26:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gelandewagen:
Russia Nukes Ukraine, Poland marches on Moscow right after the US obliterates all of Russia's Navy and Air Force.
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You willing to take a chance on that ? I’m not sure how many nukes Russia has but I know it’s close to what we have .’
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:30:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Windustsearch:
Why would they nuke something they want?
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if they use nukes it will tactical nukes for tactical reasons. not tsar bombas.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:34:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vern1968:
Maybe they start off with a little suitcase one to see how it goes over.
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A decapitation strike, then take the whole thing.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:39:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Windustsearch:
Why would they nuke something they want?
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Why do they completely obliterate every square inch of land they 'liberate'?

Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:43:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vern1968:
Maybe they start off with a little suitcase one to see how it goes over.
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@Vern1968

I’m a tad surprised that they haven’t already popped off a small tactical in a remote area of Ukraine to show they really give zero F’s to world opinion.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:44:37 AM EDT
[#19]
Never.

Putin is, above all, a survivor. His cronies would help him out a high window before following that self-destructive order.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 9:45:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Gelandewagen:
Russia Nukes Ukraine, Poland marches on Moscow right after the US obliterates all of Russia's Navy and Air Force.
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LOFL    where do they find you guys?
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:44:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wganz:

This.
Putin is waiting on Trump to return so that a real negotiator is in the White House. Trump is most likely pissed at Ukraine for backstabbing him in that 2nd impeachment that he will divide Ukraine east|west on the Dnieper River just to end the war & phuque over little Z boy.


#NotMyFlag
#NotMyWar
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Where do guys come up with this stupid shit?

Trump will likely give the Ukrainians long range cruise missiles.

What peace deal? Ukraine gives up more territory to satisfy Russia's new official territorial claims and Russia let's Ukraine join NATO and have a US Division based out of Kiev?




Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:49:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cranberry1:

You willing to take a chance on that ? I’m not sure how many nukes Russia has but I know it’s close to what we have .’
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So just let them lob nukes around willy nilly?

Russia gets away with it how long before Iran, Pakistan, China, India etc  think they can get away with it?

Deterrence works both ways. Russia needs to feel threatened as well.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 10:52:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sharkman74:

LOFL    where do they find you guys?
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Where do they find "you guys" thinking Russia is going to launch suitcase nukes to "prove a point".

Why do you think the rest of the world would be okay with that?
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 11:45:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Windustsearch:
Why would they nuke something they want?
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The old "If I can't have it, neither will you" mindset.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 11:50:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By wspe1:
So sick of hearing about Ukraine. It's a Russian problem. You know something is up when all the democrats support something.
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Democrats are heavily tied in with the Chinese. By focusig Americans' attention on the old USSR commie bugaboo, they protect and hide their own interests and malfeasance.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 12:00:55 PM EDT
[#26]
Doubt it will happen.

Even Vlad isnt that dumb
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 12:15:55 PM EDT
[#27]
Nobody wants to open that bottle.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 12:33:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Not sure, I cannot remember what the consensus was from the last time we did this thread.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 12:38:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Positronic:
Won't be Russia opens the can..
seems more likely it'll be  a  moslem .
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I don't see what Russia has to gain from such a move, only what they have to lose.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 12:53:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wganz:

This.
Putin is waiting on Trump to return so that a real negotiator is in the White House. Trump is most likely pissed at Ukraine for backstabbing him in that 2nd impeachment that he will divide Ukraine east|west on the Dnieper River just to end the war & phuque over little Z boy.


#NotMyFlag
#NotMyWar
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Exactly
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 12:55:07 PM EDT
[#31]
About the same time Israel lights up Iran like a cheap cigar
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 1:04:25 PM EDT
[#32]
The French have nuclear weapons.

Why does the US have strategic stealth bombers? The term pre-emptive strike seems to be beyond the vocabulary of most posters in the GD forum.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 1:10:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Its more likely "our side" sets one off to keep the war going....
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 1:23:14 PM EDT
[#34]
I think they'd use a bunch of 2 kiloton artillery nukes if they were faced with a division sized force or larger being overrun.
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